Idea for an application... - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

I have no idea if this is possible or not, or if it already exists and i'd appreciate your opinions...
At the moment I use my Vario II to connect to the internet while i'm on the road, normally via USB as bluetooth can be quite flaky.
Would it be at all possible to write an application that creates a wireless access point on the Vario that any laptop in the near vicinity could connect to and browse the internet via 3G?
I've done quite a bit of software development before but normally for Linux and haven't really touched any .NET or other windows development platforms therefore don't know what is possible.

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Potential very noob-like question!

I've just started using my MDA Vario II at work. My problem(s) are as follows:
1) I wanted to use a remote program to access all the functions/screen of my vario from the PC - does anyone know any decent, cheap (or preferably free!) remote programs?
2) I wanted to connect it to the PC and still use my unlimited Web & Walk from T Mobile, rather than the work internet connection - but every time I connect it asks me to input details of my work proxy server. Is there any way I can stop it from doing this? Even if I don't input the details, it still doesn't connect via GPRS.
Any help would be much appreciated! I apologise if I'm asking stupid questions - I'm just fresh from the lands of SE P910i's
1) I haven't seen anything free that was realy worth it. I went ahead and bought the best one I've seen and that's SOTI PocketController. It's $35 but since I write apps for the PocketPC it was worth it. With SOTI you can take screen captures, record video of your screen, download the latest skins so it looks like your phone, get access to a command promt, task viewer and stuff like that. Your suppose to be able to connect to it over the internet as well, but I haven't got this part to work yet.
2) You can use a Bluetooth DUN (DialUpNetwork) connection from your laptop to your phone so that your laptop will use your phone as a modem if there is now WiFi connection around. I use this and it is very handy. T-Mobile's web site has the information you need for this, if you can't find it let me know and I will send you the PDF I have for it.
zakkz said:
1) I wanted to use a remote program to access all the functions/screen of my vario from the PC - does anyone know any decent, cheap (or preferably free!) remote programs?
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I use "remote display control for Pocket PC", it's free (as in beer):
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/wce/downloads/ppctoys.mspx
pof - amazing! that was exactly what I was after - thank you so so much!
as for the internet connection - I might not have explained myself properly. Basically I wanted to have my vario connected to my pc by usb, but then use the web & walk from my phone rather than the work internet connection. At the moment, whenever I connect to my work pc, and try to go onto the internet, it asks me to enter the proxy settings for my work network. I basically wanted to disable this and just use my web and walk connection. is this possible?
Thanks for your replies Codesmoke and Pof. I hope i'll be able to return te favour one day when I get to grips with this device!
Yeaaa i've also been trying to do the internet connection thing through your PC, basically leave the phone charging with USB, but active the bluetooth connection and use your phone as a modem, i never got any further than that, mainly cause the non-microsoft bluetooth stack on my computer was giving me trouble dialing up.
Put "*99#" with no speechmarks as the dial up phone number, this will dial into web and walk. Leave the username/password blank.
You could always plug your device into your laptop / computer and then Ctrl-Alt-Del and kill the process "wcescomm.exe" which will then just leave the phone charging ?

How to Setup Laptop to Use 3G Internet from My Cingular 8525?

Okay, I've searched for several hours so I don't act like a true newbie and ask a dumb question that's been asked a hundred times, but I can't find anything definite on this, so here goes.
I have a new Cingular 8525 and have Cingular's PDA Connect Unlimited data plan. I am in a 3G area. I have an out of the box phone with Windows Mobile 5 with no ROM updates or hacks on it.
I would like to take my laptop in the car and hook my phone to it and have my laptop use the 3G connection that my phone is providing. I know you can setup a modem connection, and I've done that, but it only connects at 115k, which is the fastest setting the modem driver and bluetooth dongle have listed. I would like to be surfing on my laptop at the 3G speeds.
I know there are implications where Cingular may or may not charge me, because I am supposed to possibly have something called the Laptop Connect plan, but lets assume that's not an issue.
Also, whichever way is easiest, I can either use my USB cord to tether my phone and laptop together or use my Bluetooth on my laptop and connect that way.
Anyone have the steps on how to make this work?
Thanks
Did you ever get this working?
I have almost the same situation: a Tom Tom GO 720 device that will talk to the 8525's Handsfree service via Blue Tooth, but says that the phone is not advertising the DUN service.
Got it working
I did two things to make it work.
First, I got Internet Sharing working by using the cabinet called UPRREY-ICS[1].cab that you can find on this forum site. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1564979#24. This will install a link to the Internet Sharing application and show it under Programs.
That made my laptop able to use the GPRS connection. This uses the Bluetooth PAN to tether the laptop and the phone. (but be careful - your plan might not allow large data transfers).
Second, I found two files, also on this forum site, called WM6_DUN.zip (or separately as BT_DUN.cab) and MODEMLINK.zip.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/misc.php?do=showattachments&t=314371
MODEMLINK.zip has a .rgu file in it that I didn't have to mess with .. I just copied the other files to the windows directory and restarted.
Now my TomTom GO 710 finds the handsfree connection, the phonebook/object connection, and the DUN service so it can get on the internet when it needs to.
Thanks to URPREY, The.Drone, and MUN for their previous posts. You rock.
Hi
I have a tomtom gps 720 that I am trying to conntect to a HTC touch diamond, downloaded the software and have placed it into my windows directory etc.. which seems to have helped as it now shows on my tomtom that my phone supports wireless data transfers, the problem I am having now is when putting the setting in the tomtom for the wireless settings my mobile of phone does not appear so I am getting up to 65% through setting it up before I run into a wall....
any further ideas?
I would suggest using the data cable method without bluetooth headaches. Diamond has a ver poor battery, so when ised with USB cable it can stay alive but ultimately your laptop battery is drained
Diamond should have built-in internet connection sharing option. Does the prompt that appears when connecting to PC have that? If not try the HTCtoUSB PopUp cabs taken from Raphel.
Regards,
Carty..
I have no problem connecting the htc diamind or the tomtom go 720 to the PC, I'm just trying to get the wireless data to work so I can send and receive text messages through the TomTom.
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ad hoc wifi vista - wm6 network question

