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Disable auto connect to GPRS or 3g

Hi
Without going through every application how can I setup the connection options to only automatically connect when wifi is available or when docked. Idealy I would like to be prompted to connect via GPRS or 3g network? Any reg hacks on this one?
Regards
Eric

GPRS connection disable or prompt
hi, I'm having the same issue as above...would like to connect to GPRS manually only.
anyone !??!

me to, i am only on a limited plan for gprs/3g and the costs are quite high 2c p kb.
i use wifi at home a lot, so usually not a problem, but dodgy activesyncs to exchange server, or accidentally opening IE auto connects 3g gprs without prompting.
Any hacks, or software that anybody knows about.

I also need this, i ran my bill up without knowing/wanting to

simon_darley said:
accidentally opening IE auto connects 3g gprs without prompting.
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I have changed my default IE page to "about:blank" - at least it means that IE doesn't go off trying to load a page by default that I'm most likely not interested in, but it also prevents it from connecting GPRS/3G should you start it by accident.
Cheers,
Steve.

Has anyone had any luck with this? I also am on an expensive tariff and unwanted connections prove costly. I have not yet found the answer, but will keep you all posted if I stumble across a setting/hack.

Would also like some tips on this, dont know whats dialling up 3g, but everytime i looked at my phone it was bloody connected grrrr.

Im also intressted, i need like a on/off button for the gprs. My damn egress updates my blogs/rss streams all the time. I have disable autoupdate in egress but it still wants to update sometimes :/

I've found nothing yet and have resorted to removing my GPRS settings until sorted.
I will crack open C# and attempt my first PDA utility - with the aim being to prevent GPRS/GSM from connecting unless something is manually toggled. Wish me luck

dudes, this has been posted a few times already
it's a part of the t-mob ext rom.
enjoy
joe

joebongo said:
dudes, this has been posted a few times already
it's a part of the t-mob ext rom.
enjoy
joe
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What does this cab file do exactly? Does it give you an option to manualy connect or does it turn GPRS off completely? Plus where can we find the option to turn it ON if we can?
One more thing please, can I install this cab file on my O2 XDA Exec without any conflicts since it was made for T-Mobile?

I am not 110% but I believe it appears in a number of carrier ext roms, and just stops GPRS from being attached all the time (like an idle disconnect perhaps?)
When you want GPRS, then you can connect by starting the application you want (ie : Internet Explorer) and GPRS kicks in.
Hope it helps.
Joe

couldnt find it in mine, using the imate jj.
will install and see what happens....

using vijay's method http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37963
you still get the msg that it is trying to connect and eventually an error msg, but better than a big phone bill

Hi guys !
I've installed the .cab on my 9000 and G icon is now disappeared
In the future will be possible to uninstall the .cab and restore the icon ?
Thanks :wink:

GPRS Disable / Enable

Is there an app available that will allow me to diable or enable GPRS usage ? I would like to use GPRS when im out and about, but dont want my phone doing things like connect to GPRS if I forget to sign out of messenger when ive been using wifi. When the phone switches itself off, it will connect via GPRS and download any messages emails.
I have put some dummy accounts in to stop it connecting but it keeps coming up with unknown application errors then although it does stop it costing me any download allowance / money.

Anyone ?

knowsleyroader said:
Anyone ?
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Maybe you did not get an anwer because you posted it in friday the 13th
But I want the same.
I am going abroad later this month, and I don't want any program to connect via GPRS.
It just costs too much.
So does anyone have a solution to disable connection by GPRS?

Hi all. All you do is press and hold the call end button for a few seconds and GPRS will be switched off.
knowsleyroader said:
Is there an app available that will allow me to disable or enable GPRS usage ? I would like to use GPRS when im out and about, but dont want my phone doing things like connect to GPRS if I forget to sign out of messenger when ive been using wifi. When the phone switches itself off, it will connect via GPRS and download any messages emails.
I have put some dummy accounts in to stop it connecting but it keeps coming up with unknown application errors then although it does stop it costing me any download allowance / money.
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MACkjam said:
Hi all. All you do is press and hold the call end button for a few seconds and GPRS will be switched off.
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I think you are mistaking the question.
If you press the Call End button for a few seconds, it indeed will end the GPRS session.
For that moment.
But if an application want to connect, it reconnects with GPRS just that easily.
And that's what you are afraid of, when roaming.
I really want to control the GPRS connection, off or on.

