HTC X-Button - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

HTC X-Button is now on the upload FTP in the Tools and Programs area - works great on the Hermes - use the new applet in the Settings menu to configure.

Thanks, moved to safe heaven: HTC X-Button.CAB

Report: Did not work on my 8525.

@patmannyc:
You have to enable it here first:
Start -> Settings -> System -> X-Button

Perfect...
Running well on my UNI_Beta 3.2..
Thank's

does this app allow real closing via the ok button as well as the x button?

It works great on my O2 trion ^^

LeoPheonix said:
does this app allow real closing via the ok button as well as the x button?
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Nope only the X button.

LeoPheonix said:
does this app allow real closing via the ok button as well as the x button?
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No, this program allow close program by tapping "x" on the screen .

Thanks,
I uess there is no point in using this if you already have something like spb today plus then.
I nearly got excited!

LeoPheonix said:
Thanks,
I uess there is no point in using this if you already have something like spb today plus then.
I nearly got excited!
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Probably not much point as you say. I'm going to try it just to see all the options it has. If it's good it stays, if not bye bye!!
Mike

A very lightweight version instead of having to have something better, which is good.
I wish they'd integrate it with the ok/close buttons on the device though to make one handed use easier. By that I mean, press button = ok, hold button = close.

This or magic button? I feel magic button is better, lets u see the taskbar.

It does what it was intended to. Good work.

sutheep: yes, i tried this and stay with magic button 2

program is a bit cleaner than magicbuttons.
anyway, just need to find a simple battery program (since I've been using the one in magicbuttons anyway)

If you are looking for a small battery monitoring program try to find the program named "batti". It's really small and work good.

I found that, unlike other similar software, it closes ActiveSync, and handles not responding apps just like on BB: shows a message that the app does not respond and offers to kill it.

i thing it has a bug. try to tap x button when phone app active, it closes down phone app and it realy kills it so your phone app won't start anymore

Wouldn't SmartsKey works to achieve this?

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how to completely close applications?

