Hi All,
I was wondering if anyone knows of an application that has a CPU monitor in it, that works for the Hermes? I ask because I'm a control freak, and want to know when my hermes slows down, if its because its processing something or because its crashed? I know that the CPU monitor will take up more CPU cycles thereby slowing things down even further, but just want to trial it to see.
I think that the latest version of Pocket Hack Master is supposed to support the processor in the hermes, but I want to avoid installing this since I understand that using this application can cause a hard reset of the hermes when you try overclock. So I'm going to throw caution to the wind and not install it at all.
Thanks in advance.
Gene
GeneNZ said:
Hi All,
I was wondering if anyone knows of an application that has a CPU monitor in it, that works for the Hermes? I ask because I'm a control freak, and want to know when my hermes slows down, if its because its processing something or because its crashed? I know that the CPU monitor will take up more CPU cycles thereby slowing things down even further, but just want to trial it to see.
I think that the latest version of Pocket Hack Master is supposed to support the processor in the hermes, but I want to avoid installing this since I understand that using this application can cause a hard reset of the hermes when you try overclock. So I'm going to throw caution to the wind and not install it at all.
Thanks in advance.
Gene
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Do you want to know the CPU load, like in XP Task Manager?
Try XCPUScaler.
It has a TaskBar CPU Meter option.
chainbolt said:
Do you want to know the CPU load, like in XP Task Manager?
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Yep, something like the WinXP Task Manager/Performance Monitor. I know that XCPUScalar has a CPU Monitor, but its also an overclocking app, and for the time being, until someone has confirmed that a overclocking apps works without hard resetting the hermes, hoping to steer clear of them. On top of this, I don't really want to pay for the app when I'm just seeking a minor part of its functionality. I probably will purchase it when it successfully supports the hermes CPU. Thanks for the advice though. Anyone know of any other app?
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Hey all,
I'm new to WM5 (or WM for that matters) and picked up my MDA from Tmobile a few days ago. I noticed windows becomes very sluggish at times (takes a long time for a key response). It's so slow sometimes it looks like it has hung in between program changes
I'm just running the basic programs that came with the phone and not using SD card at all.
Is this because I'm running low on Program memory? I noticed my program is at around 5 MB when this happens.
Should this even be happening w/ the basic apps? It seems to help when I start stop some of the running programs.
I hope I don't have OC the damn thing to run basic apps.
ROM version: 1.8.10.2 WWE (any better out there?)
ROM date: 12/10/05
I have an 8125 and it can get slow when running a few large programs of things. Like PIE or Opera & Media Player or Core. I will also tell you that its not an extremely fast device but it is in part due to the fact that programs are not writen to utilize the processor the Wizard has. That's what I have come to understand atleast. If anyone else has input on it please share.
Later; Lew
I was hoping Opera would be less "fat" but from you have indicated that might not be the case. I wonder if Verizon's XV6700 make a difference in speed since their version is 400mhz.
I figure they're pretty much the same device and decided to go w/ TMobile since it's GSM.
Back to the slow issue, I notice the apps don't really close even if you close them. I have go to System to manually stop them to get the RAM back. Is that normal?
It is also slow because of memory design. There are more topics on this. You can't lose data when battery is empty, but type of memory used is slower.
Well thats a trade I am willing to make. I was always checking my battery on my SX66. Now atleast I can relax and jsut use the device. The 6700 from verizon should run these apps faster because it has a normal but higher speed procesor. It is 400 mhz but not dual core. Where as the Wizard is 200 (195) mhz Dual Core. I think that if apps were writen to utilize this they would run much better, as fast as the 400mhz.
Later; Lew
Do you have Skype installed?
My xda mini S became extremely slow a month ago or so. It was pretty much unusable. Once I uninstalled Skype there was a massive speed increase.
street_hawk said:
Do you have Skype installed?
My xda mini S became extremely slow a month ago or so. It was pretty much unusable. Once I uninstalled Skype there was a massive speed increase.
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That doesn't make sense, unless you were constantly running skype. Just having skype installed doesn't slow down the device. I have it installed, and there are no resources being used if I don't launch it.
Optical,
Have you applied the various reg hacks (WM5 Cache, and Glyphecache) yet? They do make a difference.
Skype has a minimum processor speed requirement, quite clearly stated on their website, which the XDA Mini unfortunately does not meet. Again, unfortunately that is the only version you can use for it since earlier Skype builds will not run at all under WM5. One trick is to run Skype from the MiniSD card which has the advantage of freeing up precious RAM, in fact I would recommend you only install any new applications onto the MiniSD card.