So big thanks for the helmi wm6 ROM which has so *ucking amazing! I have finally installed it on my aging BA m2000! A big thanks to the author of exitbootloader too, without which I would still be in brick mode.
Been playing with wifi networking, and succesfully setup an adhoc wireless connection on vista and used the m2000 with wm6 to connect with no problems. But ummm so does anyone know how I browse, locate, transfer files via the pda from the vista PC. I know my IP address but that's where I am stuck. Do I need an 3rd party app to locate and transfer?
I know there are a few things missing from that ROM such as remote deskop.
BTW wifi to the net seems stable and fully fuctional.
Thanks.
i think that it is not possible as far as i know , i would glade if it exists but i think it's a limitation with the Wifi driver. u can only use wifi for surfing the net . not even ActiveSync ( for security reasons [email protected]?# )
thanks for that. Yer probably right, going keep playing and let brain think about it for a bit see if I can come at it sideways with a sol. I post results if successful
Remote Desktop is available in xplodes zip of cabs. And, yes, you can browse network shares, copy/move files and so on. I have SKTools which can enable this, but you can also do it for free using the PPC version of Total Commander and several other tools.

3G high speed internet on BA via bluetooth?

Hello,
I've been searching the whole forum, but I cannot believe nobody is having the same problem (or idea) as I have:
BA is still great, but nowadays it's lack of 3G internet speed capability (no HSDPA or HSUPA, only gprs.. is becoming more and more quite a problem...
So I thought, wait, I'll connect my BA via bluetooth to another cell phone with 3G, HSDPA, etc. capabilities and basically connect to the internet through that phone, and have high speed internet!
However, I can't figure it out.
First I tried through DUN, but it turns out MS removed DUN from wm 6.1, and from what I can see, Internet sharing is not intended for this task. Or is it?
Can we have high speed internet on BA?
Thanks,
pooksee1802
I couldn't get it to work - but I have just got a 3G USB dongle which I hope will (with a connector cable) provide the old BA with 3G access..
I'm hoping I can configure the BA as if it were going through the USB activesync to the PC and so to the internet.
Anyone tried this yet??
hmm,
judging by the thread's view count it seems the issue is interesting, but unfortunately no answers...
c'mon guys, nobody interested in having high speed internet access on our BA's?
thank you!
in theory the scheme is simple but useless
you need laptop, 3g dongle connected to it and then BA connected to the laptop via cable (bluetooth is slow)and activesync, this is the only working way. This scheme is useless because if you carry the laptop why will do you need the BA?
there is no usb host on the BA so you can not connect the 3g usb dongle to it in any way, thats why you need the laptop
I am using BA with phone as Bluetooth modem towards HSPA network.
Actually, the initial purpose was to share one SIM card between phone and BA, which is more or less permanently installed in my car.
So far, the experience is good. I have 2Mbit HSDPA connection from Nokia E71 to my operator. Bluetooth link has a theoretical maximum speed of 1Mbit/s. In reality this is even slower, but way higher than you can get from EDGE Class 10.
The only problem is that THERE IS NO ROMs released lately, which support Bluetooth dialup. That's it.
ROMs I could get to work with phone as Bluetooth modem are WM5 ROMS and WM6 - "BA ROM CE OS 5.2.19199 (Build 19199.1.0.0 PV DVH) 16MB PP (04)" (using it now).
All later builds do not even try to connect to BT DUN on phone and immediately show "Unable to dial *99#" prompt. No idea what they did to cripple BT DUN in WM 6.1 on BA.
the old dialup was dumped in all later ba rom builds but if it is required so much i can add it in a later build of my roms
Well, I would very appreciate it, really.
Stpark - that's exactly what I was trying to do!
Regarding BA's bluetooth speed, I was aware that it's bt is only ver. 1.1, that is quite slow, but I assumed it would nonetheless still be faster than ordinary gprs. Thanks again for the confirmation.
Stpark, by the way, searching for the "missing bluetooth DUN" I came across a WM developers blog, (http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2007/04/17/why-did-we-remove-bluetooth-dun.aspx) who said that actually they didn't remove it from the ROMs completely, they just put it as an option, but due to user's demand they will return it to the standard package in WM 6.5.
Xplode, thank you for all the roms so far, and I would also appreciate very very much a rom with the DUN included, and I think many of us would as well... Thank you...
To be exactly precise on DUN... There is DUN and there is another DUN.
There is model where your BA acts as DUN host (i.e. you dial from PC using your handheld as modem).
And there is model where your BA acts as DUN client (i.e. you dial from BA using you whetever mobile phone as modem).
So far we are talking about second model, whereas Microsoft is dropping DUN for first. It means that BA as modem role is being replaced by BT PAN. I am not aware about Microsoft being dropped DUN client role in Windows Mobile.
It seem to be just an issue with composition of latest BA ROMs.
That's right, we need the "second" option, that is when the BA acts as a client connecting to a host mobile phone with 3g internet connection.
Be it as it may, because I don't know if MS did drop DUN altogether, or just the first, host mode operation, we need the second one. I'd say badly.
Now I'm hoping for a ROM with DUN in it... (xplode..xplode..
ps. I'm writing this on my BA connected to the net through gprs, speed: 5 kb/s, just like dialup, happytime...
Well i am working on 20931 rom and may publish it these days, but i still have some issues with it when i solve them i will publish it
Well i am working on 20931 rom and may publish it these days, but i still have some issues with it (due to proper translation from chinese) when i solve them i will publish it