I find that when I visit SETTINGS --> SYSTEM tab --> MEMORY --> RUNNING PROGRAMS tab, there are always several applications running. It seems to be ones I have used and I pressed the cross or OK on the top right cornerto close it, but hey don't actually completely close. Is there a way to make sure they are closed and not running in the background?
You can install a task manager.
I recommend:
Wisbad Advance 2 (free as it is beta right now)
Good luck
how to realy close programs
im using the best software i think the "battery pack 2.1.1". this software will give u some other great stuff.
http://www.omegaone.com/batterypack/pro/default.htm
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Magic Button from http://www.trancreative.com
Freeware as well, and will enable you to toggle the top bar between the standard window title and a neat windows-like task bar.
the one and only CloseAll does the work.
wow guys, thanks a lot for your speedy suggestions. I will check them out, thanks again.
My VJOkButt is a very low profile task killer and can also be used with AE button plus to replace the red key, since it will also simulate hanging up phone calls. So you don't lose a button, but merely double it's existing functionality.
V
Another vote for MagicButton. Very small memory footprint, shows you which tasks are running on the status bar, can choose which apps it leaves alone, and gives a battery meter too. I found that WA/PocketPlus/BatteryPack etc were all too much of a resource hog on the Wizard.
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erez29 said:
im using the best software i think the "battery pack 2.1.1". this software will give u some other great stuff.
http://www.omegaone.com/batterypack/pro/default.htm
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Be VERY careful with Battery Pack Pro.
Totally banjaxed my K-JAM, I had to do a hard reset to recover.
I am currently trialing Spb Pocket Plus.
Does what you want plus a whole load more and has NOT caused any problems on my PDA.
Except it would not work when installed on my MiniSD card only installed internally.
Robin
I am using DinarSoft's HandySwitcher it is also very small and unobtrusive
Re: how to realy close programs
erez29 said:
im using the best software i think the "battery pack 2.1.1". this software will give u some other great stuff.
http://www.omegaone.com/batterypack/pro/default.htm
bye
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Be VERY careful with Battery Pack Pro.
Totally banjaxed my K-JAM, I had to do a hard reset to recover.
I am currently trialing Spb Pocket Plus.
Does what you want plus a whole load more and has NOT caused any problems on my PDA.
Except it would not work when installed on my MiniSD card only installed internally.
Robin
I have loaded MagicButton on my Qtek 9100 and it works realy nice. But when I check AutoStart option in Settings, and turn device off and on error message appears that mbutton cannot be opened as it is not signed with trusted cerificate. Any tip how to avoid this message?
I switched to Magic Button, but the biggest problem is that it cannot be used with a hardware key .
I'm using the PIE hardware key as Ok/Close, but MB is just minimizing the apps, not closing them, which is really annoying.
If someone made it to close apps, please share ... if it is not possible, I'll switch to other task manager.
Try HandySwitcher from DinarSoft it can be assigned to a HW button. It can also sit on your tray and/or topbar.
bnycastro said:
Try HandySwitcher from DinarSoft it can be assigned to a HW button. It can also sit on your tray and/or topbar.
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tried it. i assigned it to the PIE (internet explorer) hardware button but when i press it, it just brings up its menu.
what i want to do is to close apps when pressing the PIE button or any other hardware button
just tried vijay's vjokbutt, works like a charm for me, does what I want
RE
Can HandySwitcher or MagicButton close PIE or OPERA?
If not, then which task switcher can?
Thanks
@kelu: HS is actually a Task Manager so it will show you the list of running tasks and wait for you to decide which to close [that is why you see the menu and task list] to individually close an app you may tap the 'ok' button or do a 'tap-n-hold' [depends on what you put in the settings] of course this is not done via hw buttons. What I do when I don't have a stylus handy is I just hit the hw button and select 'Close All' now it may be a hassle to some people with multiple apps running but too me it is ok since I rarely run multiple apps [or more often than not I close the app when I am done via 'close all' before running the next one].
you can actually close applications by using the SIP keyboard and choosing CTRL-Q
this has worked ever since my Casio E105 (man, that was a long time ago...)
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@kelu: HS is actually a Task Manager so it will show you the list of running tasks and wait for you to decide which to close [that is why you see the menu and task list] to individually close an app you may tap the 'ok' button or do a 'tap-n-hold' [depends on what you put in the settings] of course this is not done via hw buttons. What I do when I don't have a stylus handy is I just hit the hw button and select 'Close All' now it may be a hassle to some people with multiple apps running but too me it is ok since I rarely run multiple apps [or more often than not I close the app when I am done via 'close all' before running the next one].
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yes u are right, the ok/close functionality via a hardware button is not really conected to the task listing of a task manager, but nevertheless I found it very usefull
as a task manager now I use SmallMenu and GSPPocketMagic (I'm testing both to decide), as they are very light and they also extend the start menu

Phone app will not close / Programs window won't close

The most annoying thing ever!
The bloody app/programs window wont close!!
And not even hitting the k/b win logo > Today will work either.
Not even magic button works - only a soft reset will do it . then you are waiting till you either use the phone or venture stupidly into MyPrograms
Bloody infuriating..
anyone have a solution?
cheers guys,
LR
The phone app works best if you mark it as "Keep Alive" and "Don't show when inactive" in Magic Button. I've seen the "Programs" issue you mentioned, but selecting "Today" always gets rid of it for me.
Cheers,
Steve.
thx I will give the M. Button options a whirl!
Did you guys found a solution on the small blank square spot on the upper right hand corner of the screen where the OK button lies when using Magic Button?
Sorry - not sure what problem you are refering to...
Cheers,
Steve.
No problem with Magic Button...
For killing phone app, I found 2 utilities working...
First Xbar3...let you show the phone app and a trick to kill it.
Second one...http://www.vijay555.com/index.php?Releases:VJPhoneToggle works on 2003se and 2005 Qtek 9000.
Curious. Why would you want to close the Phone app?
Isn't it the whole point of the device?
If you use your pocketphone more as a pda than a phone, the phone app takes somme Mb of memory... Really closing it after a call give you the possibility to take some precious Mbytes back for running programs...
VJOkButt also has a specific option, -phclose, to close the phone after each use - very useful when assigned to the red hangup key with AEButtonPlus.
Note, closing the phone doesn't stop the phone ringing, so does save you some memory without sacrificing the phone's functionality, but it does cause a minor incompatibility - trying to dial from Contacts may crash out.
However, in day to day use I don't recommend closing the phone unless you're really tight on mem.
V
StevePritchard said:
Sorry - not sure what problem you are refering to...
Cheers,
Steve.
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bonisalive said:
No problem with Magic Button...
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Actually, it is not a problem but an aesthetic concern on my part. I am not using any skin program. The last time I tried Magic Button, if I am at the today screen with no open application, the location on the upper right hand corner where the "OK" button is shows a blank square. I was just wondering if I am the only one who had this oddity.
I have no skinning soft and I don't have a blank square... The color of that part of the taskbar, when nothing written, is the same than the rest of the bar. But I read stuffs like yours on other forums...
bonisalive said:
I have no skinning soft and I don't have a blank square... The color of that part of the taskbar, when nothing written, is the same than the rest of the bar. But I read stuffs like yours on other forums...
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I just tried Magic Button again, and no blank square. HOOOORRRRRAYYYY! I wonder what made that skin problem in the first place...
StevePritchard said:
The phone app works best if you mark it as "Keep Alive" and "Don't show when inactive" in Magic Button. I've seen the "Programs" issue you mentioned, but selecting "Today" always gets rid of it for me.
Cheers,
Steve.
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I can't seem to find this option in Magic Button. Can you please direct me on how?

