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Hello,
I have PDA2K (integrated WIFI of course).
I don't have any WIFI at work or home. But I may want to use it
sometimes outdoors in special cafes and internet wifi areas.
I didn't get the chance to use WIFI yet.
From what I undetstand, when WIFI radio is ON, my machine will automatically detect WIFI if areas that have it and I do not even need to do a single thing.
But I came across this program WiFiFoFum. From what I understand
it is a WIFI scanner, so that if I go to urban areas, it can automatically
scan for WIFI zones with public Internet and connect me there.
My question is what's the use if WM2003SE does it automatically already?
I'm looking for an easy and fast solution.
Thanks !
sorci said:
Hello,
I have PDA2K (integrated WIFI of course).
I don't have any WIFI at work or home. But I may want to use it
sometimes outdoors in special cafes and internet wifi areas.
I didn't get the chance to use WIFI yet.
From what I undetstand, when WIFI radio is ON, my machine will automatically detect WIFI if areas that have it and I do not even need to do a single thing.
But I came across this program WiFiFoFum. From what I understand
it is a WIFI scanner, so that if I go to urban areas, it can automatically
scan for WIFI zones with public Internet and connect me there.
My question is what's the use if WM2003SE does it automatically already?
I'm looking for an easy and fast solution.
Thanks !
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wififofum give you a list of all the AP's near you with there SSID and the SNR (signal strenght in db) and tells you if there encypted etc. the windows one is like XP zero config, it just pops up whenever it finds one and lets you connect to it, with a scanner you are scanning and not connecting,but it may give you the option to connect (perhaps when you find an open AP)
you should check out PocketWinCE, its my fav IMO, also check others like ministumbler but this probly wont work.
scanners (uses legally) are good to walk around your company premises to check for rouge AP's etx, illegally it can be used to find open AP that you could use to access internet email or anything TCP really,
I took a 5 km drive one day..
Windows came up with four different findings for connections..
WiFiFoFum found 24...
That's a 6:1 ratio for WFFF...
And at only a few hundred k.. ..install it and enjoy..
Bonzo said:
I took a 5 km drive one day..
Windows came up with four different findings for connections..
WiFiFoFum found 24...
That's a 6:1 ratio for WFFF...
And at only a few hundred k.. ..install it and enjoy..
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around and about glasgow you find loads and loads of AP's and many are unencrypted and unopened,
check out pocket lan, this goes great with wireless networking, you can map printers, shares, and much much more but i wont go into that as i doubt its gonna be used legally (in most cases)
COOL Thank you all guys for good info.
So what's the verdict for a good program that doesn't require
hours of tweakings and techie games to use ? Something simple
that will get the job done ?
Also are Encryped channels really encrypted? I mean, when surfing from an coffee shop that has WIFI, how can I be sure that my communication is totally encrypted and that no simple software sniffer can get catch all the data? OR maybe even hack my pocket pc ?
I thought about the WiFiFoFum as it's the first one I came accross with, but let's hear your choices for my goals (i.e. probably onle to catch wifi zones on t he streets) + sharing etc... would be nice.. disregard the price of the utility, i'm interested in performance.
Thanks guys!
WiFiFo Fum is the best..
It's simple to use, requires little memory, and can be used to connect to the AP's it finds..
As for encryption..
No, there is no WiFi network in the world that is secure..
The way ethernet is buildt, everyone with a very simple sniffer can download ALL your data stream..
As for security.. With WEP encryption, they will need roughly 4 to 6 GB of data before they can crack it and get any information from the data stream..
Don't be paranoid!
If you wanna check that it works, go stand outside PC world, or McSh1te and get WiFiForUm to do some sniffing.
You are right when you say that it 'should just work' unfortunately, though MS wrote windows mobile so it likely wont! If you dont find any hotspots when you think there should be some try a soft restart (my XDA IIs requires this swapping from work-->home AP, but not for Home-->work AP very odd.
Of course the AP's at PC world/mcsh1te will be btopenzone or thecloud ap's which means that it costs approximately 5 million pounds per hour to use them. But if you can sniff them and get to the appropriate 'give us your c/card page' then you've proven that the device works. Check out the btopenzone/thecloud websites for their login url's.
If they ever start being honest and offering a per MB tarriff at hotspots then I'll start using them.
Nigel
veletron said:
If you wanna check that it works, go stand outside PC world, or McSh1te and get WiFiForUm to do some sniffing.
