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hi,
i want to build an bluetooth accesspoint at home, where i can connect with my mda-II to explorer the internet (wlan needs to much battery).
What kind of bluetooth usb device i need in my pc?
Can these work?
What kind of settings is needed on the mda?
(sry. i´m a bluetooth-newbie)
regards
AleX
The problem is that the XDA/MDA bluetooth stack doesn't support PAN (personal area networking). When the stack is sorted out then you only need a cheap class 2 bluetooth USB dongle and drivers to make this work.
Steve
I Have a Sandisk SD WiFi card, but as this kills the battery at home i use my laptop with built in WiFi and Bluetooth, I put my Laptop in the room where i am sitting, and then activesync over bluetooth, and surf the net thatway, the range is not bad, much better than the BT headset (jabraBT200) And of corse this way there is nothing sticking out the top ready to be snaped off, and the battery lasts much longer,
I will of keep the SD WiFi Card as there are also many times when i need it, But for home use as soon as they sort the PAN profile i will get a BT acess point
John
hi,
thanks for your answers!!!
@sweeney
Are you know if it possible to update the mda-II with the needed PAN support? If it is a microsoft-update or comes it from HTC or from anyone else?
@applecom
looks that we have the same configuration, i´m also use the sandisk wlan card but it takes to much battery power! But your idea with the activesync i like very well ... how you have to setup activesync to use bluetooth?
Are you useing the cheap "class 2 bluetooth USB dongle" sweeney spoke about or anything else?
regards
AleX
alex-zero said:
hi,
@sweeney
Are you know if it possible to update the mda-II with the needed PAN support? If it is a microsoft-update or comes it from HTC or from anyone else?
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No official support yet, but there is some sign of promise on this board that the WIDCOMM stack can be tweaked to work on the MDA/XDA and is known provide PAN, serial etc.
Hi all!
I found a strange problem reguarding bluetooth software conflicts beetween Qtek2020's Microsoft Bluetooth Stack and the Widcomm 1.4.1 (BluetoothGPS.cab) Stack.
It means.
Without the Widcomm Stack installed I am able to syncronize via Bluetooth with ActiveSync (com6).
And I moreover can surf the web trough my Qtek GPRS connection via Bluetooth. And that's perfect.
But.
With the Widcomm Stack installed I am still able to syncronize via Bluetooth with ActiveSync (on com6) but I loose the bluetooth-modem capacity!
I own a Trust180 Bluetooth/USB adapter.
I need the Widcomm Stack only to use my Fortuna Clip-On GPS and I will not need it anymore if I could find the way to use it with Qtek-Microsoft Bluetooth Stack, but I have not found the way to do it yet.
So I think I could only surf the registry to find the answer to let both stacks work together, is it possible?
Did anybody have the same problem?
Did anybody find the answer?
Thanks in advance!
Giuseppe
Hi Giuseppe,
I have the same Fortuna Clip-on GPS receiver and I'm able to use it with the MS BT stack. It bonds and offers the option to set up a serial port. If you accept this, it allocates Com 5 to the GPS. I use Tomtom navigation software and in the software set it up as a NEMA 38400 baud connection using Com 5 - all works fine.
Paul
XDA 2i Widcomm and Fortuna
I'm having the same problem with a fortuna clip on bluetooth gps and an XDA2i--for some reason that build of the widcomm stack (3900) doesn't work, yet earlier versions, such as that shipped with the XDA2s, appear to work fine--does anyone know where to find a version of the widcomm bluetooth stack from broadcom newer than 3900?
paulfanner said:
Hi Giuseppe,
I have the same Fortuna Clip-on GPS receiver and I'm able to use it with the MS BT stack. It bonds and offers the option to set up a serial port. If you accept this, it allocates Com 5 to the GPS. I use Tomtom navigation software and in the software set it up as a NEMA 38400 baud connection using Com 5 - all works fine.
Paul
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Hi Paul,
thanks for your reply, I know my Clip-On should work together with every software for on road navigation...but...I unfortunately need OziExplorer for my off-road navigation and...OziExplorer need a com7 port.