I use SPB GPRS Monitor. It adds a Icon to the menu bar at the top. You just tap on it, tap connect, and there you go. You can disconnect also. The program is skinnable as well! Moreover, it monitors your GPRS usage so you know when Vodafone is over charging you
cya

I also use GPRS monitor, but that's not the issue here.
I know how to disconnect, but I don't want GPRS to connect automatically, whatever condition.
Just do not connect via GPRS unless I tell the wizard to do so.

i know how you can do it!!!! Close messager and you will not have the problem!!!!! does not take brains! If you cant do that why the heck do you have a phone like this, which must be really too high tech for you!

ronh said:
I also use GPRS monitor, but that's not the issue here.
I know how to disconnect, but I don't want GPRS to connect automatically, whatever condition.
Just do not connect via GPRS unless I tell the wizard to do so.
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Oh, okay....no clue in that case
The best way would be not to save the password to the connection, so it asks for it each time. That will stop it connecting, but it is inconvenient
Hope that helps

funman said:
i know how you can do it!!!! Close messager and you will not have the problem!!!!! does not take brains! If you cant do that why the heck do you have a phone like this, which must be really too high tech for you!
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Hmm, this is no fun-man.
I ask a normal question, so please give a normal answer.
I have pushmail, newsreader, weatherpanel, Messenger and maybe some more progs who connect automatically over GPRS.
In holland that's no problem because I have a flat fee abo.
But when I go abroad I have to disable each and every application by hand.
(Roaming GPRS is sooo expensive )
So this device is definately not too high tech for me, but I am looking for an easy solution and that's to control GPRS by hand.

One program does it all for you:
Vijay555's VJVolubilis program!
Google search for Vijay555. Go to Releases. He's got a bunch of software written by him (a BIG THANK YOU to Vijay - Viva la ViJay!)
Instructions:
- Install cab file.
- Create a shortcut (using Ilauncher or any other programs that allows you to) and change the properties to wot you need
- In your case, use the properties - -gprson or -gprsoff or -gprstoggle
- You can set one icon to turn GPRS on and one to turn GPRS off in case you're worried about toggling it on instead of off.
Works great for me.
And don't forget to donate to Vijay!
Hope that helps.

Thanx, that's really looking promising.
It seems exactly what I was looking for.
I will test this prog asap.

i have been looking for a prog like this so I do not get price raped when my gprs drops out...I will test it out thanks.

Normal for gprs to connect when already connected to wifi???

This doesnt seem normal to me as i dont remember this happening when i first got my 8125. When i go to internet explorer after i turn on wifi and connect to my home network it starts loading the page and then the connecting to gprs dialog box shows up. It still seems like it is using wifi but when i click on the wifi signal the gprs time meter is counting up. It seems to me like it shouldnt try to connect to gprs if the wifi signal is already picked up and connected. I thought i remembered reading about this somewhere but ive read so many topics in different places that i cant find it. Is this normal or should i do something to fix it? Thanks in advance.
Ty

anyone?

i just did this last night ..hopefully i rememebr the steps
but what you essentially have to do is remove the connection to the GPRS network and then itll stop connectinig to GPRS brb with an edit ill have to retrace my steps
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ok i think this is how i did it
tap start --settings -- connections tab -- then tap on connections and then make sure that there are no connections for GPRS i know its a little vague but i really forgot how i did it..

can't say that that helped me to much, sorry. I dont want to eliminate the gprs all together, i just dont want it to connect when im using wifi. Please help!

even with wifi on when it goes to sleep it will be the gprs that kicks in - pain in the butt :shock:

im just looking for a fix for this. Unfortunately my work doesnt have wifi so i cant test some things ive read here to see if it still does it. I have tried going into connections-network adapters- and selecting "the internet". Also, when i go to settings--connections--connections-advanced should i have media net, my isp, or my work selected? not sure if this has anything to do with my problem but i just want to make sure. Also, when i am connected to wifi and my gprs timer is also going, which is it using? I have an unlimited data plan so its not the biggest deal if its running but i just want to make sure im using wifi, not gprs.

RegistryWizard?
Are you using the program called "registry wizard"? I know one of the tweaks/registry edits is called GPRS always on. It might be the cause if one of the registry settings is telling the OS to always have a GPRS connection regardless of whether or not there is a WiFi connection or a program is requesting internet data...