You are right when you say that it 'should just work' unfortunately, though MS wrote windows mobile so it likely wont! If you dont find any hotspots when you think there should be some try a soft restart (my XDA IIs requires this swapping from work-->home AP, but not for Home-->work AP very odd.
Of course the AP's at PC world/mcsh1te will be btopenzone or thecloud ap's which means that it costs approximately 5 million pounds per hour to use them. But if you can sniff them and get to the appropriate 'give us your c/card page' then you've proven that the device works. Check out the btopenzone/thecloud websites for their login url's.
If they ever start being honest and offering a per MB tarriff at hotspots then I'll start using them.
Nigel
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tha scots knows all!! haha
thanks for all replies.
I downloaded the latest version of the program (0.3.3 i think)
Couldn't understand it or get it to work properly, it seems designed towards network technicians, not some normal pc/pda freak.
several issues:
1) When I go in urban areas, it does show on the Radar many spots, but the machine's own notification of 'Do you want to use xxxx for connecting to internet or work' dialog is interrupting it, and it starts to be a 'concert' of the WiFiFum and the internal network programs making noise.
2) When I did see many spots and tried to connect to some of them in the list screen(Try to tap and hold on the radar screen does ****) , it doesn't do ****. I click on Connect and no other dialog box or anything shows me as connected or something. Very akward program I must say. I also don't see in the list something which says if a spot is private or public (i.e. anonymous internet access allowed). And even not any help file. Seems like no human engineering was made here. I'd rather buy a program and pay nicely if it works rather than getting even a freeware which simply doesn't work.
Any other suggestion for other light programs that can actually work are very welcomed..
thanks again guys.
I think the problem might be between the stylus and the screen..
WiFiFoFum works flawlessly..
And please, forget about using the radar..
It will not work properly until you use TWO wifi cards..
When you see the list, tap and hold any AP to bring up a "Connect" option.
Now, you must remember; WFFF discovers EVERYTHING!
WM2003 only lets you connect to AP's that meets certain demands. (Signal strength is one)
I firmly believe that WFFF is the best software out there, just like NetStumbler is for Win32 environments..
I find it easy to use, and provides all the information I need..
How do you propose that the software can find out if you must pay before using it or not?
I guess this could be solved by connecting, pinging google, disconnecting and marking as "Public"/"Private"...
Though this would slow down the whole process so much, It would not be usable for anything else...
The concert can be disabled by the options panel, or just turning off the sound..
Sadly, we can't disable the WM2003 settings..
Street Hawk tries to connect to google so you know if the connection works.
Hi all,
I have an i-mate k-jam and I was wandering what was the best software to automaticaly connect to any open wifi.
I'm currently using WiFiFoFum2 that has a really cool radar detection and the possibility to add them as POI in TOMTOM. But it doesn't try to connect to the wifi network it found.
Do you have a good war driving prog??? (Maybe one that can try to Hack the "password protected" network)??? In general, what tool do you use for war driving???
Thanks.
I agree this would be a neat idea, especially if used with a GPS/Google maps/etc. to mark open networks. Im in Boston, and open networks are ALL over the place.
I don't know if this is a good idea.. because many networks have no encryption but they re-direct you to a web page in order to register (they check the mac addr)
The best way is to use wifofum to find networks with ssid default, linksys, usrobotics, wireless, etc...
then you can connect and check your e-mails
I can add that even on a fast machine it takes quite some time to hack 128 WEP, Let alone WPA. You need to capture about a million packets if the encryption is 128 WEP, then you can crack the code, in about an hour on a 2 ghz lappy with 512 of ram (last time I tryed =)) 64 bit WEP may be possible on a pocket pc but I cant think of anyone who would still use that. That lappy could crack that in about 5 min, with a minimal amount of packets. Nice idea though :twisted:
Later; Lew
you don't need to crack anything...
I travel a lot...
I need max 10min walking with wifofum to locate an unencrypted access point that shares internet... with ssid default etc...
I was in amsterdam last week. I could find open APs anywhere (even inside the room of my hotel from a nearby house/company) !
And you are not breaking any law....
If you crack wep then you do...
many foolish people turn on WEP or WPA and use the routers default pass key, maybe a program with a list of default keys which it tries could be useful.
The defaults keys may vary from manufacturer to manufacturer but there are lists available on the internet.
R
ameriaux said:
Hi all,
I'm currently using WiFiFoFum2 that has a really cool radar detection and the possibility to add them as POI in TOMTOM. But it doesn't try to connect to the wifi network it found.
