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Camera Fix for the HD

I searched for a camera fix for the HD camera with no success. Does anyone know if there's going to be a fix in the near future? I'm sure that ya'll have the same problem that I do. Camera takes pictures that look old & rustic. Brownish tint to them & not very sharp for a 5 MP camera. I have adjusted all the settings for light & junk but nothing fixes it. As far as I'm concerned, it should take pictures IDENTICAL to a normal 5 MP digital camera. I can promise you that it's not doing that. Any help would be great, thanks in advance.

Vampire2800 said:
I searched for a camera fix for the HD camera with no success. Does anyone know if there's going to be a fix in the near future? I'm sure that ya'll have the same problem that I do. Camera takes pictures that look old & rustic. Brownish tint to them & not very sharp for a 5 MP camera. I have adjusted all the settings for light & junk but nothing fixes it. As far as I'm concerned, it should take pictures IDENTICAL to a normal 5 MP digital camera. I can promise you that it's not doing that. Any help would be great, thanks in advance.
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Why should it take pictures identical to a 5MP camera. The lens on the front is going to be vastly different, the sensor maybe 5MP, but what is the spacing on the sensor pixels? The closer together, the noisier the image. Colour balance will be down to the sensor too.
Regards

I'm not talking about the front camera. The normal camera on the back. I understand about the pixel thing, but it still shouldn't be so brownish, right? The pictures look like an old Polaroid picture. You know, the one's that spit the picture out as soon as you took it. Old, brown & nasty looking.

My pictures come out fine...

Hmmmmmmm...................... I'll just keep playing with it.

Vampire2800 said:
I'm not talking about the front camera. The normal camera on the back. I understand about the pixel thing, but it still shouldn't be so brownish, right? The pictures look like an old Polaroid picture. You know, the one's that spit the picture out as soon as you took it. Old, brown & nasty looking.
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I'm not being flippant, but is it possible you might have a dirty lens?

Lol, that was the first thing I tried. Cleaned both sides of the back cover & cleaned the lens on the camera. Good idea, though.

The "5mp" doesn't really mean much, as stated earlier, if the sensor and lens are poor quality. As far as I know, HTC haven't released a phone with a reasonable quality camera, yet.
I bounce between different smart-phones (just coming back to WM now, after a year with S60). I can say that many of the S60 devices (in particular the Nokia N95, but also the N82 with Xenon flash) have very good cameras, being similar to low-end digital cameras in daylight. They lack optical zoom and tend to over-compress images, but have good quality lenses.

imho hd camera is excelent
pictures look old & rustic only if you make them inside house without using the artificial light setting, and this is also a general rule, not specific to HD.

Never seen a good phone camera yet, including the latest 8mpixel ones. They're all terrible.

Never
This camera will NEVER take pictures anywhere near what real cameras do. The photo sites are so tiny, they are smaller then the length of waive of light. Therefore noise, lack of dynamic width, etc. No patch will ever fix that. Sorry

open back cover , clean the lens , you will see a huge difference in quality

Vampire2800 said:
Lol, that was the first thing I tried. Cleaned both sides of the back cover & cleaned the lens on the camera. Good idea, though.
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Not that I'm doubting you or anything but you do realize that the back cover only has a hole through to the lens?
You might try setting the brightness higher:
If you touch the small rectangle near the bottom right side of the screen (when holding landscape)
Then select the gear symbol, then select brightness from the menu and hit the "+" until it looks better that will remove most of the darkness.

The camera is a plain disappointment. In the time the camera autofocusses, I could have bought a Sony Ericsson C905's, create a good looking photo (with xenon flash) and upload it to imageshack.
If 'your object' makes the slightest move, your photo will be blurry . This is also the case when you attempt to make a photo of someone that isn't aware he or she has to be waiting for the autofocus lag. Head moves >>> blurry pic.
iPhone camera shots are way better quality, don't ask me why. Overall my Touch HD scores 8/10, where atleast 1 full point is taken up by the camera

and it's better don't speak about the very laggy video recording

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iPhone camera shots are way better quality, don't ask me why.
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Too many megapixels on a tiny sensor = major noise problem = blurring from denoise.
Even 2mpixels is too much for sensors this size, but people buy on marketing numbers of megapixels, not quality. You can just imagine the whining that would occur if the Touch HD came out with 1.3mpxiels, even though it would produce better pictures.

arfster said:
Too many megapixels on a tiny sensor = major noise problem = blurring from denoise.
Even 2mpixels is too much for sensors this size, but people buy on marketing numbers of megapixels, not quality. You can just imagine the whining that would occur if the Touch HD came out with 1.3mpxiels, even though it would produce better pictures.
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hehe, thats true.
mpixels dont count as much as the general public belives. the more mpix. the higher rezolution you can print the picture in. but for ordinary photos, 1.3 mpix would be enough, as long as the optics is good.

Personally, I rarely use a phone camera.
I use either my Olympus 720SW or Canon EOS.
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the camera sucks **** compared to the n95 and the video recording is horrid. i know it's not meant to be as good as a dedicated camera but this is pretty bad given the price of the device.
i concur with mach03, move the camera a slight bit and eveyrthing gets blurred. one way i've semi gotten aorund this is to unlock the burst functiona nd take a sequence of pics and hope one or two coems out alright, not the most economic way to do it though...
i would ahve thought that maybe there's a way to tweak the camera to stop the blurring or even affect how much light is picked up by the lens which should also help with clarity

Vampire2800 said:
I'm not talking about the front camera. The normal camera on the back. I understand about the pixel thing, but it still shouldn't be so brownish, right? The pictures look like an old Polaroid picture. You know, the one's that spit the picture out as soon as you took it. Old, brown & nasty looking.
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A silly idea, but seriously, did you check if maybe, just maybe, you left the "sepia" effect turned on???

Poor quality front camera

I noticed that my new TD2 has a very poor quality of the front camera compared to the D1. I don't know if it's faulty, but it looks like digital zoomed, even if settings are superfine and L size.

zooster said:
I noticed that my new TD2 has a very poor quality of the front camera compared to the D1. I don't know if it's faulty, but it looks like digital zoomed, even if settings are superfine and L size.
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It's just a crap camera... that's all. You wouldn't need a better resolution for video calling anyway. If you really need to make loads of self portraits, then rather find a friend.

AceofSpades25 said:
It's just a crap camera... that's all. You wouldn't need a better resolution for video calling anyway. If you really need to make loads of self portraits, then rather find a friend.
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LOL !!
But I think that the back 5mpx camera is crappy too... (compared with my old Nokia N95 classic).
If the ambient light isn't PERFECT, the camera is useless...

Front camera is a VGA (640x480) CMOS unit with no zoom capabilities; It will look blocky on almost any screen nowerdays (It's even lower resolution than the screen on the phone itself). As for the rear camera being worse than the N95 classic, the N95 was fitted with Carl Zeiss optics; Specialist lenses for cameras, and fairly good quality considering the market. It was (and still is) a very good camera phone. HTC cameras are *notoriously* bad. Autofocus is great, but no use without a decent CCD and optics. Heavy blurring under motion and poor ambient light handling are typical issues. The trouble is that HTC don't make camera phones, they make PDAs with camera and phone capabilities. Still, it's better than the iPhone...
If you want a decent camera above all else, send your phone back and get either a Pixon or any SE phone / Nokia N series handset.