Skype
In my case I found a noticeable improvement once I uninstalled Skype. It wasn't running constantly. I regularly checked the Task Manager closing all unnecessary apps as it was so slow.
Might just be me though!
optical said:
Hey all,
I'm new to WM5 (or WM for that matters) and picked up my MDA from Tmobile a few days ago. I noticed windows becomes very sluggish at times (takes a long time for a key response). It's so slow sometimes it looks like it has hung in between program changes
I'm just running the basic programs that came with the phone and not using SD card at all.
Is this because I'm running low on Program memory? I noticed my program is at around 5 MB when this happens.
Should this even be happening w/ the basic apps? It seems to help when I start stop some of the running programs.
I hope I don't have OC the damn thing to run basic apps.
ROM version: 1.8.10.2 WWE (any better out there?)
ROM date: 12/10/05
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When you close programs in Windows Mobile they are not realy stopped!!
Thats why your memory is around 5 mb after a while.
If you want to stop programs at once, you need some special programs like SPB Pocket Plus.
May be this will help your memory loss and slow ppc.
Marvie said:
When you close programs in Windows Mobile they are not realy stopped!!
Thats why your memory is around 5 mb after a while.
If you want to stop programs at once, you need some special programs like SPB Pocket Plus.
May be this will help your memory loss and slow ppc.
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Very true.
Another good one that I like using is Battery Pack Pro. The nice little "X" is in the corner of the screen and it lets you "click" the program close like windows normally would. It also lets you click on the "X" to see any running apps and force close them.
I'm just waiting for my miniSD card before I go with the tweaks. I'm just a little surprised at what I have to do to just run the apps the OS came with. I guess I had a higher expectation for this device as for performance. You would think 64MB on a phone device is enough!
I noticed one of the tweaks is references the GPS. What is that about? Is that referring to GPS as in GPS receiver? =)
I got a BT receiver and planning to use it but I would love to be surprised about the GPS feature.
JNGold said:
street_hawk said:
Do you have Skype installed?
My xda mini S became extremely slow a month ago or so. It was pretty much unusable. Once I uninstalled Skype there was a massive speed increase.
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That doesn't make sense, unless you were constantly running skype. Just having skype installed doesn't slow down the device. I have it installed, and there are no resources being used if I don't launch it.
Optical,
Have you applied the various reg hacks (WM5 Cache, and Glyphecache) yet? They do make a difference.
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I will definitely give it a try. Please keep the great tips coming!
FalconGrey said:
Marvie said:
When you close programs in Windows Mobile they are not realy stopped!!
Thats why your memory is around 5 mb after a while.
If you want to stop programs at once, you need some special programs like SPB Pocket Plus.
May be this will help your memory loss and slow ppc.
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Very true.
Another good one that I like using is Battery Pack Pro. The nice little "X" is in the corner of the screen and it lets you "click" the program close like windows normally would. It also lets you click on the "X" to see any running apps and force close them.
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Hi all,
I am trying to use Skype on my S200 and it works ok when using it for text (what could go wrong there anyway )
However if I try to call then I get prob's.
Very slow, then I get sound problems (reception mainly).
Is this a problem anybody else is experiencing as well? Does anyone here have a solution? I remember reading about overclocking but I thought the OMAP processor that qtek s200 had is good enough to handle Skype?!
For info I downloaded the mobile version for 9090 as only 2 were available. The other one was for qtek 9000 (which I have not tried out yet).
"The minimum requirements to run Skype for Pocket PC 2.0 are:
· OS: Windows Mobile 5.0 Pocket PC or Pocket PC 2003
· Display: 320x240, 640x480 (portrait or landscape), 240x240, 480x480
· CPU: 312Mhz + (Optimized sound quality versions for Intel Xscale, 312Mhz and for 400MHz+), b
· Network: WiFi, 3G or EDGE "
Any ideas/suggestions?
P.S. I would like to avoid the overclocking solution if possible.
Thanks!
Hi Makis,
I am afraid you have to go through overclocking to get acceptable performances with Skype. I am currently using the latest version for Mobile (2.0) downloadable from the skype site.
Search the forum for OmapClock and Skype... you'll find all directions to run it.
...until a new version, optimized for Omap/dual core comes out... if ever...