net on phone via pc

hi,
does anybody know if we can use internet from pc on the x1 via bluetooth...
i tried finding on google but in vain...can anybody help me regarding this...
ps: i am aware that we can use internet connection via usb cable...what i want to know is that can we use it via bluetooth...and whats the procedure...
thanks in advance...
so many views and no replies???
i really only think it will work the other way around. if you have 3g using the x1 as a bluetooth modem so you can get internet on your pc. unless you have a highspeed internet connection on your pc that isn't already wireless, in which case you can buy a usb wifi adapter for pretty cheap. i dunno if this was any help...
bleh. disregard most of that. i'm sleepy... i only read half. yes it is possible to use your phone as a bluetooth modem though
thanks dude...
the thing is that i hav a really fast pc connection and its cheap...whereas the phone internet service is costly...so i was just wondering if its possible...(net fron pc to phone via bluetooth)
thanks anyways...cheers
Actually there is a way.....
If you establish an bluetooth active-sync connection.
You should be able to surf the net via the bluetooth connection...
But it is still more efficient to go by wi-fi....
Stuart
awesome dude...ill check it rightaway..thanks
doesnt work...detects the serial port..but connection fails..
I know that with Palm OS PDA we used Mocha PPP, perhaps you can give it a try.
Else perhaps an adhoc connection if you want to try Wifi.
yes being connected to activesync with bluetooth give the phone the network access of the pc
been doing it since i had an old wm2003 device
or you can do this if you dont want to use activesync
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=InternetOverBluetoothNetwork
mercury5 said:
doesnt work...detects the serial port..but connection fails..
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Try initial the BT detection from yr PC (or the other way as I don't remember.). The "serial port" will be replaced w/ ActiceSync eventually.
It does work but it depends on your contract
The carrier company can tell if you are browsing through your phone or using internet sharing. I am on O2 and it does not have this, but if I put my T-Mobile sim card in, it works fine. PC's use higher bandwidth and this costs the mobile companies.
If you want to use it, I recommend using the USB lead as bluetooth and 3G connection will abuse your battery.
To use, press start, programs internet sharing. You can only use it if you have activesync on your pc, USB mode is activesync and your mobile provider lets you.
DAN
danjwalker
he want to do the opposite he want to surf using his computers internet not
letting his computer use his phone internet
so i was right the first time. all he needs is a usb wifi adapter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Wi-Fi_USB_Connector
something kind of like that
and you won't even have to use bluetooth after you set it up. just turn on your wifi in the comm manager
Rudegar said:
or you can do this if you dont want to use activesync
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=InternetOverBluetoothNetwork
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This method may not work anymore since PAN client is being removed in recent WM release. You may need to try this to get PAN client working. I posted my working experience over there w/ my Att tilt. But this method require a lot more effort to get it working compare to activesync.
yeah... you guys are backwards on this
figurine said:
yeah... you guys are backwards on this
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why would anyone want to buy additional hardware when it "should" be possible to use the current internet connection on your PC over bluetooth?
artesea said:
why would anyone want to buy additional hardware when it "should" be possible to use the current internet connection on your PC over bluetooth?
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i thought the bluetooth internet sharing only works one way...?
if you go to internet sharing on the phone, you choose bluetooth pan and then a connection that your phone uses to connect to the internet. that's not what he wants. someone correct me if i'm wrong and there's another way to do this bc i'm really not sure.

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