Cingular 8525 Chipset Components - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Does anyone know what silicon is used with the 8525 (Hermes)? I know the main processor is a 400MHz Samsung, what device name? Whose DSP is used? Whose transciever is used? Whose memory, etc.? Curious.
Craig

cshields1 said:
Does anyone know what silicon is used with the 8525 (Hermes)? I know the main processor is a 400MHz Samsung, what device name? Whose DSP is used? Whose transciever is used? Whose memory, etc.? Curious.
Craig
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Most if not all the info you need is on the wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HardwareOverview
and tons of other stuff:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
Mike

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HERM100 vs HERM200

What is the difference between these two variants?
I get the impression that the HERM100's are made into the carrier devices like Orange M3100's, VarioII's, Dopod 838's etc...
And the HERM200's are made into TyTN's
Does anyone know for sure what the score is with the two types is though?
Hi,
As long as I've read on the forum, the main differences between HERM100 and HERM200 are the processor clock speed 300Mhz on HERM100 and 400Mhz on HERM200 and the keyboard layout. It seems that HERM100 was used on some early development divices. You can find a lot more information here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Versions
Regards.
No, the 300Mhz was an early development version. Both HERM100 and HERM200 have a 400Mhz processor.
We still don't really know the differences.
My guess is just like the Wizards the 100 and 200 will dictate the base form factor before operator customisations go on (silk screen, plastics etc.).
For example the Vodafone branded Hermes is an HERM200 and I would suspect the Dopad 838 for example would be a HERM100 as it uses the other main button layout.
Like the Wizard I doubt there are any noteworthy differences in the hardware and in due time I would suspect the ROM's will be interchangeable.
Really enjoying the few Vodafone branded Hermes I have to test on but I do find I am missing one or 2 features from the Wizards that I came to love. The wheel is a nice but not quite as nice as say the 4 way jog on SE P910 I had many moons ago.
djwillis said:
My guess is just like the Wizards the 100 and 200 will dictate the base form factor before operator customisations go on (silk screen, plastics etc.).
For example the Vodafone branded Hermes is an HERM200 and I would suspect the Dopad 838 for example would be a HERM100 as it uses the other main button layout.
Like the Wizard I doubt there are any noteworthy differences in the hardware and in due time I would suspect the ROM's will be interchangeable.
Really enjoying the few Vodafone branded Hermes I have to test on but I do find I am missing one or 2 features from the Wizards that I came to love. The wheel is a nice but not quite as nice as say the 4 way jog on SE P910 I had many moons ago.
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That is essentially what I was trying to say in my original post. I figured as much. Thanks for clearing it up.
Agreed, that a 4 way jog/wheel would have been a nice extra touch.
I like the layout or HERM100 devices in respect to the D-pad and surrounding keys...
djwillis said:
My guess is just like the Wizards the 100 and 200 will dictate the base form factor before operator customisations go on (silk screen, plastics etc.).
For example the Vodafone branded Hermes is an HERM200 and I would suspect the Dopad 838 for example would be a HERM100 as it uses the other main button layout.
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Really a good guess! I believe, your right! I posted it to the Wiki.
My Orange SPV M3100 HERM100 device came shipped with a battery model number HERM160 with 1300mAh capacity.
My HERM200 HTC Tytn branded device came with a HERM161 batterywith 1350mAh capacity.......
Make sure you get the HERM200 if you want those crucial extra 50mAh! :lol:
After some research I found they are the same with little finishing differences.
This great review will explain much better.
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=243882
battery
on the official i-mate website the specs read 1300 mah battery. is that a typo ?