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Try HitchHiker 0.4 beta1 (http://www.kasuei.com/hitchhiker/) it's similar to wififofum but it will connect.
No WEP cracking or dictionary attack though.
bye
risidoro said:
ameriaux said:
Hi all,
I'm currently using WiFiFoFum2 that has a really cool radar detection and the possibility to add them as POI in TOMTOM. But it doesn't try to connect to the wifi network it found.
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Try HitchHiker 0.4 beta1 (http://www.kasuei.com/hitchhiker/) it's similar to wififofum but it will connect.
No WEP cracking or dictionary attack though.
bye
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Tried this - unfortunately it kept dying shortly after conecting to an available network - went back to wififofum2 - admitedly it doesnt connect but it does a good job of finding networks.
.NET 2.0 and Hitchhiker
Hitchhiker says it needs .net 2.0, and that is 24MB! Does it really need .net and how much free space does .net require? Will .net install on the sd card?
Found a cab file here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=51118&highlight=net
and it is 2MB. Would still like to know if this can install on the sd card, does it screw up .net version 1, which is needed for registry wizard, and is hitchhiker worth it?
bratag : i noticed that the Hitchhiker crashed due to trying to connect using Pocket MSN. Try registering your MSN using the pocket MSN.
I did it and it works find after that
Tried Hitchhiker in WM%
and it crashed incessantly, sometimes taking the whole device down. It was a nuisance to install .net 2, although it helps to use the cab file located at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=51118
and then to follow the instructions involving shutting off the today screen items, soft reset, shut down all running programs (I used memmaid for this) and then install the cab. That got .net to run. Then I installed hitchhiker, but it seemed to conflict with the default wifi connection. I was near a wep enabled wifi connection of my own. Hitchhiker would accept the password and even connect me, then crash. I could still reach the internet even after it crashed, although a couple of times I had to do a soft reset because the screen wasn't responsive.
There was a report elsewhere of a t-mobile / hitchhiker problem, so perhaps it is the T-Mobile customization.
Is this really better than the native wm5 program for finding wifi's and connecting to them? Actually, often I can't connect to unprotected wifis very well, which is why I tried this program, but with 5 MB for .net and frequent crashes, it doesn't seem worth it. I would appreciate your reaction, however, since I would like to be able to use voip (sjphone) in Europe and readily connecting to wifis would help.
Yes Hitchhiker crashed for me too...
Finally I use an old version of WiFiFoFum = 0.3.3 to detect hotspot but unfortunaltely can't connect with it...
Ive tried Wi-Fi companion but it's a shareware and can't make it work on my 9100.
Does somebody has a complete list of the default ssid (maybe depend on the country)... linksys, usrobotics, wireless...
I'm really interested in the routers in France and USA.
Thanks
Wifi Companion is a pretty nice app. It has a connect option and has trace route and ping utilities as well..
http://www.socketcom.com/product/SW1221-596.asp
I have used all of those mentioned and had problems with all of them freezing, crashing etc. I now use PocketWiNc, version 1.3 build 952. It is a special edition put out by PC mag. I dont remember where I got it, but I am sure a search can find it. It is free but has just a couple features that dont work in the free version (that I wouldnt use anyway).
PocketWinc the Special PC Mag Edition can be found here for free...
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/en/index.php?soft=1052
mine wizard cant connect on network after I use wififo,so I had to hard reset and backup it and now working ok
mapas said:
you don't need to crack anything...
I travel a lot...
I need max 10min walking with wifofum to locate an unencrypted access point that shares internet... with ssid default etc...
I was in amsterdam last week. I could find open APs anywhere (even inside the room of my hotel from a nearby house/company) !
And you are not breaking any law....
If you crack wep then you do...
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In The Netherlands you are breaking the law, well according to the new system. But if you can't protect your open wifi you are probably 99.999 of 100.000 shure you will not be seen on the network
techspy said:
I have used all of those mentioned and had problems with all of them freezing, crashing etc. I now use PocketWiNc, version 1.3 build 952. It is a special edition put out by PC mag. I dont remember where I got it, but I am sure a search can find it. It is free but has just a couple features that dont work in the free version (that I wouldnt use anyway).
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I tried installing this on my wizard, and it said it couldnt find a wifi adapter...
jmel said:
techspy said:
I have used all of those mentioned and had problems with all of them freezing, crashing etc. I now use PocketWiNc, version 1.3 build 952. It is a special edition put out by PC mag. I dont remember where I got it, but I am sure a search can find it. It is free but has just a couple features that dont work in the free version (that I wouldnt use anyway).
