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Bluetooth Holux GR230/Tomtom 3

Why is it that the Holux driver does not appear in the Tomtom list of available drivers. Can't seem to install anything from the CD driver supplied with the GPS receiver. Does anyone have any ideas?
Thank you in advance.

I got this from the tomtom website and posted it here a few weeks ago.
If you are thinking of buying TOMTOM 3 please read this from the TOMTOM website.
Compatibility
- Not compatible with Holux GPS Receiver
- Not compatible with Integral Compact Flash Cards
- Not compatible with CF Type II cards (Microdrives)
- Not compatible with TomTom II Maps
I got mine working with tomtom 2 by downloading bluetooth tools patch but havent tried it with tomtom 3.

I decided to give it a try. if you have the gps already bonded make sure you delete the bonding first. Download and install the latest bluetooth tools from here
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
Set bluetooth to discoverable mode, choose "new", it will find the gps, enter code, mine is 6268, when you ok it, bluetooth tools should pop up, I chose serial/com4. Once complete, make sure bluetooth mode is "on".
Go to tomtom, choose "gps", go to the lower box where you should now see your holux gps listed, choose this then tick the large box on the left. You should now have a working tomtom3 system despite what it says on the tomtom website about it not working. :shock:

cruisin-thru said:
Once complete, make sure bluetooth mode is "on".
Go to tomtom, choose "gps", go to the lower box where you should now see your holux gps listed, choose this then tick the large box on the left. You should now have a working tomtom3 system despite what it says on the tomtom website about it not working. :shock:
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howdy.
ive got myself a holux gr230 which of course isnt listed as a supported device, but once bonded its visible in the lower box, but it wont connect. what should i select in the upper box?
im also having probs with tomtom activation. it says its activated, but when i try to go into uk maps it just says that "this activation code is not valid for Great_Britain" but the majour roads of europe version seems to work fine. ne ideas?
Cheers.
Smiley

I am using the DCONNEX DC-230 BT GPS, which is in fact a rebadged Holux GR-230.
Flawlessly.
I use Rom 1,72 with native BT stack.
Just bond the GPS, say YES to questions on assigning a COM port
In TomTom select NMEA Bluetooth and COM5
Only issue is that TomTom alsmost hangs the MDAII when it cant find the GPS (ie. GPS off, BT off, GPS out of reach).
Still looking for a solution for that . . .

I have the same problem that TOMTOM hangs. This is very annonying as sometimes I would like to check the Map in TomTOm without having my Holux Mouse with me. I then have to use TomTom Wizard to uncheck the little box in gps setting and then change to simulator :?
Before I was using BluetoothTools and TomTOm worked also fine without a GPS Mouse for a Map, but Bluetooth Tools introduced a considerable lag (looking for bluetooth headset) of the XDA when taking a call, this was also very annoying as I use the XDA2 primarily as a phone, and the phone has to work perfect ....
Greetz

WELL I'M USING 1.60 ROM ON MY XDA 2, BT TOOLS, AND I BONDED ON COM 4...BUT ALL TOMTOM 3 SHOWS IN LOWER BOX IS:
COM 2,9bt ON COM 6, AND bt GPS.....
NOTHING OF THEM WORK...
PLEASE HELP ME...

@RDKAY:
Great to hear I am not the only one suffering from the TomTom hanging without GPS connected.
BTW: What ROM are you using?

I put bluetooth in discoverable mode, it finds the holux gps, it asks "do you want this device as a serial device" answer yes. Switch bluetooth to on, in tomtom, the top box reads tomtom wireless gps, the bottom box reads com 5, it works perfectly.

Im sure you all have latest opdate from tt..or? had the same problem activating major roads, opdate solved this problem..why use wizard changing gps? uncheck recieve all incoming beams in connections, go to programs/tomtom gps change gps to any serial gps..(not uncheking gives an error message: can not open com 1: port does not exits. rom 1.66.00).
Jensen

@edsub
I am using the Imate 1.72 Rom on my T-mobile mda2... don't think it is a rom issue although...
Im sure you all have latest opdate from tt..or?
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I think it might be true that updating TT would do things better but:
I have bought TT with maps for Germany, Austria and Switzerland. And I just needed a Spain Map also which you cannot buy individually (TT just told me to buy also the Westeuropean package... :evil: ) so I got the Spain Map from Emule. :twisted:
Now when I do the TT update the Spain map doesn't work anymore, so I cannot do the update....
.why use wizard changing gps?
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Because with opening directly TT Gps its hanging my mda2 completly, I have desactived incoming beams although :roll:
But anyway phone and TomTom work fine more or less, so "never change a running system" :wink:
Cheers
Rainer

