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Hey, I've recently converted some DVD's to MP4's for use on my GF's iPod video, and they work great there. I figured I'd try to use them on my phone, of course, and had to find a media player to do it (Platform 4 Player), but for some reason the video is choppy as hell. These same files play perfectly on an ipod. I used CloneDVD Mobile to do the ripping (and DVD43 to break the encryption, which clearly worked out as evidenced by the ipod playing them just fine), so I'm at a loss for what's the problem. These are at 320x240, AAC audio.
Help!
Thanks!
Jason
Not sure if it will work, but you might try TCPMP, which you can find at tcpmp.corecodec.org. (If that link doesn't work, just google it. I was having problems with the link when I wrote this).
Yeah, I tried TCPMP and it wouldn't play back the video *at all* for some reason. I got audio thanks to the AAC plugin, but still, no video. It's strange because the same damn episodes and movies recompressed to WMV play just fine, but of course, those won't work on the iPod.
try this http://www.tuttoericsson.com/software/varie/mp4/mp4.htm
hanmin said:
try this http://www.tuttoericsson.com/software/varie/mp4/mp4.htm
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That's what I have right now. It *works*, and I get video at least, but it's so choppy that it looks like a slideshow.
Anyone ever use MP4's on an 8125 successfully I wonder?
Thanks for the help so far guys, I do appreciate it.
jasongw said:
That's what I have right now. It *works*, and I get video at least, but it's so choppy that it looks like a slideshow.
Anyone ever use MP4's on an 8125 successfully I wonder?
Thanks for the help so far guys, I do appreciate it.
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I had the import copy of Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children as an MP4 on my Wizard a while back and actually found that overclocking helped with playback.
At the stock 195Mhz, the phone would have some problems with choppy playback or even some spurts of clean playback and then a hesitation. When overclocked to 260Mhz, the playback became as smooth as silk.
Are you dropping in the MP4's straight in or are you converting them with a program like Pocket DivX converter? Conversion will usually help out with choppy playback as well, provided that the scaling and details optimize playback and etc.
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I had the import copy of Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children as an MP4 on my Wizard a while back and actually found that overclocking helped with playback.
At the stock 195Mhz, the phone would have some problems with choppy playback or even some spurts of clean playback and then a hesitation. When overclocked to 260Mhz, the playback became as smooth as silk.
Are you dropping in the MP4's straight in or are you converting them with a program like Pocket DivX converter? Conversion will usually help out with choppy playback as well, provided that the scaling and details optimize playback and etc.
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Well, I'm using the Jodix Free iPod converter for files that are just AVI's and whatnot, but for DVD rips I'm using CloneDVD mobile. I'm running both with a bitrate of around 450Kb for video and I *think* 128Kb for audio, if I recall. Both seem to want to do audio only in AAC, though, but I'm not sure if that's related. I have my Wizard at 252Mhz right now with the same cruddy results. I may have to try a lower bitrate, I suppose
Podcasts....
I have tried mightly to get the iPod version of the GeekBrief podcast(and others) to work on my Wizard. However, all attempts have met with the same results as you are seeing. I am now firmly of the opinion that the Wizard cannot match the iPod's specialize hardware, and that using autosettings in conversion programs will always yield these results.
Conclusion: Find settings that work on your Wizard (the common denominator) and use those to encode for both devices.
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I have tried mightly to get the iPod version of the GeekBrief podcast(and others) to work on my Wizard. However, all attempts have met with the same results as you are seeing. I am now firmly of the opinion that the Wizard cannot match the iPod's specialize hardware, and that using autosettings in conversion programs will always yield these results.
Conclusion: Find settings that work on your Wizard (the common denominator) and use those to encode for both devices.
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Thanks, I'll give that a try. With any luck I can find settings that both work on the Wizard *and* don't look like complete ass on the iPod . I'll report my figurings back here on the off chance anyone else is crazy enough to try such a ridiculous stunt in the future, LOL.
Jason
I've set my Coreplayer up as per the posts elsewhere in the Athena threads and the video quality is almost perfect now.