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Are you using the program called "registry wizard"? I know one of the tweaks/registry edits is called GPRS always on. It might be the cause if one of the registry settings is telling the OS to always have a GPRS connection regardless of whether or not there is a WiFi connection or a program is requesting internet data...
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nope, I don't have that program...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=320173#320173
You will select either 'My work network' or 'My ISP' depending on which rom you're using. If MEdia Net is selected, it will use GPRS. To tell whether or not it will use GPRS on any of these settings, you hit the 'edit' button. Don't change anything, but check it out, and it will tell you whether it will connect to GPRS if anything is in there. For me, 'My ISP' has 'auto pick' which means if it finds wifi or wifi is enabled, it will use that first, if not then use GPRS. If you have a stock rom, 'My ISP' may not have anything in it, therefore it will use wifi, or nothing. Remember to associate any wireless router you have to either your 'work' or 'internet' profiles.

awsome, looks like that worked. One question though....am i affected in any way by not having it set to media net? Will my edge and everything still work the same if i leave it on my isp? Thanks for the help
Ty
EDIT: It works better than it did but every so often it trys to connect to edge but it usually doesnt unless im inactive for a bit online. Is this supposed to happen?

I now leave my setting set to ISP instead of MediaNet and at first it is just connected to wifi but then as soon as it is done loading a page gprs tries to connect again so i have to hit cancel like 6 or 7 times to stop gprs from connecting. After that it doesnt try to connect but i wish i could avoid this because its a pain when im just trying to find something real fast. I just downloaded opera today and only tried a few pages on my wifi network and from the couple minutes i used it i dont think it ever tried to connect to the gprs while i was using wifi. i will have to test this a little bit more to confirm but is there any way its IE that could be causing the gprs to try and connect even though it has a full wifi signal?

Auto-Disconnect UMTS?

I have searched the forum for a tweak that can automatically disconnect the UMTS data after being idle for X minutes but do not see it. I only see a tweak to keep it alive. I want the opposite. Any help would be appreciated.
thanks

On most roms all you have to do is press and hold the hang up button to disconnect the data by yourself.
S.K.

silent_killa said:
On most roms all you have to do is press and hold the hang up button to disconnect the data by yourself.
S.K.
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I know that. But that is manual and tedious.
Some of my apps automatically open the data connection, so I want a way to automatically close it after it's done.

I am interested as well if someone knows of a tweak for it... When I hit the 3G area near my home, my battery goes pretty quick. On EDGE my battery life is awesome.

wimpy said:
I have searched the forum for a tweak that can automatically disconnect the UMTS data after being idle for X minutes but do not see it. I only see a tweak to keep it alive. I want the opposite. Any help would be appreciated.
thanks
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There's a little program which does exactly this for GPRS. I haven't tried, but I would assume it also works for UMTS. To achieve this functionality, it just sets the value of the registry key HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\CacheTimer to the idle time (in seconds) after which GPRS (and hopefully UMTS) will get disconnected.
Cheers
Daniel

tadzio said:
There's a little program which does exactly this for GPRS. I haven't tried, but I would assume it also works for UMTS. To achieve this functionality, it just sets the value of the registry key HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\CacheTimer to the idle time (in seconds) after which GPRS (and hopefully UMTS) will get disconnected.
Cheers
Daniel
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Nope, just tried that in my registry and it still doesn't disconnect.

GB-SOFT GPRS & Audio Tweak
i am running this on my universal for that purpose and it works on umts in tokyo. i haven't tried it on my hermes though as i want to keep the connection always on for my push email, but i think it should work on hermes as well. give it a shot, it's free.
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm

Here's something that may or may not be useful to some. I used to think that for ease of access to webpages I would have GPRS always set to on. I did this using Tweaks2k2 under phone tricks. But this was a pest as when I wanted to use wifi the GPRS kept trying to take over.
I went back to Tweaks2k2 and unchecked GPRS always on. Now when I'm not using wifi and I go to a webpage the GPRS connects nicely but the second it's downloaded the page it instantly disconnects itself and stays off - ideal for me.
Before, enabling the continuous connection and then disabling it using Tweaks2k2, if I connected to GPRS it would stay connected until I manually turned it off again, but now it does it automatically and without delay. (I'm assuming it was THIS that has created my, as and when needed GPRS connection). Certainly saves having to set idle times etc to get it to auto shut off.
Mike