Its looking more and more towards a rom issue.
People without the issue all have iMate roms
I have Qtek rom
What is your Rom build?
Mine
Version 1.72.00WWE
Date 03/15/04
Radio 1.14.00
Protocol 1337.24
ExtRom 1.72.901 (my own)

Multiple Bluetooth Devices

Hi there guys, its been a while since posting but I have some great news regarding using multiple bluetooth devices in the car.
A few weeks ago I purchased a Navman 4410 GPS unit for my XDAII. With the new "72" rom the Navman worked perfectly with my XDAII straight out of the box over bluetooth.
Today I installed a Sony Ericsson HBC-30 bluetooth hands free carkit (Which also worked perfectly out of the box). I was interested to know if I could have the GPS unit operating and have the handsfree carkit working at the same time.
I was simply sitting in the carpark, with the GPS connected and onscreen, then I used my other phone to call my XDAII... the call came up on screen (interrupting the GPS screen) I pressed the "answer" button on the Sony Ericsson handsfree kit, and the call came through perfectly!
Once finished with the call I pressed the "hangup" button on the handsfree kit, and then a few quick taps on the screen returned me to the GPS navigation screen.
Certainly not perfect, however it appears that the bluetooth issues are finally getting resolved, and allowing us to begin using the XDAII as it was intended.

Hi Colonel, thanks for your update, it is comforting to know that they are finally sorting out BT problems.
Is there any way to get the phone screen to automatically close after finishing a call? so I don't have to manually close it to get back to my GPS screen?

No I dont think you can. Not without altering the GPS software to continually make sure its "on top" of other windows... but then you'd have a problem with seeing the "incoming call screen" as the GPS software would try to jump on top of it.

I'd be so happy simply if I could make HCB30 and Blutrek G2 headset work side by side on my Qtek...

points are:
1-where coul i get that da***n 1.72 rom for my xda 2
2-where could i get the g2 HS in italy(even worlwide...) or all over the web at reasonable price
help a newbie...

Kolonel,
I can confirm your experience as far as BT GPS is concerned.
I however still have one issue to solve: When the MDAII (=XDA2) can't connect to the GPS (BT off, GPS off, GPS out of reach) and I start TomTom3, TomTom3 keeps searching for the GPS which results in a almost freezing MDA2.
Using rom 1,72 from Qtek I bonded the BT GPS and confirmed the question about assigning a com port.
In TomTom I assigned this (COM5) com port.
All works fine except for the issue mentioned.
Does this sound familiar?
Clues?
BTW in the BT settings screen there is nothing shown about the assigned com port (just free space next to the two lines that should indicate the in- and outbound com ports). I found COM5 to be assigned to BT by trial and error . . .

edsub said:
Kolonel,
I can confirm your experience as far as BT GPS is concerned.
I however still have one issue to solve: When the MDAII (=XDA2) can't connect to the GPS (BT off, GPS off, GPS out of reach) and I start TomTom3, TomTom3 keeps searching for the GPS which results in a almost freezing MDA2.
Using rom 1,72 from Qtek I bonded the BT GPS and confirmed the question about assigning a com port.
In TomTom I assigned this (COM5) com port.
All works fine except for the issue mentioned.
Does this sound familiar?
Clues?
BTW in the BT settings screen there is nothing shown about the assigned com port (just free space next to the two lines that should indicate the in- and outbound com ports). I found COM5 to be assigned to BT by trial and error . . .
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edsub,
Are you using "Bluetooth Tools"? Because I am not, i'm using the native bluetooth stack only.
I am using "Outbound" Com port 5 ONLY for my GPS. My 1.72 rom is the IMATE rom.
Im afraid that i'm not familiar with tomtom. So I cant help you there, sorry.