which vendor makes the better version of the Hermes. i live in the US and i would not want to get an american version of this phone since american vendors usually butcher the crisp european phones that come in (god knows why)
what do we know about HERM300 and in the TyTN version (herm200) it comes with 2 different ext-roms 106 and 105 , anyones take on that ?
Re: battery
emilem said:
on the official i-mate website the specs read 1300 mah battery. is that a typo ?
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imate JasJam is HERM100 device, so it comes with HERM160 battery which is 1300 mAh.
emilem said:
which vendor makes the better version of the Hermes. i live in the US and i would not want to get an american version of this phone since american vendors usually butcher the crisp european phones that come in (god knows why)
what do we know about HERM300 and in the TyTN version (herm200) it comes with 2 different ext-roms 106 and 105 , anyones take on that ?
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You can read the differences between HERM100/200/300 in the wiki and have an overview of all models:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Versions
Do not worry about the extrom, you can change it to your liking without having to reflash.
which one in your opinion is better ? (100/200/300)
does the 300 come with 1350mah ?
and another stupid question (its my first pocketpc so pardon me) whats "rom" exactly and what do you mean by it being interchangeable ?
emilem said:
which one in your opinion is better ? (100/200/300)
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I don't really care... differences are minor and hardware it's the same... only buttons and color changes, and 50mAh difference in battery is not too much noticeable.
emilem said:
does the 300 come with 1350mah ?
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I don't know, sorry.
emilem said:
and another stupid question (its my first pocketpc so pardon me) whats "rom" exactly and what do you mean by it being interchangeable ?
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Read the wiki here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
Specially the "Hermes for beginners" section which will help you getting started:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_For_Beginners
Hello,
just wanted to say that I have a XDA Trion (Herm100) which came with a HERM161 battery (1350 mAh).
Regards,
Uli
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emilem said:
does the 300 come with 1350mah ?
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I don't know, sorry.
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my HERM300 has 1300 mAh battery (battery model HERM160).
batt
I got a Dopod 838Pro Hermes100, with Herm161 1350mAH battery
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sutheep said:
I got a Dopod 838Pro Hermes100, with Herm161 1350mAH battery
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As there seem to be HERM100 devices shipped HERM161 batteries I updated the WIKI accordingly
I have a UK T-Mobile HERM300, 1350mAh HERM161 battery.
of course there are differences
herm100 has toppoly front panel logic boards
herm200 has hitachi boards.
herm100 and herm200 has different LCD panel models.
herm200 has LCD 60H0056-00M while herm100 has 60H00037-01M
there are many other diff. between those two cousins.
gery
Syphon Filter said:
That is essentially what I was trying to say in my original post. I figured as much. Thanks for clearing it up.
Agreed, that a 4 way jog/wheel would have been a nice extra touch.
I like the layout or HERM100 devices in respect to the D-pad and surrounding keys...
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5-way actually, push up and down, scroll up and down and push in.
pof said:
imate JasJam is HERM100 device, so it comes with HERM160 battery which is 1300 mAh.
You can read the differences between HERM100/200/300 in the wiki and have an overview of all models:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Versions
Do not worry about the extrom, you can change it to your liking without having to reflash.
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I have a Softbank X01HT which is a HERM200, but it comes with a metallic surface 1300mAh batter marked HTBAA1