Try PhoneAlarm
It has an option to do exactly this. I use it to disconnect after 2 mins and activesync to run every 30 mins and it has improved my battery life immensely.
Rob

I think it can help you. It's very usefull and saves the battery.
It's a little C program that checks the gprs/umts connections every 2 minutes. althought the pda could be suspended the program checks the connections every two minutes. If there isnt data flow then the connection is closes.
It has 4 buttons.
DISABLE: It disables the checks. So if you are surfing the web and you dont want the program closes the connection push this button.
ENABLE: Enable the checks again.
OK: Closes de window (the program continues activated. You can open the window again tapping the little blue icon in the botton).
CLOSE: Close the program.
I recomment the put it in ROM and you should create a shortcut and put it in \windows\startup directory.

Yip, another good one to try. Thanks
Mike

mikechannon said:
Here's something that may or may not be useful to some. I used to think that for ease of access to webpages I would have GPRS always set to on. I did this using Tweaks2k2 under phone tricks. But this was a pest as when I wanted to use wifi the GPRS kept trying to take over.
I went back to Tweaks2k2 and unchecked GPRS always on. Now when I'm not using wifi and I go to a webpage the GPRS connects nicely but the second it's downloaded the page it instantly disconnects itself and stays off - ideal for me.
Before, enabling the continuous connection and then disabling it using Tweaks2k2, if I connected to GPRS it would stay connected until I manually turned it off again, but now it does it automatically and without delay. (I'm assuming it was THIS that has created my, as and when needed GPRS connection). Certainly saves having to set idle times etc to get it to auto shut off.
Mike
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Can you tell me what registry setting that modifies? I would like to have UMTS disconnect after it's done also. But do not want to install too many apps.

wimpy said:
Can you tell me what registry setting that modifies? I would like to have UMTS disconnect after it's done also. But do not want to install too many apps.
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Sorry don't know answer - maybe somebody does??
Mike

It doesnt modify any registry setting. It is a program checking the state of the ras connections each 2 minutes........ Later i will post the source code. Now i have to go.....

danielherrero said:
It doesnt modify any registry setting. It is a program checking the state of the ras connections each 2 minutes........ Later i will post the source code. Now i have to go.....
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I'm sure you are right but ever since I used Tweaks2k2 and turned the GPRS setting off the always on connection it disconnects from GPRS the second the page is downloaded. There is no wait for a period up to 2 minutes. As soon as I tap on another link to another webpage it fires up GPRS again followed by an instantaneous disconnect after page downloaded. Of course if it's caching the page the period of time it takes to display the page might be getting on for two minutes. However many pages take far less time than that - e.g. text only pages and I'm not aware of any delay in the GPRS disconnecting but I'll test this tonight.
Bottom line is this works for me, but as there seem to be, according to posts above, lots of applications to power the GPRS on and off (and stay off until it's needed), then presumably we are all happy now??
Mike

harryk1372 said:
i am running this on my universal for that purpose and it works on umts in tokyo. i haven't tried it on my hermes though as i want to keep the connection always on for my push email, but i think it should work on hermes as well. give it a shot, it's free.
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
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Do you know which registry key it modifies? I rather manually edit the registry setting then install this program for that sole purpose.
thanks

wimpy said:
Do you know which registry key it modifies? I rather manually edit the registry setting then install this program for that sole purpose.
thanks
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That is the program I linked to in the first post, and it uses the registry key I mentioned.
Just to double-check - after you made the change to the registry, did you shut down (keep power key pressed until a dialog box pops up - do not just soft-reset!) and reboot your TyTN?
Also, make sure GPRS Always-On is off: check that "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A3 8-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\Connections\<your GPRS connection name>\AlwaysOn" is set to 0.
Cheers
Daniel

tadzio said:
That is the program I linked to in the first post, and it uses the registry key I mentioned.
Just to double-check - after you made the change to the registry, did you shut down (keep power key pressed until a dialog box pops up - do not just soft-reset!) and reboot your TyTN?
Also, make sure GPRS Always-On is off: check that "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A3 8-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\Connections\<your GPRS connection name>\AlwaysOn" is set to 0.
Cheers
Daniel
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All my other registry edits only require a soft reboot.
Btw, my AlwaysOn for that key is defaulted to 0 anyways. So just this registry setting alone does not disconnect my data when idle.
A side note, I have an 8525 and not a Tytn, but that shouldn't matter.

