OT? BT headsets to use like a 'phone - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

I hate anything going in my ear so have resisted BT headsets. But are there any that can just be held like a small mobile 'phone? Or, for that matter, could I even use a small, BT mobile telephone as a handset for my Universal (ie the sim card remains in the Universal so it's there for data and when I want to use the speakerphone but I make/receive calls using a secondary handset)?

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How to make bluetooth turn off automatically?

The idia is to use bluetooth headset (in my case HBH-600) with SE T630 and my Compact.
T630 pairs with headset only during incoming or outgoing call, in stand-by mode my headset is absolutly free to connect to my Compact.
And since my Compact connected to handsfree it's not letting it go. Even when my device is turned off headset remains connected to it. On the one hand it's good, but in order to make headset work with two devices I should get rid of that feature.
I've seen a thread where people (with feature mentioned above) said that our devices don't think that answering a call is "using" the device and turn off. So other party of conversation couldn't hear anything.
Do you have any ideas how to break bluetooth connection with headset after call?
Thanks in advance.
Perhaps Pocket Bluetooth Tools will help you, it can auto-off the BT on the device after the call is complete and re-enable it when a call comes in.
Be aware, however, that some people find it can cause more problems than it solves - I however love it on my Xda II.
Thanks for tip.
I've tried that a long time ago, but found it of no use for me at that moment.
I remember that there is "settings" for it, but now I can't find it.
And another question. On that site it is said that program supports bluetooth handsfree and headset profile, and what about voice dialing?
you also can use Pocket Zen Phone.. schedule your profile to set the bluetooth off at certain time.

What about Skype and Sip functions ?

