I have searched the forum for a tweak that can automatically disconnect the UMTS data after being idle for X minutes but do not see it. I only see a tweak to keep it alive. I want the opposite. Any help would be appreciated.
thanks
On most roms all you have to do is press and hold the hang up button to disconnect the data by yourself.
S.K.
silent_killa said:
On most roms all you have to do is press and hold the hang up button to disconnect the data by yourself.
S.K.
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I know that. But that is manual and tedious.
Some of my apps automatically open the data connection, so I want a way to automatically close it after it's done.
I am interested as well if someone knows of a tweak for it... When I hit the 3G area near my home, my battery goes pretty quick. On EDGE my battery life is awesome.
wimpy said:
I have searched the forum for a tweak that can automatically disconnect the UMTS data after being idle for X minutes but do not see it. I only see a tweak to keep it alive. I want the opposite. Any help would be appreciated.
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There's a little program which does exactly this for GPRS. I haven't tried, but I would assume it also works for UMTS. To achieve this functionality, it just sets the value of the registry key HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\CacheTimer to the idle time (in seconds) after which GPRS (and hopefully UMTS) will get disconnected.
Cheers
Daniel
tadzio said:
There's a little program which does exactly this for GPRS. I haven't tried, but I would assume it also works for UMTS. To achieve this functionality, it just sets the value of the registry key HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\CacheTimer to the idle time (in seconds) after which GPRS (and hopefully UMTS) will get disconnected.
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Daniel
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Nope, just tried that in my registry and it still doesn't disconnect.
GB-SOFT GPRS & Audio Tweak
i am running this on my universal for that purpose and it works on umts in tokyo. i haven't tried it on my hermes though as i want to keep the connection always on for my push email, but i think it should work on hermes as well. give it a shot, it's free.
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
Here's something that may or may not be useful to some. I used to think that for ease of access to webpages I would have GPRS always set to on. I did this using Tweaks2k2 under phone tricks. But this was a pest as when I wanted to use wifi the GPRS kept trying to take over.
I went back to Tweaks2k2 and unchecked GPRS always on. Now when I'm not using wifi and I go to a webpage the GPRS connects nicely but the second it's downloaded the page it instantly disconnects itself and stays off - ideal for me.
Before, enabling the continuous connection and then disabling it using Tweaks2k2, if I connected to GPRS it would stay connected until I manually turned it off again, but now it does it automatically and without delay. (I'm assuming it was THIS that has created my, as and when needed GPRS connection). Certainly saves having to set idle times etc to get it to auto shut off.
Mike
Try PhoneAlarm
It has an option to do exactly this. I use it to disconnect after 2 mins and activesync to run every 30 mins and it has improved my battery life immensely.
Rob
I think it can help you. It's very usefull and saves the battery.
It's a little C program that checks the gprs/umts connections every 2 minutes. althought the pda could be suspended the program checks the connections every two minutes. If there isnt data flow then the connection is closes.
It has 4 buttons.
DISABLE: It disables the checks. So if you are surfing the web and you dont want the program closes the connection push this button.
ENABLE: Enable the checks again.
OK: Closes de window (the program continues activated. You can open the window again tapping the little blue icon in the botton).
CLOSE: Close the program.
I recomment the put it in ROM and you should create a shortcut and put it in \windows\startup directory.
Yip, another good one to try. Thanks
Mike
mikechannon said:
Here's something that may or may not be useful to some. I used to think that for ease of access to webpages I would have GPRS always set to on. I did this using Tweaks2k2 under phone tricks. But this was a pest as when I wanted to use wifi the GPRS kept trying to take over.
I went back to Tweaks2k2 and unchecked GPRS always on. Now when I'm not using wifi and I go to a webpage the GPRS connects nicely but the second it's downloaded the page it instantly disconnects itself and stays off - ideal for me.
Before, enabling the continuous connection and then disabling it using Tweaks2k2, if I connected to GPRS it would stay connected until I manually turned it off again, but now it does it automatically and without delay. (I'm assuming it was THIS that has created my, as and when needed GPRS connection). Certainly saves having to set idle times etc to get it to auto shut off.
Mike
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Can you tell me what registry setting that modifies? I would like to have UMTS disconnect after it's done also. But do not want to install too many apps.