I'm using 320x240, DivX 6, 500-700KBps constant bitrate files.
Stereo MP3 audio. 96kbps or 128kbps.
After 10 mins of playback the audio slowly starts to lose sync (it plays fine on my PC).
Has anyone got any ideas what I need to do to stop the audio from losing sync?
Any help greatly appreciated.
hi
when you say "outof sync", does this mean that the audio is fine but the video is not "in time"? if yes, that's exactly what i was going to ask in the forum =) but i'll be trying the parameters you set. i've been meaning to ask the "optimized" setting for this application.
cheers
Robson said:
hi
when you say "outof sync", does this mean that the audio is fine but the video is not "in time"? if yes, that's exactly what i was going to ask in the forum =) but i'll be trying the parameters you set. i've been meaning to ask the "optimized" setting for this application.
cheers
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Yep, that's exactly it. It starts off fine, then ever so slowly the video gets ahead of the audio.
I've 'fiddled' with just about every setting I can think of within Coreplayer but have yet to find a solution.
Yep, that's exactly it. It starts off fine, then ever so slowly the video gets ahead of the audio.
I've 'fiddled' with just about every setting I can think of within Coreplayer but have yet to find a solution.[/QUOTE]
well, at least your video gets ahead. for me it's the other way around...the video is late yet the audio sounds perfect =)
cheers
ive already asked this question. with no replys. ive tried every setting and format possible. still loses sync. it doesnt matter if its from the sd card micro drive or streaming. it still loses sync. ive even tryed disabling the auto scaler and running tcpmp over clocked. still loses sync. im a a loss. if you find a solution let me know.
I guess we need to wait for the next version of Coreplayer which will (hopefully) be released on the 18th of June. It supposedly fixes some of the ATI issues.
I am so sick to death of this subject!! Not mad at you guys, but at ATI/AMD. This has been an ongoing issue since September last year when the TyTN was released with the ATI Imageon chip, and due to no input or support from ATI/AMD, Corecodec cannot fix this issue as it's to to with the Imageon hardware.
Bottom line is find the settings that work best for you. For me, I find TCPMP v0.72RC more stable and versatile than CorePlayer v1.04. Also set Video driver as Imageon (NOT Imageon decoder!) this yields best performance and visual quality 'during' playback.
If you're using DVD-Rips use the above setting, but if your playing/stretching QVGA 320x240 on your Athena, then Rawframebuffer mode is even more stable in the GUI, but lacks the ooomph of the Imageon driver, which to some extent might well eradicate your lipsync issues.
One more test folks. Play your video whilst your Athena is pluggen in to mains power. See if the lipsync is still out. If it is make manual adjustments in the A/V offset in TCPMP under Advanced.
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I am so sick to death of this subject!! Not mad at you guys, but at ATI/AMD. This has been an ongoing issue since September last year when the TyTN was released with the ATI Imageon chip, and due to no input or support from ATI/AMD, Corecodec cannot fix this issue as it's to to with the Imageon hardware.
Bottom line is find the settings that work best for you. For me, I find TCPMP v0.72RC more stable and versatile than CorePlayer v1.04. Also set Video driver as Imageon (NOT Imageon decoder!) this yields best performance and visual quality 'during' playback.
If you're using DVD-Rips use the above setting, but if your playing/stretching QVGA 320x240 on your Athena, then Rawframebuffer mode is even more stable in the GUI, but lacks the ooomph of the Imageon driver, which to some extent might well eradicate your lipsync issues.
One more test folks. Play your video whilst your Athena is pluggen in to mains power. See if the lipsync is still out. If it is make manual adjustments in the A/V offset in TCPMP under Advanced.
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Rgr that - will test later - thanks!
Ive got the exact same problem on my x7510 i start playing it and slowly the video will go ahead of the audio and its out of sync very easy to detect when your viewing a lecture. ive tried all kind of video players
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Ive got the exact same problem on my x7510 i start playing it and slowly the video will go ahead of the audio and its out of sync very easy to detect when your viewing a lecture. ive tried all kind of video players
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How cam that you can use it.
