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O2 XDA NEO OR ATOM ?

Hello fellows !!
I post here because there's someting that seems weird for me.
A know that Qtek S200 is also sold as O2 XDA NEO. But is the O2 Atom also the same device ? If not, would the rom be compatible ? (so as to put the Atom in french or in english)
I just port this because I'm feeling like buying the HTC Prophet but I saw somewhere that the atom has an FM tuner and a 416 Mhz Proc so I would prefer this one I think, (Am I right ?)
Thanks for your help !!!!!

eagleamon said:
Hello fellows !!
I post here because there's someting that seems weird for me.
A know that Qtek S200 is also sold as O2 XDA NEO. But is the O2 Atom also the same device ? If not, would the rom be compatible ? (so as to put the Atom in french or in english)
I just port this because I'm feeling like buying the HTC Prophet but I saw somewhere that the atom has an FM tuner and a 416 Mhz Proc so I would prefer this one I think, (Am I right ?)
Thanks for your help !!!!!
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The O2 Atom is not an HTC Prophet device. It is manufactured by Quanta so is a totally different beast. I've been told that the FM tuner only works with the headset plugged in.
While the processor in the Atom has a "faster" clock speed, it is an Intel chip whereas the Prophet has an OMAP chip. The latter's "lower" clock speed does not mean that everything runs more slowly.
I played with an Atom a few days ago and didn't like it compared with my Magician. I'm gonna go check out the iMate JAMin (Prophet).

Hi, I have a Prophet (S200) and a friend of mine has an Atom. The Atom is indeed faster, but so far I am quite happy with the prophet's speed. On the other hand, Prophet has many buttons that make 1-handed operation easy, and has phonepad for easy texting.
FM radio on atom works only with headset plugged in since the cable acts as antenna. Don't know if you can still send it over BT (no BT headset to try, sorry).

different people differrent eyes and different mind, for me atom is better than mini, of cause have to work a bit, try this link: http://www.mobiletopsoft.com/board/view.php?newsid=276

Thanks for your answers, is there any french rom for the prophet ?

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simple choice based more on looks, has to be XDA Neo, the Atom is pig ugly
Ady 8)

Lol, I've made my mind -> Neo

eagleamon said:
Lol, I've made my mind -> Neo
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Support. I used 818pro. :lol:

Confused - Imate JAMin

Was reading through another forum today and someone was asking about the O2 Atom and I-Mate JAMin. I knew about the atom but hadn't heard anything about the JAMin :shock:
Thought I'd do a search on the trusty xda-developers forum and found it actually comes under the Prophet group :? why??? isn't it just the replacement of the Jam as the Atom is to the mini??
Anyway looks like some research ahead me!
marto

No....the Atom is not even made by HTC.
Strictly speaking, the Charmer replaces the Magician, the Prophet is something else. Various providers seem to have done different things though. T-Mobile brought out the Comact-II which is a Charmer. O2 brough out the Atom, I-Mate brought out the Jamin (Prophet) Orange have brought out the M600 (also a Prophet) etc etc etc.
Each has replaced their variations on the Magician in thier own way.

WOW thats certainly a handfull, thanks TheBrit
Explains why I haven't seen any comparisions as there in two different threads areas. :?
Although I haven't had a chance to fully read up on both it appears the Atom has major phone issues like echo, etc. and the JAMin has had multi ROM updates suggesting there are ongoing issues they are concerned about.... :shock:
Anyone got any -/+ feedback on these puppies?
marto

marto_martin said:
WOW thats certainly a handfull, thanks TheBrit
Explains why I haven't seen any comparisions as there in two different threads areas. :?
Although I haven't had a chance to fully read up on both it appears the Atom has major phone issues like echo, etc. and the JAMin has had multi ROM updates suggesting there are ongoing issues they are concerned about.... :shock:
Anyone got any -/+ feedback on these puppies?
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I checked out the Atom in a store recently and did not like it. The very shiny case was literally covered in fingerprints, and the screen image seemed washed out (contrast too high) and the image did not use up all of the space. In short, I was disappointed.
I'm hoping to check out the JAMin tomorrow (in a store in Sydney), and have heard that the latest ROM really brings the device up to speed at last. Note that the Atom has an Intel processor and the JAMin a TI OMAP processor, so they really are different gadgets.

