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Can the TyTn have a standalone GPS like the Trinity with the chipset Qualcomm 6275?

Juliofll said:
Can the TyTn have a standalone GPS like the Trinity with the chipset Qualcomm 6275?
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There's some discussion on this towards the end of the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279151
Mike

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400 Mhz Samsung CPU in Prophet...

Might seem like a stupid question, but does anyone know if it is physically possible to upgrade the Omap CPU with the 400Mhz CPU found in the HTC Tytn?
Does anyone have pictures or technical specs and diagrams of both the Prophet and the HTC Tytn, so this can be investigated or ruled out? Any helpgul feedback will be appreciated.
The two devices have a different pinout which limits the idea from the physical aspect. Each also has a different firmware.
I hope HTC's next product would be an upscale Prophet with strong CPU, UMTS/HDPSA and a 3.3Mp camera. It will be to the TyTn what the Prophet is to the Wizard.
I also didn't find anything lacking in the Prophet compared with TyTn except for the stronger processor (and speaker volume).
Nir
dnts said:
The two devices have a different pinout which limits the idea from the physical aspect. Each also has a different firmware.
I hope HTC's next product would be an upscale Prophet with strong CPU, UMTS/HDPSA and a 3.3Mp camera. It will be to the TyTn what the Prophet is to the Wizard.
I also didn't find anything lacking in the Prophet compared with TyTn except for the stronger processor (and speaker volume).
Nir
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@dnts.
Thanks for clarification. I'll just have to wait to upgrade to the Prophet II.
The upgrade is the Trinity.... with built in gps and A-gps, 3g, umts triband, quadband gsm, 2mp camera and 400mhz omap.
mikewchandler said:
The upgrade is the Trinity.... with built in gps and A-gps, 3g, umts triband, quadband gsm, 2mp camera and 400mhz omap.
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Nice one mikewchandler. I'll look into that. :wink:
400 Mhz Omap Processor? Will it fit in the Prophet?...
mikewchandler said:
The upgrade is the Trinity.... with built in gps and A-gps, 3g, umts triband, quadband gsm, 2mp camera and 400mhz omap.
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Well if there is a 400 Mhz Omap processor, can that be used to replace its little 200 Mhz brother? I quite like my Prophet and don't really want to upgrade to a newer device if this is at all possible. I'll investigate myself and share my findings. :wink:
Looks like we've been misinformed. It's a Samsung processor! Though the Trinity looks very appealing (especially with in-built GPS), I think I prefer the TyTn. See below:
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdamaster&posted=1&brand=HTC
Re: 400 Mhz Omap Processor? Will it fit in the Prophet?...
mackaby007 said:
mikewchandler said:
The upgrade is the Trinity.... with built in gps and A-gps, 3g, umts triband, quadband gsm, 2mp camera and 400mhz omap.
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Well if there is a 400 Mhz Omap processor, can that be used to replace its little 200 Mhz brother? I quite like my Prophet and don't really want to upgrade to a newer device if this is at all possible. I'll investigate myself and share my findings. :wink:
Looks like we've been misinformed. It's a Samsung processor! Though the Trinity looks very appealing (especially with in-built GPS), I think I prefer the TyTn. See below:
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdamaster&posted=1&brand=HTC
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OK i gave in. Got myself a Vario II today! :lol:
I must say, that this device is like an enhanced Prophet (hard and software wise). Glad I made the switch. :wink:

New specification sheet

Hi!
I noticed a couple of day that HTC added a new spec sheet for the Trinity.
"New" information:
Bluetooth (class 2) is WITHOUT EDR :-(
Battery is 1250mAh (think this is a typo)
Chipset and CPU finally confirmed
HSDPA is limited to 1.8Mbps according to the datasheet for the chipset
Anything else?
helten2 said:
Hi!
I noticed a couple of day that HTC added a new spec sheet for the Trinity.
"New" information:
Bluetooth (class 2) is WITHOUT EDR :-(
Battery is 1250mAh (think this is a typo)
Chipset and CPU finally confirmed
HSDPA is limited to 1.8Mbps according to the datasheet for the chipset
Anything else?
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This spec sheet has been there for quite a while. Waiting for a real new spec sheet which clarifies the too long ongoing GPS mystery

HTC P3600 has GPS, USB host, and 4 CPU!

look here :
http://translate.google.com/transla...&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=/language_tools
original :
http://www.solopalmari.com/content/view/2471/38/
hightekman said:
look here :
http://translate.google.com/transla...&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=/language_tools
original :
http://www.solopalmari.com/content/view/2471/38/
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Thanks, nice article. It confirms the earlier theory discussed in this threat: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282234
The HTC universal has also a Qualcomm chipset (6250) which among others is capable of AGPS and USB host. Though this chip functionallity can, due PCB design, not be used in the Universal. Now we should wait and see what HTC did in their Trinity design. Can we really use all this functionallity?

