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how to completely close applications?

I find that when I visit SETTINGS --> SYSTEM tab --> MEMORY --> RUNNING PROGRAMS tab, there are always several applications running. It seems to be ones I have used and I pressed the cross or OK on the top right cornerto close it, but hey don't actually completely close. Is there a way to make sure they are closed and not running in the background?

You can install a task manager.
I recommend:
Wisbad Advance 2 (free as it is beta right now)
Good luck

how to realy close programs
im using the best software i think the "battery pack 2.1.1". this software will give u some other great stuff.
http://www.omegaone.com/batterypack/pro/default.htm
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Magic Button from http://www.trancreative.com
Freeware as well, and will enable you to toggle the top bar between the standard window title and a neat windows-like task bar.

the one and only CloseAll does the work.

wow guys, thanks a lot for your speedy suggestions. I will check them out, thanks again.

My VJOkButt is a very low profile task killer and can also be used with AE button plus to replace the red key, since it will also simulate hanging up phone calls. So you don't lose a button, but merely double it's existing functionality.
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Another vote for MagicButton. Very small memory footprint, shows you which tasks are running on the status bar, can choose which apps it leaves alone, and gives a battery meter too. I found that WA/PocketPlus/BatteryPack etc were all too much of a resource hog on the Wizard.

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erez29 said:
im using the best software i think the "battery pack 2.1.1". this software will give u some other great stuff.
http://www.omegaone.com/batterypack/pro/default.htm
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Be VERY careful with Battery Pack Pro.
Totally banjaxed my K-JAM, I had to do a hard reset to recover.
I am currently trialing Spb Pocket Plus.
Does what you want plus a whole load more and has NOT caused any problems on my PDA.
Except it would not work when installed on my MiniSD card only installed internally.
Robin

I am using DinarSoft's HandySwitcher it is also very small and unobtrusive

Re: how to realy close programs
erez29 said:
im using the best software i think the "battery pack 2.1.1". this software will give u some other great stuff.
http://www.omegaone.com/batterypack/pro/default.htm
bye
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Be VERY careful with Battery Pack Pro.
Totally banjaxed my K-JAM, I had to do a hard reset to recover.
I am currently trialing Spb Pocket Plus.
Does what you want plus a whole load more and has NOT caused any problems on my PDA.
Except it would not work when installed on my MiniSD card only installed internally.
Robin

I have loaded MagicButton on my Qtek 9100 and it works realy nice. But when I check AutoStart option in Settings, and turn device off and on error message appears that mbutton cannot be opened as it is not signed with trusted cerificate. Any tip how to avoid this message?

I switched to Magic Button, but the biggest problem is that it cannot be used with a hardware key .
I'm using the PIE hardware key as Ok/Close, but MB is just minimizing the apps, not closing them, which is really annoying.
If someone made it to close apps, please share ... if it is not possible, I'll switch to other task manager.

Try HandySwitcher from DinarSoft it can be assigned to a HW button. It can also sit on your tray and/or topbar.

bnycastro said:
Try HandySwitcher from DinarSoft it can be assigned to a HW button. It can also sit on your tray and/or topbar.
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tried it. i assigned it to the PIE (internet explorer) hardware button but when i press it, it just brings up its menu.
what i want to do is to close apps when pressing the PIE button or any other hardware button

just tried vijay's vjokbutt, works like a charm for me, does what I want

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Can HandySwitcher or MagicButton close PIE or OPERA?
If not, then which task switcher can?
Thanks

@kelu: HS is actually a Task Manager so it will show you the list of running tasks and wait for you to decide which to close [that is why you see the menu and task list] to individually close an app you may tap the 'ok' button or do a 'tap-n-hold' [depends on what you put in the settings] of course this is not done via hw buttons. What I do when I don't have a stylus handy is I just hit the hw button and select 'Close All' now it may be a hassle to some people with multiple apps running but too me it is ok since I rarely run multiple apps [or more often than not I close the app when I am done via 'close all' before running the next one].

you can actually close applications by using the SIP keyboard and choosing CTRL-Q
this has worked ever since my Casio E105 (man, that was a long time ago...)

bnycastro said:
@kelu: HS is actually a Task Manager so it will show you the list of running tasks and wait for you to decide which to close [that is why you see the menu and task list] to individually close an app you may tap the 'ok' button or do a 'tap-n-hold' [depends on what you put in the settings] of course this is not done via hw buttons. What I do when I don't have a stylus handy is I just hit the hw button and select 'Close All' now it may be a hassle to some people with multiple apps running but too me it is ok since I rarely run multiple apps [or more often than not I close the app when I am done via 'close all' before running the next one].
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yes u are right, the ok/close functionality via a hardware button is not really conected to the task listing of a task manager, but nevertheless I found it very usefull
as a task manager now I use SmallMenu and GSPPocketMagic (I'm testing both to decide), as they are very light and they also extend the start menu

HTC X-Button

HTC X-Button is now on the upload FTP in the Tools and Programs area - works great on the Hermes - use the new applet in the Settings menu to configure.

