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Oh dear.
After thinking that software was causing an alignment problem (pretty sure MultiIE DID make it worse), I reset the device to factory settings and it still happened. Each day I needed to recalibrate the machine several times, making it unusable.
So it is in the post to HTC Europe for repair and I am without my MDA Compact!
Let's hope they fix it and send it back soon.
I am having the same problem with my O2 mini on which I have to realign the screen every hour or so. I have done many hard resets but there was no improvement. I have tried many ROMs as well. So I suspect its a hardware problem. Any suggestions apart from sending it to the service centre?
I'm having the same problem, I think our only solution is to take our JAMs to a service center
me too... but already pass my warranty period~!!!! da*n :!: some1 can tell me how much to fix this problem?? oh, again,
I think it's better
Maybe a little to early to say but I just got my Magician back from the HTC Europe centre.
They have simply re-flashed the Rom back to 1.12 (May 2005). When I first unpacked it I thught the screen was out of alignment again and rang to complain.
The thing is, I have since set it, played around with it for a few hours and it seems absolutely fine.
Since all my testing previously was with the November ROM (1.13), and the problem started around December time, I wonder if it's a problem with the new November Rom?
I'll keep you posted on what happens over the next few days.
Yes it was too early
Seems to be a problem still. What happens is it loses alignment after being switched off for more than a couple of minutes.
HTC are ringing me back soon.
It's going back again!!
HTC are taking it back for another look.
Observations
I have been living with the problem, and over the period have noticed that sometimes problem is not at all there, and sometimes its pretty bad.
Interestingly, when the problem crops up, if I press the screen a little harder with my finger, the screen just returns to normal alignment. So now I just press the screen instead of doing a screen alignment - takes only 1 second.
yeah~! same exacly here... just pressed it hard then it will back to normal but sometimes not, and still, im not happy with the quality of xda mini... for such an expensive toy, this \things should not happen to too many ppl.
thx,... waiting for your update... and pls let us know the cost...
Yippeee - it's fixed
Just got it back again from HTC Europe.
They have replaced the LCD and I now have perfect screen alignment again. I can even turn it off and the problem doesn't come back!
Very, very happy.
Repair was under warranty so it didn't cost me anything.
HTC have provided very good service to me on this. I am very impressed that they continued to listen and fixed the problem for me.
mini screen misalign
just started experiencing this about a week now, very iritating, and a bright dot appeared on my mini at the lower left edge, its especially obvious wen playing a video with dark or black scenes coz the dot is really bright
i still have warranty til may16 i hope i dnt have to bring it to the service cnter
I got a serious problem with my mda vario here.
sometimes, 7 out of 10 times, when i get a call the screen gets totally corrupted and jumbled like on the picture in the attachment. i can only see black vertical lines on a white screen. in order to make the screen work properly i have to turn the phone off/on (stand-by mode) then.
does anybody know where the problem is?
i have to confess, that the phone slipped out of my hands and fell on the ground 3 times so far.
thanks
well, you say youve dropped it 3 times already? is it possible that something may be loose inside? is there cosmetic damages from dropping?
yes, there are some scratches on it. i don't really think that something is loose or broken, because the screen gets only on icoming calls corrupted.
so i don't think that it is due to a loose contact or something like that...
I have exactly the same problem. I personally think it is unlikely that dropping the phone has caused it as it corrects when you cycle the power button. Any help on this from other forum member would be much appreciated.
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I have exactly the same problem. I personally think it is unlikely that dropping the phone has caused it as it corrects when you cycle the power button. Any help on this from other forum member would be much appreciated.
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Any resoluation this? I have the exact same problem!!
Oh dear ... somethings in the air...
mine's got it also. first time i saw it was a couple of days ago. only happens with the alarm clock in the morning :?
My phone is crap like hell... gotta hard reset and reconfig the damn thing. acting up lately...
(ps... AFAIK i barely dropped the phone... maybe 1 or 2 times. nothing more)
I have the same problem
I have read the service manual of wizard and said:
Unusual Vertical / Horizontal lines or partial display
(1) Check the connection of LCM FPC whether is properly connected. (Is a conector between motherboard and LCD)
(2) Try with another LCM. (LCM=LCD Screen)
(3) Try with another Main Board.
(4) Replace LCM if necessary
(5) Replace Main Board if necessary.
(6) Once the defective part has been identified, verify it again with the defective part whether the
symptom could be duplicated
Any sugestion?
Okay..
so far, i have installed Molski 2.26 rom (30meg free version) and upgrade the radio rom form 2.25 to 2.47.
I have not had another occurance of this so far.
Maybe a fluke.
