hello
when i try to take a photo (for 1024x768 and 1600x1200 resolutions)
i cannot zoom in, but i can zoom in for lower resolutions
any atom exec owners with the same thing?
or is it a bug in my phone?
thx
no atom exec owners in this forum??
It's a "feature", not a bug
zecoj said:
It's a "feature", not a bug
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well usually feature is a good thing
but un this case not able to zoom at 2.0 mp resolution
is not a good thin
The only reason you can not zoom is that the lower res photos are a 'fake zoom' (digital zoom)
not really a zoom
coldfire said:
well usually feature is a good thing
but un this case not able to zoom at 2.0 mp resolution
is not a good thin
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thats true, when You use zoom what really happens is that the software is simulating zoom by showing a smaller part of the 2MP picture. I recomend to take photos at VGA resolution if You would like to experiment with ¨zoom¨
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Has any1 tried to increase (hack/regedit/hexedit, or thirdparty app, homebrew app, etc.) the resolution of video capture. With an Overclocked CPU what do y'all think is the highest resolution captured possible w/ this 2M camera. 1280x720p? 1920x1080i/p?. I know there are HD camcorders out there w/ less CPU power but dedicated chips for video encoding. How difficult to write such an app? Any tips to get started? Much thanks.
It's a 2mp camera so the max resolution is 1600x1200 if you go past that you start to get ripping/tearing and the images look ugly (I believe). It would be nice if the camera recorded in a higher quality/resolution I just don't know if that's possible with the hardware.
kraftey said:
It's a 2mp camera so the max resolution is 1600x1200 if you go past that you start to get ripping/tearing and the images look ugly (I believe). It would be nice if the camera recorded in a higher quality/resolution I just don't know if that's possible with the hardware.
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I don't have the phone yet. But I believe that the current App only allows a much lower res than 1600x1200 for video capturing, such as 640x480. Still image is possible up to 1600x1200. Pls chime in current owners. Thanks.
For sure this would be a great improvement, but as you all know PPC camera's are complete ****. I doubt that anything like this is possible but I would love for someone to prove me wrong.
wickedwings said:
I don't have the phone yet. But I believe that the current App only allows a much lower res than 1600x1200 for video capturing, such as 640x480. Still image is possible up to 1600x1200. Pls chime in current owners. Thanks.
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Heh the standard camera app won't let you get past 176x144 in movie mode. You might be able to squeeze a jolty 320x240 clip out of your phone when using a third party app such as CoolCamera and overclocking the crap out of your chip, but 640x480 is off limits by far. The camera on these things is slow and not nearly as sophisticated as a camcorder. You'll have to wait another few years
Try to use Ateksoft "Cool caera" or Webcamera plus.
You can get ebtter pics and videos with Coolcamera.....
Up to 640x480 and more.
But Highdefinition is something else
http://ateksoft.com/
Does anyone know how to enhance the video capture for the Shadow (Juno)? My last phone was the Samsung T 809 which had a 1.3 megapixel camera and could capture crystal clear video at 30 fps at 320x240 and another higher setting. It was one of the first slider phones if not THE first. The Shadow (Juno) has a 2 megapixel camera but for some reason is restricted to a low resolution for video capture. I'm sure it has the potential to capture video as good if not better then the Samsung T 809 if someone only knew how to by pass the restricted resolution. Any ideas?
the shadow has a poor quality 2.0 MP camera.
even 2.0 MP pictures look like crap
shadowmike said:
the shadow has a poor quality 2.0 MP camera.
even 2.0 MP pictures look like crap
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yes 2.0 mp does look like crap with the shadow...
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i got a camera related question, just wondering why portrait mode doesn't work on 6.1? im really hating landscape mode
Hey there
I got my Desire HD now for 2 days, and I love it.
The recording of videos is beautiful, but I am dissapointed about one thing.
When you record in 480x800 resolution, you can use a very nice zoombar, and it works great.
But when I want to record in HD with 720p, I cannot zoom anymore...
Why is this..., and is there maybe a way to enable the zoom with 720p?
Sorry but you clearly dont understand zoom, the maximum definition of the camera is 720p, without an optical zoom i.e. a big lens there is no way to zoom in and maintain 720p.