Thanks, moved to safe heaven: HTC X-Button.CAB

Report: Did not work on my 8525.

@patmannyc:
You have to enable it here first:
Start -> Settings -> System -> X-Button

Perfect...
Running well on my UNI_Beta 3.2..
Thank's

does this app allow real closing via the ok button as well as the x button?

It works great on my O2 trion ^^

LeoPheonix said:
does this app allow real closing via the ok button as well as the x button?
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Nope only the X button.

LeoPheonix said:
does this app allow real closing via the ok button as well as the x button?
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No, this program allow close program by tapping "x" on the screen .

Thanks,
I uess there is no point in using this if you already have something like spb today plus then.
I nearly got excited!

LeoPheonix said:
Thanks,
I uess there is no point in using this if you already have something like spb today plus then.
I nearly got excited!
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Probably not much point as you say. I'm going to try it just to see all the options it has. If it's good it stays, if not bye bye!!
Mike

A very lightweight version instead of having to have something better, which is good.
I wish they'd integrate it with the ok/close buttons on the device though to make one handed use easier. By that I mean, press button = ok, hold button = close.

This or magic button? I feel magic button is better, lets u see the taskbar.

It does what it was intended to. Good work.

sutheep: yes, i tried this and stay with magic button 2

program is a bit cleaner than magicbuttons.
anyway, just need to find a simple battery program (since I've been using the one in magicbuttons anyway)

If you are looking for a small battery monitoring program try to find the program named "batti". It's really small and work good.

I found that, unlike other similar software, it closes ActiveSync, and handles not responding apps just like on BB: shows a message that the app does not respond and offers to kill it.

i thing it has a bug. try to tap x button when phone app active, it closes down phone app and it realy kills it so your phone app won't start anymore

Wouldn't SmartsKey works to achieve this?

HD2 Multitasking

I have searched around the net and watched almost all youtube videos about the HD2. I still need to know about how the phone handles multitasking... I am quite sure it does multitask though..
Android: Long press on the home-menu button to bring up latest apps. + Task manager apps to kill running apps.
Nokia/Maemo: Big element of core design. Screen with live feed windows. Each window can be shot down seperatly.
iPhone: No multitasking
HD2: ?? Anything like a task manager here??

kasperknop said:
I have searched around the net and watched almost all youtube videos about the HD2. I still need to know about how the phone handles multitasking... I am quite sure it does multitask though..
Android: Long press on the home-menu button to bring up latest apps. + Task manager apps to kill running apps.
Nokia/Maemo: Big element of core design. Screen with live feed windows. Each window can be shot down seperatly.
iPhone: No multitasking
HD2: ?? Anything like a task manager here??
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thats a stupid question all ppc's can multitask, infact win mob comes with its own task/processes manager lol

mancsoulja said:
thats a stupid question all ppc's can multitask, infact win mob comes with its own task/processes manager lol
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There's no such thing as a stupid question.
In this case there's only a "narrowminded, pissed off and angry with his live"-kinda question.
<3

I still need to know about how the phone handles multitasking... I am quite sure it does multitask though..
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When I saw it a week ago, the presenter pressed a small button on right side of the screen while in home display to bring up the list of applications running. So in a sense, quite similar to N900, except that it was a list, not thumbnails.
What I would be interested to know if there's a way to remap a hardware key to bring up the task manager. Personally I would think this would be more useful for me that the start-key.

fouro said:
When I saw it a week ago, the presenter pressed a small button on right side of the screen while in home display to bring up the list of applications running. So in a sense, quite similar to N900, except that it was a list, not thumbnails.
What I would be interested to know if there's a way to remap a hardware key to bring up the task manager. Personally I would think this would be more useful for me that the start-key.
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There are a few other nice solutions:
WkTask shows the running apps as small icons on the taskbar - kinda like in Windows on the desktop computer. By tapping on the icons, you can easily switch between different runningapps with as outreturning to the homescreen in between. Its freeware, although donations are surely appreciated by the creator...
AEButtonsPlus can display a listf running apps following a hardware button press, so you can switch by tapping on a listed item.

dnt forget we can use the xperia panels now, that works as a nice visual task manager

Thanks, those solutions look quite interesting and probably will be what I'm looking for. I'll have to give them a try when I'll get the device.