Hi all,
I have Qtek s100 since exactly 2 years. I am very happy and even after relasing so many HTC PDA phones after that, I really did not think of changing my phone. Now I see P3600 as probable candidate to replace my S100. But in addition to size and processor, I would also be looking at some key features as justification to change. I am not going to use 3G or 2MP camera. so, lets narrow down to Free/very cheap phone function on this phone.
- anybody tried to install Skype client to make audio calls on wifi connection?
- Also anybody checked function of SIP voip client like SJPhone again using wifi?
If these features are going to have problem with.. I would still stay back with S100 happily.
AS
Skype works fine on it and I run VoIPSurfer for SIP without any problems!
Anyone can get skype sound to come trough the phone speaker instead of the loudspeaker? (I think it is a software limitation, but is there a workarround?)
n0t said:
Anyone can get skype sound to come trough the phone speaker instead of the loudspeaker? (I think it is a software limitation, but is there a workarround?)
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This is only available on the Eten X500. I finally decided to get this instead of the Trinity coz I dun use the 3G and the GPS is a lot better on the X500.
n0t said:
Anyone can get skype sound to come trough the phone speaker instead of the loudspeaker? (I think it is a software limitation, but is there a workarround?)
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It is a limitation in Skype. Try using a headset. Not BT though, since the processor can't handle both Skype and BT headset at the same time..
With my LOOX 720, we also have a "large" speaker (badly positioned even if you wanted to ignore that it is a loudspeaker and put it in your ear) and a small "phone" speaker (placed correctly where you would put your ear), although FSC never released any VoIP app for the device (and LOOX is not a phone).
Skype (and other VoIP apps) worked as you say. Audio was coming out of the main speaker, plus they (Skype) ignored our requests to use the correct speaker (or didn't know what to do about it).
Then some guys noticed that the small speaker was ALWAYS outputing audio (in apps/games etc.), but since it is a small phone speaker, you have to put your ear on to hear it. Also this gives more "depth" in 720 audio (since the tiny speaker does its part). Anyway, that was an interesting discovery because it led to research that gave something more important:
A simple registry entry could shut-off the main speaker while keeping the phone speaker working! No need for soft reset or anything! Some even made a little program for this (which also keeps different volume levels for when on and off since eg. I want volume=2 when loudspeaker is on and volume=4 when only ear speaker is on). Toggle it whenever we want (I have a shortcut in my today screen for it).
So I am thinking... look for something like that in Trinity also? It should even be simpler because I am sure Trinity has pretty clear and distinct volume values for both speakers (since this IS a phone after all).
Maybe a shortcut to a registry key could allow to control the speaker volume... like in the loox. I'll try to search registry... Anyway, this is a known issue for skype, so probably they will be working on that on future releases, maybe it needs customization for every particular model. _http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=71698
Skype and Bluetooth
I use a stereo BT headset and it works great (iTech clip S38). I used another program to toggle, but battery life went to a couple of hours, even when not in use. If you Skype a lot, or even once on an international trip, the cost is well justified.
n0t said:
Anyone can get skype sound to come trough the phone speaker instead of the loudspeaker? (I think it is a software limitation, but is there a workarround?)
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It is possible now with the last final (not beta) version of Skype (2.2.20 or something like that).
The problem is, this final version doesn't work for all phones. You can see the list of supported devices on Skype download page.
The Trinity is not supported on this final version. You can only use chat function, and when you place a voice call, the application automatically shut down.
That's why we keep running the previous beta versions, which work fine, but the sound come from the back speaker
I tried this final version on my wizard, and I confirm that the sound does come from the ear-piece, for the first time in skype history. But strangely enough, this 'new' skype is only compatible with 'old' phones...
The text found below was sent to Skype by me today
Dear Skype,
#1 please sent me a list of supported Pocket PC’s that work with skype and with a Bluetooth A2dp Headset.
The one I have now can be found at: http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/NA-US/products/Pages/JabraBT8040.aspx and I works really well for windows media mobile.
#2 I currently have the following device which does not work with Skype for the Pocket PC with an A2dp headset. I am very upset about this; I really want to use your skype out service, but cant.
My Device Information: Unlocked
HTC P3600, Trinity
ROM version: 1.23.405.2
ROM date: 03/11/07
Radio Version 1.38.00.11
Protocol Version: 32.71.7020.12h
ExtROM Version: 1.23.405.103
I have installed the following versions of Skype for PPC
SkypeForPocketPC-2.0.0.51-LowCPU.cab
SkypeForPocketPC-2.0.0.51-LowCPU.cab
SkypeForPocketPC-2.2.0.18-Beta.cab
kypeForPocketPC-2.2.0.20-Beta.exe
SkypeForPocketPCNew.CAB
The only one that works is the SkypeForPocketPC-2.2.0.18-Beta.cab it works perfectly for the HTC P3600, Trinity however, "only" when you use the corded headset that attaches to the mini usb on the phone, or just the speaker that is on the back of the phone the “external speaker”.
the SkypeForPocketPC-2.2.0.18-Beta.cab, I feel, does not work with any A2DP Bluetooth headset.
I have tried the following A2DP Bluetooth headsets
JabraBt8040
Link: same as above
Plantronics Voyager 855 Stereo Bluetooth Headset
Lubix UBHS-NC1 Stereo Bluetooth Headset
I think something goes wrong when the Bluetooth stack tries transfer the Skype audio to the Bluetooth headsets it gets all messed up with lots of echoes and sound disconnects and, latency and so on. However playing any multimedia files on the phone work perfectly through my A2DP Bluetooth headset.
Like a said SkypeForPocketPC-2.2.0.18-Beta.cab works perfectly only when you use the corded headset that attaches to the mini usb on the phone, or just the speaker that is on the back of the phone the “external speaker”.
I have also tried to use a whole bunch of 3rd party applications that redirected the sound to my older mono headsets. I tried three of them, and that did not work either. It’s something when the speaker sound gets transferd to any BT device.
(((((( Update I just used the the btaudio.zip that qyach posted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289720
it works but the mono sound is still not very good, nothing like a mobile phone call sound, and no ware near the sound quality with the corded headset that came with the HTC P3600 What to do,, anyone?
Im thinking of getting a ETEN X800 http://www.smart-mobile-gadgets.com/welcome/cart.php?target=product&product_id=1128&category_id=40
I read that It works well with Skype, and the sound is sent to the phones earpiece after installing a piece of software that ETEN developed called Skype Switch, therefore it should work with a BT headset.
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:cwIdCCuH2LEJ:www.etenblog.com/2007/11/13/getting-skype-to-work-as-it-should/+skype+Switch+program&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us
But now some sales man who sounded like he know what he was talking about, said that the ETEN phones are flaky and that 70% of the ETEN phones that he sells get returned.
I don’t know what to do, but, dam it I want a WM5 or WM6 Phone that works perfect with Skype sound BT and all.
Now the only problem is how much better or worse is HTC V.S. ETEN? I really am looking for a cool looking phone something small and sleek that will work perfect with Skype mobile. The ETEN X800 looked like it was the solution. But now I don’t know what to do.
Someone please help.
Update: 02/16/08
I Just got an ETEN x800 and istalled the Skype Switch and took skype for a test run ,, ya,ya, the sound gets redirected to the earpiece,,, ya, but it sonds like sh_t also..
Someone out there has to be able to Hack this mess.
DTMF ,Fring, PPC Skype, And A2DP.
For the Skype sound problem not going through the BT headset someone on this site suggested using fring which is a fantastic idea, however it’s always something... with fring you can place a Skype out call but during the call you can’t navigate company’s phone menu during the call like, “press 1 for billing” “press 2 for sales”. There isn’t even a dial pad. When I contacted there support department I got this:
Hello,
Thank you for contacting our support team.
Currently, it is not available to dial DTMF sounds on fring, this should be implemented in future versions. You can stay up to date on new releases from our blog http://www.fring.com/blog/
In other words, I’m not holding my breath.
Is there a way to transmit a DTMF signal to the input of a Bluetooth A2DP headset? I don’t mean literally, just a sound redirect, in other words trick it into thinking it’s me making the DTMF sound.
I can’t find anything on the net except for Dial-a-matic, which will not work. I also took a look at Pocket Dialer v1.03 but there is no way to redirect sound. I also thought that maybe Kai’s ContactDialer would work but I don’t think it does, or I don’t understand how to use it and get it to work.
I also wonder if all of these problems are salved on WM6 I was looking at upgrading to the new HTC P3470 but the processor is slower than the p3600.
God,, do I want to get rid of that stupid weird mini HTC usb headset, ridicules for a $700 phone.
I wouldn’t need to go through all this if Skype would just finally fix their PPC version to work with a Bluetooth headset.
(((((( Update I just used the the btaudio.zip that qyach posted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289720
it works but the mono sound is still not very good, nothing like a mobile phone call sound, and no ware near the sound quality with the corded headset that came with the HTC P3600 What to do,, anyone?
Im thinking of getting a ETEN X800 http://www.smart-mobile-gadgets.com/...category_id=40
I read that IT works well with Skype, and the sound is sent to the phones speakers after installing a piece of software that ETEN developed called Skype Switch, therefore it should work with a BT headset.
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=2&gl=us
But now some sales man who sounded like he know what he was talking about, said that the ETEN phones are flaky and that 70% of the ETEN phones that he sells get returned.
I don’t know what to do, but, dam it I want a WM5 or WM6 Phone that works perfect with Skype sound BT and all.
Now the only problem is how much better or worse is HTC V.S. ETEN? I really am looking for a cool looking phone something small and sleek that will work perfect with Skype mobile. The ETEN X800 looked like it was the solution. But now I don’t know what to do.
Someone please help.