Software zoom works by enlarging the picture - using less definition. So there will never be able to do this while maintaining 720p.
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Sorry but you clearly dont understand zoom, the maximum definition of the camera is 720p, without an optical zoom i.e. a big lens there is no way to zoom in and maintain 720p.
Software zoom works by enlarging the picture - using less definition. So there will never be able to do this while maintaining 720p.
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I knew this, but why is it not possible to enlage the picture with 720p?
because it would be misleading?
If you had a setting for 720p, and say you zoomed in by just 25% your almost back to Standard definition.
so why not just film in normal definition in the first place?
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because it would be misleading?
If you had a setting for 720p, and say you zoomed in by just 25% your almost back to Standard definition.
so why not just film in normal definition in the first place?
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So what... if I film with normal definition and use the zoom, the quality will drop either.
When I film in 720, it has a bigger resolution, I would like to zoom in a bigger resolution, but yea... maybe HTC does not have enough experience with cameras yet (so far I heard).
Anyways, I like the camera either, but I'm just dissapointed that I'm not able to zoom in 720p mode.
If you film at normal definition (under 720p), you will have sharper digital zoom, because the camera is more sensitive and has lot pixels left "to zoom with". It is hard to explain, but trust me, zooming at normal definition is possible without losing so much quality.
jkoljo said:
If you film at normal definition (under 720p), you will have sharper digital zoom, because the camera is more sensitive and has lot pixels left "to zoom with". It is hard to explain, but trust me, zooming at normal definition is possible without losing so much quality.
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You might be right there!
Because I did a test with the camera, like zooming, and focusing, and the quality doesn't drop that much when zooming.
Check out my camera test here
Yeah, the zooming should be really good at least when using up to mid range zoom
joshoon said:
So what... if I film with normal definition and use the zoom, the quality will drop either.
When I film in 720, it has a bigger resolution, I would like to zoom in a bigger resolution, but yea... maybe HTC does not have enough experience with cameras yet (so far I heard).
Anyways, I like the camera either, but I'm just dissapointed that I'm not able to zoom in 720p mode.
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Thats where we need clarrification from HTC..
How do you know that when you zoom in standard resolution the it doesn't do it by using the full resolution and zooming in on that part, thus maintaing the full 480p and that section you have zoomed in on?
I would sugest this is the case - have you tried it?
jkoljo said:
If you film at normal definition (under 720p), you will have sharper digital zoom, because the camera is more sensitive and has lot pixels left "to zoom with". It is hard to explain, but trust me, zooming at normal definition is possible without losing so much quality.
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beat me to it...
MC_BLADE said:
Thats where we need clarrification from HTC..
How do you know that when you zoom in standard resolution the it doesn't do it by using the full resolution and zooming in on that part, thus maintaing the full 480p and that section you have zoomed in on?
I would sugest this is the case - have you tried it?
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Can you reply in normal English pls? English is not my mainlanguage, but the way you type does it make even harder for me.
Anyways, I don't know if I understand it right, but you try to tell me that I don't know that if I zoom in with a standard resolution that it uses its full resolution?
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Can you reply in normal English pls? English is not my mainlanguage, but the way you type does it make even harder for me.
Anyways, I don't know if I understand it right, but you try to tell me that I don't know that if I zoom in with a standard resolution that it uses its full resolution?
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I was trying to put it in simplistic terms... sorry
imagine if you had 720 lines, you can move yourself so close you can only see 480.
Well this works in reverse if you only want 480 lines and you zoom in, in effect your selecting the middle 480 lines of the total 720. so you should not see any loss in quality, unless you are really zooming all the way in.
any better?
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I was trying to put it in simplistic terms... sorry
imagine if you had 720 lines, you can move yourself so close you can only see 480.
Well this works in reverse if you only want 480 lines and you zoom in, in effect your selecting the middle 480 lines of the total 720. so you should not see any loss in quality, unless you are really zooming all the way in.
any better?
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Yea but that is what I said before, the quality doesn't drop that much when you zoom in, thats very noticeable in my testing video.
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You might be right there!