I am deliberately only using native MS bT stack.
I am only using COM5 for GPS too
What does the BT Settings show under
"Bluetooth Serial Port Setup"?
With me:
"Outbound COM port" checked, but after the colon is a "<not present>" shown.
"Inbound COM port" UNchecked, after the colon is a grayed-out "<not present>" shown.
Like i said I AM able to use the GPS via COM5.
Maybe this issue is a pure TomTom issue, I think your answer could clarify that.

edsub said:
I am deliberately only using native MS bT stack.
I am only using COM5 for GPS too
What does the BT Settings show under
"Bluetooth Serial Port Setup"?
With me:
"Outbound COM port" checked, but after the colon is a "<not present>" shown.
"Inbound COM port" UNchecked, after the colon is a grayed-out "<not present>" shown.
Like i said I AM able to use the GPS via COM5.
Maybe this issue is a pure TomTom issue, I think your answer could clarify that.
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Edsub, thats really weird... mine is:
"Inbound COM port:" UN checked, and after the colon is a grayed out "COM4"
"Outbound COM port:" checked, and after the colon is a black "COM5"

bluetooth
hi guys
im using imate 172 and tomtom 3 with a sony ericsson hb35 it works first time all the time with the standard stack. it works that good i even went and sold my carkit and just got a hold instead :lol:

@Kolonel Klink: I guessed it's strange. What ROM are you using exactly (OS & Extended).
I use the 1.72 Qtek rom with my own Extended Rom (wich is based on the Qtek ExtRom to which I added T-Mobile Nl customisations). I am sure there is nothing regarding Bluetooth in my ExtRom.
I heard from someone who uses the iMate 1.72 OS Rom (with his own cooked ExtRom) that he has the same results as you have.
Just trying to find to cause of this. Maybe I have to reflash to the iMate 1.72?? (shouldnt make a difference as both iMate and Qtek OS ROM's are the same 1.72.00WWE . . . .)
@freelockuk: Most interesting is the origin of your ExtRom. Arent there any Bluetooth enhancements in that ExtRom (like there were in the 1.60.36 T-Mobile NL ExtRom) that maybe make your 1.72 work better than mine concerning Bluetooth?

addition to prev post:
I noticed that there were two BT registry settings missing to get the assigned COMport show in BT Settings.
Also noticed another interesting value:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ExtModems\bluetooth_dun]
With me this one is:
"port"="BSP9:"
In prev versions it was:
"port"="BSP4:"
Can anyone with a 1.72 ROM that has a BT GPS mouse working via SPP AND who can start Tom Tom without the BT GPS mouse 'connected' post their setting of this key??

Okay, i've not cooked my own extended rom. I'm using the stock standard one from iMate.
I did find something odd today. I went into an IT expo and I turned flight-mode on. When I was finished I left and turned flight mode off. Then got in my car. I tried to make a call and it didnt go thru the handsfree kit.
Weird! I had to repair the device. So I did... and it all worked fine again. So I turned flight mode back on then off, and I ended up with the same result. It appears to lose the pairing when you turn the flight mode on.
Very odd!

I still have not found a solution to the behaviour where TomTom locks up the MDA with is isnt able to connect to my BT GPS.
Today I found out that this same behavious accurs on devices (not just MDA, HP too) that use a serial (wired) GPS when they take the current off the GPS . . .
That means:
1. TomTom Navigator can't cope with the situation where it cant connect to the GPS that is installed
2. With me TomTom navigator is not able to use the Bluetooth protocol on its side to cope with the (for Bluetooth GPS quite usual) unavailability of the BT GPS.
Again: Can anyone post me some info on this :?: :?:
Especially the registry items under
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SerialPort]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ExtModems\bluetooth_dun]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ExtModems\bluetooth_dcn]
are of interest

@ Klink
Thanks for sharing your experiences, I'm watching them with interest.
Just wanted to as you about using your navman and the headset at the same time.
In your first post to this topic, you mentioned your 'carpark' test. I assume you weren't moving at the time, so the navman wasn't trying to give you directions.
What happens when you're driving along, getting instructions (ie. "turn left in 300m") from your navman, and the phone rings? Does the navman stop giving directions while you are talking on the phone using your BT handsfree? When you hang up does it resume giving directions again?
Thanks,
Hooligan

Emtact Trine BT GPS, Bluetrek G3 BT Headset
Like all of you my exprience is that it all works together.
But I've one problem. When navigating with TomTom and there is a incoming phone call and when I accept the call with my headset TomTom continues navigating but the sound of my QTEK2020 is muted during the call. So the instructions of TomTom cannot be heard.
I'm using plain MS BT Stack.
Regards,
Mark