Hi Peter,
Thanks for that The info I'm finding on the 2 units certainly supports your comments.
I look forward to hearing how your adventures go with the JAMin, I haven't found any stockests in Perth yet (like there's a surprise ).
marto

JAMin the Atom
In short, bought an Atom, great speakers, A2DP, and that is about it. Bluetooth weak, no voice dial through headset, no external aerial (the latter killed it for me as I am often in weak radio areas). Shiny case looks good, but don't pick it up without gloves. Now on third ROM. It is stable however, but camera is crap!
Bought JAMin. Even though JAMin is 195Mhz and Atom is 416MHz, hardly any difference. JAMin has great Bluetooth (no A2DP though Grrr), Voice dials, and soft keys make 1 handed operation possible. Screens about the same, Camera slightly better.
If you can live without FM radio and dual speakers, go JAMin and pocket $200.
Cheers.

Should I buy the Atom?

Hi All,
I appreciate all your help with this. I currently own a Magician and love the size factor of the Atom. Is everyone happy with their Atom and would you recommend getting one. I know the new ROM upgrade makes a huge difference in performance speed and such. Also, I read somewhere that the Atom does not have a button lock so you can only have the power on button work(have it in your pocket and not accidentally dial out, that sort of thing) Is this so, and if so has the new Rom upgrades added this feature or is there a way around it.
Thanks so much in advance.
Todd
I also forgot to ask: I have just downloaded the new Windows Vista and there is no longer activesync but a new program. Has anyone had any experience with Vista and will their Atom still sync?

Update the Vista using windows update and you will get the mobile sync function. Does not use activesync anymore. Read this info somewhere here :roll:

You might want to reconsider the Atom. Consider a Prophet or Wizard
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40441
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38148

hanmin said:
You might want to reconsider the Atom. Consider a Prophet or Wizard
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Hmm...Why?!Are you used all this devices?I sure that you does not... :wink: Atom better,faster and more usefull (but also more expensive) than both Prophet and wizard.
If you like atom go and get one (or HP 6828 if you like it more),one device that may be better (if you realy need keyboard) and can also be considered its new 9600 (Hermes) - also great device,by far better than 9100 (wizard)

Well the Atom Exec release date is 4th July and it will be retailing for a price of $1130 and that include Bluetooth headset and IR keyboard. so your problem might well be solved, if you dont mind a matte grey case and dont mind paying an extra $280 over the HP then the Exec could be your bet.

Yukon_28 said:
hanmin said:
You might want to reconsider the Atom. Consider a Prophet or Wizard
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Hmm...Why?!Are you used all this devices?I sure that you does not... :wink: Atom better,faster and more usefull (but also more expensive) than both Prophet and wizard.
If you like atom go and get one (or HP 6828 if you like it more),one device that may be better (if you realy need keyboard) and can also be considered its new 9600 (Hermes) - also great device,by far better than 9100 (wizard)
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I have used the K-Jam and the JAmin (Prophet and wizard) and currently having the Atom, can not compare, it is a lot better, faster, and more stable and has got more features. I rarly soft reset it.
I will hold on to it for a while

Atom
Thanks all for your advice,
I did buy the Atom and love it. Far superior to my old Magaician. Its love again!
Todd

Like Todd, I'm looking to upgrade my magician, I was looking at the Hermes, but I don't really want a real keyboard, but the Hermes looked to have all the right functions. Having look around, and getting confused by other brand names this is what I have concluded.
The prophet is the same as the wizard but without a keyboard, so hopefully the Atom is the same as the Hermes but also without a keyboard. I can't find any reviews to confirm my hunch so I hope someone can answer my question or tell me where I can look.
All I want is WM5, built in wifi, and fast (400 Mhz +) processor.
Does Atom have a jog dial like the Hermes?
What type of memory card.
Thanks in advance

fingers88,
the atom is its own brand (not htc) I have had it for over a month now and it rocks. kicks butt on the magician. it
is mini sd and no jog but it is not missed, buy it, you will be glad you did.
Todd

Iam an atom user... have been for 1 month...
and I have fallen in love with it...
it's my mobile buddy... a welcome upgrade from my xda2 since I divorced the love relationship, because it was too damn huge!
I recently dropped it from 5 ft to a stone tiled hotel bathroom and it survived 100%... just like my xda2 has done...
also a great thing about the atom is it hasa notch/hook on the top left corner for a lanyard... it is an ideal size for a lanyard too.
i've some major scratchesonthe plastic... but idont care about them... the screen is finewith a protector.
G

Can you need separate thread for MDA CHARMER II?