I'v tried 0.72 version as well as 0.81 and both give me the "crash.txt" error while starting TCPMP.
Oh, you are using CorePlayer not TCPMP, right?
im using coreplayer the latest version becuase tmcp as you said keeps on crashing, (for me too).
With a hard reset playing even a video in windows media player still gives a audio lag. Its so bad, now i don't care about quility just let me have a video with audio i don't care how bad the video looks like.
Does anyone have any solution? ive tried all kinds of "video output" settings and it still gives audio lag (even raw framebuffer)
FINALLY! ah found it after lots of searching of google and forums and sites...
its -400ms and its perfect thought the whole video..
(Note: the best method that i use to see if its in sync is to watch a lecture and then watch their mouth real careful and you'll see that -400ms gives the best results )
Vico100 said:
FINALLY! ah found it after lots of searching of google and forums and sites...
its -400ms and its perfect thought the whole video..
(Note: the best method that i use to see if its in sync is to watch a lecture and then watch their mouth real careful and you'll see that -400ms gives the best results )
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What is this -400Ms?
-400ms is -400 milliseconds as in time. The minus sign means "start playing the video 400 milliseconds ahead of the audio. Its perfect for core player put all the settings on max just take acceleration and dithering off. And it plays a DVD rip perfectly no conversion very sweet on its 5 inch screen
If you don't know put the -400 in the settings next to "manual A/V offset +/-" and just type in "-0.400"
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-400ms is -400 milliseconds as in time. The minus sign means "start playing the video 400 milliseconds ahead of the audio. Its perfect for core player put all the settings on max just take acceleration and dithering off. And it plays a DVD rip perfectly no conversion very sweet on its 5 inch screen
If you don't know put the -400 in the settings next to "manual A/V offset +/-" and just type in "-0.400"
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Thanks for sharing this tip!
Vico100 said:
-400ms is -400 milliseconds as in time. The minus sign means "start playing the video 400 milliseconds ahead of the audio. Its perfect for core player put all the settings on max just take acceleration and dithering off. And it plays a DVD rip perfectly no conversion very sweet on its 5 inch screen
If you don't know put the -400 in the settings next to "manual A/V offset +/-" and just type in "-0.400"
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So does this work or not???
I am confused, because on the other thread, you mentioned it did not work.
it does for like 5-10 minutes then audio gets our of sync
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it does for like 5-10 minutes then audio gets our of sync
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Thank you for this information.
Vico100 said:
im using coreplayer the latest version becuase tmcp as you said keeps on crashing, (for me too).
With a hard reset playing even a video in windows media player still gives a audio lag. Its so bad, now i don't care about quility just let me have a video with audio i don't care how bad the video looks like.
Does anyone have any solution? ive tried all kinds of "video output" settings and it still gives audio lag (even raw framebuffer)
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Does it play flv files as well?
Tadeusz said:
Does it play flv files as well?
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Coreplayer plays flv files, yes. There's no need to separately install additional component. It benchmarks better than TCPMP in my test.
Good afternoon!
I have the following problem: performance of my screen graphics while in full screen (ie movie, games) is rather slow. I have CorePlayer installed and it has a major FPS drop when there is a fast picture change in a movie. I've increased alot buffer allocation and put some settings that could ease the situation. I should note, that it happens only to movies that are not encoded before transferring to phone (they remain as is).
Also, I am unable to use QTv option as it gives me sound output only and my screen remains black.
Experience pretty slow graphics in games too.
If you could help me a bit with this problem, I would really appreciate it!
ROM: R2AA008 UK, but had same problem with previous version (R1AA017).
Raux said:
Good afternoon!
I have the following problem: performance of my screen graphics while in full screen (ie movie, games) is rather slow. I have CorePlayer installed and it has a major FPS drop when there is a fast picture change in a movie. I've increased alot buffer allocation and put some settings that could ease the situation. I should note, that it happens only to movies that are not encoded before transferring to phone (they remain as is).
Also, I am unable to use QTv option as it gives me sound output only and my screen remains black.
Experience pretty slow graphics in games too.