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Can you tell me what registry setting that modifies? I would like to have UMTS disconnect after it's done also. But do not want to install too many apps.
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Sorry don't know answer - maybe somebody does??
Mike
It doesnt modify any registry setting. It is a program checking the state of the ras connections each 2 minutes........ Later i will post the source code. Now i have to go.....
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It doesnt modify any registry setting. It is a program checking the state of the ras connections each 2 minutes........ Later i will post the source code. Now i have to go.....
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I'm sure you are right but ever since I used Tweaks2k2 and turned the GPRS setting off the always on connection it disconnects from GPRS the second the page is downloaded. There is no wait for a period up to 2 minutes. As soon as I tap on another link to another webpage it fires up GPRS again followed by an instantaneous disconnect after page downloaded. Of course if it's caching the page the period of time it takes to display the page might be getting on for two minutes. However many pages take far less time than that - e.g. text only pages and I'm not aware of any delay in the GPRS disconnecting but I'll test this tonight.
Bottom line is this works for me, but as there seem to be, according to posts above, lots of applications to power the GPRS on and off (and stay off until it's needed), then presumably we are all happy now??
Mike
harryk1372 said:
i am running this on my universal for that purpose and it works on umts in tokyo. i haven't tried it on my hermes though as i want to keep the connection always on for my push email, but i think it should work on hermes as well. give it a shot, it's free.
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
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Do you know which registry key it modifies? I rather manually edit the registry setting then install this program for that sole purpose.
thanks
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Do you know which registry key it modifies? I rather manually edit the registry setting then install this program for that sole purpose.
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That is the program I linked to in the first post, and it uses the registry key I mentioned.
Just to double-check - after you made the change to the registry, did you shut down (keep power key pressed until a dialog box pops up - do not just soft-reset!) and reboot your TyTN?
Also, make sure GPRS Always-On is off: check that "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A3 8-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\Connections\<your GPRS connection name>\AlwaysOn" is set to 0.
Cheers
Daniel
tadzio said:
That is the program I linked to in the first post, and it uses the registry key I mentioned.
Just to double-check - after you made the change to the registry, did you shut down (keep power key pressed until a dialog box pops up - do not just soft-reset!) and reboot your TyTN?
Also, make sure GPRS Always-On is off: check that "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A3 8-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\Connections\<your GPRS connection name>\AlwaysOn" is set to 0.
Cheers
Daniel
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All my other registry edits only require a soft reboot.
Btw, my AlwaysOn for that key is defaulted to 0 anyways. So just this registry setting alone does not disconnect my data when idle.
A side note, I have an 8525 and not a Tytn, but that shouldn't matter.
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All my other registry edits only require a soft reboot.
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That depends on how quickly you reboot after you made a change. The registry is not immediately flushed back to Flash memory, so if you do a soft reset too quickly, your registry changes may get lost. A shutdown with the power key forces writing any unsaved registry changes to Flash memory, so you're always on the safe side.
Something different: SKTracker can make snapshots of a system (including the registry), and also compare such snapshots. The trial version is limited, but it can create snapshots and the resulting "diffs". I used that tool to find out what GPRS Tweak does. Might also be of interest to you. And you can uninstall it afterwards.
Cheers
Daniel
I'm suprise not more people are asking about this since UMTS appears to drain the battery so quickly. Oh well.
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Being the tight wad that I am, I wanted to know how I turn off the GPRS after a session on my K-JAM. I've noticed that after I've been on internet explorer for example, the little G icon with the opposing arrows stays there, where the big [G] icon normally is.
I'm concerned that this might cost me money, and/or battery life by leaving it on, but I can't seem to find an option where I can terminate the GPRS..
1st post, so please excuse my ignorance - never used GPRS before. :wink:
Just keep your finger on the red end key when you have finished browsing.
Just keep your finger pressed on the red end key when you have finished browsing.
Excellent - such a good tip, you posted it twice
I shall try that next time I'm browsing. Taa
Mine seems to re-enable - any way to disable completly ?
Terran
It's probably re-enabling because something's requesting an internet connection. I get that when I lose connection to my WLAN at home. It drops the WLAN and then dials up GPRS. I suppose the only way of stopping this happening would be to delete the connection from your settings. Not something you should approach light-heartedly however....