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All my other registry edits only require a soft reboot.
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That depends on how quickly you reboot after you made a change. The registry is not immediately flushed back to Flash memory, so if you do a soft reset too quickly, your registry changes may get lost. A shutdown with the power key forces writing any unsaved registry changes to Flash memory, so you're always on the safe side.
Something different: SKTracker can make snapshots of a system (including the registry), and also compare such snapshots. The trial version is limited, but it can create snapshots and the resulting "diffs". I used that tool to find out what GPRS Tweak does. Might also be of interest to you. And you can uninstall it afterwards.
Cheers
Daniel

I'm suprise not more people are asking about this since UMTS appears to drain the battery so quickly. Oh well.

Network selection hierachy - Wifi vs GPRS (Kaiser)

When I'm in the house (and assuming I've got the wifi switched on on the Tytn 2), how do I get it to use the Wifi to access the Web as a first option?
Even when its connected to my wireless LAN (which it does with no problems at all - much better than my old Wizzard), if I launch Explorer it automatically makes a GPRS connection. The only way to force it to use the Wifi seems to be to turn the Phone off in the comm manager - which then means I can't receive any calls.
I can't find any setting that dicates the network hierachy i.e. that says if there is a Wireless LAN connection then don't bother with GPRS, or if there isn't, then use GPRS.
I seem to recall there was something similar on desktop Windoze where you could have it automatically use a dial up connection if there was no LAN available.
Can anyone help?

Iain.m said:
When I'm in the house (and assuming I've got the wifi switched on on the Tytn 2), how do I get it to use the Wifi to access the Web as a first option?
Even when its connected to my wireless LAN (which it does with no problems at all - much better than my old Wizzard), if I launch Explorer it automatically makes a GPRS connection. The only way to force it to use the Wifi seems to be to turn the Phone off in the comm manager - which then means I can't receive any calls.
I can't find any setting that dicates the network hierachy i.e. that says if there is a Wireless LAN connection then don't bother with GPRS, or if there isn't, then use GPRS.
I seem to recall there was something similar on desktop Windoze where you could have it automatically use a dial up connection if there was no LAN available.
Can anyone help?
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I'm now getting the same thing using Emoze - the thing is sitting here connected to the Wifi & will sync mail & contacts etc over the wifi quite happily - but as soon as I try & send mail from the handheld it starts up not one but two GPRS connections (!) Much the same as if I try & get a web page up - it automatically goes to GPRS as its default route to the internet despite that fact that its already connected via wifi & the only way to stop this behaviour seems to be to switch the phone off in Comm Manager.
Seems to be something inherrantly odd about the way the Tytn 2 is deciding what network connection is available & which it should use. It looks like it needs a little control application to sit between the IP stack & the hardware so that when a request comes it can be routed according to user preference - i.e. Use WIfi if available, Only use GPRS etc The Wifi doesn't seem to fire up a connection when it feels like it - only the GPRS. Do all the HTC devices with WIfi behave this way?
In the meantime, does anyone know of a simple way to turn off/disable GPRS without disabling the phone?
WHile I have plenty of GPRS data allowance in my package when I'm in the house at my desk (or anywhere else I can get a wifi connection) I'd rather it just used the Wifi to sync itself or if I decided call up a web page.
Besides, it interferes with the hi-fi speakers in my study with that annoying buzzing noise everytime the GPRS gets busy.
I.

Hi guys,
I use 3 different wifi networks during the course of a day, well 2 a day, 3 through out the week probably. Home/Work/Friends house
I have a very small data package (5mb) so i am very choosy about when I use my data connection!
Anyways, did some testing.
I already know that if I have no wifi, no data connection on, then I try and start outlook or Internet Explorer, then my data connection starts up (as it should)
now if i have my data connection on, then i turn on wifi on the phone, the wifi connection takes over and the data connection is not being used, even though it's on.
I also have no problems with when wifi is on and data is off, and if i goto outlook or IE, that gprs decides to go on. this does not happen tome (unless for some strange reason wifi cuts out, gprs tries to take over)
So i dont know if its something with your settings or not, maybe your phone goes to sleep and wifi turns off then gprs takes over, or i could be misunderstanding your question, because now that I think about it, perhaps you are asking something like..
- at home no wifi or data connection is active at that moment
- you navigate to a page in IE and instead of gprs turning on, wifi turns on/scans for lan and uses that
Yeah, that's probably waht you are asking.. haha yahoo for long winded useless post
If you figure it out, i want to know! lol