Screen fixes when pressure applied to bottom of the screen
Guys,
I now have to keep my finger pressed hard against the bottom of the lcd unit to get the screen to display to work properly. it is under warranty with Imate but they want me to send it to Abu Dhabi for repair. I'm in Canada and concerned that I may not get it back.
So has anybody else identified this as being a loose connection rather that a real hard fault. Also has anybody fixed their unit by dismantling and reseating the connections.
Finally has anybody used the Imate repair service and was it timely & reliable?
Any advice would be appreciated.
Mick
This is a real hard fault.. had it with my mini s, took it into the shop, it was away 2 weeks... and in the end they gave me a replacement!!
I agree - took it completely apart and cleaned everything ....
And still have the issue.
Serves me right for buying something in Middlesbrough I suppose
It must be a hard fault with the LCD assembly. Will have to see how Dixons handles an overseas repair.
Take care & thx,
Mick
I had the same problem, in the end i took it into my local t-mob shop to have it repaired, they ended up sending me a new one.
Well, I've exactly the same problem since the past two-three weeks, it also occurs only in the morning. I'm living in the Netherlands and this is happening since it's rather cold over here, especially in the morning (3-4 degree Celcius). Since my bedroom window is open during the night, it gets rather cold in my room.
During the rest of the day it is +8 degree Celcius, and the phone works flawless. Maybe this problem has something to do with the Temperature?
Temperature
Bebob - don't thin so as I have had this problem for a number of months and the temp here in the summer is high (30+ degrees C)
It looks to be a bad connection type issue and may be a bad screen cable. It makes sense though that the issue is at the bottom of the screen cos this is where we press the select buttons all of the time.
Pls keep me posted on how you do. mine is going to a local repair shop (on my dime) tomorrow to see if they can fix it.
If not can any of you guys recomend a new unit that could be considered an upgrade to the KJAM ?
Many thanks
Mick
suggestions needed
friends, i have o2 mini s and got the same problem with screen for the last 3 weeks....
can anyone tell me that will the problem aggravate or else will i be able to use my cell properly for few months...
and also what will be the approx cost of repair..
all suggestions will be warmly appreciated...
It's happened to me as well. I have lived with that for one month now. It is happening, when I touch the cursor keys or when touch the lower part of the display. I tried "shaking/hitting" the xda and it looks better, so I assume it is a faulty connection cable.
I have active Cleartype and no more vertical lines for the past 2 days.
I seems to be a problem when background is white and leters are black.
Regards
similar problem
i dropped the phone (T-Mobile MDA Vario) and now when i turn it on the screen is fine for 5-30 seconds but then it scrambles, but works again if i smack the bottom of the phone on my hand!
t-mobile staff told me there are sensors to identify if it has been dropped. I'm suspicious that it could even be programmed to go "faulty" once it is dropped as the screen is fine for a limited time so it obviously works somewhat. do you know if this is the case? or what's happened? also is it a simple thing i could do myself? i didn't take out insurance so that's why i haven't just claimed off that as i'm really broke
Any help is appreciated
Regards,
Steve
whiteish screen / over temperature
hi,
I have a problem smilar at qtek 9100. I had upgade to my ppc wm5 to wm6 around 3 week ago and overclocked to 221 mhz with batery status today plug-in . 2 days ago Screen became whiteish (almost no contrast or over gamma) and working temperature is around 30c. I tried to re-flash with many kind roms but noting chaged.
Is there anybody has these kind of experice. If I can not solve. I am planing to buy new LCD ( I am not sure new LCD will solve the problem)
Thanks
Same problem here. Dropped it ONE time and the screen went crazy. Sent it to my t-mob shop and they got it repaired. They said in the report that they changed the "flex". Dunno if this helps.
I'm really pissed off... being an medical intern I really need my Vario II (allready gave away my Vario I) and now I'm experiencing the screen alignment problems as described in previous versions! I was told these problems were solved and now have to re-align my screen about every time I turn on my phone.
Is anybody else experiencing this problem?
anyone who told that this is solved is a joker....
even the HT635XXX is having problem... you can return it back, and wait or go to another unit.
It's an expensive bet on a gamble
Today I received my repaired tytn back. SN HT627.
According to the serviceburo it should now be repaired according to the instruction of HTC.
parts used:
1x Gasket, Keypad.Apache For.
1x MYLAR,LCM CONN, BREEZE FOR
So, hopefully this really solved the problem.
Regards,
Piet
let us know.... if fixed.. it means it's a HW issue.. but dont know why even the latest batch still suffers on this ... :evil:
Screen alignment problem
Those of us with this pesky problem are just dying to hear how "pietg" is getting along after the mylar film Liquid Crystal Monitor connection has been replaced. Not quite sure why they changed the keyboard gasket.