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It's probably re-enabling because something's requesting an internet connection. I get that when I lose connection to my WLAN at home. It drops the WLAN and then dials up GPRS. I suppose the only way of stopping this happening would be to delete the connection from your settings. Not something you should approach light-heartedly however....
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Thats exactly it....
Not a bug but a design pain...
Terran
...especially when you're on a pay-as-you-go basis for GPRS
mikeiw said:
It's probably re-enabling because something's requesting an internet connection. I get that when I lose connection to my WLAN at home. It drops the WLAN and then dials up GPRS. I suppose the only way of stopping this happening would be to delete the connection from your settings. Not something you should approach light-heartedly however....
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What about re-assiging the default GPRS connection - that was some thing else I was looking for ?
Terran
Just done this.. under start / settings / connections / connections - changed mine to dial com1 with the number 1 instead of GPRS... should work for the mo - quick change.
Although not neat it works - I just hope a better solution is found.
Terran
I did the same thing, just corrupt your gprs connection settings by inserting an extra digit or something, then it won't connect up. This could probably be toggled by a shortcut to a registry setting.
This is useful with Newsbreak, since it attempts to download pictures from the connection on every story (on Gizmodo). So, I made a new net setting, VJSpoof, and just use that when i'm offline. No more bleating.
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vijay555 said:
I did the same thing, just corrupt your gprs connection settings by inserting an extra digit or something, then it won't connect up. This could probably be toggled by a shortcut to a registry setting.
This is useful with Newsbreak, since it attempts to download pictures from the connection on every story (on Gizmodo). So, I made a new net setting, VJSpoof, and just use that when i'm offline. No more bleating.
V
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Any one fany writing a today plugin ?
Terran
My 8125 is about a month old now and it is great. It’s my first experience with push email and it’s wonderful. I do have a few problems that I can not find a fix for. I have read many forums and have come to the conclusion that these features are either broke or were meant to work incorrectly.
1.) If you leave Pocket Outlook as the foreground task the 8125 will not notify you in any way that you have a new message. You have to turn the device on to check for new email. If Pocket Outlook is not running or its running in the background the phone will beep and the orange light will blink. If the phone is in standby it should notify you of a new message no matter what.
2.) The Bluetooth LED is always blinking. I always use a Bluetooth headset and it’s very common when I am driving to leave iNav GPS software running that uses a Bluetooth GPS. There is no reason for me to ever turn Bluetooth off so I do not need to be notified it is on or off. It would be nice if I could change the Bluetooth LED to notify me of voice mail or a missed call and the orange light can be used for new push email or SMS/MMS messages.
3.) When you open the keyboard it should light up. If you are in a dark room you have to open the keyboard the press a key to get it to light up. I also have not found a way to change how long it stays on for. There are a few reg hacks that claim they change the time but they do not work on my 8125.
4.) Every time I use WiFi I have to change my internet profile so it does not use a proxy. When you turn the WiFi radio on it should automatically change that info. When you turn WiFi off it should change it back automatically.
The following two have nothing to do with the 8125 but if someone has a fix it would be helpful.
5.) When you use push email your IT department can force a policy on the phone to ask for a password every 30 min of inactivity. This is a real pain if you are using a GPS. I found a reg hack that lets me change it to 24 hours but the policy gets forced on the device once a day and I have to run the reg hack again. Has anyone found a way around this?
6.) iNAV GPS Software has a bug that makes the voice navigation on all WM5 devices go very very very slow. The fix is to turn off the GPRS radio. When you do that all your push emails do not come in. iNAV claims they are working on a fix but I was curios if anyone found a way around this issue.
If anyone has any advice on these items it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
SeanH
There is no fix for the keyboard light issue. It is a flaw in the way it was built and is a hardware-activated light, so registry keys won't do anything.
Sorry, but that's all I have for you.
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4.) Every time I use WiFi I have to change my internet profile so it does not use a proxy. When you turn the WiFi radio on it should automatically change that info. When you turn WiFi off it should change it back automatically.
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I don't have a fix but just work around. What i am doing is to create a separate connection for wi-fi (no proxy). When you need to use wi-fi instead of gprs, you can simply select this connection from settings-->connections-->advanced-->select networks. Hence you don't have to remove the proxy settings for gprs everytime you use wi-fi. It takes a few steps but still easier than add/remove proxy settings. Hope this helps.