Iain.m said:
I'm now getting the same thing using Emoze - the thing is sitting here connected to the Wifi & will sync mail & contacts etc over the wifi quite happily - but as soon as I try & send mail from the handheld it starts up not one but two GPRS connections (!) Much the same as if I try & get a web page up - it automatically goes to GPRS as its default route to the internet despite that fact that its already connected via wifi & the only way to stop this behaviour seems to be to switch the phone off in Comm Manager.
Seems to be something inherrantly odd about the way the Tytn 2 is deciding what network connection is available & which it should use. It looks like it needs a little control application to sit between the IP stack & the hardware so that when a request comes it can be routed according to user preference - i.e. Use WIfi if available, Only use GPRS etc The Wifi doesn't seem to fire up a connection when it feels like it - only the GPRS. Do all the HTC devices with WIfi behave this way?
In the meantime, does anyone know of a simple way to turn off/disable GPRS without disabling the phone?
WHile I have plenty of GPRS data allowance in my package when I'm in the house at my desk (or anywhere else I can get a wifi connection) I'd rather it just used the Wifi to sync itself or if I decided call up a web page.
Besides, it interferes with the hi-fi speakers in my study with that annoying buzzing noise everytime the GPRS gets busy.
I.
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You should be able to use the comm manager to turn off the data connection, but as for keeping it off permanently, until you decide you want it to be even allowed to be active again maybe you can try this, it should disable your connection until you see fit.
http://www.modaco.com/content/Pocket-PC-Software/246171/New-FREE-Utility/

briggs81 said:
You should be able to use the comm manager to turn off the data connection, but as for keeping it off permanently, until you decide you want it to be even allowed to be active again maybe you can try this, it should disable your connection until you see fit.
http://www.modaco.com/content/Pocket-PC-Software/246171/New-FREE-Utility/
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Great little utility , thanks very much for pointing that out - it at least allows me to do what I want manually - i.e. use my wifi without having to turn the phone off.
Although I know you can disconnect GPRS from the Comm manager, it also doesn't seem to have an idle time out so once an application (like Emoze) has started it up it keeps running in the background. Also, as soon as you turn it off, inevitably Emoze turns it straight back on! The NoData application gives much more control so thanks for that.
I do go abroad reasonably often so also happy to be able to use it for its primary purpose of disabling GPRS whilst roaming to avoid silly charges
It would be great if HTC could build a bit more intelligence and control into the network side of these things though.
I.

You may want to look into Schaps Advanced Config or KaiserTweak for wifi/gprs settings.
You can set timers and disconnects, etc, with those applications.

Iain.m said:
When I'm in the house (and assuming I've got the wifi switched on on the Tytn 2), how do I get it to use the Wifi to access the Web as a first option?
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The Good News: I fixed this behavior on the phone w/o any 3rd-party utilities, etc.
The Bad News: I'm not 100% sure how. :-/ My apologies. Here is what I think did it:
Make sure your browser is closed and you have no open data connections.
1- Open the Wireless Manager and make sure "WLAN" is on and "Data Connection" is off.
2- Go to Start>Settings and choose the "Connections" tab along the bottom.
3- Open "Wireless LAN," choose your home wireless network, and make sure you're actively connected to it (should see a signal quality meter, device network settings, etc).
4- Close "Wireless LAN" and while "Settings" is still open and on the "Connections" tab, open "Wi-Fi." Your list of known Wi-Fi networks should be showing: make sure your home network says "connected."
5- Close everything back out to your "Today" screen.
When my Tilt is set this way -- and actively connected to my WLAN -- the Wireless Manager grays out "Data Connections" and doesn't even respond if I tap the icon. IE automatically uses my WLAN, although it won't connect to some of its pre-loaded favs b/c, I think, they're on WAP servers and the Wi-Fi/NAT router assigns/negotiates TCP/IP protocols for your phone.
I think now I accomplish all the above by simply opening the keyboard and pressing the FN/Wi-Fi key.
FYI -- In truth, I solved this problem by installing Opera Mobile and setting it as my default browser. Opera Mobile is a full browser, i.e. doesn't use WAP.
Hope this helps. If not, sorry for this 5 minutes of your life you'll never get back. :-/
gT