Not that we want to hassle "pietg" but if this is the cure some of us will be straight in there with the tools for another look!!Best give it a few days as the problem sometimes vanishes for lengthy periods anyway - especially I've noticed after you've done a reassembly. (just as you think it's cured it's back)
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Those of us with this pesky problem are just dying to hear how "pietg" is getting along after the mylar film Liquid Crystal Monitor connection has been replaced. Not quite sure why they changed the keyboard gasket.
Not that we want to hassle "pietg" but if this is the cure some of us will be straight in there with the tools for another look!!Best give it a few days as the problem sometimes vanishes for lengthy periods anyway - especially I've noticed after you've done a reassembly. (just as you think it's cured it's back)
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Will give it a week before judging the repair.
Finally I will be able to start using this thing. A lot to learn, also a lot of usage. So if the problem returns it should be back in one week.
(By the way, the first time to problems occured after I started carring hte phone in my pockets. And the phone came under "pressure".
I wonder when other users are getting back there repaired Tytn, the same parts are replaced.
To be continued ......
hereby an update.
Untill totday still no problems anymore.
So for me the problems are solved.
Piet
Alignment
pietg said:
hereby an update.
Untill totday still no problems anymore.
So for me the problems are solved.
Piet
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Pietg
Good news, partly based on your earlier post on parts replaced, I did my own fix which is also still working well.
Just ocassioally when drawing in "notes" I get spikey lines i.e. when drawing a straight line it actually draws a line with v shaped peaks or sometimes a line like a sinusoidal wave. It always settles down within a minute or so, no need to realign. Once when it happened I noticed the WiFi was reconnecting after a broken connection. This spikey line issue is not a big prblem and I think is unrelated to the usual screen alignment issues. I got the feeling it was caused by power surges or leakage currents when the device was performing power hungry tasks? I saw a LCM manufacturers site that said reistance based LCMs are highly suceptable to both power fluctuations and leakage current interferance.
Anyway your post pretty much confirms the physical cause of most folks general alignment problems.
Mike
Hi, going through the emails on this list was indeed very useful. I bought an iMate JASJAM in January 2007 and it started giving me a weird problem with the screen.
The phone was working perfectly OK till Mid Feb when I started noticing that any application I opened (including phone or contacts) got closed automatically within a second. I observed carefully and saw that the 'X' on the top left corner of the screen was probably getting clicked on its own. I suspected it is most probably a screen problem and took it to the iMate service center. They promptly replaced the screen in 2 days.
It worked fine for 15 days before I am seeing the problem again. Could someone help me please. I am seriously dependent on email through my phone for my work. Would appreciate any sort of guidance, even if it seems obvious.
My JASJAM is 647XX s/n based
Thanks a ton,
Aditya Deshoande
If indeed the X is getting phantom taps, this is not a screen problem as such. In other words, you could replace the screen time and again and it would recur. The issue is that the screen gets pressre/pressed by the bezel around the screen. The screen is rather stupidly sensitive to touches even below the bezel. Pressure can arise from a slight twist in bezel, from heat expansion and from dust trapped between bezel and screen. You might try the "business card solution" - though it is not guaranteed.
I would also take a backup and do a hard reset. Try the problem apps without restoring the backup. This will identify whether it's software or the SA related problem.
f the problem is still there, I would demand a replacement not a fix, because if something is out of line it's not going to be fixed by swapping screens.
Mike
Thank you
Mike,
Thank you for posting a reply so quickly. I suspected it is not just a screen alignment issue the moment it appeared again. None of the fixes mentioned for the SA issue work. I just wanted to check if anyone has any suggestions to try something. There are no applications installed by me and I have tried hard reset. In fact the crosshair in the align screen application keeps moving without me touching the screen.
The problem is that this problem makes the phone useless because I cannot open the dialer. We need to be extremely careful of what iMate and HTC seem to be shipping out. This is a damn expensive phone to have such problems.
I will request for a replacement but would not be surprised if I am refused and told that it will be repaired since it is warranty.
Let us see if I need to drag them to consumer forum. I will, if the need arises.
Regards
Adi
Good luck Adi - I hope it works out. Yes that jumping around of the cross hairs does prove there is pressure being put on somewhere. Indeed HTC did appear to have largely resolved the SA and SA related problems - but I'm still seeing quite a few.
Cheers
Mike
Heats up during charging
Hi Mike,
Perhaps the problem is compounded by the fact that it really heats up if you charge the phone while it is still in the cover. The one with a belt clip that comes in the box
My screen does not respond to any taps anymore. Which in a way is good because I am at least able to call as well as send/receive emails.