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6.) iNAV GPS Software has a bug that makes the voice navigation on all WM5 devices go very very very slow.
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I use iNav GPS software a lot but I didn't realize this issue. It seems running perfect, voice prompt, recalculation, display... which version of iNav are you using?
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1.) If you leave Pocket Outlook as the foreground task the 8125 will not notify you in any way that you have a new message. You have to turn the device on to check for new email. If Pocket Outlook is not running or its running in the background the phone will beep and the orange light will blink. If the phone is in standby it should notify you of a new message no matter what.
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I have a T-Mobile MDA (US) and use Pocket Informant v5 as the default PIM. I don't normally have PI in the foreground but haven't noticed this behavior under any circumstances.
3.) When you open the keyboard it should light up. If you are in a dark room you have to open the keyboard the press a key to get it to light up. I also have not found a way to change how long it stays on for. There are a few reg hacks that claim they change the time but they do not work on my 8125.
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Just touch the bottom right key or the spacebar and the keyboard backlight will turn on without affecting anything else. I've heard complaints about this but I can't see why this is an issue. OTOH, the timing of the backlight is another matter, and it should be adjustable. Alas, it appears not to be.
4.) Every time I use WiFi I have to change my internet profile so it does not use a proxy. When you turn the WiFi radio on it should automatically change that info. When you turn WiFi off it should change it back automatically.
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Mine just logs onto a network if available, and I haven't had any problems with wifi at all.
6.) iNAV GPS Software has a bug that makes the voice navigation on all WM5 devices go very very very slow. The fix is to turn off the GPRS radio. When you do that all your push emails do not come in. iNAV claims they are working on a fix but I was curios if anyone found a way around this issue.
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I'm using iGuidance v3 and haven't noticed this, but GPRS isn't being used. I'm not sure how to enable/disable it, but in Settings > Connections > GPRS it is set to "Chap Authentication." When upgrading firmware I do not auto-load the Ext. ROM programs and have only a few loaded manually, so the GPRS functionality may not be fully implemented. Needless to say, I am not subscribing to internet service at this time.
iclick said:
Just touch the bottom right key or the spacebar and the keyboard backlight will turn on without affecting anything else. I've heard complaints about this but I can't see why this is an issue.
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In a dark area it’s hard to see the keyboard until it lights up. I use the right arrow to get this display to light up. When you press the space bar it will enter a space in what ever app is active. Not turning the light on when the keyboard opens is a design flaw. Most people open the keyboard to use it. As soon as you press any key the light comes on so you can see the keys. It just makes sense to turn the keyboard light on when you open it so you can start typing.
iclick said:
I'm using iGuidance v3 and haven't noticed this, but GPRS isn't being used. I'm not sure how to enable/disable it, but in Settings > Connections > GPRS it is set to "Chap Authentication." When upgrading firmware I do not auto-load the Ext. ROM programs and have only a few loaded manually, so the GPRS functionality may not be fully implemented. Needless to say, I am not subscribing to internet service at this time.
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It looks like iNavcorp is in the process of posting a fix. This is from there web site.
Patch file (for DVD version only)
This patch will correct slow voice guidance speed issue on ppc phones as well as some other minor syntex/routing errors on ppc, laptop, and umpc/car pc versions. It also includes few new features such as panning mode exit timer as well as timer reset code for ppc phone edition.
SeanH
Hello everybody.
I would my phone to disconnect after a set period of time from GPRS/EDGE/HSDPA or whatever else.
I tried registry hack, as mentioned here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377873.
I tried HD tweak and GS-SOFT tweak too. In every case I noticed that the registry key change effectively, but unfortunately the connection remains active.
Any solution?
Thanks in advance
Hello,
i have the same behavior, i tried GBSOFT and GPRS auto-disconnect, after the installation i can see that cachetime is 600 seconds in the registry and my connection is not closed after 5 minutes so I don't know how to stop it.
Sometimes the radio signal icon is not changed back to a G but the connection is really closed.
Tyrion84 said:
Hello everybody.
I would my phone to disconnect after a set period of time from GPRS/EDGE/HSDPA or whatever else.
I tried registry hack, as mentioned here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377873.