Heres some pics so you know what were on about
1) xperia panels (You can get that free here)
2) Htc Task Manager (You Get That with every htc device)
3) Showcase (You also can get that free here)

3) Showcase (You also can get that free here)
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I just found the Showcase myself too. It seems really brilliant application.. simple and finger friendly.
Just need to figure out how I can remap a hardware button (like start button) to start this instead. But as far as I understand, that shouldn't be big issue.
But I guess that should be what I was after with this: easily accessable task manager so I can switch applications quick.

fouro said:
I just found the Showcase myself too. It seems really brilliant application.. simple and finger friendly.
Just need to figure out how I can remap a hardware button (like start button) to start this instead. But as far as I understand, that shouldn't be big issue.
But I guess that should be what I was after with this: easily accessable task manager so I can switch applications quick.
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Showcases default setting is set to open when you press and hold the start button

Showcases default setting is set to open when you press and hold the start button
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Now if I only could get it without holding it, but just pressing...
But thanks, that alone should be enough too. And I'll probably manage to find out how to modify it before I'll get my phone, if it's possible.

fouro said:
Now if I only could get it without holding it, but just pressing...
But thanks, that alone should be enough too. And I'll probably manage to find out how to modify it before I'll get my phone, if it's possible.
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if you set it to just a press, how would you get to the start menu lol

if you set it to just a press, how would you get to the start menu lol
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If I've understood correct, it should be accessible through home-screen, just pressing the start from top-left corner? This should be enough for me if I have 9 shortcuts in home screen anyway. Probably don't need that fast access to rest of aplications.
Just a personal preference, but I'd like to be able to access task manager fast. Just so I can juggle between browser, ssh terminal (irssi) etc easily.Currently with my Nokia E71 I can access it by pressing home-button for a second and would prefer a dedicated button for this.

fouro said:
If I've understood correct, it should be accessible through home-screen, just pressing the start from top-left corner? This should be enough for me if I have 9 shortcuts in home screen anyway. Probably don't need that fast access to rest of aplications.
Just a personal preference, but I'd like to be able to access task manager fast. Just so I can juggle between browser, ssh terminal (irssi) etc easily.Currently with my Nokia E71 I can access it by pressing home-button for a second and would prefer a dedicated button for this.
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Not on the newer windows mobile 6.5.1 roms, microsoft moved the start button from the top to the bottom, suppose to make it more like windows by the way you can set showcase up so it opens if you tap the top right hand corner where the clock is

mancsoulja said:
Showcases default setting is set to open when you press and hold the start button
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Does not work this way on the HD2, and also a no-go with pressing and holding the Windows hardware button.

erdoke said:
Does not work this way on the HD2, and also a no-go with pressing and holding the Windows hardware button.
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How come it's a no-go to do that?XD

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How come it's a no-go to do that?XD
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Also, X button enhancement does not work perfectly. On the capacitive screen I can't slide my finger to the left to activate different functions of Showcase. Only the one to the right can be used. It works fine when operating through a PC with Remote Controller, so I am sure this is due to the different screen technology.

erdoke said:
Also, X button enhancement does not work perfectly. On the capacitive screen I can't slide my finger to the left to activate different functions of Showcase. Only the one to the right can be used. It works fine when operating through a PC with Remote Controller, so I am sure this is due to the different screen technology.
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Yeah, for some reason HD2 renders the X button enhancement useless. So, is there actually any way to access Showcase (or any similar task manager for that matter) by long pressing any of the hard keys? I really wish there was more convenient ways to switch between applications.

Kinda funny how Apple's ineptitude has people thinking, all over again, asif Multitasking is something special.
Any windows version since way back when does multitasking.
You know what the funny part is, the iPhone can actually multi task, but Apple won't allow it for some reason Steve Jobs' mind spewed out and only he can understand.

JanSchotsmans said:
You know what the funny part is, the iPhone can actually multi task, but Apple won't allow it for some reason Steve Jobs' mind spewed out and only he can understand.
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They can activate it later and sell a new wave of $600 phones.
Remember when they released video? It was very exciting for a lot of people. I recall video recording the festivities on my three year old Windows Mobile phone at the time.