Bluetooth Handsfree problem: answering from the handset

HI all,
I got a t-mobile Vario II and have a plantronics 655 handsfree. I have searched the forum but found nothing that answers my problem.
I want to be able to answer a call from the phone and when the handsfree is paired the sound to come through the handsfree. I have tried a few handsfree kits but none seem to work and all the calls come through the phone until i pull the handsfree out of my ear hit answer n put it back in. Am i missing something? I want to be able to answer a call from the phone and talk through my handsfree. When i make a phone call however from the phone it works fine and the sound comes through the handsfree like it should.
I read something about a handsfree profile...where is that? i don't have a handsfree profile option on my phone. Is it an add-on. I tried the handsfree with my ericsson phone and when u answer from the phone it asks if i want the audio through the handset or the handsfree..
hellpppppp...its driving me madd lol
I Take it no one knows the answer to this or has created a patch? Does everyone answer there phone from the answer button on the bluetooth handsfree then? ??
What you are trying to do, is contrary to the feature designed into your dialer. When you answer the phone call from the phone instead of the connected headset, you obviously wanted to talk via the phone not the headset so that is where it routes the call. You can get it back to the headset after you answered on your phone by selecting the menu option and selecting "Turn Handsfree On".
similar issue
I have an ATT branded 8525, and a Motorola H550.
I'm using the built in voice dialer, as I really don't feel like shelling out any more money for voice commander, when I'm paying for the spb products I have (pocketplus, mobile shell, and phone suite).
With other phones, I could use the phone (by hand) to dial a number, while wearing the BT headset, and it would automatically put the conversation on the phone.
This doesn't.
Also, when I receive a call, I don't get the ringtones I have selected for specific callers, just a generic beep.
Morgan
That issue is actually unrelated. The issue that arnie_ahu has is trying to do something differently than the phone design. However, your issue is a real issue. Dialing on the phone and pressing call should send the call to the headset if it is connected properly. The ony conclusion I can think of is that it is not connected properly as a headset.
In my experience, this is Bluetooth device specific. When I use my Jawbone, I can answer on the phone and the conversation will be on the Jawbone. However, if I use a Plantronics 320 and answer on the phone, the conversation will be on the phone.
The reason why I answer using the phone instead of using the Bluetooth headset is out of courtesy to the caller. For some reason, when I answer with a Bluetooth device, the caller hears a very loud sound that is reminiscent of a fog horn. I have experienced this with multiple phones and headsets. I am guessing this is related to the Bluetooth handshake.
edited: spelling correction.
It may be (for me) because I am using mp3 ringtones on a mono earpiece.
From what I have found on line, that won't work with WM5, which sucks, because it worked on my old piece of crap nokia 6230.
Why oh why must this be so hard?
Now I have to try and convert the mp3 ringtones I made from full songs to something the phone will use.

