Was reading through another forum today and someone was asking about the O2 Atom and I-Mate JAMin. I knew about the atom but hadn't heard anything about the JAMin :shock:
Thought I'd do a search on the trusty xda-developers forum and found it actually comes under this group why??? isn't it just the replacement of the Jam as the Atom is to the mini?? and therefore part of the magician threads?
Anyway looks like some resaerch for me :wink:
marto
marto_martin said:
Was reading through another forum today and someone was asking about the O2 Atom and I-Mate JAMin. I knew about the atom but hadn't heard anything about the JAMin :shock:
Thought I'd do a search on the trusty xda-developers forum and found it actually comes under this group why??? isn't it just the replacement of the Jam as the Atom is to the mini?? and therefore part of the magician threads?
Anyway looks like some resaerch for me :wink:
marto
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I don't know what are you going to research, but JAMin is a different device with different hardware and different operating system from JAM.
HTC JAMin name is Prophet, this is why it is found here.
And the Atom is not the replacement of the mini. At least, what I mean is that it is a totally different device. the atom is made by quanta, the mini by htc.
I'm getting really confused by the barrage of new models dished out by HTC recently. what is the difference between HTC Hermes and HTC TyTN?
thank you in advance and appologies if this is not the correct forum for the question.
regards,
As far as I know, there aren't differences. The Hermes name was when this product has been launched on the market :lol:
Ciao, Cesare
Hermes is the generic code name used by HTC for all the devices.
TyTN is the comercial name used by HTC itself to sell the Hermes devices.
You can find it under many other names:
O2 XDA trion / T-Mobile MDA Vario II / Vodafone 1650 VPA Compact III / Orange SPV M3100 / Dopod CHT 9000 / Dopod 838 Pro / hTc Z / Qtek 9600 / iMate JasJam / Cingular 8525
See this page for more information:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Versions
I get confused (I know its easy) but is it correct to say that any ‘Charmer’ discussions etc should be discussed in the same form as the Magician? I understand these devices named compact and compact II are similar in a lot of ways but not the same in others. With this in mind can it be said that utilities, programs, fixes, tweaks etc would run on both devices providing they are both executing WM5? Thanks in advance
Since there are limited users for Charmers, the admin decided not to have a seperate section for Charmers. Read this
They are very similiar (almost identical) in terms of the physical appearance, BUT they are very well different internally. One of the major differences is that, Magician runs W2003 while Charmer runs WM5. Hence, not all of the fixes and tweaks are interchangable. However, most of the utilities / software (excluding SIM/CID unlocking, ROM flashing) are interchangable since both are running Windows OS (eg. those software that runs on both W2003 and WM5).
In terms of the hardware, the Charmer is more like a HTC Wizard, in many cases. Example, the aWizard used for flashing ROM can be used for Charmer. The lokiwiz used by Wizard to perform SIM unlock can be used for Charmer as well. As for for fixes and tweaks, those from other WM5 units (Wizard, Prophet, Universal, etc) are mostly (not all) applicable to Charmer.
However, due to the similarity in appearance, Charmer stuff are very well inside the Magician forum. So, Magician user, beware
Thanks Hanmin as always much appreciated. So to recap I have some software from my BA that ran on 2003SE this may work? and help and hints etc can be found in both the magician and Wizard forums. Is this correct? As a newly aquired Charmer user I am not sure if this was the right device to buy as it is outside or radically different to the other devices on the forum.
Also since the site changed has the PM function been removed?
Thanks JD76
"I have some software from my BA that ran on 2003SE this may work?" - Yes
"help and hints etc can be found in both the magician and Wizard forums" - Yes, but you may also want to look at the Wiki section for WM5. Goodies are there.
"As a newly aquired Charmer user I am not sure if this was the right device to buy" - After I had it for almost a year, and loafing around this forum, I find that it is not the 'right' device to buy, as I kinda feel isoated with all the Wizard talks here (not the Tytn talk). However, a year ago, the Charmer and Wizard had almost a £100 difference. So, Wizard is not a 'choice' for me, I'm stingy. BUT, having said that, the phone is good enough for me, as I don't really like the keyboard idea as I'm an ex-Palm user.
As for the PM, you can click on the member's name and there is an option on the right for you to send PM.
