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Gday TyTN folk.
I have an iMate PDA2k and am thinking of moving to TyTN, but being a bit frustrated with my current unit I'd like to know whether TyTN makes a better phone than BA does.
My specific botherments are:
- notification light (green/red/orange) where the functions over-ride each other. e.g. if I miss a call while its charging, it starts flashing red, but then it completes charging and goes green. Actually, even if it's not charging it seems to stop flashing red after a while. I want it to keep flashing red until I actually handle the device and should have noticed.
To me it makes more sense to combine the bluetooth light with the charge light, and leave the phone notification as a separate item.
- notification icon space in start bar. Currently it's ALWAYS showing a multi-message bubble icon (I'm always in CDMA 1x coverage, and also have an app running that puts its own notification icon up) so I don't see a new one for SMS or voice message. It looks like the best answer might actually be a 3rd party start-bar app, but still.. is it any better under WM5?
- waking up. Incoming calls, messages, and bluetooth connections, wake up the device completely. If it's in the pouch, or worse, in my pocket, the screen then gets bumped, thereby performing actions I don't want to. Even getting it out of my pocket without bumping the screen is a challenge. I tried setting an unlock password (some time ago) but that wasn't satisfactory; I don't remember whether the screen still unlocked on incoming calls, or if unlocking was too much a nuisance.
Ideally, it should wake up enough so that the firm hardware buttons are unlocked but the screen isn't active until you've used a button.
The voice-recording button used to annoy me with accidental presses when removing from pouch; I changed that button to do screen rotate which I find more useful, and no big deal when pushed accidentally - just push it again.
- Sound quality, especially for the person on the other end of a call. I've had people tell me I'm faint on the iMate. Positioning is a little interesting as I don't really want to rub my face all over the screen. Does the TyTN pick up any better?
- turning the phone off. (Like Windows' contradictory "click start to shut down") I really don't like the fiddly actions required to "turn on flight mode" on pda2k, especially when I don't want to get out the stylus. People with normal mobile phones can turn them completely off using one hardware button, and they don't have to look hard to see whether it's on or off. Some have mentioned wanting an easy way to switch to/from silent mode.
Is there a quick, sensible, easy way to turn the phone on and off, preferably also to/from silent?
Thanks
gregnash said:
- notification icon space in start bar. Currently it's ALWAYS showing a multi-message bubble icon (I'm always in CDMA 1x coverage, and also have an app running that puts its own notification icon up) so I don't see a new one for SMS or voice message. It looks like the best answer might actually be a 3rd party start-bar app, but still.. is it any better under WM5?
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First a corresponding icon (envelope, phone), after more notifications, you get a bubble (?). Not a bubble all the time.
gregnash said:
- turning the phone off. (Like Windows' contradictory "click start to shut down") I really don't like the fiddly actions required to "turn on flight mode" on pda2k, especially when I don't want to get out the stylus. People with normal mobile phones can turn them completely off using one hardware button, and they don't have to look hard to see whether it's on or off. Some have mentioned wanting an easy way to switch to/from silent mode.
Is there a quick, sensible, easy way to turn the phone on and off, preferably also to/from silent?
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One hardware button for standby, hold it to turn the device off completely. You get a window where you can just hit the d-pad button.
There's also a button for comm-manager, there you can select silent/vibrate mode and flight mode.
Hi, you speak of not wanting to rub your face on the screen, I actually use my TyTN in speaker phone mode to prevent this, I just quickly enable speaker on a call, and flip the phone to where the back is by my face, it puts the speaker in a good spot also, I know it sounds a bit weird, bit works pretty well.
Granted I don't do this with every call, mostly I use it when I know the call is gonna last for more than a few minutes.
notifications, buttons
TiMMah!!! said:
First a corresponding icon (envelope, phone), after more notifications, you get a bubble (?). Not a bubble all the time.
One hardware button for standby, hold it to turn the device off completely. You get a window where you can just hit the d-pad button.
There's also a button for comm-manager, there you can select silent/vibrate mode and flight mode.