Because I did a test with the camera, like zooming, and focusing, and the quality doesn't drop that much when zooming.
Check out my camera test here
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jesus the camera on these are terrible
who knows said:
jesus the camera on these are terrible
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No it's quite nice! but in darkness it become snowy.
Is it me or the quality of photos taken in Android is a lot worse than the ones taken in WM?
any hint/tip/advise on this?
brunoavrocha said:
Is it me or the quality of photos taken in Android is a lot worse than the ones taken in WM?
any hint/tip/advise on this?
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I think the same. It's as the white balance doesnt' work fine, isn't it?
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they are worse! thats just one thing!
the resolution of the android photo capture is 2MP (1600x1200) instead of the real 5MP (2560x1920). ant the light exposure whith the LED's in the dark is sometimes to bright... (white-balance)
(on MDJ's ROM's not sure about the other ones..)
the video recording is pretty good in image way: WVGA (800x480), but the sound is [email protected]!
did some re-search, with VLC.
The audio.
codec: samr
samplespeed: 8000hz
bits per sample: 16 @ 128kb/s (windows says 13kb/s)
Tje video.
codec: mp4v
sample rate:15fps to 30fps (varies from light and dark environment)
IannEefje said:
Hi
they are worse! thats just one thing!
the resolution of the android photo capture is 2MP (1600x1200) instead of the real 5MP (2560x1920). ant the light exposure whith the LED's in the dark is sometimes to bright... (white-balance)
(on MDJ's ROM's not sure about the other ones..)
the video recording is pretty good in image way: WVGA (800x480), but the sound is [email protected]!
did some re-search, with VLC.
The audio.
codec: samr
samplespeed: 8000hz
bits per sample: 16 @ 128kb/s (windows says 13kb/s)
Tje video.
codec: mp4v
sample rate:15fps to 30fps (varies from light and dark environment)
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afaik the current camera apps have real 5mp.
a foto taken by my cam shows a resolution of 2592*1944 thats ~5mp.
but the white-balance with led flash is really a problem
I've just taken some photos and when I saw it on the pc, it looked terrible. My SE W610i (2mpx) takes a lot better photos...
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Yes there is no arguring. Android photos suck compared to those in WM! I have tried to take photos with wm and android at the same time...
I noticed some diference. Forcing widescreen photo's does'nt matchup with the widescreen photo's taken in windows mobile. But nonetheless, i dont care. I just want a working camera on Desire HD build!!!! And I can't find a clue how far the developing is
zoom
how do you zoom in with htc camera, never figured that out
zap1 said:
afaik the current camera apps have real 5mp.
a foto taken by my cam shows a resolution of 2592*1944 thats ~5mp.
but the white-balance with led flash is really a problem
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yes indeed it says 5MP but when you put it on your pc you will see its not 5MP!
and 2592x1944 is wide screen 5MP and strictly seen not a true 5MP
please check the photo's on your pc!
if is is a real 5MP please thel me what ROM u are using
I've actually noticed BETTER quality in Android than in WM. I made a post about it a while ago, but can't be arsed to find it now. The white balance is actually more realistic under Android.
dapoharoun said:
how do you zoom in with htc camera, never figured that out
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the zoom isn't available for now... u just have to be patient
the are Cam. apps at the market the supports zoom....
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I've actually noticed BETTER quality in Android than in WM. I made a post about it a while ago, but can't be arsed to find it now. The white balance is actually more realistic under Android.
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I'd have to agree, all my android pics look so much clearer and detailed compared to the same objects/scenerys under winmo
I agree... photos taken with winmo always turnout better for me. But I can't complain ... atleast we can take photos with android. Most andrid ports for winmo phones can't use camera at all. We have a very good port for our hd2s.... but its still a port.
Alot of people seem to expect android to work as well as a native android phone. Amazingly our android port does function better than a native android phone with a stock rom in some cases.... but when you mod, root and put custom roms on a native android phone with similar specs, it definitely outperforms our ported android.
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Hello, I was reading a Galaxy Note 4 review and came across 2x lossless zooming for 30fps 1080p video recording and wondered why we don't have it.
