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lack of memory on wing

Hey. I'm having problems with the amount of available memory on my Wing. After a soft reset, I only have 27% of my memory left.. it makes it exteremely hard to multitask even a couple programs; my old mda would start off with around 52% of is memory free after a soft reset. I'm using the ROM that came with the phone; my phone was an insurance replacement and arrive a few days ago, so I think that I probably have the latest official ROM. Are there any custom ROMs out yet, for the wing, that help the memory situation, like a more stripped down version.. or any reg tweaks?
Thanks,

adam79 said:
Hey. I'm having problems with the amount of available memory on my Wing. After a soft reset, I only have 27% of my memory left.. it makes it exteremely hard to multitask even a couple programs; my old mda would start off with around 52% of is memory free after a soft reset. I'm using the ROM that came with the phone; my phone was an insurance replacement and arrive a few days ago, so I think that I probably have the latest official ROM. Are there any custom ROMs out yet, for the wing, that help the memory situation, like a more stripped down version.. or any reg tweaks?
Thanks,
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That looks very interesting...but this is a HTC WIZARD FORUM !
Try posting that here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=348

moving to herald.

adam79 said:
Hey. I'm having problems with the amount of available memory on my Wing. After a soft reset, I only have 27% of my memory left.. it makes it exteremely hard to multitask even a couple programs; my old mda would start off with around 52% of is memory free after a soft reset. I'm using the ROM that came with the phone; my phone was an insurance replacement and arrive a few days ago, so I think that I probably have the latest official ROM. Are there any custom ROMs out yet, for the wing, that help the memory situation, like a more stripped down version.. or any reg tweaks?
Thanks,
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ALL the custom roms for wizard are coked with 4MB pagepool. The original ROM has 12 MB - that´s the roblem. You won´t get more memory on wing/herald without custom ROMs.
20MB after hardreset is the most wecan get at the moment.
Sorry.

just wondering..
hey there! i just recently joined this forum and been readin some threads here. and so far i see people saying they have like 12mb memory on their wing... do you guys have any idea how they do that? because i check my wing i only have 2mb... so im wondering how can i improve mine.
thanks for help!

zerorei said:
hey there! i just recently joined this forum and been readin some threads here. and so far i see people saying they have like 12mb memory on their wing... do you guys have any idea how they do that? because i check my wing i only have 2mb... so im wondering how can i improve mine.
thanks for help!
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papamopps said:
ALL the custom roms for wizard are coked with 4MB pagepool. The original ROM has 12 MB - that´s the roblem. You won´t get more memory on wing/herald without custom ROMs.
20MB after hardreset is the most wecan get at the moment.
Sorry.
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If you want a good amount of free memory you will most likely need to flash the ROM on your wing to a custom one found on this website, such as ttran's "Open Touch" (scroll down to the 3rd post to download. Several versions to choose from.) You can use the guide provided by ivanmmj, here, to help you with the process. Here (post #60) is a link to a post regarding the memory/RAM free and used for open touch. There are many other great ROMS out too, i just happen to be using Open Touch 5.0 so its easier for me to explain it. Make sure to read thoroughly to understand all the risks and benefits involved also.

I have 15-22mb free with an oem rom.
Following the directions of previous posters I changed the pagepool size to 6mb. Many posters of a few months ago were talking about how to do this. I believe there's even a cab that will do it for you.
Another way to get more memory is to buy SKTools
HTML:
http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?m_products.html#tools
which has an "optimize" feature that will free up even more memory and tweak a number of go-faster settings.

Yeah, to echo what was said before......the mem wont get better till you get into custom roms.

You do NOT have to use a custom ROM
This might seem to be against the conventional wisdom, but I'd argue that you do NOT have to use a custom ROM to improve the free memory situation on the Wing. I am running the latest official T-Mobile ROM and have about 20 MB free after a soft reset. There are a number of things you can do to increase this number without having to install a custom ROM:
(1) Change the size of the pagepool. I believe the latest T-Mobile ROM has an 8 MB pagepool. I have decreased it to 6, but others use 4 without (as far as I know) too many problems. This gives you 2 or 4 MB extra RAM.
(2) There are many more processes running (and using RAM) on the phone than you see in the standard task manager. That only shows you programs that you have opened yourself. I found that a number of these extra processes are started by shortcuts in the \Windows\StartUp folder, and therefore run when the phone turns on. Some that I removed are btdwake.lnk, My5MsgCenter.lnk, poutlook.lnk, Voice Command.lnk, and WiFiInit.lnk. You can do a search to find out what these are. If you don't use MyFaves, Voice Command, WiFi, etc. you can save a lot of memory by deleting these shortcuts from the StartUp folder. (Note: You have to rename them first, then do a soft reset, and then you will be able to delete them.)
(3) There are processes that are "services" that are always running as well. For this, I'd suggest a program like MemMaid, which shows you the "Startup Services" and allows you to disable them. I personally disabled the SMSCSend (Target: My5Client.dll) and TMW (T-Mobile HotSpot Loging Utility). There may be more. Again, I'd suggest searching for what each one is before disabling it.
Of course some people prefer custom ROMS, and that's fine. Personally, I prefer the standard WM6 Home screen to the various "Touch" interfaces touted by the custom ROMS. Installing a new ROM seemed complicated to me and a little risky for someone who hasn't done it before. Also, I didn't want to have to start from scratch with a new ROM.
Anyway, I'm posting these suggestions as an alternative for those who for whatever reason don't want to install a new ROM. Good luck!