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You're right about the notification icon, but if I was watching the screen at the time of the additional notify then I'd already know what's there and wouldn't need the icon. On the pda2k cdma, being in a 1x coverage area generates a notification, plus mNotes puts one, so there's a bubble even before I receive any sms, voicemail etc. Combine that with the behaviour of the flashing light, it means if I missed something I may not know about it unless I go looking.
Thanks re the hardware button, that's good news.
face-rubbing
ChaoticDruid said:
Hi, you speak of not wanting to rub your face on the screen, I actually use my TyTN in speaker phone mode to prevent this, I just quickly enable speaker on a call, and flip the phone to where the back is by my face, it puts the speaker in a good spot also, I know it sounds a bit weird, bit works pretty well.
Granted I don't do this with every call, mostly I use it when I know the call is gonna last for more than a few minutes.
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Creative! I'll remember that one..
Sounds like you should check out PhoneAlarm
I noticed that the 8525 does not wake for new email - just get audible alert. Any way to have it behave like this for other notifications such as new txt msg or incoming call? My device spends the majority of the day in my pocket.
After some further research I found some apps for Palm that appear to do this and an app for PPC called Pocket Guard that comes close. What I really want is to make it so that my device will not wake unless I press the power button. I just want audible or vibration alerts when the device is off. Any input is greatly appreciated.
I'm confused. Anyway, try Setting->S & Notification -> New email messages
I like the way it behaves with new email - I just get an audible alert and the device does not turn on. I want to setup all other notifications to behave this way including incoming calls. I wouldn't mind pressing the power button before answering a call. There are no notification settings to prevent wake.
All other PDAs I have used turned on when receiving new email. This leads me to believe that there might be a reg hack or something to disable wake with other notifications as well.
Me too. I'm bothered by my pda2k waking up when it's in my pocket (e.g. going in/out of bluetooth car kit range, receiving call, receiving sms). The screen can come on, but the screen and easy-to-bump buttons should remain locked until one of the firm buttons is pushed.
Do the designers actually use these devices?!
The program I mentioned above is actually called ScreenGuard (http://www.pocketmax.net/) and will probably do what you want. It will allow the screen to come on but all buttons and screen are locked. You have to enter a combination of 2 programmable keys to unlock. WM5 beta is available in the support forum. I believe that are still working Hermes support but you can check it out. It didn't fully lock everything when I tried it.
I am not interested in any locking security. Just wanting to keep it from waking when I don't want it to. You also cannot use the power button for ScreenGuard.
where in the registry do I edit my phone to vibrate when it is on vibrate?
things installed:
HTC Kaizer home plugin with tabsetting
havent killed the lights htc audio manager
emuntz htc home customizer
Phone Vibrate
I have been having the same issue with my Mogul. I never used the vibrate and when I went to use it I noticed that it did not work. I have several tweaks on my phone and would like to get this back without doing a hard reset to get back to day one functionality.
if you have Flashed your Mogul to Firmware 2.17.651.0 and disable the blinking LED it also will disable the Vibrate function on your Mogul.
Had same issue on mogul, search reg for \HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\AllLEDMgr
If Index is set to 0 change it to 1. The light will comeback and so will the Vibrate Function.
HTC\SPRINT Crack Pipe logic
I Should of got a Palm OS phone.
thanks for the info
chronos360 said:
if you have Flashed your Mogul to Firmware 2.17.651.0 and disable the blinking LED it also will disable the Vibrate function on your Mogul.
Had same issue on mogul, search reg for \HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\AllLEDMgr
If Index is set to 0 change it to 1. The light will comeback and so will the Vibrate Function.
HTC\SPRINT Crack Pipe logic
I Should of got a Palm OS phone.
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Dude thanks for the info I didi run the led disabe. It sucks that I have to choose between good battery or vibration
Hello everyone - I'm new to this forum, and the world of Windows-powered phones in general. Still figuring out what my new Touch 3G (Jade) can really do!
One question to start with - in the old days, my Ericsson T68i flashed the green LED occasionally to let me know it was still switched on. Is there any way to get the Jade to do this?