Lossless zooming is great as it preserves detail in zoomed situations while keeping the file size big, unlike 4k recording which would consume lots of storage to record then zoom afterwards
As our phone supports 4k recording, doesn't the G2 have the ability to have lossless zooming capability?
If so, can someone tell me if there is there an app that enables us to do this, or someone, perhaps xdabbeb, can enable it for us??
Thanks
sjk971005 said:
Hello, I was reading a Galaxy Note 4 review and came across 2x lossless zooming for 30fps 1080p video recording and wondered why we don't have it.
Lossless zooming is great as it preserves detail in zoomed situations while keeping the file size big, unlike 4k recording which would consume lots of storage to record then zoom afterwards
As our phone supports 4k recording, doesn't the G2 have the ability to have lossless zooming capability?
If so, can someone tell me if there is there an app that enables us to do this, or someone, perhaps xdabbeb, can enable it for us??
Thanks
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Lossless zoom is achieved when u have an optical lens movment.
I dont believe any of these phones have optical zoom.
You can't "enable" optical zoom. It literally means that the lesnses need to move back and forth. Like in cameras. You see the lens moving and adjusting to the zoom.
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Lossless zoom is achieved when u have an optical lens movment.
I dont believe any of these phones have optical zoom.
You can't "enable" optical zoom. It literally means that the lesnses need to move back and forth. Like in cameras. You see the lens moving and adjusting to the zoom.
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I thought it was a software thing on mobile phones where they increased video resolution and cropped it to show the area you are zooming in on so that the zoomed part remains 1080p??
For example, a quarter of a 4k video would be a 'zoomed in' 1080p one
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I thought it was a software thing on mobile phones where they increased video resolution and cropped it to show the area you are zooming in on so that the zoomed part remains 1080p??
For example, a quarter of a 4k video would be a 'zoomed in' 1080p one
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I guess.. It can't preserve detail so it has to be cropped.
It's like zooming into a picture in photoshop.
We have digital zoom only. Digital zoom scales an area up to "zoom" in. It blows up pictures making them look nasty.
This is a great question and I think the prior replies have missed the concept. Yes, our camera is like 8 or 12 megapixels, but 1080p HD video is like only 2 megapixels. So when we record video on our 8 megapixel sensors, the sensor "line-skips" to resolve only a 2 megapixel (1080p) image. When we zoom in, digitally, it keeps the same "line-skipping" design as non-zoomed. This results in a lower-than-HD resolution. It would be VERY SMART to adjust the line-skipping design, or not line-skip at all, on a digital zoom, thus still using 2 megapixels worth of photo sites to capture the "zoomed" image. This is the same concept as "sensor windowing" used on RED cameras when changing the resolution. I'm surprised this is not the new/standard way to implement digital zooming on ALL modern smartphones to preserve details and resolution when digitally zooming, because of course there is no optical zoom option.
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Enter The Nexus said:
We have digital zoom only. Digital zoom scales an area up to "zoom" in. It blows up pictures making them look nasty.
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I am quite sure the note 4 does not have optical zooming. This is the reason it made me think and 'come up' with this idea.
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This is a great question and I think the prior replies have missed the concept. Yes, our camera is like 8 or 12 megapixels, but 1080p HD video is like only 2 megapixels. So when we record video on our 8 megapixel sensors, the sensor "line-skips" to resolve only a 2 megapixel (1080p) image. When we zoom in, digitally, it keeps the same "line-skipping" design as non-zoomed. This results in a lower-than-HD resolution. It would be VERY SMART to adjust the line-skipping design, or not line-skip at all, on a digital zoom, thus still using 2 megapixels worth of photo sites to capture the "zoomed" image. This is the same concept as "sensor windowing" used on RED cameras when changing the resolution. I'm surprised this is not the new/standard way to implement digital zooming on ALL modern smartphones to preserve details and resolution when digitally zooming, because of course there is no optical zoom option.
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I do not know much of cameras so I do not fully understand what you(Jackdup) are saying, but I think you know what I mean
Just wondering, do you know of any apps that can do this, or know how this works? Maybe you can explain it to a developer to implement it in our devices
Thanks