Any way to switch between open apps???

Hey there guys. I previosly owned mostly symbian phones. Now I have a WM5 one. So my problem is: is there any way (trick) to switch between open apps on my device? This is a prob lem for me because , for instance, I had the IMplus (mesenger app) open , my phone entered standby after the period that I chose (2 minutes) and when I tapped the screen , my app was gone somewhere in the background. So I had to look it up again through the menu, and reopen it. It was working of course, but it was in the background. So is there any way, like it is on symbian, to find your opened apps and choose which one to bring back into the mainscreen, using only a simple button press or smth like that? Or maybe at least an app to do that?
Thank you.
magic button, GSPocketMagic, and a hundred other softwares...
LOL. Yes thank you. So nothing embedded already, but lots of apps to do that. Got it thanks.
I like SmallMenu Plus.
V
Smellmenu Plus is fantastic, in addition to the task manager aspect, there's the cascading start menu. It's the first thing to go on any of my devices, and with the scrollwheel of the hermes, it's twice as good as normal. Makes one-handed operation so much easier.
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Smellmenu Plus is fantastic, in addition to the task manager aspect, there's the cascading start menu. It's the first thing to go on any of my devices, and with the scrollwheel of the hermes, it's twice as good as normal. Makes one-handed operation so much easier.
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SmellMenu? Gosh this is better than I thought.
Please add your own jokes here . . .
WisBar, PocketPlus, iLauncher ... Tons of others ..
I use AE button Plus. It cheap and will give you exactly what you are looking for as well as a Alt Tab. It will multiply what your hard buttons can do x4.
Thanks guys , I got an idea now.... Using Magic Button for now, but I will try Button Plus right now.
leoking3 said:
Thanks guys , I got an idea now.... Using Magic Button for now, but I will try Button Plus right now.
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Tell me how you like it.