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I tried installing this on my wizard, and it said it couldnt find a wifi adapter...
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Do you have your wifi on before starting the app?
I found streethawk out on the modaco forums and was wondering if is a viable option over hitchhiker. Anyone know anything about compatibility with wm5? Usability?
doesn't work for me just says "waiting on WCZ to be free" forever and doesn't show any networks. (or was it WSZ? i can't remember)
jamiemckee said:
doesn't work for me just says "waiting on WCZ to be free" forever and doesn't show any networks. (or was it WSZ? i can't remember)
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Mine said the same, couldnt be arsed to try to get it working. Hitchhiker works perfectly for me.
Doesn't work here also.
Too bad....looked like a nice little app
Hitchiker always crashes after it's found the network for me. On an O2 mini s.
On my Qtek 9100 HitchHiker behaves strangely also. It usually finds half the APs WiFiFoFum does, and it NEVER connects. Also, on exiting it borks the PDA, and I have to manually remove it from memory to get things going again.
Is there anyone with a Qtek 9100 out there who has HitchHiker actually working and can suggest a reliable operating procedure?
Also, are there any other wardriving (WITH connecting feature) which actually work?
Well, I haven't tried Streethawk but it's disappointing that won't work.
I've had hitchiker running just fine on my wizard, though. I didn't do anything special but I exit just fine and while I only connect at my house it's able to do that just fine. I'll try doing a comparison sometime of the two war-drivers and see how many networks each gives me.
Couldnt get Hitchiker to work on my Wizard. Get a message about and error and the program has to close. This happens just after it has found an access point and tries to connect.
i find that WiFiFoFum works good for me, version 0.3.3.3 i think, if you go for the nicer looking version 2 then you have to install .net compact framework version 2 as well. plus if you connect a GPS unit then you can try and triangulate the signal
WiFiFoFum is great, but only to scan for APs. It doesn't have a simple way to select one of them and connect to it - or am I missing something?
bubism said:
WiFiFoFum is great, but only to scan for APs. It doesn't have a simple way to select one of them and connect to it - or am I missing something?
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No it's true - really annoying in a multiple network area if you want to hit a specific AP.
Yes sorry i forgot that, it doesnt allow you to connect, but i did find that it logs AP even if they have only got the WEAKEST signal or you only see it for a split second so you can then go in search. if im bored i go looking for AP's using WiFiFoFum and then try to connect using a combo of 'PockLan' which allows you to ping and search a range of an IP subnet and also map a drive of a share (the mapping is abit flacky) otherwise i use RescoExplorer to map the drive bacause its good at it.
Does anyone try and connect while wardriving or are you just looking?
P.S i am still looking for a good BlueJacking software for windows mobil, for symbian there are loads of good one like BTEXPLORer and SMan
Anyone know any? apart from 'smurf'
Hi Guys,
I know this isn't a hitchiker support forum but all their links appear dead and no DNS regsitered for their [email protected] email address.
So here goes.
I have a Hermes (obviously) a.k.a. T-Mobile Vario II, it has the standard T-Mobile ROM on it and I am open for upgrade ROM's if they are likely to help / improve the device.
I have installed Hitchiker to the standard place having installed Dot Net compact and it works in as much as it can see my wireless network etc, but it then does something elese after connection which causes the following error.
I have tried re-installing both hitchhiker and dot net..
Code:
Hitchhiker.exe
NullReferenceException
at
kasuei.PocketPC.wireless.Hitchhiker.MainForm.get_IsMsnMessengerAutologinEnabled()
at
kasuei.PocketPC.wireless.Hitchhiker.MainForm.WlanAgent_StateChanged()
at
TASK.Invoke()
at
System.Windows.Forms.Control._InvokeAll()
at
System.Windows.Forms.Control.WnProc()
at
System.Windows.Forms.ContatinerControl.WnProc()
at
System.Windows.Forms.Form.WnProc()
at
System.Windows.Forms.Control._Internal.WnProc()
at
Microsoft.AGL.Forms.EVL.EnterMainLoop()
at
kasuei.PocketPC.wireless.Hitchhiker.EntryPoint.Main()
Hi Matt,
I had similar thing (crashed at same time, but slightly different error codes etc ... but I am on An orbit / Artemis). Before I 100% Blame Hitchhicker, I also got an error message on installing .net 2 ... but otherwise seemed OK. I did a search on 'Hitchhiker' and .. got some VERY bad feedback - people having their systems trashed by it. So decided to uninstall both it and .net2.
to be safe.