im missing alot of space on my msd and my wm6.1 is screwd plz help

so i dont know what happend ,but i think it had something do to with the spamming calls i got from some b***h that wont leave me alone anyways even though i got a 1gb i can only see 53 MB free but it does read the entire card id show u a pic but mymobiler is being gay or the phone is just f***ed up and windows mobile is f***ed up as well can anyone help me in real time using aim or msn?

try taking a deep breath........ and then using punctuation and other fun stuff like that.
now to your problem......
does it read only 53mb worth of data or does it show that you only have 53mb free when you look at the card under settings>system>memory?

My p3400i suddenly became very slow.

Hi all,
i have p3400i on wm 6.1. Yesterday i installed some themes and Asphalt 3d. Since then my fone has gone extremely slow. it takes a couple of seconds to open one message. Not sure what caused that. i hardly have any programs loaded on it. Please advise what can i do.
Also one thing im noticing is that when i take out the memory card it works fine. Can it be a virus or my memory card is slow???

dj_ron said:
Hi all,
Also one thing im noticing is that when i take out the memory card it works fine. Can it be a virus or my memory card is slow???
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try to backup data from mem card and format the memory card and see if it helps...

i tried that but its still very slow. Right now a call came in but i cudnt even see whoes calling or i couldnt pick up the fone. any ideas???

dj_ron said:
i tried that but its still very slow. Right now a call came in but i cudnt even see whoes calling or i couldnt pick up the fone. any ideas???
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where did u install the themes and the software?
if you have installed it in phone memory ...try to hard reset and the next time install the softwares on ur mem card...

most of my sws are in memory card and i alwaz install the sws in the memory card.

Programs installed on memory card make the device slower, especially if the card is high capacity (> = 2GB).

Also check out how much free memory you have on the device! Some of M2D themes are very heavy. Seen one around 10 MB size in the Dev/ Hack section . So if you loaded some of those themes .

HTC p3400 Very Slow
Hi all,
i have p3400i on wm 6.1.my fone has gone extremely slow. it takes a couple of seconds to open one message. Not sure what caused that.Please advise what can i do.
Cheers
Seshu

hard reset the phone, should take care of it...

Hi, please also remove any temp files and unnecessary registry. I understand the free registry cleaner and clear temperory file utility should help you. These utilities are available free on the net.
Also try to format SD Card (Fat 16).
Cheers!
seshu.playboy said:
Hi all,
i have p3400i on wm 6.1.my fone has gone extremely slow. it takes a couple of seconds to open one message. Not sure what caused that.Please advise what can i do.
Cheers
Seshu
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techmate said:
Hi, please also remove any temp files and unnecessary registry. I understand the free registry cleaner and clear temperory file utility should help you. These utilities are available free on the net.
Also try to format SD Card (Fat 16).
Cheers!
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But if the card is bigger than 2 GB, you cant format it to FAT16

Ya, in that case formating can be done as FAT32.

Ye >>>>>>
The same probs with me dont get upset........... backup all yr data and then hard reset yr phone......feel free to do it............. me too do this...........

wwait a bit.
Dear playboy..
That Asphalt is a nasty app.. that redirects itself to Root, and eats up nice 4+ MB straight.. and more if you run it..
well thats more than enough to pull your Gene down.. especially if your fone is already loaded with apps.
Uninstall it, and delete residual files..
Use Oxios application to free ram / option to soft reset / Google it..
I think that should bring back 90% speed..

RAM is always at 76% usage

Hi all,
My ram is always sitting around 76% usage. Is this normal? After I use the cleanram, it will clean it to about 73% usage. And for example, when i open Opera mobile 10, it will be at around 89% usage. I have a tilt 2 by the way.
thanks in advance!!
Nausicaaa

Nausicaaa said:
Hi all,
My ram is always sitting around 76% usage. Is this normal? After I use the cleanram, it will clean it to about 73% usage. And for example, when i open Opera mobile 10, it will be at around 89% usage. I have a tilt 2 by the way.
thanks in advance!!
Nausicaaa
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which rom are you using?