is there a way to close a program right away

or will it always run in the backround until you end all tasks
thanks
msoprano13 said:
or will it always run in the backround until you end all tasks
thanks
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Depends on the program. I have found that if you hit the back arrow key a few times it closes some of the running apps.
hold the 'home' button > task manager > end all task
that's the fastest way i guess.,,
The only program i know of which ends when you close it is IE. If i hit the red button to exit the browser, it completely shuts down the program. I'm using the dash 3G. It didnt used to be this way on the original Dash.....you can also set your shortcut key to task manager if you wanted to.
how do you change a short cut key to task manager??
thanks
msoprano13 said:
how do you change a short cut key to task manager??
thanks
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Start > all programs > Accessories > Highlight Task Manager and hit Menu then Add Speed Dial.
I use 3, but pretty much any would work (Besides the number 1)
Shortcut Key on Dash 3G
msoprano13 said:
how do you change a short cut key to task manager??
thanks
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I have Task Manager set as the long press for the Shortcut Key (bottom right of the Dash 3G keyboard) (short press = Comm Mgr). Set this by Start/More/Settings/More/More/More/(5) Shortcut Key
Then you can make it either the "Short press" function or the "Press and hold" function.
Snap & Ozone don't have that key available though ...
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or will it always run in the backround until you end all tasks
thanks
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You don't really need to... The Maple has SOOOO much freakin RAM, I've never gone below 60MB yet, even with my WM 6.5 test ROM (coming soon).
ookba said:
You don't really need to... The Maple has SOOOO much freakin RAM, I've never gone below 60MB yet, even with my WM 6.5 test ROM (coming soon).
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I'm a complete Windows Mobile newbie, and this seems very strange and very Microsoft to me. How shocking that there isn't a way to switch apps or close apps beyond the task manager, but nearly every app lacks a well defined close button. Maybe I'm spoiled after playing with the Palm Pre in the store for awhile today.
EDIT: after using the snap a bit more i've set the task manager to one of the speed dial shortcuts. that definitely helps, but i'm still looking into how to make the mycircle button bring up the task man. my other thought is that it would be great if the end button closed your currently running application (maybe with a confirmation prompt). then the home button could still be used to return to the today screen and you wouldn't have duplicated functionality between the home and end buttons.
dougmwpsu said:
I'm a complete Windows Mobile newbie, and this seems very strange and very Microsoft to me. How shocking that there isn't a way to switch apps or close apps beyond the task manager, but nearly every app lacks a well defined close button. Maybe I'm spoiled after playing with the Palm Pre in the store for awhile today.
EDIT: after using the snap a bit more i've set the task manager to one of the speed dial shortcuts. that definitely helps, but i'm still looking into how to make the mycircle button bring up the task man. my other thought is that it would be great if the end button closed your currently running application (maybe with a confirmation prompt). then the home button could still be used to return to the today screen and you wouldn't have duplicated functionality between the home and end buttons.
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You could create a Mortscript to map the mycircle button, a bit harder to write one for the currently running app.. now I got my thinking cap on lol