As an alternative I found pocketWinc ... which seems to offer much the same, without .net2, and (and the hype ?). I've not tried it yet but will let you know.
Sorry no help for the problem identified, but just wanted to balance the picture on Hitchhiker. I doubt there's an application out there that does not cause problems for a proportion of people. So much depends on how you hav things set up and what other applications are installed.
For me to date (7 months) I have not experienced any problems with either .net or Hitchhiker. In fact I recommend Hitchhiker as for me and others it has helped to sort out wifi connection problems by automating various of the settings and renewing the IP automatically when necessary. In fact on quite a few occassions it has been the only app. to get me connected again.
I do not however run Hitchhiker all the time. I use it to create the connection enter the settings and once connected I close Hitchhiker and the wifi connection. I then let PIE or other browser connect automatically without going through hitchhiker first.
I did have on the two occasions that I had to install hitchhiker note that when first run it comes up with an error. A soft reset cured this on both occasions.
Perhaps the advice for others is that if you have anything unusual or any more specialised settings needed for your connection then perhaps don't use hitchhiker. If your connection is a plain old vanilla type with standard router, wep key and so on, then it can do a very good job at sorting out connection issues.
Mike
May be the same problem I had with Hitchhiker - always got an error message like the one above until I installed MSN Messenger (which doesn't come as standard on my Hermes), then it worked fine.
If you already have MSN messenger then make sure you login at least once through MSN Messenger. The error message gives the clues as it says something about MSNmessengerautologin enabled.
Hi friends,
I was found the same problem.
I solve it easily in this way:
1. switch on Hitchhiker followed by it minimize
2. swith on the wifi module
Black Eagle
Requirements: WM5, WM6
Overview: WeFi for Pocket PC is the best software for finding and connecting to WiFi networks.
With WeFi, you always get the optimal WiFi connection.
When you're not connected, WeFi constantly monitors your surroundings, so when you do want to connect it's already aware of the best network.
WeFi for Pocket PC is the best software for finding and connecting to wireless networks with your windows mobile device. With WeFi, you always get the optimal WiFi connection, while keeping the battery consumption to a minimum. The WeFi software provides you with an intuitive and aesthetic user interface to manage your WiFi connection and allows you to automatically launch application once such connection is found. Once connection is established, the WeFi server provides you with information gathered by other WeFi users about your wireless environment, so that your connection gets even better.
In addition, the new one-touch feature gives the user a convenient interface to launch any application or webpage from his Today screen, and configure WeFi to automatically find the best WiFi connection available when this application is launched. Each application can be configured to use only WiFi, or revert to 3G data connection if no WiFi is available. So instead of having to go through the annoying process of finding an open WiFi, hotspot after hotspot, and then opening a browser and going to a specific webpage – a total of 200 clicks – the user can have WeFi do all this for him with a single click of the stylus. Also, since the configurable buttons are big enough, the stylus doesn’t even have to come out – the user can simply do it with his finger.
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/126915825/WeFi_for_Pocket_PC_v1.5.6.8.rar
Just gave this a quick try, and kept getting error message " Need net 2.0 to work"?
Running 6.1 rom so have net 3.5 installed?
Also don't know if it was because of this it wouldn't connect to my network and is difficult to configure.
Will keep an eye on this to see if you can fix it. Thanks for allowing us to test.
Installed to Storage Card if that makes a difference?
Same Problem
Ixtana_ran said:
Just gave this a quick try, and kept getting error message " Need net 2.0 to work"?
Running 6.1 rom so have net 3.5 installed?
Also don't know if it was because of this it wouldn't connect to my network and is difficult to configure.
Will keep an eye on this to see if you can fix it. Thanks for allowing us to test.
Installed to Storage Card if that makes a difference?
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Hi; this app looks really useful but I'm also having the problem with Net CF 3.5. I would imagine quite a few people will have the same issue. I couldn't get it to work at all on my Wizard running WM 6.1 and I installed direct to device.
error whit NetCF3.5
same problem, still no working whit NetCF3.5
Help us or give me another programs
thank you
Does this program mess up your WiFi like some have said (elsewhere)?
NetCF
3.5 does NOT include 2.x features. Just install netcf 2.1 + SP2 and it'll run flawless. Wont slow down your system.
thanks for share