Thanks Hanmin I agree with you. I'll have a scoot around and see what I can see see. Like your self I am not interested on the Keyboard but Wi-fi would have been handy. Thanks Jd76
Hello...
first- excuse me for my bad english, i am from czech republic
i would like to registrate this category in HTC section. The name of this category is "HTC CHARMER/Qtek 110/MDA Compact II"
This all three names are for one PDA/MDA.
Please, answe me on mail s[email protected] or ICQ 114625013
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_PhoneModels
Looks like the Qtec 110 is a Magician
Why dont you just say that you dont want a Charmer sub forum. I have seen a couple of sarcastic comments on this already about people posting Charmer questions. They have to post here, they have no-where else to post questions.
A Charmer sub forum would be helpful, the device is different from the Magician, even if it looks the same.
I like my Charmer, it works well. I have problems with it sometimes and I would like to post, I have not though mainly due to 'processor snobbery' that sometimes creeps into this forum. Thats sad, because XDA Developers is a brilliant site and is sometimes let down by sarcasm.
Regards Jeff
A2DP Bluetooth
I also have an MDA Compact II (charmer) and find it difficult to find specific advice for this model on the forum. I used to have an imate jam (magician) and was able to install a simple bluetooth stack patch that worked perfectly and allowed me to use my logitech BT headphones.
I cannot find any similar patch for the charmer on this site to allow me to upgrade the useless WM5 BT stack and allow A2DP support. Anyone else found a patch that works for this device?
Well, I can understand what others are thinking consider Charmer seems to have an extremly small user group as compared with others. The good thing, is however, Charmer is very like the Wizard `internally` and hence most of the Charmer problems can be solved using Wizard's stuff. As far as the wiki goes, it seems that Charmer is only sold on UK and German, hence the number of limited users.
And, wopffej, for a member with only 1 post, you are certainly making a huge sweeping statemnt
For others, read here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=254489&highlight=
Yep your right. A bit overblown! Anyway 2 posts now.
Still would be nice to have a Charmer sub forum.
Regards Jeff
I totally agree with all the comments here regarding a new sub forum. Admittedly some of the problems can be resolved using the replies from the magician but in theory there is a large charmer community out there. Folks with charmers want to speak to like minded people also with charmers. I have had a Wallaby, BA and now a Charmer and think it deserves its own forum. Thats me had my tuppence worth..thanks JD76..
Help MDA Compact 2 bricked!!!
Hiya. I have a MDA Compact 2.
I had the brilliant idea of try to debrand the device.After an unsuccesfull flashing with a debrand rom anounced on this site.The pda kept freezing.Not happy I've tried to reflash it with my Molski Room for Qtek 9100 (wizard).The process ran out smooth but when it finished the pda dont stard up, does not even light up.The only thing that happens is that the screen keep flickering as trying to do something.
Some1 out there help me
Luiz said:
Hiya. I have a MDA Compact 2.
I had the brilliant idea of try to debrand the device.After an unsuccesfull flashing with a debrand rom anounced on this site.The pda kept freezing.Not happy I've tried to reflash it with my Molski Room for Qtek 9100 (wizard).The process ran out smooth but when it finished the pda dont stard up, does not even light up.The only thing that happens is that the screen keep flickering as trying to do something.
Some1 out there help me
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Its totally bricked now, by installing a Wizard Rom youve trashed the bootloaders. you could of fixed it by using the tmobile mdac2 rom but it needs to go back to the manufacturer now. and dont try and blame me, you didnt follow the instructions i laid out for my debranded rom, it didnt work cos you installed it on aku1 bootloaders when i clearly put, it needs aku2 bootloaders and how to check if you had them already.
what is new with separate thread? this is discrimination :-D
Yeah lets get back to the original request, remove these spurious posts!!. How about a separate sub forum for us charmer owners??? surely someone must have the clout out there to make a decision. any backers....
who can create new category for mda charmer.... ? we must say to anybody, who has privilege for creating this category (mda compact II - charmer)
I take it none of the adminstrators are listening to us Charmer (aka Compact II) owners. Can anyone??? clarify if a sub category is possible????????????
Thanks....
i speak english very little... who is able to create this new subforum?
Check the main page, Charmer Forums now open!!
Good one Dave much appreciated. There is a lot of Charmer users out there. So after requesting and the administrators being so kind to create lets get posting!!!!!
CHARMER (aka MDA COMPACT 2) forum :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=344
how to determine which one is VPA compact GPS??
not found in a wiki or forum