HD2 Multitasking

I have searched around the net and watched almost all youtube videos about the HD2. I still need to know about how the phone handles multitasking... I am quite sure it does multitask though..
Android: Long press on the home-menu button to bring up latest apps. + Task manager apps to kill running apps.
Nokia/Maemo: Big element of core design. Screen with live feed windows. Each window can be shot down seperatly.
iPhone: No multitasking
HD2: ?? Anything like a task manager here??
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I have searched around the net and watched almost all youtube videos about the HD2. I still need to know about how the phone handles multitasking... I am quite sure it does multitask though..
Android: Long press on the home-menu button to bring up latest apps. + Task manager apps to kill running apps.
Nokia/Maemo: Big element of core design. Screen with live feed windows. Each window can be shot down seperatly.
iPhone: No multitasking
HD2: ?? Anything like a task manager here??
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thats a stupid question all ppc's can multitask, infact win mob comes with its own task/processes manager lol
mancsoulja said:
thats a stupid question all ppc's can multitask, infact win mob comes with its own task/processes manager lol
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There's no such thing as a stupid question.
In this case there's only a "narrowminded, pissed off and angry with his live"-kinda question.
<3
I still need to know about how the phone handles multitasking... I am quite sure it does multitask though..
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When I saw it a week ago, the presenter pressed a small button on right side of the screen while in home display to bring up the list of applications running. So in a sense, quite similar to N900, except that it was a list, not thumbnails.
What I would be interested to know if there's a way to remap a hardware key to bring up the task manager. Personally I would think this would be more useful for me that the start-key.
fouro said:
When I saw it a week ago, the presenter pressed a small button on right side of the screen while in home display to bring up the list of applications running. So in a sense, quite similar to N900, except that it was a list, not thumbnails.
What I would be interested to know if there's a way to remap a hardware key to bring up the task manager. Personally I would think this would be more useful for me that the start-key.
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There are a few other nice solutions:
WkTask shows the running apps as small icons on the taskbar - kinda like in Windows on the desktop computer. By tapping on the icons, you can easily switch between different runningapps with as outreturning to the homescreen in between. Its freeware, although donations are surely appreciated by the creator...
AEButtonsPlus can display a listf running apps following a hardware button press, so you can switch by tapping on a listed item.
dnt forget we can use the xperia panels now, that works as a nice visual task manager
Thanks, those solutions look quite interesting and probably will be what I'm looking for. I'll have to give them a try when I'll get the device.
Heres some pics so you know what were on about
1) xperia panels (You can get that free here)
2) Htc Task Manager (You Get That with every htc device)
3) Showcase (You also can get that free here)
3) Showcase (You also can get that free here)
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I just found the Showcase myself too. It seems really brilliant application.. simple and finger friendly.
Just need to figure out how I can remap a hardware button (like start button) to start this instead. But as far as I understand, that shouldn't be big issue.
But I guess that should be what I was after with this: easily accessable task manager so I can switch applications quick.
fouro said:
I just found the Showcase myself too. It seems really brilliant application.. simple and finger friendly.
Just need to figure out how I can remap a hardware button (like start button) to start this instead. But as far as I understand, that shouldn't be big issue.
But I guess that should be what I was after with this: easily accessable task manager so I can switch applications quick.
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Showcases default setting is set to open when you press and hold the start button
Showcases default setting is set to open when you press and hold the start button
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Now if I only could get it without holding it, but just pressing...
But thanks, that alone should be enough too. And I'll probably manage to find out how to modify it before I'll get my phone, if it's possible.
fouro said:
Now if I only could get it without holding it, but just pressing...
But thanks, that alone should be enough too. And I'll probably manage to find out how to modify it before I'll get my phone, if it's possible.
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if you set it to just a press, how would you get to the start menu lol
if you set it to just a press, how would you get to the start menu lol
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If I've understood correct, it should be accessible through home-screen, just pressing the start from top-left corner? This should be enough for me if I have 9 shortcuts in home screen anyway. Probably don't need that fast access to rest of aplications.
Just a personal preference, but I'd like to be able to access task manager fast. Just so I can juggle between browser, ssh terminal (irssi) etc easily.Currently with my Nokia E71 I can access it by pressing home-button for a second and would prefer a dedicated button for this.
fouro said:
If I've understood correct, it should be accessible through home-screen, just pressing the start from top-left corner? This should be enough for me if I have 9 shortcuts in home screen anyway. Probably don't need that fast access to rest of aplications.
Just a personal preference, but I'd like to be able to access task manager fast. Just so I can juggle between browser, ssh terminal (irssi) etc easily.Currently with my Nokia E71 I can access it by pressing home-button for a second and would prefer a dedicated button for this.
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Not on the newer windows mobile 6.5.1 roms, microsoft moved the start button from the top to the bottom, suppose to make it more like windows by the way you can set showcase up so it opens if you tap the top right hand corner where the clock is
mancsoulja said:
Showcases default setting is set to open when you press and hold the start button
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Does not work this way on the HD2, and also a no-go with pressing and holding the Windows hardware button.
erdoke said:
Does not work this way on the HD2, and also a no-go with pressing and holding the Windows hardware button.
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How come it's a no-go to do that?XD
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How come it's a no-go to do that?XD
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Also, X button enhancement does not work perfectly. On the capacitive screen I can't slide my finger to the left to activate different functions of Showcase. Only the one to the right can be used. It works fine when operating through a PC with Remote Controller, so I am sure this is due to the different screen technology.
erdoke said:
Also, X button enhancement does not work perfectly. On the capacitive screen I can't slide my finger to the left to activate different functions of Showcase. Only the one to the right can be used. It works fine when operating through a PC with Remote Controller, so I am sure this is due to the different screen technology.
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Yeah, for some reason HD2 renders the X button enhancement useless. So, is there actually any way to access Showcase (or any similar task manager for that matter) by long pressing any of the hard keys? I really wish there was more convenient ways to switch between applications.
Kinda funny how Apple's ineptitude has people thinking, all over again, asif Multitasking is something special.
Any windows version since way back when does multitasking.
You know what the funny part is, the iPhone can actually multi task, but Apple won't allow it for some reason Steve Jobs' mind spewed out and only he can understand.
JanSchotsmans said:
You know what the funny part is, the iPhone can actually multi task, but Apple won't allow it for some reason Steve Jobs' mind spewed out and only he can understand.
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They can activate it later and sell a new wave of $600 phones.
Remember when they released video? It was very exciting for a lot of people. I recall video recording the festivities on my three year old Windows Mobile phone at the time.

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