I tried HD tweak and GS-SOFT tweak too. In every case I noticed that the registry key change effectively, but unfortunately the connection remains active.
Any solution?
Thanks in advance
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i have the same problem whit ROM 1.14 ITA other people have the same promem with this ROM.Try another ROM like Blakcook 1.8.1 ITA by Lucapicci
Tyrion84 said:
Hello everybody.
I would my phone to disconnect after a set period of time from GPRS/EDGE/HSDPA or whatever else.
I tried registry hack, as mentioned here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377873.
I tried HD tweak and GS-SOFT tweak too. In every case I noticed that the registry key change effectively, but unfortunately the connection remains active.
Any solution?
Thanks in advance
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I have used HD Tweak and it works perfectly. What I did find however if you set up e-mail to check about the same amount of time as the disconnect it will never disconnect or reconnects pretty clost to disconnecting. So watch the software times for connecting to retrieve data, that will force a reconnect and then another wait to disconnect.
I am having exactly the same issue.
i have also tried changing the setting in advanced config and tweak HD but still nothing. very annoying!
If in POutlook I choose the option to download e-mail once in a day, how can I change the time of retrieval?
lotw said:
I have used HD Tweak and it works perfectly. What I did find however if you set up e-mail to check about the same amount of time as the disconnect it will never disconnect or reconnects pretty clost to disconnecting. So watch the software times for connecting to retrieve data, that will force a reconnect and then another wait to disconnect.
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what schedule do you have it set at for it to work? i've tried to get email to check every 15 and 30 mintues and HD Tweak to disconnect after 1 minute and 5 minutes and just about every combination of them both and none of them will get the phone to disconnect data connection after retrieving email....help!!!
Yes, it seems new roms aren't compatible with these tweaks, did someone manage to do it? It sure is a battery drainer! :x
Start>Settings>Phone>Data>"Disable data connections (e.g. GPRS/3G) when device enters Sleep mode
Then set sleep mode to whatever you want the delay to be before it closes the data connection.
This may not be ideal for all of you, but hopefully it will help some. It works great for me. The data is never on unless I'm using it (ex. Opera) or if it's dling my email (once every 30min).
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Start>Settings>Phone>Data>"Disable data connections (e.g. GPRS/3G)
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I didn't fin it on my device.My rom il LP 1.8.1 based on 1.19WWE
Svegetto said:
Start>Settings>Phone>Data>"Disable data connections (e.g. GPRS/3G) when device enters Sleep mode
Then set sleep mode to whatever you want the delay to be before it closes the data connection.
This may not be ideal for all of you, but hopefully it will help some. It works great for me. The data is never on unless I'm using it (ex. Opera) or if it's dling my email (once every 30min).
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Yeah, that would make it, but when you download something or use a voip/3g call, that would cause problems...
Thank you very much for your inpuyt, it can help, 'till sombedy figures this out for real :x
I'd like my phone to use the data connection to download weather info etc., but I'd also like it to turn it off when idle to save power. Is there an app to do this?
thanks
Click on the 3G icon on the top bar, then when the notification screen opens click on the 3G icon again, that opens the Comm Mgr screen, turn off the data connection.
OR, are you wanting an app that will do it automatically after XX min?
It should automatically disconnect after usage. I find my data connection active for like 23 hours and such. Big battery hog when it isn't even being used.
On my Fuze, there was a registry edit which would set your END key to disconnect a data connection while on the homescreen in the default position. Worked really well except it doesn't work on my new AT&T Pure for some reason.
A single tap would work exactly like the END key currently does. Pretty nice.
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\Phone]
"Flags2"=dword:0000000A
Flags2: "Enables a disconnect button for GPRS connections to appear in the connectivity list. Also enables End key to disconnect GPRS."
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Actually it may still work. I just found that further down in my app.reg of my Custom folder, I had it set again, to 16.
[EDIT2]
Yup. Changing the value to A (A=10) works like a champ. It doesn't affect any normal End key functions either.
Alternatively, if you have TD2 Tools (which you should, great program), then under the Power tab, there is an option to 'Auto D/C Data Connection'. At least there is in 2a, v 2.0.3552.42948.
Yes, I want an app to disconnect the data connection after a few mins/secs. It should save power.
I will try the TD2 tools, I already had it but never thought about looking if it had this option built in.