Hello...
first- excuse me for my bad english, i am from czech republic
i would like to registrate this category in HTC section. The name of this category is "HTC CHARMER/Qtek 110/MDA Compact II"
This all three names are for one PDA/MDA.
Please, answe me on mail s[email protected] or ICQ 114625013

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_PhoneModels
Looks like the Qtec 110 is a Magician

Why dont you just say that you dont want a Charmer sub forum. I have seen a couple of sarcastic comments on this already about people posting Charmer questions. They have to post here, they have no-where else to post questions.
A Charmer sub forum would be helpful, the device is different from the Magician, even if it looks the same.
I like my Charmer, it works well. I have problems with it sometimes and I would like to post, I have not though mainly due to 'processor snobbery' that sometimes creeps into this forum. Thats sad, because XDA Developers is a brilliant site and is sometimes let down by sarcasm.
Regards Jeff

A2DP Bluetooth
I also have an MDA Compact II (charmer) and find it difficult to find specific advice for this model on the forum. I used to have an imate jam (magician) and was able to install a simple bluetooth stack patch that worked perfectly and allowed me to use my logitech BT headphones.
I cannot find any similar patch for the charmer on this site to allow me to upgrade the useless WM5 BT stack and allow A2DP support. Anyone else found a patch that works for this device?

Well, I can understand what others are thinking consider Charmer seems to have an extremly small user group as compared with others. The good thing, is however, Charmer is very like the Wizard `internally` and hence most of the Charmer problems can be solved using Wizard's stuff. As far as the wiki goes, it seems that Charmer is only sold on UK and German, hence the number of limited users.
And, wopffej, for a member with only 1 post, you are certainly making a huge sweeping statemnt
For others, read here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=254489&highlight=

Yep your right. A bit overblown! Anyway 2 posts now.
Still would be nice to have a Charmer sub forum.
Regards Jeff

I totally agree with all the comments here regarding a new sub forum. Admittedly some of the problems can be resolved using the replies from the magician but in theory there is a large charmer community out there. Folks with charmers want to speak to like minded people also with charmers. I have had a Wallaby, BA and now a Charmer and think it deserves its own forum. Thats me had my tuppence worth..thanks JD76..

Help MDA Compact 2 bricked!!!
Hiya. I have a MDA Compact 2.
I had the brilliant idea of try to debrand the device.After an unsuccesfull flashing with a debrand rom anounced on this site.The pda kept freezing.Not happy I've tried to reflash it with my Molski Room for Qtek 9100 (wizard).The process ran out smooth but when it finished the pda dont stard up, does not even light up.The only thing that happens is that the screen keep flickering as trying to do something.
Some1 out there help me

Luiz said:
Hiya. I have a MDA Compact 2.
I had the brilliant idea of try to debrand the device.After an unsuccesfull flashing with a debrand rom anounced on this site.The pda kept freezing.Not happy I've tried to reflash it with my Molski Room for Qtek 9100 (wizard).The process ran out smooth but when it finished the pda dont stard up, does not even light up.The only thing that happens is that the screen keep flickering as trying to do something.
Some1 out there help me
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Its totally bricked now, by installing a Wizard Rom youve trashed the bootloaders. you could of fixed it by using the tmobile mdac2 rom but it needs to go back to the manufacturer now. and dont try and blame me, you didnt follow the instructions i laid out for my debranded rom, it didnt work cos you installed it on aku1 bootloaders when i clearly put, it needs aku2 bootloaders and how to check if you had them already.

what is new with separate thread? this is discrimination :-D

Yeah lets get back to the original request, remove these spurious posts!!. How about a separate sub forum for us charmer owners??? surely someone must have the clout out there to make a decision. any backers....

who can create new category for mda charmer.... ? we must say to anybody, who has privilege for creating this category (mda compact II - charmer)

I take it none of the adminstrators are listening to us Charmer (aka Compact II) owners. Can anyone??? clarify if a sub category is possible????????????
Thanks....

i speak english very little... who is able to create this new subforum?

Check the main page, Charmer Forums now open!!

Good one Dave much appreciated. There is a lot of Charmer users out there. So after requesting and the administrators being so kind to create lets get posting!!!!!

CHARMER (aka MDA COMPACT 2) forum :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=344

Andes is also xda2i?

It said in the descriptions that the Andes is also sold as xda2i? But Alpine has the exact same description. Can anyone tell me how to tell the difference? And if indeed I own an "Andes", would I be able to use the Himalaya Rom Upgrades?
Thanks

yeah same thing confuses me too, did u find answers?

i have both a xda2 and a xda2i, the 2i has wifi, a more powerful cpu and more memory.
but is essencially the same but it cannot take a xda2 rom. due to its differances.