I'm wondering the same thing and still figuring this out. Wish the manual was more helpful.
What I've learned so far is the LED if off under normal operation. It flashes green when there's a missed call or SMS waiting to be read. No LED for Bluetooth On. That's as far as I know.
I'm disappointed about missing network coverage led, missing bluetooth and gps led status...But i'm wondering, if i take a closer look at my jade it seems to be 2 leds, i'm wrong?
The "second one" is a light detector . Did you notice automatic backlight setting?
Jade does not flash for GSM, BT, WiFi, GPS. It only flashes for reminders, missed calls and messages.
But actually, I like it more. If I see LED flashing, there is something which needs my attention. You can see the active networks on the display status area.
There is flashing for battery low status as well
fenikso said:
The "second one" is a light detector . Did you notice automatic backlight setting?
Jade does not flash for GSM, BT, WiFi, GPS. It only flashes for reminders, missed calls and messages.
But actually, I like it more. If I see LED flashing, there is something which needs my attention. You can see the active networks on the display status area.
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LED on my set does not flash even when there are unread messages or missed calls. I've soft reset several times, still no LED flashing. Any assistance ??
azahidi said:
LED on my set does not flash even when there are unread messages or missed calls. I've soft reset several times, still no LED flashing. Any assistance ??
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Translate from a Dutch device:
Go to Settings => Sounds
Click Advanced
Click Tab: Notifications
And there you can set your Touch 3G aka Jade flash for diverent notifications.
In the top pull-down menu choose wathever you want and then select if you want a screennotification and/or a flashing LED.
Sincerely,
I cant understand.Where is that setting for the LED ?
When you've reached the menu Tom pointed out, just use the pull down menu tha'ts next to 'event' (translated from dutch, anyway...first line) for lets say 'new text message' there you can choose if you want to use the led and/or the notification on your screen.
Tom Lenferink said:
Translate from a Dutch device:
Go to Settings => Sounds
Click Advanced
Click Tab: Notifications
And there you can set your Touch 3G aka Jade flash for diverent notifications.
In the top pull-down menu choose wathever you want and then select if you want a screennotification and/or a flashing LED.
Sincerely,
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Thank you very much. How can I miss that ???
Om my device is like this
Settings - (personal tab) Sounds & Notification - (notifications tab) ... custimise from there on..
Anyone knows if the green light can be flashed when in Stand-by mode?
Really want to make it flashes since it's hard to tell if it's in stand by mode or switched off...
ippie said:
Anyone knows if the green light can be flashed when in Stand-by mode?
Really want to make it flashes since it's hard to tell if it's in stand by mode or switched off...
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I'm not really sure if the LED can be flashed when in standby mode, I think the reason for this is to make the battery life longer
Thx for your reply.
I'm still looking for a solution to make the light flashes when stand by...
It's really hard to tell if it's in Stand-by or switch off...
Can't find any clue with the Registry...
Hope there's a solution...
led
Did you perform a word search in the registry
try a search on "led" maybe you can find some keys
Maybe nueLED could help.
Search it in the forum.
hello xda community
i'm very new to the blackstone and this is my first post here. so please bear with me if i'm asking very basic questions here.
my problem:
i carry my blackstone in my pocket all the time. and many people told me throughout the last days that they called me and that i picked up the call by accident.
since i work at customer sites mostly my phone is muted. so people call me and somehow i pickup the calls while the phone is in my pocket.
i always turn of the screen and i have the automatic lock (password protection) enabled. still when the incoming call screen comes up it looks like it is possible that calls are being picked up.
i know there is the slide which has to be moved to the left in order to pickup calls.
i have tried myself by calling my from my home phone and touching the screen and the buttons at random. and indeed the calls are being picked up. i was not able to find out how this is happening ... but it does.
so is there any setting i can change or any additional piece of software i can install to make sure calls are only answered when i want?
possible a reg key i need to change?
any help is very much appreciated
cheers
This isn't just a problem with the Blackstone; every WM phone I have had does this. I have found that a good locking program handles this quie well. I personally like S2U2 by A_C, but there are many others available. You can look in the apps forum, or check the development & hacking forum from the main menu.