Bye.
slvrbllt said:
Hi Makis,
I am currently using the latest version for Mobile (2.0) downloadable from the skype site.
Bye.
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Hi
Which one ? The one for slowest processor or the "normal" one ?
Thx for your answer.
slvrbllt,
Thanks for the reply.
I guess no other way around it. Overclocking it is then. One of these days I will give it a try, I remember seeing something about over clocking in here.
PS
Did you download the one for 9090 or 9000?
Thanks again.
See last post in this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40583&highlight=skype+arm
and you should be able to try out the older, but specialized Skype for ARM devices, unlike the Xcale version that everyone here is using which is causing problems on Prophet. Download the GENERIC ARM version and give it a try.
Please post your results after trying it out.
krale thanks!
very helpful indeed.
For those who will read this in the future I think it is better if you follow the link that krale provided were you can find more specific and detailed info on this subject.
Makis101 said:
krale thanks!
very helpful indeed.
For those who will read this in the future I think it is better if you follow the link that krale provided were you can find more specific and detailed info on this subject.
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Look for A2DP tread on this forum... Sorry, I can't point you directly.
skype version
You can use the older Skype ARM version, however you won't have access to the contacts you may have added on your desktop version, since it is the newer v.2 which supports the server contact list.
However I'm using the new version of Skype without problems, overclocked to 240 of course.
Get the 312Mhz version from here:
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/mobile/download.html
I haven't tried the high speed one, it may work if you feel like experimenting.
All,
Thank you for your replies and suggestions, everything was very helpfull.
I decided to give overclocking a try.
I tried the opmapclock that you can find in the forums (search for overclocking) There is also a step by step guide on how to keep your gadget overclocked the whole time, because once the phone goes to sleep you have to overclock it again.
I tried my S200 running on 228Mhz and 240Mhz (skype worked fine) and so did all the other applications. I found the 228 enough to see a small improvement.. DO NOT expect miracles and please be careful since there can be some issues if youi over do it. I suggest you do some research in here before you decide to overclock.
I used the latest skype version (I think it is the 2.0 version).
Anyway I hope someone else can also find this info usefull in the future.
Once again thanks for all the help..
Makis
You also have the option of using other VOIP solutions. Do a search for SJphone and sipdiscount and you'll find more info. I can use SJphone without overclocking, but I need to overclock to 240 for the new version of skype.
Thanks Matterhorn I will have a look.
Hi guys!
I'm tryign to overclock my Jamin, to 240MHZ, with a simple guide found on this forum... (omapclock and memmaid...)
I think i do the right stuff but... I can I see/test the actual MHZ of my cpu? Can I search for a specific running task to be sure the overclock is running?
Why not just run a benchmark and see the results for yourself?
The Jamin seems to works fine and swifth at 240MHZ but I'd like to make a test/benchmark too....
well, that's what I just sugested, isn't it ?
With The Core Pocket Media Player (TCPMP) you can see the speed at which the processor is running in the options menu. Google to find the app ( it is freeware AND the best media player, much better than WMP).
I try with TCPMP and it show me speed = 225MHZ but in OmapClk the showen speed is 240MHZ...... :roll:
TCPMP is known to report other CPU speeds. Just use the benchmark function with and w/o having overclocked and you'll see the difference in computing speed.
Okay but... is there any programs to make serious benchmark on pda? Is it free?
Look for SPB Benchmark. Free for personal usage.
Has anybody had luck with overclocking the TyTN? I tried a while back, and Pocket Hackmaster hard reset my device... xCPUScalar didn't do anything. I need to squeeze an extra 100MHz if possible for my psx emulator - thanks!
lacroixdp said:
Has anybody had luck with overclocking the TyTN? I tried a while back, and Pocket Hackmaster hard reset my device... xCPUScalar didn't do anything. I need to squeeze an extra 100MHz if possible for my psx emulator - thanks!
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nothing yet.. PHM killed my device also, however i was successfully able to underclock to 251MHz... and xpuscaler wont work becuase the hermes/TyTn doesnt have an OMAP processor
That's a shame! I'm really looking forward to squeezing some more speed out of my TyTN!
what psx emulator are you using? where can i get it??
hi all,
Is there a program out there that can monitor the phone's performance, much like you can for a pc as i'm trying to get the optimum performance out of the phone and hopefully the program would tell me which programs slow the phone down etc.
try memaid or pocket mechanic pro. they can also clean out temp files etc.etc.
they seem to work ok for me
many thanks, will look into them right away