This behaviour seems not the be dependent of the use of a BT headset. I have a carkit and during a call TomTom stays active in background. Sound of TomTom is muted however, which I find nice.
When the phone call is ended, TomTom starts talking again.(also nice)

first of all my nevigation program works great with the jabra 250 bt , it also mutes the program during a call is madeqreceived but :
there is anothe program that is called "ontime" that sends trqaffic status to the imate, using the gprs andthen calculates the fastest root( from junction to juction) and the problem is:
if i want to use buth progtams with royaltek gps bt rbt1000 they both need the com5 port fot bt.
to solve this problem one can use a prog called: "gpsgate" which makes a virtual port for the programs to use so u can use several program with one bt device.
for some it works only with bt tools, for others it doesnt work at all, gos knows why?!
but - if any1 needs a solution - here is one.
have a nice day , spark
QTEK 2020 - 1.72.00 WWE - 1.06.01
Back Pack - jabra 250 BT- royaltek rbt 1000 GPS BT - DESTINATOR3(LIKE TOM TOM 3) - soon will recieve sd 1gb*40

Spark, where did you get 'gpsgate'??

here is the link
http://franson.biz/gpsgate/download.asp

Bluetooth and GPS problem

Hi all, I bought a Qtek S100 and tried to connect it with my BT GPS receiver (Falcom Navi 1). It didn't work properly and I suddely lost te BT icon on the lower right hand side of the S100. It hasn't re-appeared even after several soft resets?
Does the S100 have the sae BT problems with GPS as the xdaII had?

I use BT GPS and the only problem so far is that I have to re-pair them sometimes.
Try Start->Settings->Connections->Bluetooth to get to the same screen as you would get to by clicking the BT icon.

THanks for the reply. Which BT GPS do you use? and with what Navigation program?

Holux GR-231 and TomTom3.

I am having problem with Bluetooth GPS as well. I have 2, one is iTrek Bluetooth GPS and one is ArcoreTech Bluetooth GPS.
Since I have tried both GPS units, I am pretty sure it's i-Mate JAM's Bluetooth problem.
Instead of upgrading my ROM to 1.06.00 WWE, I should have tried it out with version 1.03 first. I upgraded from 1.03 to 1.06 as soon as my JAM finished charging. BIG MISTAKE!
I ended up usiing "Pocket Bluetooth Tool" to designate COM8 (for example) for my GPS. However, if I happen to soft reset or turn of Bluetooth, I would have to pair it again.
I read many article's on the internet and the problem seems to point to the MS Bluetooth stack (instead of Widcomm used in my i-Mate PDA2K - and by the way PDA2K works perfectly with my GPS units).
Hopefuly i-Mate will address this problem during the next ROM update.

So how come Loboman's holux works ok?
Loboman are you using a different BT stack?

I would like to guess that he uses ROM version 1.03...
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So how come Loboman's holux works ok?
Loboman are you using a different BT stack?
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I use 1.06.00. All i do is that I tap on the BT icon, choose 'Devices', tap 'New...' and waits until the phone finds the GPS. Then I add it and pair it with the passkey. Then I had to scan all serial ports using a program that Holux supplies (I bet it works with any BT reciever though) to find out that my port was COM5 and finally I set my programs to use COM5. As I previously stated, I do have to re-pair them sometimes for some reason, but I can live with that.
I previously had an Acore unit which worked ok with my iPAQ 5450 (also MS BT stack) in WM2003. It took me all the way from northern Sweden to Barcelona in Spain last summer
I have not used Pocket Bluetooth Tool, but I have read about it. I think that it works without it so far. I also leave my BT on 24/7 since I don't think that it uses too much battery.
I hope things work out for you.

Absolutley no problems with Rom 1.01.01 Ger and Navilock BT-308 GPS-Mouse

I am not sure if the following has anything to do with Bluetooth but at least it cured my Bluetooth vs. GPS problem, for now.
On Club i-Mate's ROM update page, I found out that if the radio version is 1.10, then I am NOT suppose to apply the camera patch. After I uninstalled it, my JAM seems to work better with Bluetooth GPS units. My biggest problems were:
1. Once I soft reset my JAM, I have to re-pair my GPS units.
2. PrymeNav software took a long time to scan for GPS - and crashes sometimes when I designate already-scanned port.
3. Unable to hold two paired GPS units in Bluetooth Device List (though only used on at a time).
I have played with it after I uninstalled the camera patch and to this morning my GPS units still function well. Another key is to turn on the GPS unit and make sure it is linked (as indicated by its LED) - then turn on the GPS software. That way the hardwares are ensured to be linked.
As a side bonus, now I can perform Bluetooth Activesync on my Mac (via PocketMac software). However, I still require Pocket Bluetooth Tool installed on my JAM.
Weird!

Orange SPV M500 Tom Tom Navigator/Bluetooth GPS Problem.