My Tilt2 used to run +75%. From what I read, some programs take up memory even after being closed out. I did some more searching and installed the Dynamic Resource Proxy and No Push Internet cabs from here. Now I run in the 50-60% range.

I am using the stock tilt 2 rom from AT&T. What does the dynamic resource proxy do?
Thanks!

Hi jcterry, nvm, i just read the forum you linked. Thanks alot for the help! If anyone have any other ideas to get the ram down or if my nam usage at76% is about normal let me know so i dont worry hehe
thanks all

From the "research" that I have done, the high RAM is normal. If you disable the TF3D, obviously it will drop even more (to around 37%). You can also soft reset periodically. When I do that, I start off with 49% but eventually it will go up. I haven't noticed any perfomance issues, so I haven't worried about it.

Nausicaaa said:
Hi all,
My ram is always sitting around 76% usage. Is this normal? After I use the cleanram, it will clean it to about 73% usage. And for example, when i open Opera mobile 10, it will be at around 89% usage. I have a tilt 2 by the way.
thanks in advance!!
Nausicaaa
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That depends a lot on the ROM you are using, normally a stock ROM comes with a lot of garbage on it and makes it more heavy RAM usage.
I would recommend to flash to a cooked ROM, but if you prefer to stay with stock, try to eliminate all the stuff you don´t use.
And don´t forget to vote for Rhodium!!

Nausicaaa said:
Hi jcterry, nvm, i just read the forum you linked. Thanks alot for the help! If anyone have any other ideas to get the ram down or if my nam usage at76% is about normal let me know so i dont worry hehe
thanks all
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You should install CleanRAM if you haven't already.

This is one of a number of threads along a similar line I've read on this forum and that I don't understand.
What I don't understand is why having xx% used RAM is a problem. I mean if you have error messages that say there's not enough free RAM then fair enough but why would it matter otherwise ?
For some unkown reason there's a limit on the number of processes that are allowed to run (by the power of M$) so having some RAM cleaning software running constantly will only limit what else you can run.
If it"s not broken ........

dik23 said:
This is one of a number of threads along a similar line I've read on this forum and that I don't understand.
What I don't understand is why having xx% used RAM is a problem. I mean if you have error messages that say there's not enough free RAM then fair enough but why would it matter otherwise ?
For some unkown reason there's a limit on the number of processes that are allowed to run (by the power of M$) so having some RAM cleaning software running constantly will only limit what else you can run.
If it"s not broken ........
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Things can and frequently do run slower/sluggish/laggy when memory is heavily full even before there's an error message.

This is true, but with 25% free I'm not sure that that's the case here.
And having another process running in the background will defo slow things down, esp when it's active. And seeing as there's a limit on the number of processes you're "allowed" to run I don't think having a RAM cleaner contantly running is a good plan.

MCbrian said:
Things can and frequently do run slower/sluggish/laggy when memory is heavily full even before there's an error message.
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... my case ... apparently WM 6.5 (the new ROM, stock in my case) is much more of a memory hog than 6.1. I have had to become used to the phone freezing during and especially immediately after calls are finished.
One possible explanation could be that I have Auto Call Record installed and running... need to check how it affects RAM
MJ

Of course 6.5 is much more RAM hungry than 6.1
But making the proper tweaks is all about!
have a look on WVGA Tweak (if not installed on your ROM search it) it´s very good tool, as mentioned before

I had the same problem with memory usage. I found the best one to be "Perfect Black" for a cooked ROM. Take a look at some of my other posts. I did some testing with various versions and posted the results for the Rhodium and Raphael.

I get the same thing, too. I found this suggestion by Mighty Mike on ppcgeeks:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=85716
I tried the registry edit (changing sharememsize), and it seems to have worked. Aside from that, you can also disable TF3D, since it seems to eat up about 20MB.

jedah said:
I get the same thing, too. I found this suggestion by Mighty Mike on ppcgeeks:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=85716
I tried the registry edit (changing sharememsize), and it seems to have worked. Aside from that, you can also disable TF3D, since it seems to eat up about 20MB.
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This tweak seems to have worked for me also. So far so good.

RAM Unlock?

Hi, I see that my blackstone works on 45 % of RAM.Can I unlock the rest of my RAM memory?
Thank you!

becinko91 said:
Hi, I see that my blackstone works on 45 % of RAM.Can I unlock the rest of my RAM memory?
Thank you!
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Windows needs RAM to work, you can free up some by closing processes but there is nothing unlockable, you have what you have, aint no more on this device!

Where can I see these processes ? I mean except these which are in "task menager"

becinko91 said:
Where can I see these processes ? I mean except these which are in "task menager"
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They are the processes, if you've not got much RAM left even after a new ROM has been installed then its likely the ROM you have loads a load of junk up. you might need that stuff depending on what you do
try this out though
http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm