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I searched for a camera fix for the HD camera with no success. Does anyone know if there's going to be a fix in the near future? I'm sure that ya'll have the same problem that I do. Camera takes pictures that look old & rustic. Brownish tint to them & not very sharp for a 5 MP camera. I have adjusted all the settings for light & junk but nothing fixes it. As far as I'm concerned, it should take pictures IDENTICAL to a normal 5 MP digital camera. I can promise you that it's not doing that. Any help would be great, thanks in advance.
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I searched for a camera fix for the HD camera with no success. Does anyone know if there's going to be a fix in the near future? I'm sure that ya'll have the same problem that I do. Camera takes pictures that look old & rustic. Brownish tint to them & not very sharp for a 5 MP camera. I have adjusted all the settings for light & junk but nothing fixes it. As far as I'm concerned, it should take pictures IDENTICAL to a normal 5 MP digital camera. I can promise you that it's not doing that. Any help would be great, thanks in advance.
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Why should it take pictures identical to a 5MP camera. The lens on the front is going to be vastly different, the sensor maybe 5MP, but what is the spacing on the sensor pixels? The closer together, the noisier the image. Colour balance will be down to the sensor too.
Regards
I'm not talking about the front camera. The normal camera on the back. I understand about the pixel thing, but it still shouldn't be so brownish, right? The pictures look like an old Polaroid picture. You know, the one's that spit the picture out as soon as you took it. Old, brown & nasty looking.
My pictures come out fine...
Hmmmmmmm...................... I'll just keep playing with it.
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I'm not talking about the front camera. The normal camera on the back. I understand about the pixel thing, but it still shouldn't be so brownish, right? The pictures look like an old Polaroid picture. You know, the one's that spit the picture out as soon as you took it. Old, brown & nasty looking.
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I'm not being flippant, but is it possible you might have a dirty lens?
Lol, that was the first thing I tried. Cleaned both sides of the back cover & cleaned the lens on the camera. Good idea, though.
The "5mp" doesn't really mean much, as stated earlier, if the sensor and lens are poor quality. As far as I know, HTC haven't released a phone with a reasonable quality camera, yet.
I bounce between different smart-phones (just coming back to WM now, after a year with S60). I can say that many of the S60 devices (in particular the Nokia N95, but also the N82 with Xenon flash) have very good cameras, being similar to low-end digital cameras in daylight. They lack optical zoom and tend to over-compress images, but have good quality lenses.
imho hd camera is excelent
pictures look old & rustic only if you make them inside house without using the artificial light setting, and this is also a general rule, not specific to HD.
Never seen a good phone camera yet, including the latest 8mpixel ones. They're all terrible.
Never
This camera will NEVER take pictures anywhere near what real cameras do. The photo sites are so tiny, they are smaller then the length of waive of light. Therefore noise, lack of dynamic width, etc. No patch will ever fix that. Sorry
open back cover , clean the lens , you will see a huge difference in quality
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Lol, that was the first thing I tried. Cleaned both sides of the back cover & cleaned the lens on the camera. Good idea, though.
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Not that I'm doubting you or anything but you do realize that the back cover only has a hole through to the lens?
You might try setting the brightness higher:
If you touch the small rectangle near the bottom right side of the screen (when holding landscape)
Then select the gear symbol, then select brightness from the menu and hit the "+" until it looks better that will remove most of the darkness.
The camera is a plain disappointment. In the time the camera autofocusses, I could have bought a Sony Ericsson C905's, create a good looking photo (with xenon flash) and upload it to imageshack.
If 'your object' makes the slightest move, your photo will be blurry . This is also the case when you attempt to make a photo of someone that isn't aware he or she has to be waiting for the autofocus lag. Head moves >>> blurry pic.
iPhone camera shots are way better quality, don't ask me why. Overall my Touch HD scores 8/10, where atleast 1 full point is taken up by the camera
and it's better don't speak about the very laggy video recording
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iPhone camera shots are way better quality, don't ask me why.
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Too many megapixels on a tiny sensor = major noise problem = blurring from denoise.
Even 2mpixels is too much for sensors this size, but people buy on marketing numbers of megapixels, not quality. You can just imagine the whining that would occur if the Touch HD came out with 1.3mpxiels, even though it would produce better pictures.
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Too many megapixels on a tiny sensor = major noise problem = blurring from denoise.
Even 2mpixels is too much for sensors this size, but people buy on marketing numbers of megapixels, not quality. You can just imagine the whining that would occur if the Touch HD came out with 1.3mpxiels, even though it would produce better pictures.
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hehe, thats true.
mpixels dont count as much as the general public belives. the more mpix. the higher rezolution you can print the picture in. but for ordinary photos, 1.3 mpix would be enough, as long as the optics is good.
Personally, I rarely use a phone camera.
I use either my Olympus 720SW or Canon EOS.
the camera sucks **** compared to the n95 and the video recording is horrid. i know it's not meant to be as good as a dedicated camera but this is pretty bad given the price of the device.
i concur with mach03, move the camera a slight bit and eveyrthing gets blurred. one way i've semi gotten aorund this is to unlock the burst functiona nd take a sequence of pics and hope one or two coems out alright, not the most economic way to do it though...
i would ahve thought that maybe there's a way to tweak the camera to stop the blurring or even affect how much light is picked up by the lens which should also help with clarity
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I'm not talking about the front camera. The normal camera on the back. I understand about the pixel thing, but it still shouldn't be so brownish, right? The pictures look like an old Polaroid picture. You know, the one's that spit the picture out as soon as you took it. Old, brown & nasty looking.
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A silly idea, but seriously, did you check if maybe, just maybe, you left the "sepia" effect turned on???
hi, all dear hd2 users,
In that 'Weird camera colour balance?' thread, some guys are still not convinced that their cameras have the pink problem. For me, I had also thought I am the lucky one who don't have the defect until today.
first thing to remember, do not use flash, because the strong light could make all the pics very white without pink spots;
2, take a clean white paper;
3, take several pictures of a clean white paper;
4, put them in a folder in your pc;
5, then display them in thumbnails.
you will see how obvious the pink spots in the centre are!
don't use the pictures of colourful scenes to do this experiment because they could cover the pink and easily cheat our naked eyes!
attached are some of my pics with pink spot, the bluish one is even with flash.
and one very important thing, don't forget to reply this post to tell me the results!
Cheers!
I dont have the time to do the pictures but you're definitely right, I didnt think I got it but I actually do.
Hope they get this and all the other problems fixed soon.
Its a hardware fault, you need to send your phone back, software will never fix it.
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Its a hardware fault, you need to send your phone back, software will never fix it.
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no it isnt, that has been discussed, there is a long thread abtou this already. t was determined 100% to be software. I would post the existing thread but i dont feel like going to search for it Trust me, its there
Hopefully it is really software issue.
I don`t think i have the issue, but god lets hope its not.
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I don`t think i have the issue, but god lets hope its not.
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i didn`t think too, i tryied that and i have something... but it is not so bad... so i`m okay
I posted on the previous thread that I do not have the problem. I've used the camera a lot of times and never seen this pink blobby-blur thing in the middle of the picture.
On the other hand, I do not spend hours taking pictures of pieces of white paper, or white walls, so I'm not fussed. As it states in the main post of this thread, "don't use the pictures of colourful scenes to do this experiment because they could cover the pink and easily cheat our naked eyes!"
That to me says you don't see this problem unless you go looking for it. Okay, the colour may be slightly off if your phone IS displaying this fault, but if you can't see it with a colour picture, who the hell cares?
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I posted on the previous thread that I do not have the problem. I've used the camera a lot of times and never seen this pink blobby-blur thing in the middle of the picture.
On the other hand, I do not spend hours taking pictures of pieces of white paper, or white walls, so I'm not fussed. As it states in the main post of this thread, "don't use the pictures of colourful scenes to do this experiment because they could cover the pink and easily cheat our naked eyes!"
That to me says you don't see this problem unless you go looking for it. Okay, the colour may be slightly off if your phone IS displaying this fault, but if you can't see it with a colour picture, who the hell cares?
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^^^ THIS ^^^
I did the above experiment and can see the pink hue when taking pictures of a white piece of paper, but as johncmolyneux says it's not really an issue in normal use. Any camera with a small fixed lens is not going to give the best pictures and is no substitute for a dedicated digital camera with a much larger optical focus lens, especially when taking pictures close-up of a high contrast object. If HTC had fitted a larger lens with optical zoom then this camera would be a far chunkier device and not not to carry around in your pocket as a great all-round communication system.
I never intended the HD2 to replace my compact digital camera anyway, so for, me this isn't a real problem.
I think we will find that the pink tinge problem is hardware related, some digital cameras can suffer from what is called a hot spot. The problem usually only shows up when trying to take an IR photo as its something to do with too much IR light getting through to the sensor. Its possible that the lense on the HTC has a coating problem thats letting too much IR light through to the sensor. If this is the case only replacing the lense will fix it.
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^^^ THIS ^^^
I did the above experiment and can see the pink hue when taking pictures of a white piece of paper, but as johncmolyneux says it's not really an issue in normal use. Any camera with a small fixed lens is not going to give the best pictures and is no substitute for a dedicated digital camera with a much larger optical focus lens, especially when taking pictures close-up of a high contrast object. If HTC had fitted a larger lens with optical zoom then this camera would be a far chunkier device and not not to carry around in your pocket as a great all-round communication system.
I never intended the HD2 to replace my compact digital camera anyway, so for, me this isn't a real problem.
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Well, its a big problem for me. A phone at that price, and compared to other phones, really should have a better/satisfying camera. I find it unacceptable that my old Diamond takes better pictures!
And yes, its the hardware...i just hope they will return my phone fast or simply give me a new one.
There already is a thread about this.
I suggest the two be merged if possible.
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no it isnt, that has been discussed, there is a long thread abtou this already. t was determined 100% to be software. I would post the existing thread but i dont feel like going to search for it Trust me, its there
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HTC originally said it was a hardware issue. Then they changed their minds and said it was a rare software issue. Then they changed their minds again and said it was a common software issue and that they are working on a hotfix.
I'm not convinced, to be honest: my suspicion is that it really is a hardware issue that HTC intends to try to compensate for in software, and that they're lying about it.
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I did the above experiment and can see the pink hue when taking pictures of a white piece of paper, but as johncmolyneux says it's not really an issue in normal use.
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I beg to differ: it's very obvious in normal use. It's MORE obvious when you take a picture of a white piece of paper, sure; but that's just a convenient way to test quickly for what is a universal problem.
Shasarak said:
I beg to differ: it's very obvious in normal use. It's MORE obvious when you take a picture of a white piece of paper, sure; but that's just a convenient way to test quickly for what is a universal problem.
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It's noticeable if you look for it, I personally didn't notice it till I read about the problem. I'm more inclined to believe it's a software fault as using flash when taking pictures I don't get the pink hue in the middle of the pics so it sounds like something to do with the light balancing algorithm as mentioned in the other thread.
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And yes, its the hardware...i just hope they will return my phone fast or simply give me a new one.
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Know that for sure do you, Know more than the people who made the phone? NO didnt think so
sharpey said:
Know that for sure do you, Know more than the people who made the phone? NO didnt think so
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What HTC knows and what HTC publically says aren't necessarily the same thing. Initially they said it was a hardware issue, then they changed their minds. Why? Was it because it is actually a software issue, but HTC tech support gets no information from HTC head office, had to guess, guessed wrong, and was belatedly corrected? Or was it because it's really a hardware issue, tech support knew this and announced it, and head office then suppressed the information in order to protect HTC's reputation and avoid a recall, and is now telling lies? There's no way to tell, but at least one of HTC's statements must be either a mistake or a lie.
Go to the older thread
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...protect HTC's reputation and avoid a recall...
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Whatever the politics or reasons, I doubt very much that this issue would warrant a recall as it does not render the device unfit for purpose.
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Whatever the politics or reasons, I doubt very much that this issue would warrant a recall as it does not render the device unfit for purpose.
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IMO, it does.
Even if you disagree, it wouldn't require a formal recall to be extremely damaging to HTC's sales; a lot of people returning their HD's and a lot of others not buying it because of a known hardware issue would be bad enough. HTC has plenty of incentive to lie.
Hi, I don't know how various settings affect the results. However, I wish to be able to take excellent photos and videos under different conditions. Are there any good apps that take better photos and videos than the stock Camera App? I am using GB. Thanks
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Or 1up
Might be dependant on hardware cause of varying quality pics
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what is wrong with pictures taken by the stock camera app? can you provide some example of a 'bad picture'?.
if you want an interface that is more DSLR like try https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.lite
here are some of my pics, i dont feel that they are of bad quality for a 'phone camera'.
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120506_164915.jpg
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120525_151334.jpg
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120506_191654.jpg
I am happy with the stock camera.. Many features too
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Perhaps it is better to talk about this via samples.
Any suggestion on better camera settings is appreciated.
I guess I may need an app that stores a set of preset settings
for taking photos/videos under different environments. Thanks.
In photo 1, I do not know why the ceiling lights are like that.
I changed various settings but there was no improvement.
In some cases, the overall color of the room changed.
In photo 2, the room appeared to be dark but it was not.
I changed the flash to auto, on along with changing other
settings. The room still appeared to be dark.
In photo 3, again, that place was not dark. Setting the flash
to auto or on did not help.
In photo 4, everything including the room appears to be somewhat yellowish.
In reality, the wall is white and the pillows are gray.
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what is wrong with pictures taken by the stock camera app? can you provide some example of a 'bad picture'?.
if you want an interface that is more DSLR like try https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.lite
here are some of my pics, i dont fell that the are of bad quality for a 'phone camera'.
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120506_164915.jpg
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120525_151334.jpg
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120506_191654.jpg
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Thanks for the suggestion but I am not a professional. I don't know how various settings affect the results. By the time I have tested out various settings, things that I want to capture will have been gone.
ah now things are getting clearer . your pictures looks a little bit like something is wrong with the 'white balance' of your camera. so you can try different settings for the white balance, the default should be automatic (AWB). I'm not an photoexpert too, but maybe some one else can guide you further with this.
Thanks for pointing this out. I also tried white balance but it did not help. Perhaps I did not do it properly. Hoping somebody could provide some tips. Are the strong glares from the ceiling lights in photo 1 also caused by the white balance?
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In photo 1, I do not know why the ceiling lights are like that.
I changed various settings but there was no improvement.
In some cases, the overall color of the room changed.
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This effect on the ceiling lights is due to a hardware fault, there are no settings within the phone that can correct this. You can try, like me, and use photoshop. For me, its no problem because I have used photoshop for many years, but others are not so fortunate. This fault is well documented. Samsung know about it, yet have done nothing to correct it. The only way is to send the unit back to the retailer for a new unit. I tried three or four brand new units and they were all the same.
In general. The camera has limitations because of its size and proximity to other circuitry that may introduce noise etc. Its 8megapix with a tiny lens, so as is, I feel it does a pretty good job (apart from that pink dot that is). To get better pictures, consider post processing with photoshop. If that's not an option, and quite frankly I would not recommend purchasing it just for pics from any camphone, try the GIMP, its free and does an awful lot to enhance your pics. You can find the GIMP here www.gimp.org it will run on linux, windows and the Mac
Hope that helps
So, getting something like Camera ZOOM FX won't help.
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So, getting something like Camera ZOOM FX won't help.
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Nope. sorry about that.
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This effect on the ceiling lights is due to a hardware fault, there are no settings within the phone that can correct this.
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Is there a name for this hardware fault? Does the S3 has this problem as well?
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Is there a name for this hardware fault? Does the S3 has this problem as well?
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Good question. I know the S2 does, and we all know about the Galaxy Note. I can see evidence of the problem on a slashgear.com presentation, and its that presentation that stopped me from going over to the S3. However, there are plenty of youtube tests where it seems pretty good. The S3 has only just been released, so it might be a while more before any issues become apparent. I think its one where you try before you buy. Personally, I'm not touching either the S3 or the 'Note until I have proof that the issue has been resolved.
Edit. The fault is commonly known as "the pink dot"
In photo 1 was the lens clean? Might sound obvious but even the slightest bit of grease or diet can affect how sources of light spear in photos. Typically in any photo I take where I light bulb or something similar is in the picture if the lens was not completely clean I got a similar effect as in photo 1
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In photo 1 was the lens clean? Might sound obvious but even the slightest bit of grease or diet can affect how sources of light spear in photos. Typically in any photo I take where I light bulb or something similar is in the picture if the lens was not completely clean I got a similar effect as in photo 1
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Well, there must be a lot of pink dirt around. My crappy clam phone must have pink dirt repellent, because no matter how greasy the lens gets, pics from it don't have a pink dot. Neither does my DSLR when the uv filter gets filthy, or my specs come to that. Sorry, but the dirt bit on this issue is a red herring. The camera has a defect.
I use UCam. A lot of "pro" settings and also some cool. And... you can disable shutter sound.
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i think you should send the device to service/repair, because i think this is an hardware issue. i saw a lot of pictures taken by the note (not only my own device) and they are al just fine with the standard settings.
I just noticed that there is a protective film covering the back camera. Probably Samsung put it there to protect the lens. Do you think this is the cause to all of my problems? Am I supposed to remove it? For the first few days after purchase (3 weeks ago), the Note took excellent photos. As for last week and the week before that, it depends. The thin protective film has been there right from the beginning. Let's say the protective film covering the lens caused the pink dot, how do you explain why the cafe in photos 2 and 3 appeared to be dark whereas in reality, it was not. Also, photo 4 looks yellowish overall.
Hi,
Protective film would most likely create the effect on pic one. (which would be visible when a direct light source or reflection is in the frame.)
Pic two - could be a metering issue. Try changing the (cog wheel =>) metering setting and / or exposure level.
Yellowish photo is the result of incorrect "white balance". Change the white balance setting to incandescent.
I'm using both the stock ICS camera and camera zoom fx. On my previous phone the fx produced much better photos than the stock one. On my G - Note I don't see much difference.
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I just noticed that there is a protective film covering the back camera. Probably Samsung put it there to protect the lens.
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Yes you are supposed to remove it. It does say so in the instructions that came with your phone. Check the camera after you have done this.
One of the main gripes I had with my Note 2 was the poor pictures it took. I looked at a lot of the reviews of the S4 and looked at all of the sample pictures on the web that the S4 took. I was thoroughly impressed by how good of quality pics it took and that is want got me hooked on getting it. After getting it I see it does take better pics but at the same time I don't get the quality I saw in the pics on the web.
I was wondering is there anything I can do to maximize the quality of my pictures so I get comparable quality that I saw in the review pictures?
Yeah I'm not sure. I always feel like this as well. Just make sure that you set Anti-Shake to on. That helps me, otherwise all my pics are blurry.
Check your camera and check to see if there's the clear plastic protective shipping film over. I was thinking the same thing about picture quality and found that. It almost looks like it should be there and is a little hard getting off.
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Check your camera and check to see if there's the clear plastic protective shipping film over. I was thinking the same thing about picture quality and found that. It almost looks like it should be there and is a little hard getting off.
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I have this on mine...but its cut out in the middle for the camera lens. So I don't think its making a difference?
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I have this on mine...but its cut out in the middle for the camera lens. So I don't think its making a difference?
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Some people say the film makes their camera not focus. I took mine off for good measure
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I took the film off the first second I got the phone so it's not that.
Try shooting pictures in Rich Tone (HDR). I've noticed consistently better quality pictures.
Ya I kind of noticed that as well but the only problem is whatever you're shooting has to be completely still in order for it to not turn out blurry.
Antishake on or hold your breath when taking pictures
The camera is only as good as the person's skills using it. Don't rely fully on the camera/software itself to do all the hard work for you.
The people who post reviews of these devices generally have decent photography skills and thus their "sample" pics turn out much better than the average user's.
Like stated, try to use HDR. Keep a steady hand by resting it on something or squating down low to the ground with a good steady poise. Play with the focus on different subjects to get the desired focal length as well.
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Ya I kind of noticed that as well but the only problem is whatever you're shooting has to be completely still in order for it to not turn out blurry.
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Try Sport mode. But I agree, the S4 sucks big time. My girls iPhone 4 takes better pictures.
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People forget the fact that youre not supposed to buy a phone for the pictures it can take...you want a good picture you firstly get the skills needed and get a better camera...tge s4 is probabky the closest youll come but dont expect the same results aa a dslr
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Besides my Turbo I also have a company provided IPhone5s so I decided to do a real world side by side comparison. Here is the setting: my truck is parked about 250' away from stop sign, I held each phone with both hands resting on the steering wheel. Both phones have all settings on AUTO the crossroad has a speed limit of 50 mph and no stoplights nearby so I am fairly certain the vehicles crossing in front of me are doing no less than 50 mph. My purpose is to catch the vehicles as close to the center of intersection as I possibly can, I took the Turbo pictures first and made every possible effort to capture the best picture possible with both phones. Observation: the shutter SOUND on the Iphone was instant, shutter SOUND on Turbo had an estimated full second delay. Look at the pictures and draw your own conclusions.
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Besides my Turbo I also have a company provided IPhone5s so I decided to do a real world side by side comparison. Here is the setting: my truck is parked about 250' away from stop sign, I held each phone with both hands resting on the steering wheel. Both phones have all settings on AUTO the crossroad has a speed limit of 50 mph and no stoplights nearby so I am fairly certain the vehicles crossing in front of me are doing no less than 50 mph. My purpose is to catch the vehicles as close to the center of intersection as I possibly can, I took the Turbo pictures first and made every possible effort to capture the best picture possible with both phones. Observation: the shutter SOUND on the Iphone was instant, shutter SOUND on Turbo had an estimated full second delay. Look at the pictures and draw your own conclusions.
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So while the shutter sound was delayed, it did not matter?
The Droid got the job done while the iPhone did not.
Which pics are which?
aviwdoowks said:
So while the shutter sound was delayed, it did not matter?
The Droid got the job done while the iPhone did not.
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The Turbo has what looks like a simulated gray shutter closing when you take picture, when that happened the picture was captured, the sound followed the visual cue.
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Which pics are which?
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The first 3 are the Turbo, the last 3 Iphone, if you hold the mouse over the pictures it identifies them, they can also be enlarged.
Ummm... Congrats?
It seems like you had HDR on with the Turbo
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It seems like you had HDR on with the Turbo
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He used default settings.
HDR on auto is one of them.
I have read here and other places what a dreadful camera the Turbo has, specially the inability to focus on moving objects and how slow it was to capture an image. I didn't want to dismiss the many stated comments about how awful the camera is. I also did not want to just simply say how I feel about the camera, to me it's a great camera for a phone. I did a heads up comparison between a camera praised often for being superior to the Turbo's and the Turbo camera consistently focused clearly on a fast moving object, the IPhone failed to catch a single vehicle in the focal area. I don't expect to sway the one's that hate the camera one bit, I simply presented evidence, proof of what the Turbo camera CAN do; not an opinion. WE all like here to look at pictures to prove a point... I gave you pictures.
iPhone is sharper
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iPhone is sharper
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Yeah that missing detail is really crisp.
Its so sharp I cannot see the cars!
I like the camera on the turbo, can't understand how anyone could argue the results of your test
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I like the camera on the turbo, can't understand how anyone could argue the results of your test
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Steve I did my best to present visual evidence and leave my own personal opinion out as best I could, I didn't know what the outcome would be and I would have presented results even if the Turbo had crapped out. I wanted to address focus and shutter speed on moving objects. The following IS an opinion: the camera is only as good as the hands holding it, even the world's best camera can take a bad picture in the wrong hands. The pictures the IPhone took were considerably darker than actual surroundings, the sky was NOT the darker blue in the picture and of course the obvious: no vehicles are present in the IPhone pictures, if you look hard enough to the right in one picture you will see the car I was trying to capture.
If you have a ceiling fan in your house or office, do the same test on the fan, well lit, low speed.
I've been doing that with the DT and whatever other phones I can lay hands on, none of them that
are built into a phone do very well. My observations that given some light and distance, the DT can
do OK with movement, but lack of light and/or up close action it's lacking. It isn't an accident that they
are putting dual flashes and ring flashes and such on cameras, the $2 sensor and lack of lens is really hurting.
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If you have a ceiling fan in your house or office, do the same test on the fan, well lit, low speed.
I've been doing that with the DT and whatever other phones I can lay hands on, none of them that
are built into a phone do very well. My observations that given some light and distance, the DT can
do OK with movement, but lack of light and/or up close action it's lacking. It isn't an accident that they
are putting dual flashes and ring flashes and such on cameras, the $2 sensor and lack of lens is really hurting.
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You realize its the same camera that the Z3 has, right?
For a phone camera, it is pretty good. As for the ceiling fan, that is a rather silly test considering typical shots a phone will take arent that fast. Everyone can agree that there are a few aoftware quips that need to be fixed, but lets stop moving goal posts when someone defies a complaint, yeah? It's never going to be as fast as a DSLR or even a point and shoot.
I don't care if it's Genghis Khan's own Point-N-Shoot, it's deficient in a number of areas.
Like anything moving that isn't 20 yards away or in direct sunlight, or a christmas tree.
Nor am I alone. And that fake DSLR soft focus BS isn't fooling me either.
When conditions are favorable to the DT's camera strengths, it takes very nice photos, better
than my S4 for example, the rub is the S4 took better photos most of the time because it's
range of acceptable conditions was wider. There are a hoard of people with kids and dogs
which are frequently in motion that are not pleased with the basically useless camera in those
situations.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/mo...droid-turbo-photos-auto-focus-blurry-why.html
wolf_walker69 said:
I don't care if it's Genghis Khan's own Point-N-Shoot, it's deficient in a number of areas.
Like anything moving that isn't 20 yards away or in direct sunlight, or a christmas tree.
Nor am I alone. And that fake DSLR soft focus BS isn't fooling me either.
When conditions are favorable to the DT's camera strengths, it takes very nice photos, better
than my S4 for example, the rub is the S4 took better photos most of the time because it's
range of acceptable conditions was wider. There are a hoard of people with kids and dogs
which are frequently in motion that are not pleased with the basically useless camera in those
situations.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/mo...droid-turbo-photos-auto-focus-blurry-why.html
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Here are some pictures of my baby girl, she posed in one; all the others she was moving and yes I can take a bad picture I'm man enough to admit it. I just think "basically useless" is a bit harsh. Merry Christmas.
Great looking dog! Your pics perfectly illustrate the performance I've observed, well lit, white background to reflect available light, mostly static subject, GREAT pics.
That last one with the blurry head, typical for less than great light or up close movement.
wolf_walker69 said:
I don't care if it's Genghis Khan's own Point-N-Shoot, it's deficient in a number of areas.
Like anything moving that isn't 20 yards away or in direct sunlight, or a christmas tree.
Nor am I alone. And that fake DSLR soft focus BS isn't fooling me either.
When conditions are favorable to the DT's camera strengths, it takes very nice photos, better
than my S4 for example, the rub is the S4 took better photos most of the time because it's
range of acceptable conditions was wider. There are a hoard of people with kids and dogs
which are frequently in motion that are not pleased with the basically useless camera in those
situations.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/mo...droid-turbo-photos-auto-focus-blurry-why.html
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the grass is always greener.. if you read through some of those post you will come to the one where the guy with the Note 4 says he has similar results with what everyone praises as the one of the best cameras.. My DT could take some crappy shots as well as some amazing ones, and so can my wife's iPhone 5s.. I agree with an earlier comment.. I would say the overwhelming factor in getting good pics from any phone... is the user..
I now have the N6 and the story is the same.. some pics are trash some are great.., i take pics with that knowledge therefore I don't get as disappointed as I used to.
lazarus2297 said:
the grass is always greener.. if you read through some of those post you will come to the one where the guy with the Note 4 says he has similar results with what everyone praises as the one of the best cameras.. My DT could take some crappy shots as well as some amazing ones, and so can my wife's iPhone 5s.. I agree with an earlier comment.. I would say the overwhelming factor in getting good pics from any phone... is the user..
I now have the N6 and the story is the same.. some pics are trash some are great.., i take pics with that knowledge therefore I don't get as disappointed as I used to.
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I think that the camera operator has much to do with the quality of pictures that come of the camera phone itself. This applies to non-phone cameras too.