VOIP - The basics

I'm somewhat new to voip. I have an at&t tilt and I'm signed up with the internet unlimited and a voice plan of 450 min. I told at&t that I just want the internet data plan and that they can cancel the voice plan because together they are costing over 100 a month,
What I want to do is use my unlimited data plan with voip. I installed skype but I don't like the way it uses my speaker phone instead of just the regular phone speaker.
at&t can't charge me for using skype right? I mean besides my data charges...
I noticed that the rom I installed on my phone has a voip setting within the comm manager, Can I put the info from my skype account into this voip settings in the communication manager?
Like I said I'm just trying to save money by using my tilt aka kaiser as an internet only device and then use voip for the phone functionality. I would need to be able to call lan lines and other cell phones and also have my own phone number to accept incoming calls. I am thankful for any help"even if it's to tell me it can't be done" Thanks
no data is data att dont know what your data is voice, movies, pr0n or whatever if they did they would be breaking a pile of laws for spying on you
and even if they knew they cant charge you for a service they dont provide for you
also pretty sure that no voip application or other application can access the "reguler phone" speaker think it's hardwired to the gsm module
SO theres no way to have a private conversation with somone? speakerphone is too loud to always use. what about blue tooth? will bluetooth work with skype on a mobile. Or really what im asking is ; can I use bluetooth to hear sound on my phone other than gsm>?
yes using a2dp
and even a wired headset should work
I think you will find that A2DP uses too much CPU to be used with a high-CPU application such as Skype (it certainly does on my Hermes). Also, as far as I can tell A2DP is a one way audio link (sound goes to the headset, but not the other way) and such is inappropriate for this type of use. Your best bet is to use a wired headset.
You may also want to try Fring (google it); i'm told it contains a Skype client that can use the phone's speaker as opposed to the loudspeaker.
Windows Mobile 6 has its own VOIP built in (provided it wasn't removed from your ROM) and while this works (uses the in built phone app so works just like that can with any audio device that you can use in a normal phone call) it is very (and I mean VERY) difficult to set up. Definitely not for the feint of heart...
caeci11ius said:
I think you will find that A2DP uses too much CPU to be used with a high-CPU application such as Skype (it certainly does on my Hermes). Also, as far as I can tell A2DP is a one way audio link (sound goes to the headset, but not the other way) and such is inappropriate for this type of use. Your best bet is to use a wired headset.
You may also want to try Fring (google it); i'm told it contains a Skype client that can use the phone's speaker as opposed to the loudspeaker.
Windows Mobile 6 has its own VOIP built in (provided it wasn't removed from your ROM) and while this works (uses the in built phone app so works just like that can with any audio device that you can use in a normal phone call) it is very (and I mean VERY) difficult to set up. Definitely not for the feint of heart...
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I just bought a bluetooth stereo headset that uses a2dp and I can carry coversations with it so it does work with phones calls.
Also where are the VOIP setting in WM6?
Like he said, your provider may have taken it out, I flashed my rom so I have it. But Inorder to set it up, Would I still need an account with skype? or another service? or will the voip in wm6 work on its own,?
caeci11ius said:
Windows Mobile 6 has its own VOIP built in (provided it wasn't removed from your ROM) and while this works (uses the in built phone app so works just like that can with any audio device that you can use in a normal phone call) it is very (and I mean VERY) difficult to set up. Definitely not for the feint of heart...
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Im not feint hearted!
Please bring on your instructions?

[REQ] Application to tell which device has BT Wireless Stereo and BT Hands Free

There seems to be many times when my BT stereo headphones (Sony Ericsson Bluetooth Headset HBH-DS970) are connected functionality-wise to say Pocket Player and I hear music. But the Hands Free portion of the BT is not attached. At such times hitting pause/next track/etc on the HBH-DS970 does nothing. Sometimes powering off the DS970 and back on re-establishes the Hands Free connection.
This makes me wonder, when it's not working, what does Bluetooth say the Hands free is attached to? Is it possible to have the Wireless Stereo hooked into one thing and the Hands free be controlling something else?
Another thing that goes along these lines, and I have no way of fixing it, is that sometimes for some odd reason I just cannot connect my DS970 to my phone to actually make phone calls with. Now I know it works because, well, most of the time it connects and works. But lately, more and more, it doesn't.
When it doesn't the symptoms are, naturally, that I hear nothing in the headphones when making a call and cannot use the mic built into the DS970. But also, while in the call (because the menu pick appears no where else unless your in an active call) selecting Menu will show a grayed out "Turn Hands Free on". When this happens I cannot use my BT headset to make calls no matter what I do.
When this is working then the "Turn Hands Free on" menu pick is not grayed out and I can turn it on.
This leads me to want a BT application that can expose the true internal status of the BT connections and perhaps allow the user to manually override situations that are just plain wrong like the above.

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