Regards
Adi
Same problem here!
So my Hermes, which just got replaced by Cingular after the "red light..not charging problem" (Thanks for the pointers on that Mike!). But my new unit is also having phantom clicks on the x or in landscape the Start menu kept getting clicks. And I too got the moving crosshairs during screen alignment setup. Now the whole screen is whacked, not repsonding to any clicks.
Cingular are sending out another unit. I love my hermes, but seriously getting worried about the reliability of these units. I really can;t be without my unti working for too long, I'm stcuk having to go back to my SE P900 (with a flaky battery) or my SE S700 which sux.
It is a worry and very frustrating. However, when you get a good one it is well worth it. A hassle I know, but some folks here say they've been through 3/4 before being happy. This is the secret I think, put up with no physical defect and get an immediate replacement. Use a cheap mobile while you wait for the replacement. Most of the 'pain' comes from trying this and that and the other to get the device working and perhaps 6 out of ten times you fail. Use the warranty without hesitation. There ARE good ones out there!
My thought for today!!
Mike
Hello!I got a HTC elf for about 2 months and i got some problems with him for about some time it freezes from sudent without doing anything and sometimes the power goes off and doesn`t want to turn on anymore,i do not know what to do with him now.Please help me
PS: The phone is bought second-hand in case it helps but this happens only for about 2 weeks
man HTC touch elf phones are quiet delicate also (from its back side).
i believe you might have fallen it somewhere hence its back side of the phone has become loose so hence it would loosen up the battery...every tym you pressure at its back side I to had a similar enigma, i just tighten the back part and later it worked properly..
Anyone can give me some more details about this kind of problem and solution to this please maybe a tutorial with pictures?
did u drop your phone?? i used to drop my phone alot aswel and so had the problems of turning off time snd again too! probably th battery has loosen abit..try keepin a thin paper/cover over th batt/under the batt cover to make it fit tight! about the freezing problems i didnt have any..might b bcoz ur phone is old(2nd hand) - or having inner circuit problems maybe!
It felt for about 2 times but was with the housing on it and i do not think it had suffered anything but i will try tomorrow to put something on the back cover of the battery to see if it has any results.And about the problem with freezeing i disasambled the mainboard and made it with contact spray so i don`t think it does that because it isn`t make a good contact something or things like this,and the problem is that it does power on very hard after the freezing and sometimes it just goes off from sudent and do not want to power on any more.The phone is SH but when i bought it it didn`t had any of this problems
Hello again!I have tried your ideea with putting something betwean the battery and the back cover but it steel freezes do not know what to do with it anymore!please help me solve this problem!!!(
probably the plastic piece will solve ur problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=477120
I allready tried this and for a moment i thought the problem was solved but after abot 3h the device was power off but after yesterday (cuz sunday i disasambled the device) i didn`t happened anymore but today the device was low battery and i do not know why cuz yesterday morning i took him from the charge..very bizzar isn`t it?:-?
Mine started to have the same problem, I have it for two years and no problems until now. I cared about it very well, so no fall-downs or scratches. I updated everything in SW I could but it doesnt solve the problem. I also replaced the battery, no effect. I think it will be electronic issue. Wish someone could help us...
Hi,
I think I had the same problem:
- the phone froze in standby (sometimes after 30min, sometimes after more than 5 hours).
- if standby is disabled it NEVER froze (but i had to charge battery one a day).
flashing was no solution (tried blue elves, onyx and tess).
i shipped it to htc-repair-center three times, but they could not repair my device (altough they tried and shipped it back to me DEFECTIVE).
Now I have a replacement Elfin which works perfectly.
So nobody has a solution for this?
Has anyone found a solution for this cuz i tried the plastic thing but nothing seems to solve the problem i disasambled the elf and put contacts spray wd40 on it and heated but nothing the phone still goes off and freezes i still use the plastic things over the processor but i think that it does this because the processor is overheated and thats why it freez and turn off and do not whant to turn on maybe someone had tested to put a piece of aluminium in stead of the plastic thing to cool the processor?
I had the Standby of Death SOD this is when the phone fails to come out of standby with a power button press. This issue only affects some people on some networks. I'm not sure if its a network problem or a software problem but as only a minority of people have it, I suspect its mainly a network problem there is a software solution.
The solution is to change the phone settings band option from auto 3G/2G to either 3G Only (WCDMA + UTMS 2100 in Europe) or 2G Only (GSM + AUTO) depending on your requirements.
Also read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540943&highlight=standby&page=2 where the resolution was to get a new SIM.
Obviously this only solves the problem when the crash is because of the sim and/or settings which impact the sim. To rule out a software cause its best to start with a hard reset.