If you could help me a bit with this problem, I would really appreciate it!
ROM: R2AA008 UK, but had same problem with previous version (R1AA017).
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Good Afternoon,
please make sure you read one of the many many threads on this!
coreplayer DOES NOT support hardware playback on our devices at the current time..
Thank you for your reply.
I did a research already and all I found was that there is expected to be "better" support of QTv in v 2.0 of coreplayer. I assume better means that it is still working on current version.
Anyway, QTv is just a mere problem. The main problem when using any other type of video drawing, ie DD.
Also, I did not find much information about having slow graphics on X1. All I found were tweaks (some of which I have applied) and general performance issues, which I don't have.
If you would be so kind to address me to the right topic where the solution/discussion was mentioned, I'd appreciate it.
Best playback now is to convert the video into mp4 using HTC HD convertor (easy to find here) .. and then to play it in media panel or WMP. You can play movies in 800x480 totally smooth like that.
Second option is to use Core Player 1.3 with qTV .. but you will rarely find movie which will play at 100% with no conversion. Anyway CorePlayer is lot slower, which is easy to compare if you let it play those mp4 which play great in WMP.
Then there is TCPMP .. but that will hardly play anything any good.
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Thank you for your reply.
I did a research already and all I found was that there is expected to be "better" support of QTv in v 2.0 of coreplayer. I assume better means that it is still working on current version.
Anyway, QTv is just a mere problem. The main problem when using any other type of video drawing, ie DD.
Also, I did not find much information about having slow graphics on X1. All I found were tweaks (some of which I have applied) and general performance issues, which I don't have.
If you would be so kind to address me to the right topic where the solution/discussion was mentioned, I'd appreciate it.
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scroll down or press page 2 (or maybe even page 3 as repeated threads like these push everything back) and you'll see there's at least two threads started by nawfalah, from the last week.
Managed to enable QTv support without decoding.
Thanks for your replies fards, Dr.Sid.
Still give it a try. It's really much better with conversion.
i use itje's touch-it 3.5 rom and im using coreplayer and i havent converted a dvd-resolution movie and it runs buttery smooth on my x1. its file type is .avi
Im starting to get the feeling my phone never came with it. I can't find it anywhere.. does anyone know where it should be? Even a directory location would be helpful but i've searched the phone from top to bottom looking for it
coreplayer is not included software for htc hd2 (as far as i know)
Its not included, you can get it from http://coreplayer.com/
While I get 158% on benchmark and it plays really smoothly (in the benchmark) it then judders and is useless when not in benchmark mode, so I wouldn't bother with it...
I am having problems installing Coreplayer. Running the purchased pocketpc cab file it tells me my hardware isn't supported. I have been in touch with Coreplayer (who take at least 24 hours to respond) and all they can tell me is I need to use the pocketpc version, this is what I am using. I've paid for this and it won't run on my phone even after factory resetting, I'm getting frustrated now after 3 days of trying.
Has anybody else had problems? Are there any possible solutions such that I can install it?
Any help gratefully received
Ah cheers guys. I hate video reviews that show apps and claim that they come with the phone lol. Yeah i'm not reading great things about it though so I deffo wont be purchasing it.
It's working just fine with me, make sure you set GDI as video output.
Coreplayer works fine on mine... although it doesnt rotate or follow the GUI like it used to on my omnia.
This seems to be a failing throughout the interface... the rotation doesnt follow the device.
Is there any way to fix this
GG
Direct Draw seems better than GDI on mine, wierd
Coreplayer installs and works fine, however i am unable to enable A2DP functionality with with my headset. It recognises volume control but not pause, Forward or backward.
However i think this is a device issue, as i've tried installing S2P and it does exactly the same thing!
Anyone have any ideas?
I have the feeling that the image quality on HD with QTV enabled on Coreplayer is better when playing the same file on HD2 with GDI or RAW FB.
Anybody can confirm ?
I just found this thread and wanted to thank tnyynt as I had been using Coreplayer with the default DirectDraw setting and the playback wasn't so great but changed to GDI and it surpasses my Archos 5 IMT. Top stuff.