DeathJester said:
Front camera is a VGA (640x480) CMOS unit with no zoom capabilities; It will look blocky on almost any screen nowerdays (It's even lower resolution than the screen on the phone itself). As for the rear camera being worse than the N95 classic, the N95 was fitted with Carl Zeiss optics; Specialist lenses for cameras, and fairly good quality considering the market. It was (and still is) a very good camera phone. HTC cameras are *notoriously* bad. Autofocus is great, but no use without a decent CCD and optics. Heavy blurring under motion and poor ambient light handling are typical issues. The trouble is that HTC don't make camera phones, they make PDAs with camera and phone capabilities. Still, it's better than the iPhone...
If you want a decent camera above all else, send your phone back and get either a Pixon or any SE phone / Nokia N series handset.
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OK I know that... but why make a phone with *5mpx* camera with crappy lens ? Why don't make 3.2mpx camera with good lens ? Just marketing ?
And I`ll pay some extra 20$ for some LED flash too

Wait.. I said so 'cause the front camer on Diamond 1 was waaaay better!
This one looks ugly, dark, pixelated and zoomed. Just sh**ty!
I was supposing that it's kinda faulty. I would try how it is after a rom upgrade... atm still stick to the rom in signature.

Relpacement camera app?

Ok so its fairly obvious that the camera bites. Is there a decent app on the market which can take nicer pics?

htc camera's always been like this, even if there's an app, i think you will be better of getting to know the limitations, and get used to manually specify the settings, this way you can really get some decent shots with it. the main purpose of a camera in a phone isn't to replace camera's at all, it's a way of having a way of the ability to quickly take a snapshot when you forgot your camera.
learn to hold your hands still, the best thing to do with a HTC phone if you use the camera
and for the app, search the market in the free section, you can always try them out to see if one suite's you

dr.m0x said:
Ok so its fairly obvious that the camera bites. Is there a decent app on the market which can take nicer pics?
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I have to agree when it comes to using the flash the pics are cap all yellow and washed out. It's like the timing is off or the auto white balance is not changing to flash.
A toy camera out of a Christmas cracker could do better.
Example of flash pic
twitpic.com/34l2mp

it seems your camera didn't even focus on that event, the yellow glow can also be caused by a street light nearby? if street light was nearby it uses the flash to fill in the photo, and leaves the shutter open to receive the lighting as it is, so the faces don't shine etc. otherwise the timing and or white balance is of, or even possibly be a smudge on the flash or lens? finger near the flash unit could also cause this.

I took about 10 pics all look the same I ended up using my old n97 which took a perfect pic.
you still get the yellow from the flash indoors aswell and I tried all the white balance setting none look right with the flash.
If no one else is finding this maybe I have a bum phone.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

So dose anyone else het pics as bad as me with the flash or should I take my phone back?

dr.m0x said:
Ok so its fairly obvious that the camera bites.
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ok so its fairly obvious that this guy is rude and obnoxious and doesnt mind insulting a product we all paid a serious amount of money for.
I am a professional photographer specialising in weddings for over 12 years and the camera is perfectly adequate for a phone.

panyan said:
ok so its fairly obvious that this guy is rude and obnoxious and doesnt mind insulting a product we all paid a serious amount of money for.
I am a professional photographer specialising in weddings for over 12 years and the camera is perfectly adequate for a phone.
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I would say it depends what you are comparing it to. It rubbish compared to a good camera phone like the N86 or N97 but ok compared to the iphone. So if you have only had bad camera phones I guess that's why you may think it ok.

panyan said:
ok so its fairly obvious that this guy is rude and obnoxious and doesnt mind insulting a product we all paid a serious amount of money for.
I am a professional photographer specialising in weddings for over 12 years and the camera is perfectly adequate for a phone.
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my old nokia n95 camera thats 5 years old takes better photos, though ive found it does take nice close ups, SGS camera is perfectly adequate though

@jeffmason : have you tried setting the flash to 'on' instead of 'auto', mine takes blurry night photos too unless the flash is set to always on.

Galaxy S5 macro photography problem - plz help

Hi,
I want to capture small objects like small flowers, bees, insects and pests but cant get the Samsung Galaxy S5 to focus on anything close. My S3 had a button for Macro Photography. I don't see this option and when I tap to focus, it tries but it acts like it's too close and fails. It looks like it will focus on the close object for like a second, then it zooms back out.
I have tried to turn off auto focus and stabilization but the result is same.
What should i do now to fix it?
Or maybe any third party app can do it?