That's all :wink:
I think I'll try Franson's tools: GPSGate & something else as I read here http://www.franson.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17&SearchTerms=qtek,2020
I wouldn't like to hardreset my device again...I lost the number of my hardresets.
Thank you anywhere
Giuseppe
Hi giuseppe,I hate broadcom stack too, after many hresets, i thinks there is no way to solve this and other bugs, like the serial modem bluetooth connection.
The only winning move is to sell our 2020i and buy magician
Bye
Luca
Hi Luca, don't surrender, it can work!
I simply followed this http://franson.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17&SearchTerms=qtek,2020 .
Now I am able to use my Fortuna GPS and my BT Motorola HS805 at the same time. And morover I am still using my Qtek's BT modem ability.
I payed 30 euros for Franson GPS Gate, but it solved my problems.
I am now trying to let ActiveSync work via Bluetooth because it's the only ability I lost. :?
Bye, thank You for your post,
Don't surrender!
Giuseppe
Please , please can anyone tell me if it is possible to remove the crap $icrosoft Bluetooth drivers and on my SPV M500 and install better ones. As they are so crap and have taken out alot of function.
Please tell me there is a way
Thanks
Brian
What do you want??? I'm using that same MS stack on my S110 and I cannot say I miss anything compared to Widcomm on my old iPAQ, everything I need (ActiveSync, OBEX, SerialPort) can be done via BT. What are you missing???
Besindes you can install another stack like the Toshiba one or one from Bluesoleil and disable the MS one (cannot be uninstalled because it is in ROM).
Magican with 64MB RAM cant run Widcom but maybe the 128MB ones like the S110 can, but I'm not brave enough to test it. Despite I've no idea where to get the Widcom stack for PPC.
one of the most important things is my car kit requires me to activate the serial port on port 5, but My IPAQ in the bluetooth i click on the carkit port and select connect, and works fine, but i do not have that fuction with my Orange M500, until i can connect the port it will not work so thats why i need other bluetooth software that has this fuction. it seems like $icrosoft is the onlt bluetooth stact that does not have this fuction, and they have cut it down
Hope you understand that
Well I use my Holux 236 GPS on Port5 using SPP (SerialPortProfile) so the functionality is in the MS stack for sure.
Sorry and by the way, where can i get the Toshiba one or one from Bluesoleil bluetooth stack drivers and how do i disable the $icrosoft ones
Thanks again
Brian
Yes, but it does not have the manual connect fuction like other bluetooth statcks do, and i can not connect to the carkit without it. my other device have that fuction and works well, just not my M500
Brian
You can get the bluesoleil one here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18537&highlight=bluesoleil
The Toshiba one can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15604&highlight=toshiba
Important: Both stacks are not perfect. The bluesoleil is limited because the Magician is not a device it is registered on and because of that it has a 5MB data trasfer limit before you need to start it again (like a trial). The Toshiba one is really good but unstable at times.
You best bet is prolly the Bluesoleil one and the "trial" limitation can be removed, see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=24801&highlight=bluesoleil
Instructions are avail in those two threads too. Could you let me know how it goes, I'm thinking of using another stack too.
Using a GPS mouse should work without problems. I guess you're doing something wrong. The MS stack establishes the serial port connection automatically once an application tries to use that port. I don't know how it works, but the stack can separate between a connection through the serial profile using Active Sync and a connection using a navigation software to the GPS mouse. For me, it works with no problem. I can use ActiveSync and afterwards go into my car, switch on TomTom and it connects to my bluetooth GPS mouse automatically.
I guess it also has to do how the corresponding navigation software deals with the BT stack. Therefore you should try another software and see if it works better.
It's basically true, that you can do almost everything with the crippled MS stack aswell. Even browsing the net through ActiveSync, even though it has no PAN profile. What it really lacks is the A2DP profile. I think WM5 also features HID, for keyboards, mouses and stuff.
i do not have any problem with any other bluetooth device, it just my CK3500 karkit requires you to do a manual connect, and the MS stack does not have that function.