So GDI is better than DirectDraw ? haven't noticed any difference, at least for me. Although GDI takes advantage of hardware acceleration at some points.
In scenes where the camera was panning sideways with Directdraw you could see the image kind of wobble as it redrew the picture from top to bottom but with GDI selected this no longer happens. Much smoother playback of XviD's for me.
Can you guys please post details of the verions of Coreplayer you are using?
I ask I was 'acquired' a copy of v1.3.2 to test and it seemed fine. I then went and purchased a copy (latest - v1.13.6) however on installing this it seems dreadful no matter what settings I used.
Not sure if this is something to do with me uninstalling one version then installing another, or a ROM upgrade etc, however just wanted to check.
Cheers, Simon
CorePlayer v1.3.6 on HD2 only 50% qality rending any video !!!
The video image quality on HD2 with CorePlayer v1.3.6 GDI or RAW is lower with 50% !!! When playing the same file on HD2 with HTCvideoPlayer video image is the best !!!
Hi all,
Looking to use a HD2 to watch xvids / divx's while on the train. Realise this will (most probably) kill the battery etc. but in some situations (when there's a power source at destination!) it seems a good way to kill time to me.
Any recommendations on the best player for such? Previously I've heard good things about Coreplayer.. although it seems not to be so good on this platform? Alternatives?
Thanks in advance.
Basically, if you want support for as many formats as possible, Coreplayer and TCPMP are the way to go. Coreplayer pefroms fine on HD2, even without supporting the graphics card capabilities, merely because of the powerful processor. About the only real-life limitation I've encountered with it is lack of AC3 sound support. For AC3 you can use TCPMP. Its UI is ugly as hell (in fact it's so ugly that I personally prefer not to watch movies with AC3 sound at all) but it does the job.
if you go for coreplayer be sure to set it to GDI and smooth zoom in video settings to get the best possible result
strange one that because i would recommend raw frame buffer!
probably depends on what media you're using?
Both settings will work.... but that also depends on your content. Best practice for the HD2 (and in general) is to do benchmarks on that content with each video output setting (GDI Vs. Raw Framebuffer) to see what works best.
Just an extra footnote, I'd recommend searching for TCPMP version 0.71, as the later v0.72 (both RC versions) wouldn't even run for me!
I use TCPMP to watch films on train journeys, and can get a couple of films watched and use about 60% of the battery. So yeah, it's a drain, but not too bad.
SimonW500 said:
Hi all,
Looking to use a HD2 to watch xvids / divx's while on the train. Realise this will (most probably) kill the battery etc. but in some situations (when there's a power source at destination!) it seems a good way to kill time to me.
Any recommendations on the best player for such? Previously I've heard good things about Coreplayer.. although it seems not to be so good on this platform? Alternatives?
Thanks in advance.
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Divx Player Mobile
http://labs.divx.com/MobileCommunity
Hopefully this thread will work and not trying to hijack.... I've tried the included WMP and CorePlayer and cannot for the life of me get any video to playback on my HD2. I've tried stock xvid, wmv, etc. The closest i've come is sound but no video. What's the trick????
In CorePlayer, go to Menu - Tools - Preferences - Select Page - Video. Change Video output to GDI, Raw Framebuffer or DirectDraw (I'm not sure which setting will yield best results, but you need to disable Qtv, it doesn't work).
1.48 ROM?
Thanks for all the above advice!
I had Coreplayer working fine, playing two Xvids I had on the storage card well with either settings.
I've now upgraded to the 1.48 ROM however playback now seems to be stuttering badly (same two files). Might be just one of those things as I've messed around a little with install apps etc, so need to do a hard reset this evening and give it another try, however yup just want someone else to confirm this by saying they are having good success with playback via Coreplayer on 1.48 ROM..?
Cheers.
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if you go for coreplayer be sure to set it to GDI and smooth zoom in video settings to get the best possible result
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Re. the above - are these the only 'optimum' settings I need to go for? (withstanding the debate over GDI vs. raw etc). For smooth zoom should this be On or 50%? Anything else?