The other thing to check is that you have all your notifcations set properly. I set all of mine to vibrate only. Many of them turn on the screen by default. Unfortunately this won't fix the problem on its' own though.
mwelch16 ... thank you very much for the reply
i will give it a try and see how it works for me.
so that means first of all i will have to slide that iphone type of lock and then take the call by using the regular slider?
is there any other way (without) an additional piece of software to handle this? cause after all there is the build in slider ... but somehow it's not working as it is supposed to. any enhancement to that?
thanks again
Is there a way how to disable the CALL PICKUP button which is on the left? so the first of the four buttons?
I think it's because it getting pressed while my phone is in the pocket.
thanks a lot
I use Pocket Shield - it's not free (free to try though) but it's worked well for me
tibor78 said:
mwelch16 ... thank you very much for the reply
i will give it a try and see how it works for me.
so that means first of all i will have to slide that iphone type of lock and then take the call by using the regular slider?
is there any other way (without) an additional piece of software to handle this? cause after all there is the build in slider ... but somehow it's not working as it is supposed to. any enhancement to that?
thanks again
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No, S2U2 will unlock itself for a phone call and then lock the phone again after the call. So no need to slide to unlock and then answer your phone. It has a bunch of different settings, and yes I believe it locks the hard buttons.
thanks folks for the replies
i found all the settings i was looking for in the S2U2 options. so i'm good right now.
thanks again
You're probably answering the call by pressing the "phone" button (the very left of the four buttons on the bottom). You can either use those buttons to answer/hang up, or the on screen slider.
I've used AE Button Plus to disable the 'Answer' and 'End' hardware keys and re-mapped them to turn wifi and bluetooth off and on. This way there is no chance of hanging up on a call by mistake since you need to use the slide to answer on screen.
Similar but opposite problem
I'm having a problem along the same lines. If I get a call when the phone is in my pocket and answer it on my bluetooth headset, when the call ends the phone then rings someone else, usually the same person who is at the top of my contacts list. Not only is this damned annoying for me, it's getting a bit tedious for the person getting the unwanted calls.
Is there any way to get the phone to immediately lock as soon as a call terminates to prevent this happening? I'm assuming that once the call ends and it returns to the default contact/dial pad screen, the merest brush against the screen will be enough to start a new call.
I'm beginning to think I should have stuck with my iPhone
CreepinJesus said:
You're probably answering the call by pressing the "phone" button (the very left of the four buttons on the bottom). You can either use those buttons to answer/hang up, or the on screen slider.
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I've the exact same problem, 3/4 of the incoming calls rejected when I get the phone out of my pocket due to End button accidentally pressed.
What did they thought when they implement the slide to answer ????
The purpose of the slide to answer is to avoid such accident, but why the hell did they keep the Answer / End buttons active ????? total non sense to me.
Will check if this AE Button + app can solve this annoying behaviour.
has anyone tried Lockmelite?
It may help - haven't used it myself though.
x 2 for PocketShield. It uses the light sensor in your phone to prevent the touchscreen from activating when the device is inside, say, a pouch, or in your pocket.
I'm using evaluation version 2.6.2.10, which as I understand it, has full functionality, except that every now and then, randomly (and IMO infrequently enough to not be annoying) before unlocking it displays a 10 second message saying that you're using an evaluation version. Note that this *never* happens during an incoming phone call. Good stuff.
Hi,
Try TouchLockPro :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444215
Now it handle light unlock in any cases, that as solved all my issues (pocket, in cas BT,...) and fulfill all my requirements.
BR
Pocket Shield doing perfect job for me
I use AE Buttons Plus to disable the "Answer" & "End" virtual buttons. Then I used iconsoft Phonext to handle all my calling functionalities. When a call comes in, Phonext display a lock screen which you have to slide before it presents you with all the options like answer, decline, silence etc.
This way, I never accidentally pickup a call or dial a number.