Make sure "Selective Focus" option is disabled. This automatically turns on macros, although you don't see an actual macros on/off toggle, but I'm able to take pictures in focus in 2.5-3 inches distance from the lens, which is technically the "macro range"

Commodore 64 said:
Make sure "Selective Focus" option is disabled. This automatically turns on macros, although you don't see an actual macros on/off toggle, but I'm able to take pictures in focus in 2.5-3 inches distance from the lens, which is technically the "macro range"
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it tries but it acts like it's too close and fails. It looks like it will focus on the close object for like a second, then it zooms back out.
I have tried to turn off auto focus and stabilization but the result is same.
Can u share some pics of small objects u captured?
Thanks

There is a limit to how close you can get with the S5 camera, as the lens is static, no moving parts to focus really
The S5 does like lots of light though, so you'll get much better results if the subject is very brightly lit, and it will focus much better with more light
Don't expect miracles like a DSLR can do though, but you can get some pretty great shots

*Detection* said:
There is a limit to how close you can get with the S5 camera, as the lens is static, no moving parts to focus really
The S5 does like lots of light though, so you'll get much better results if the subject is very brightly lit, and it will focus much better with more light
Don't expect miracles like a DSLR can do though, but you can get some pretty great shots
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Then i need to get s3 coz i 've experienced good macro photography with it.
Thanks

Is there any way to make the 6P's camera focus on close objects?

Hi,
So I tend to take a lot of super close up pics, mostly of different small computer parts and it's really annoying that the Nexus 6P cannot focus on close objects.
Is there any possible way to make it focus on close objects, any possible way is fine with me.

Use a camera app that has macro focus?

I've actually been wondering this as well.
velveteen71 said:
Use a camera app that has macro focus?
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Do you have any suggestions?

seboj said:
I've actually been wondering this as well.
Do you have any suggestions?
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I don't use this app myself, but I've read this app has the possibility: HD Camera Pro .

i have the same gripe, but i have come to find out that the camera doesnt really have to be sooo close to the subject to take good pics.
use MANUAL CAMERA, it allows you to adjust focus manually to macro... and u will see that the minimum working distance is about 4-5 inches away

I've used Manual Camera as well for macro shots, seems to work pretty good.

swallowingled said:
I've used Manual Camera as well for macro shots, seems to work pretty good.
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chaco81 said:
i have the same gripe, but i have come to find out that the camera doesnt really have to be sooo close to the subject to take good pics.
use MANUAL CAMERA, it allows you to adjust focus manually to macro... and u will see that the minimum working distance is about 4-5 inches away
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That's nice to know, but which settings to modify for macro shots?

Not a software solution, but you can buy on ebay for a few bucks macro lens. I have played with it a little bit, and the results are excellent. And since you are working with computer parts, if you have nearby old CD/DVD drive, try to pull out lens from it. You will be amazed with result (but it will give you blur effect on everything that is not in the center of the image, opposite to macro lens where everything is clear).

srdjannj said:
Not a software solution, but you can buy on ebay for a few bucks macro lens. I have played with it a little bit, and the results are excellent. And since you are working with computer parts, if you have nearby old CD/DVD drive, try to pull out lens from it. You will be amazed with result (but it will give you blur effect on everything that is not in the center of the image, opposite to macro lens where everything is clear).
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Wow, thanks, I do have a couple of old DvD drives lying around, I will give it a shot.

[email protected] said:
Wow, thanks, I do have a couple of old DvD drives lying around, I will give it a shot.
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cool macro lense i used to have was the outer lense of a disposable camera
u opened it, cut the lense with some plastic from the front housing and used it
now that i have a 3d printer, i would venture to print a holder for one of them... guess i gotta go get another disposable camera