Thanks to you all!
EDIT: It worked, it disconnects after a few minutes now. Does anybody know how to disable wake device when receiving SMS? The option is turned off, but still the device wakes itself.
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Alternatively, if you have TD2 Tools (which you should, great program), then under the Power tab, there is an option to 'Auto D/C Data Connection'. At least there is in 2a, v 2.0.3552.42948.
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player911 said:
It should automatically disconnect after usage. I find my data connection active for like 23 hours and such. Big battery hog when it isn't even being used.
On my Fuze, there was a registry edit which would set your END key to disconnect a data connection while on the homescreen in the default position. Worked really well except it doesn't work on my new AT&T Pure for some reason.
A single tap would work exactly like the END key currently does. Pretty nice.
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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\Phone]
"Flags2"=dword:0000000A
Flags2: "Enables a disconnect button for GPRS connections to appear in the connectivity list. Also enables End key to disconnect GPRS."
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Actually it may still work. I just found that further down in my app.reg of my Custom folder, I had it set again, to 16.
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Yup. Changing the value to A (A=10) works like a champ. It doesn't affect any normal End key functions either.
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Are both working on a TD2? I mean either the registry tweak or the TD2 Tool?
I personally prefer the reg tweak, however I don't understand the content of your EDIT note: "changing WHAT to 16"?? and your EDIT2 note : "changing the value to A" is in hex or dec? And do you mean that pressing the END hardware key will disconnect data connection now?
Hi
The data connection being on does not drain the battery. You have a network connection to the cell all the time otherwise you wouldn't receive phone calls, the data connection symbol just means your phone also has an IP address, that doesn't take any power.
If anything the connection remaining on saves power as each time you need a connection one doesn't have be created. Creating a connection uses more CPU cycles and radio power talking to the cell to open a network connection and then more to drop it.
The network operators also want the connection to remain on as it is less load on their networks than having them continually created then dropped.
More info here: http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/07/14/666203.aspx
Regards
Phil
you just need to modify these two entries (was written here many times)
Hkey_local_machine\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings
1. Change in CacheTime DWORD Data to 15 (Base is Dec value)
2. Change in SuspendResume the value to GPRS_bye_if_device_off
Make a soft reset.
The data connection should turn off after 15 sec if idle. It should also turn
off after you press the red key, or turn off the screen.
Try it.
Both solutions (reg mod and TD2 Tools) work most of the time, they are in fact the same. However I noticed 2 curious behaviours in which the timeout is not respected.
1) When I update weather via DataConnection, it does not autodisconnect after the preset time...it will when device goes in standby mode.
2) Data Connection stays on until Opera is open (even if not used).Once closed, timeout starts, and it's not that bad after all.
Can anyone confirm?
I used the TD2 tools, and i'm not experiencing these issues.
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Hi
The data connection being on does not drain the battery. You have a network connection to the cell all the time otherwise you wouldn't receive phone calls, the data connection symbol just means your phone also has an IP address, that doesn't take any power.
If anything the connection remaining on saves power as each time you need a connection one doesn't have be created. Creating a connection uses more CPU cycles and radio power talking to the cell to open a network connection and then more to drop it.
The network operators also want the connection to remain on as it is less load on their networks than having them continually created then dropped.
More info here: http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/07/14/666203.aspx
Regards
Phil
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This is good advice. Has anyone every experienced more battery drain if the the data connection is "left open"?
In any case, even if you "disconnect" data every time, if an app wants to access the internet, doesn't wm reconnect automatically again? (unless you use modaco "nodata" app or similar to inhibit it)
Didn't notice more battery drain with a data connection left open and you're right: if an app needs connection then it will automatically be opened. In my case I want auto disconnect because, even though I have 400 monthly prepaid connection hours, which is enormous for a phone, it annoys me to waste them while topaz is in my pocket.
Wow, thaks for the great tip Phil!
I have a prepaid 150MB limit, so it shouldn't bother me leaving it on. The 400 monthly hours sualc mentioned is indeed more of a problem.
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Are both working on a TD2? I mean either the registry tweak or the TD2 Tool?
I personally prefer the reg tweak, however I don't understand the content of your EDIT note: "changing WHAT to 16"?? and your EDIT2 note : "changing the value to A" is in hex or dec? And do you mean that pressing the END hardware key will disconnect data connection now?