Hi there!
I've recently got a M500 and I have a cellink BTG-7000 Bluetooth GPS Reciever.
I can pair the M500 & Reciever but when I go into the Tom Tom Navigator it does not find the Reciever when I go to Preferences. (there are com ports there but no matter what port I select it doesnt find it)
Any ideas why?

Hi,
I had simular probs. after pairing with another BT device. Just paired with the GPS & all was fine, so
- make sure the GPS is the last paired device
- create a com port for the GPS
- try upgrading radio
- get another BT stack
I'm having the stack from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33532 but can't say it solved it or not. But it works & I can use the BT GPS & a BT earpiece at the same time.
Good luck, M

How do I create a com port for the GPS? I dont seem to have that option.

My BT stack asks me whether to create a com port for it when I pair with my GPS. Also under the BT connection settings I've got a tab which read 'COM ports'.
Cheers, M

Mine doesn't have any of these options, strange?!
I guess thats the problem, it seems my M500 doesnt let you manually assign a port.
Any ideas on a fix then?

I am on radio 1.12 & got those options from radio 1.11 on. You can try the updated BT stack from the thread 'O2 mini new BT stock'
Maybe that helP as well, otherwise upgrade your radio.
Cheers, M

Take the wired gps, baudrate 9600 en after that test some comports. It takes a while when TT detects the receiver, so hold on a bit. Most of the time it is comport 4 or 5.

what version are you using, i had similar problems,
I found that if you install version 5.1 or 5.2 straight on then it will not find the gps.
i installed the original 5.0 from cd. then got GPS working. TomTom may ask you to reset the device to configure gps [it did for me].
i then upgraded to 5.1 then 5.2 and everything works perfectly.

what version are you using, i had similar problems,
I found that if you install version 5.1 or 5.2 straight on then it will not find the gps.
i installed the original 5.0 from cd. then got GPS working. TomTom may ask you to reset the device to configure gps [it did for me].
i then upgraded to 5.1 then 5.2 and everything works perfectly.

I initially had the same problem with my BT GPS device and tomtom 5.0, but pairing them just before loading up tomtom and setting it to COM 5 and then waiting a while seemed to solve it!
Good luck!

Got-it!
Duh!
I must have missed something here, so I'm posting this for the few people who are thicker than I must be;-
When setting the BT com port under 'Bluetooth settings', the outgoing com port selection window is blank.
HOWEVER, choose 'settings>system>bluetooth setting' and voila!, that is where you see that COM5 is pre-chosen. (Why there needs to be a double-entry is another matter?)
Hope this saves someone some time.

MDA compact tomtom 5 cant see my GPS - please help

Have spent a long time trying to get my tomtom5 navigator working on my mda and now have it all going lovely - however I cant get my bluetooth reciever to be seen by tomtom. It is one of the BT-77 one that you see loads of on Ebay - did used to have it working with my old phone but not this one?
Any ideas - cant give up now!
Thanks
ROger

I have the same problem with an xdalls with a BT338 bluetooth gps.
I can get it to pair up. Tomtom5 does not see it though. Been thru all the settings that i can thing of.... i have the blue light flashing fast and then just logs off.
Paul

I have the BT-77 (also from ebay) and it works perfectly with the TomTom 5.21 software...
I had trouble with it initially too- it's to do with setting the right COM ports.
To get things working, I downloaded and installed Pocket Bluetooth Tools:
http://www.bluetooth.jazztel.es/ Download version 1.0.1.2
Delete any existing pair that you may have with the GPS receiver...
Re-pair the device with the above software installed, and now you will get an iconic menu, use the serial port option and select an available COM port. Complete pairing procedure as per on screen instruction.
Now start up TomTom and go to GPS options in preferences- select 'other bluetooth device' and now you should see the something called 'BT on COMx' x being the port you assigned earlier of course. Complete configuration.
Wait for the receiver to get a fix and you should be ready to go.
I've used the Pocket Bluetooth Tools many times on different variants of the Magician and has work everytime.

Hi
thanks for the info - but still nothing
cant cope anymore
will buy a whole new system i think!
Thanks anyway
Roger

HELLO!
Well at last it works - not really sure why?
But I dont care it works!
thanks for the help
Roger

Hi!
Just registered to try and find out how to get my MDA II working with a bluetooth GPS and I find this thread. Thank you for the link to the bluetooth tools it seems to have worked a treat.

Cool. Glad it is working for you guys.
The software also works well with using Bluetooth and ActiveSync.