All messages> Back switches apps instead

I noticed a bug that allows you to switch to running apps that were left behind with the home button.
Prerequisites: HTC Messages widget on one of the main screens.
Steps to reproduce:
1. Open an application (like 'people') and exit out with the home button, not the back button.
2. Repeat step one if you want to add other apps.
3. Go to the HTC messages widget and tap it to open a message.
4. Select menu option "All messages".
5. Press the 'back' button. This will switch to another app instead of close the messages.
6. Repeat step 5 to close the app and move to the next one.
Further notes:
Some apps will continue to show up even if you press 'back' on them to exit out.
For example, "People", "System settings" and browser never closes. Camera app does close, but you have to leave it by pressing 'home'.
Works on generic 1.5.

android dosent close apps untill needed lol just hold the home button to open any program you have run recently lol

mancsoulja said:
android dosent close apps untill needed lol just hold the home button to open any program you have run recently lol
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I didn't know that - it is not mentioned in the manual. Thanks for that useful tip. Looks like a useful shortcut back to where you were before.
But how do you close a programme rather than let it waste memory and battery in the background?

peterc10 said:
I didn't know that - it is not mentioned in the manual. Thanks for that useful tip. Looks like a useful shortcut back to where you were before.
But how do you close a programme rather than let it waste memory and battery in the background?
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If android needs ram it will close apps as needed but you can always download a task manager from the marketplace, there are some good free ones, i suggest advanced task manager its what i use

It would be good to be able to actually get them to exit properly.
Especially so when you have 4 or 5 "All messages" apps that won't go.
The only use this bug has is to take you to apps that are actually running as opposed to your history.

It also takes you to screens that a task switcher can't do for you, like the last screen you see from your last phone call and the call history.

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The only use this bug has is to take you to apps that are actually running as opposed to your history.
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I don't see this as being a bug. The ability to be able to short cut to the 6 (I notice it is limited to 6) previously used apps by a long press on the home button is obviously something the designers have deliberately included. And to me it is a useful additional feature (now I have found it!).
It seems to be history rather than running apps you are looking at - I closed several of my running apps using Astro and yet they still subsequently appeared in the list.

hd2 t-mo usa: does it have a app switcher?

When I close a program, I know its in background(via task manager). How do I switch to that program without always loading taskmanager?
Example: If I minimize a IM application, it's in backgorund. B4 I could click on the upper right corner of the screen and see what's running and click on it to bring it forward.

starstreak said:
When I close a program, I know its in background(via task manager). How do I switch to that program without always loading taskmanager?
Example: If I minimize a IM application, it's in backgorund. B4 I could click on the upper right corner of the screen and see what's running and click on it to bring it forward.
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Search for Dutty's taskmanager and your old style HTC taskmanager will be back in the top right hand corner..

Thanks. I was hoping it was "built-in" but I guess not.

I'm using Quickmenu for multitasking
I got my HD2 on Tmobile "launch date", and apps running in background was the first thing to piss me off. So I was forced to turn my Touch Diamond back on and bluetooth over a copy of quickmenu. After I installed it, I went to the options and checked off "register win key of device". Now I have one button access to my task manager in the quickmenu. O, btw, I also checked off on "ok to close program", huge help.

You should try LMT to close apps or switch to a taskmanager ;-)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629263

I second the Dutty's reccomendation. But I wonder why the heck they didn't include the HTC tack manager by default?

I recommend using ArkSwitch. It opens a nifty graphical list of running programs when you click the Start area on the top left of any program. That's almost as easy as Alt-Tab.

I just tried LMT after having tried every task manager/quick menu app I could find and REALLY like it so far. Having customizable multi-touch gestures that are available anywhere is awesome.
Time will tell if it's stable, and it might be nice to get rid of the confirmation graphic after a while, but for those wanting fast app switching and easy app management, it's pretty slick.
-JS

a042349 said:
I just tried LMT after having tried every task manager/quick menu app I could find and REALLY like it so far. Having customizable multi-touch gestures that are available anywhere is awesome.
Time will tell if it's stable, and it might be nice to get rid of the confirmation graphic after a while, but for those wanting fast app switching and easy app management, it's pretty slick.
-JS
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Thanks! And it is stable (I hope so... ). Also check out the new version v0.7 with multitouch controller support. It will be released soon!

Resco Task Manager...best ever

I'm just trying the old staple freeware task manager "Magic Button" on my T-Mo HD2, and it works well. (Although a little hard with no stylus to aim correctly at the small icons on the taskbar.)