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The problem mentioned above, about auto-disconnecting when programs are being used... this is why I program my reg edit to manual disconnect.
@BumAround: Set the value to "0000000A" (which is hex). "16" was my default value, which was also Hex.
This will do 2 things. It creates a "Disconnect" button from the PopUp Connection window and also allows the END key to disconnect only while at the Today screen in it's default position.
For example, if you are browsing Opera and press the END key... it will only take you back to the Today screen and won't touch your data connection. If your at the default position (the Clock tab on both Manila and Titanium), pressing END again will stop the data transmission.
It is a very good solution to the OP's problem by allowing you to disconnect the data connection easily, at will, and without the need for extra programs.
player911 said:
The problem mentioned above, about auto-disconnecting when programs are being used... this is why I program my reg edit to manual disconnect.
@BumAround: Set the value to "0000000A" (which is hex). "16" was my default value, which was also Hex.
This will do 2 things. It creates a "Disconnect" button from the PopUp Connection window and also allows the END key to disconnect only while at the Today screen in it's default position.
For example, if you are browsing Opera and press the END key... it will only take you back to the Today screen and won't touch your data connection. If your at the default position (the Clock tab on both Manila and Titanium), pressing END again will stop the data transmission.
It is a very good solution to the OP's problem by allowing you to disconnect the data connection easily, at will, and without the need for extra programs.
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Wow! Cool! You mean pressing END (hardware) key twice, once to bring the phone to the Today main screen, and one more time to disconnect data connection at will? Sweet!
Hi Sualc, the same "problem" for me updating weather (using option for data connection inTD2 Tools)
Not sure
PhilipL said:
Hi
The data connection being on does not drain the battery. You have a network connection to the cell all the time otherwise you wouldn't receive phone calls, the data connection symbol just means your phone also has an IP address, that doesn't take any power.
If anything the connection remaining on saves power as each time you need a connection one doesn't have be created. Creating a connection uses more CPU cycles and radio power talking to the cell to open a network connection and then more to drop it.
The network operators also want the connection to remain on as it is less load on their networks than having them continually created then dropped.
Regards
Phil
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Not sure about this... and forgive me if I shouldn't be commenting because I'm referencing a cdma HTC touch pro 2, but I think this aspect is common.
My understanding is that the arrows up in the status bar should show white when a data connection is active and transferring data, but should turn gray when the connection is connected but not actively transmitting data. On my TP2, the data connection always shows the connection active and transmitting (the arrows stay white and never turn gray). I'm thinking if this is happening, one must surely be eating battery that isn't necessary.
On a cdma phone, the GPRS registry setting that is mentioned in this thread won't work because, although it will make the data connection automatically disconnect after an active data session, and you can change how long that time is with the CacheTime registry setting, unfortunately, on my HTC touch pro 2 Sprint cdma phone, you can't answer incoming calls when a data connection is active using these settings. I have to change the GPRS setting to #777 instead to be able to answer incoming calls when a data connection is active.... and with the #777 registry setting, I then loose the automatic time out and turning off of the data connection, so it stays on and showing active unless I turn it off manually and even then it comes on by it's self so often it's not even worth turning it off manually.
If any of you tech wizards can find a way for me to both be able to answer incoming calls when the is an active data connection, and also have the data connection time out and turn off automatically when not being used, I'd love to see it, because it sure seems to me I use more battery when I'm not turning off my data connection a lot manually, but it gets old always having to turn it off too!
Every now and then, I notice that my phone connects to the internet (t-mobile internet). I find this strange because I've disabled everything (i can think of) from automatically updating or connecting (weather, email and msMyPhone). I have an unlimited data plan so I'm not particularly worried about the cost; however, it drains my battery fast. Just yesterday, I tapped the top of the screen to see my notifications and I noticed that t-mobile internet had been connected for over 2 hours. I just can’t figure out the cause. I've even done the auto disconnect registry tweak (auto disconnect after 60 seconds) but still no joy. If anyone can help or even suggest a process monitoring application, I’d be very grateful. Thanks in advance.