And thanks to Private-Cowboy, will try this and post update
Thanks again
brian colston said:
i do not have any problem with any other bluetooth device, it just my CK3500 karkit requires you to do a manual connect, and the MS stack does not have that function.
And thanks to Private-Cowboy, will try this and post update
Thanks again
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Then really it's the car kit that's at fault. :?
TheBrit, looks like you was correct, problem with the carkit
Thanks
Brian
Dandie said:
Using a GPS mouse should work without problems. I guess you're doing something wrong...
...It's basically true, that you can do almost everything with the crippled MS stack aswell. Even browsing the net through ActiveSync, even though it has no PAN profile. What it really lacks is the A2DP profile. I think WM5 also features HID, for keyboards, mouses and stuff.
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I'm afraid I not fully agree with you...
In my case (I have a MDA Compact) for my bluetooth GPS mouse to work properly within TomTom 5, I need to bond the GPS mouse with COM5. And that means that I cannot connect simultaniously to an external GSM (for TomTom Traffic via GPRS).
Why an external phone on my MDA Compact? On the MDA I have my work provider and on an external phone I have my private provider with GPRS (a bit difficult I know).
As said to two functions together doesn't work with the MS stack because of the bonding of the GPS mouse on COM5.
Except...
Except when I install an old version of Bluetooth Tools!!! With Bluetooth tools I can bond my GPS mouse to a virtual COM port, which TomTom 5 recognizes! And now I can also use my external GPRS phone!
OK, I can have 2 connection through my MS stack. as i do it
i bound com 5 to my portable Slim GPS until and run tomtom 5.10 in my car, and that works fine, then on my car kit i click connect to paired device and it then connect fine,(so i have a com 5 connection to my GPS and a connection to my hands free car kit). all through my Orange SPV 500 at once
This work great,
But i wanted to use the car kit for handfree and GPS, but as my gps does not work on my car kit i am stuck with my portable Slim GPS unit for now
Brian
brian colston said:
OK, I can have 2 connection through my MS stack. as i do it
i bound com 5 to my portable Slim GPS until and run tomtom 5.10 in my car, and that works fine, then on my car kit i click connect to paired device and it then connect fine,(so i have a com 5 connection to my GPS and a connection to my hands free car kit). all through my Orange SPV 500 at once
This work great,
But i wanted to use the car kit for handfree and GPS, but as my gps does not work on my car kit i am stuck with my portable Slim GPS unit for now
Brian
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Yes, it works with a handsfree carkit. But it doesn't with an external phone, maybe because the phone is a 2-way connection? Try it and you'll see it doesn't!
Ok sorry about that
Brian
Hey guys,
I got it to work once. But I have no idea how to make my iMate Jam connect to my PC's bluetooth connection using the Wireless Modem application on my Jam. Eveytime I fiddle around with that software it ends up screwing with my radio signal and I lose the signal. Then I have to reboot the phone to make it work again. Does anyone have any instruction on how to work this program? This seems to be so much harder than my P900 which I just used the Dial-up Bluetooth Modem and had it dial *99#. By the way I'm using the standard Windows XP Bluetooth stack with my USB Bluetooth adapter. Please help.
i've the same problem... anyone as a solution?
bt modem tip
On my sx66, i noticed i was having a problem with my modem connection, I noticed it wouldnt let me connect if I had already initiated a gprs session, ie. syncronizing with my excahnge server or pop mail accounts or web browsing on the pda. If i soft booted then connected the dial up connection it worked fine. In some cases i have heard some peoples PC would drop the DUN setting after every sesssion with the PC's BT settings.
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Hey guys,
I got it to work once. But I have no idea how to make my iMate Jam connect to my PC's bluetooth connection using the Wireless Modem application on my Jam. Eveytime I fiddle around with that software it ends up screwing with my radio signal and I lose the signal. Then I have to reboot the phone to make it work again. Does anyone have any instruction on how to work this program? This seems to be so much harder than my P900 which I just used the Dial-up Bluetooth Modem and had it dial *99#. By the way I'm using the standard Windows XP Bluetooth stack with my USB Bluetooth adapter. Please help.