x7500 vs x7501...which one??

HI.
I was gonna get the x7501,now i am confused.
Someone on this site said swears that although similar, the x7500 actually has MORE features than the almost identical x7501. (I think they own one or both or something. Not Sure)
*I am aware of the WM5 vs WM6 thing,but what exactly are the differences?
*Your thoughts?
egg95 said:
HI.
I was gonna get the x7501,now i am confused.
Someone on this site said swears that although similar, the x7500 actually has MORE features than the almost identical x7501. (I think they own one or both or something. Not Sure)
*I am aware of the WM5 vs WM6 thing,but what exactly are the differences?
*Your thoughts?
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I think I probably speak for most people when we say read the forums and your questions will be answered Thanks

overclocking the processor?

has anybody tried to overclock the 400 Mhz Samsung processor on the HTC Tytn? my old qtek 9100 used omapclock for this purpose.any reliable software?
thank you
alibaba2 said:
has anybody tried to overclock the 400 Mhz Samsung processor on the HTC Tytn? my old qtek 9100 used omapclock for this purpose.any reliable software?
thank you
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It's been discussed very extensively here (be sure to search before posting). There are no known ways or apps that can accomplish overclocking the Tytn/Hermes.
Supposely the new Pocket Hack Master versions allow overclocking of the samsung CPU.
Check this thread out... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276317&highlight=overclockOOP
hmmm... risk a hard reset for maybe 40mghz? Not worth it... there would be no difference.
export800 said:
Supposely the new Pocket Hack Master versions allow overclocking of the samsung CPU.
Check this thread out... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276317&highlight=overclockOOP
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Read the thread first please. It will not overclock your TyTn.
Look at this page for the explanation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276317&page=4&highlight=overclockOOP

overclocking??

hey guys i need help with overclocking my mda as i have absolutely no idea as how to do it, or what apps if any needed to do it any advice would be helpful, also if anyone has a broken mda i would like to buy as im only after the housing thanks.
You need this.....
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hey guys i need help with overclocking my mda as i have absolutely no idea as how to do it, or what apps if any needed to do it any advice would be helpful, also if anyone has a broken mda i would like to buy as im only after the housing thanks.
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It's called BatteryStatuts. Search for that and it should answer all your questions...
When you find and install the program navigate over to the OMAP tab and set your overclock speed. However, be careful not to set it over 299 because instability on your phone is extremely likely to occur. To be safe set it to 286 or 273. I hope this helps......
ty
thanks very much works a treat!
No Prob!
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thanks very much works a treat!
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Glad I can help!!!!
...OR you could just download OMAPClock Plus, and not have any extra crap on your phone (unless you like BatteryStatus).
While I'm admittedly not a big fan of uni-taskers, in some cases (like this one) I make exceptions. This should not be misconstrued as admonishment for you to do the same, though.

What radiochip I9000 has?

In Humbrid specs isn't radiomodule. Which chipset realize GSM/WCDMA communications?
check the wiki, it is posted there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page#Samsung_Smartphones
There isn't hardware specifications
This may be of interest:
http://www.phonewreck.com/2010/08/19/samsung-galaxy-s-teardown/
The baseband processor is an Infineon YYN1N7438A8, and the radio side has several Triquint chips and an Infineon transceiver.
There seems to be a lot more RAM on there than I was expecting, if that's correct (2GB + 1GB?).
Thanks! It's directly i'm need
HM... I'm expecting 2 memmodules (1 for GPU, 1 for CPU), but 1 and 2 GB....
Mithent said:
This may be of interest:
http://www.phonewreck.com/2010/08/19/samsung-galaxy-s-teardown/
The baseband processor is an Infineon YYN1N7438A8, and the radio side has several Triquint chips and an Infineon transceiver.
There seems to be a lot more RAM on there than I was expecting, if that's correct (2GB + 1GB?).
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They list this as BT 2.1, which seems wrong, should be BT 3.0 Is this a mistake? Am I mistaken?
alovell83 said:
They list this as BT 2.1, which seems wrong, should be BT 3.0 Is this a mistake? Am I mistaken?
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It should be Bluetooth 3.0, yes. Guess that must be a mistake?
Mithent said:
It should be Bluetooth 3.0, yes. Guess that must be a mistake?
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No, it's perfectly correct. BT3.0 is BT2+WiFi+appropriate drivers.
Sent from my personal Dis-organizer GT-I9000
There are listed 2 modules of SDRAM. 1GB and 2GB. We have 512MB. What's wrong?
Lots of things clearly..
el_tuba said:
In Humbrid specs isn't radiomodule. Which chipset realize GSM/WCDMA communications?
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Hi i've just come across the chipset while browsing the infinion website.
The galaxy S is using the XMM 6160 Platform.
http://www.infineon.com/cms/en/product/channel.html?channel=db3a304319c6f18c011a39327f69054d
and they also have a PDF that mentions it's use in the galaxy s here http://www.infineon.com/dgdl/2010-07-28+Q3+FY10+Investor+Presentation.pdf?folderId=db3a304326623792012678cdc8f707a1&fileId=db3a304329a0f6ee012a1488a88a32f1

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