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Every now and then, I notice that my phone connects to the internet (t-mobile internet). I find this strange because I've disabled everything (i can think of) from automatically updating or connecting (weather, email and msMyPhone). I have an unlimited data plan so I'm not particularly worried about the cost; however, it drains my battery fast. Just yesterday, I tapped the top of the screen to see my notifications and I noticed that t-mobile internet had been connected for over 2 hours. I just can’t figure out the cause. I've even done the auto disconnect registry tweak (auto disconnect after 60 seconds) but still no joy. If anyone can help or even suggest a process monitoring application, I’d be very grateful. Thanks in advance.
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Did you disable the rest of the services ( HTC location service, stocks, Internet time sync, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube as well ? In my case the Stock were causing unwanted connections before I figured out..
jarbi said:
Stock were causing unwanted connections before I figured out..
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I think stock was the culprit. I removed it from the home tab from day one and as a result couldnt access it's settings. I put it back on and sure enough it was connecting every 30 mins.
Thanks alot mate. I'll report back in a day or two with the results, though I'm pretty certain it was the stock application.
If you want to be able to turn internet off so it cant connect when you dont want it to then just install the attached cab, run the program then you can enable or disable both settings as appropriate.
I also recommend to use NoData.
Just go to settings->wireless control->connection->advance->select network(choose my work connection if you havent rename it yet) If you would like to use hsdpa/edge/gprs again you will have to change it to as it was before.
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If you want to be able to turn internet off so it cant connect when you dont want it to then just install the attached cab, run the program then you can enable or disable both settings as appropriate.
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Got a brand new HD2 and each time I install NoData, I get an error. What should I do to fix this please?
What's the error message you are getting?
WB
str0g said:
Just go to settings->wireless control->connection->advance->select network(choose my work connection if you havent rename it yet) If you would like to use hsdpa/edge/gprs again you will have to change it to as it was before.
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the best solution without any installation .
HD2 connection problem
Hi i have encountered the same problem my phone keeps logging into its internet for no reason , i have to disconnect it regularly . now that i have downloaded the nodata.cap how do i use it ? i have installed it onto my phone . how does this file work
feliciang said:
Hi i have encountered the same problem my phone keeps logging into its internet for no reason , i have to disconnect it regularly . now that i have downloaded the nodata.cap how do i use it ? i have installed it onto my phone . how does this file work
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Just run nodata and then follow the on screen instructions its easy to use.
Mark.
mskip said:
Just run nodata and then follow the on screen instructions its easy to use.
Mark.
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Even better, you can use Dial-up Enabler/Disabler: works like nodata but interface is a little better and is more user friendly ;-)
thegios said:
Even better, you can use Dial-up Enabler/Disabler: works like nodata but interface is a little better and is more user friendly ;-)
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Pls note that with nodata, you disable the internet connection but, if the connection is active while disabling it, you still need to end it manually after exiting nodata.
This sounds weird I know...
With dial-up enabler/dsabler it is a lot easier as you will see two connections: one is the internet connection configured on your phone and the other is the current active connection, and you can disable them at the same time.
In addition it does not have annoying confirmation messages on disabling and exiting
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Every now and then, I notice that my phone connects to the internet (t-mobile internet). I find this strange because I've disabled everything (i can think of) from automatically updating or connecting (weather, email and msMyPhone). I have an unlimited data plan so I'm not particularly worried about the cost; however, it drains my battery fast. Just yesterday, I tapped the top of the screen to see my notifications and I noticed that t-mobile internet had been connected for over 2 hours. I just can’t figure out the cause. I've even done the auto disconnect registry tweak (auto disconnect after 60 seconds) but still no joy. If anyone can help or even suggest a process monitoring application, I’d be very grateful. Thanks in advance.
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how do u do auto disconnection tweak
HD2 connection problem
Connect your HD2 to your computer and transfer the cad file to your mobile.
Find the file on your phone using File Explorer (on the phone).
Double click on it and follow the instructions.
Then go to Start and locate the nodata programme.
Start it and disable what you want.
I disabled the Orange (in my case) internet connection and WAP.
In my case it is crucial that I donet't g automatic access to internet services when I roam because I am on a PAYG tariff.
£20 last me up to three months normally with a different phone (SIC) and since I started using my HD2 my last top up lasted me less than a week.
It's a rip-off!
Once beaten, twice shy...
I won't be caught again!
Hope this helps
Djam2011