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This is why it's worth following my blog - I've published a tutorial of this over a month ago. Please read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=510&more=1
Forget the wireless modem application, it's not necessary for this for me.
Go to your PC's bluetooth and open it up. Is et Widcomm? Pair the phone with the PC.
ok, on the PC click on the paired phone and click search for available services. SSA should come up.
Set up a dial up connection with phone no *99# any username, password for your provider and it should connect. PLEASE' Note, you must be DISCONNECTED from GPRS on the phone first to make a connection from your PC.
You may also have to put in an APN on the bluetooth modem in Windows XP, Control Panel, phones and Modem options, as supplied by your provider. First let us know if you get as for as finding SSA?
Surgy, ignore last post, I just saw yin said you are using MS Bluetooth stack.
admisi said:
Surgy, ignore last post, I just saw yin said you are using MS Bluetooth stack.
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You can also use the DUN from the MS BT stack too.
Your tutorial only covers the newer devices with WM5. I'm using an older i-Mate Jam/Magician and when I do a discovery with my Bluetooth adapter on my PC I only see OBEX File Transfer, Serial Port, and Voice Gateway. I still can't figure out a way to do it wirelessly. I have figured out how to do it via USB cable and the Wireless Modem program on the Pocket PC but it's only a 28.8 connection whereas usually I connect at 56K with my Sony Ericsson P900. Strange stuff. Well I'll be upgrading to a Jamin shortly so I hope this will resolve my problem.
rovert said:
Your tutorial only covers the newer devices with WM5. I'm using an older i-Mate Jam/Magician and when I do a discovery with my Bluetooth adapter on my PC I only see OBEX File Transfer, Serial Port, and Voice Gateway. I still can't figure out a way to do it wirelessly. I have figured out how to do it via USB cable and the Wireless Modem program on the Pocket PC but it's only a 28.8 connection whereas usually I connect at 56K with my Sony Ericsson P900. Strange stuff. Well I'll be upgrading to a Jamin shortly so I hope this will resolve my problem.
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OIC. Strange. Some (for example, Verizon) PPC PE devices are crippled in that they can't be used as BT modems.
If you can't see the DUN or SSA or Dial Up. it sounds like your Bluetooth has been modified on the imate jam/mini.
Did you install either the Blue Soleil Stack or the new BLUETOOTH STOCK from this forum?.. If so, then this is the problem. Standard default Bluetooth Stack should show it in discovery.
What make is your bluetooth dongle?
admisi said:
If you can't see the DUN or SSA or Dial Up. it sounds like your Bluetooth has been modified on the imate jam/mini.
Did you install either the Blue Soleil Stack or the new BLUETOOTH STOCK from this forum?.. If so, then this is the problem. Standard default Bluetooth Stack should show it in discovery.
What make is your bluetooth dongle?
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I did upgrade it to the new bluetooth stack. I guess it did more harm than good. Is there anyway to undo it or must I hard reset and install everything all over again? I have a Logitech Dinovo Bluetooth Keyboard/Mouse combo.
Hi,
I am trying to connect my Tomtom GO 500 to the universal through bluetooth (it should be able to get the traffic situation, the weather and it should act as a handsfree), but the tomtom cannot see the universal at all (but it can see my neighbour's phone!), even if it is in discoverable mode.
I read on a blog that the problem is the universal does not identify itself as a phone but as a pc, is there a way to change this?
Any other solution?
Any help will be greatly apreciated!!!
I've also tried this and couldn't get it to work. I think it might be something to do with DUN not being available in current WM builds anymore. Any ideas would be much appreciated.
Cheers
I think I will give a try to the widcom bluetooth stack, it is possible this will solve... MS BT stack has never been very good
What about this one? http://www.jetwaremobile.com/
I got this info from this forum...
I don't think this will help... the problem I am having is not the phone not being able to discover tomtom as an handsfree - with tomtom things are quite different, it is the phone that must be discoverable!
Anyway, I will give it a try... do you know if they have a trial version?