Display Chip in Trinity

Does Trinity have an ATI display Chip as Hermes did? If not, which chip is inside Trinity?
Thanks.
nologin said:
Does Trinity have an ATI display Chip as Hermes did? If not, which chip is inside Trinity?
Thanks.
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The chipset used in the Trinity (Qualcomm 6275) does contain a graphics processor, however based on the outcome of benchmarks (pre production models) we may assume that the graphics processor part is not active yet.
Follow the link for a more detailed description of the chipset.
http://translate.google.com/transla...&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=/language_tools
XenoV said:
The chipset used in the Trinity (Qualcomm 6275) does contain a graphics processor, however based on the outcome of benchmarks (pre production models) we may assume that the graphics processor part is not active yet.
Follow the link for a more detailed description of the chipset.
http://translate.google.com/transla...&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=/language_tools
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Thanks for your answer.
As far as I know, Hermes also equipped with this chipset, but it seems the chipset has never been activated in hermes. I really wonder if the functionalities of Qualcomm 6275 would be activated in Trinity.
Would the processing power of samsung CPU (400Mhz) alone be able to decode MP4 video at 30fps?
Thanks again.
It should as I am doing that on my Wizard using pocketDVD Studio and TCPMP player using the wizards 200Mhz. CPU. It gets choppy sometimes but only during intense scenes and lasts only for a second or 2. I think it is still watchible though. Hope this helps.

Trinity Mainboard

FYI: Trinity mainboard
great job!! thanks
Superb !!
This ends many speculations and unclarities raised in the past
Great work!
Guys, what's that ATi chip in there? Does the Trinity have some sort of video acceleration?
That would be so awesome.
ATI The Imageon™ 2282
http://ati.amd.com/products/imageon2282/index.html
Guybrush said:
ATI The Imageon™ 2282
http://ati.amd.com/products/imageon2282/index.html
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Thanks for the link.
Probably a real rookie question but did any of the HTC phones before Trinity/Artemis (like Wizard) have a similar ATi-made processor or is this the first?
Videos were choppy at anything above 15fps for me on the Wizard.
forcedalias said:
Videos were choppy at anything above 15fps for me on the Wizard.
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The Wizard has a 200MHz OMAP processor. The Trinity has a 400MHz Samsung CPU.
forcedalias said:
Thanks for the link.
Probably a real rookie question but did any of the HTC phones before Trinity/Artemis (like Wizard) have a similar ATi-made processor or is this the first?
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The Wizard was very slooooow in almost everything, however it became a little beter after several ROM updates. As far as I remember the Magician had also an ATI accelerator chip. Same for the HP HX4700 PDA, which was also made by HTC. So the concept is far from new.
Radio
I've seen a post indicating that the P3600 has the same FM Radio chip as the P3300, not being an expert do these image back this up ?
http://forum2.mobile-review.com/showpost.php?p=498824&postcount=63
http://www.solopalmari.com/images/stories/htc/artemis_trinity/p3600_gpsornot/msm6275b.gif
Why the hell doesn't HTC detail the capabilities with a big caveat about achievables ! People will purchase with a premise of what's going to come with a new ROM.
i didn't see FM radio chip on Trinity from motherboard pictures
sorry Guys no FM chip inside p3600, i had confirm from HTC
Can anyone confirm that the bluetooth chip is the Texas Instruments BRF6150?
I hope it is the same chip as the HTC Hermes.
Then there might come the possibility for Widcomm/Broadcomm bluetooth stack.
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285419
XenoV said:
The Wizard was very slooooow in almost everything, however it became a little beter after several ROM updates. As far as I remember the Magician had also an ATI accelerator chip. Same for the HP HX4700 PDA, which was also made by HTC. So the concept is far from new.
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The Magician did NOT have a graphics chip, ATI or otherwise. Like you said, the concept is far from new, but has not been used very often (at least in phone edition PDAs).
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianHardwareOverview
HELP with HTC P3600 - no Switch
It`s change with a new psot

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