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[FUN] Elf in the refrigerator

Hi, I'm the proud owner of an ELF(in). I bought it on ebay very cheap because it was in bootloader mode. Thanks to the gold card method I've been using it with no problems at all.
Yesterday I bought another one (ELF), it hangs after 3-5 seconds of power on (bootloader, loading windows, etc). Sometimes the screen just shuts off, sometimes everyting becames green. So, I decided to put it in the refrigerator and see what happens. After 15 minutes I powered it up and it works! I take it out and hangs almost immediately. Is this just a faulty unit? No hope for it? (I don't want to carry my refrigerator everywhere).
If someone has any ideas, I'm listening.
Thanks!

hahaha, i love this post. sorry i'm not able to offer too much help but I had to comment. I know my parents used to freeze batteries to make em last longer. Tried a different one?

Well yeah, I tried soft reset, hard reset, the battery from my working Elfin, etc.

Try the microwave... for two minutes?

There already was a thread about this problem (maybe you bought it) and already then my answer was to take the device apart clean all the dust and dirt inside and give it another shot. I had a nokia with the same problem and when i opened it it was full with dust and fibres from my pants everytime whe put it in our pants there comes a bit of dirt in it and because of the rubbing it acumulates inside the device and it enters in protection-mode (nice word????) because of overheating ate least that was the explanation they gave me when i contacted nokia at the time.........You can't loose anything by trying

becosemsaida said:
There already was a thread about this problem (maybe you bought it) and already then my answer was to take the device apart clean all the dust and dirt inside and give it another shot. I had a nokia with the same problem and when i opened it it was full with dust and fibres from my pants everytime whe put it in our pants there comes a bit of dirt in it and because of the rubbing it acumulates inside the device and it enters in protection-mode (nice word????) because of overheating ate least that was the explanation they gave me when i contacted nokia at the time.........You can't loose anything by trying
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Haha.. what do you do in your pants?

becosemsaida said:
There already was a thread about this problem (maybe you bought it) and already then my answer was to take the device apart clean all the dust and dirt inside and give it another shot. I had a nokia with the same problem and when i opened it it was full with dust and fibres from my pants everytime whe put it in our pants there comes a bit of dirt in it and because of the rubbing it acumulates inside the device and it enters in protection-mode (nice word????) because of overheating ate least that was the explanation they gave me when i contacted nokia at the time.........You can't loose anything by trying
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I already cleaned up, and still the same. It's clearly an overheating problem, it's been in the refrigerator for a couple of hours and works like a charm. Not very useful though as it's no longer a "portable device"!

Tr0cken said:
I already cleaned up, and still the same. It's clearly an overheating problem, it's been in the refrigerator for a couple of hours and works like a charm. Not very useful though as it's no longer a "portable device"!
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Just buy one of those mini refrigerators... carry it around on your back (along with a VERY long extension cord) and have your Elfin inside. When you need a snack or need to call, the fridge is always there!

dsixda said:
Just buy one of those mini refrigerators... carry it around on your back (along with a VERY long extension cord) and have your Elfin inside. When you need a snack or need to call, the fridge is always there!
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haha....good to see you (dsixda) pal, still keeping up with the jokes....unlike some of us....oh yeah man...i know i been away...but i jus cudnt pass this one out and seeing you're here as well....
trying to catch up soon on the forum and now i wil have a present from M$ when i come back onboard....6.5 right....lots of questions you can expect from me dsixda...
and for the topic of this thread....this is a very cold case indeed!!!

dsixda said:
Haha.. what do you do in your pants?
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LOL!!!!! what do you can expect man???

Well, I hope you didn't pay much for it. You can always keep it handy for spare parts when you might need some. My first thought was that you might want to try using a different battery, but I see you already tried this.

ayyu3m said:
haha....good to see you (dsixda) pal, still keeping up with the jokes....unlike some of us....oh yeah man...i know i been away...but i jus cudnt pass this one out and seeing you're here as well....
trying to catch up soon on the forum and now i wil have a present from M$ when i come back onboard....6.5 right....lots of questions you can expect from me dsixda...
and for the topic of this thread....this is a very cold case indeed!!!
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Haha! Where were you man? I was going to throw an S.O.S. out to you last week for XIP porting help
But alas, you disappeared to Guantanamo Bay or somewhere

Is there not a small watch size battery in these devices - Perhaps it needs replacing?
See picture I included at the bottom of the device. I got this picture from the complete disasembly guide in the elf forum.

I knew about people who used the refrigerator to overclock their PCs, but this thing you're doing is amazing!

dsixda said:
Just buy one of those mini refrigerators... carry it around on your back (along with a VERY long extension cord) and have your Elfin inside. When you need a snack or need to call, the fridge is always there!
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I used a small box with ice when I connected it to the PC for rom updating, perhaps I should carry that box. I know it sounds bizarre but it works fine when refrigerated!
hotrod101 said:
Is there not a small watch size battery in these devices - Perhaps it needs replacing?
See picture I included at the bottom of the device. I got this picture from the complete disasembly guide in the elf forum.
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I disconnected that battery and it works just the same without it!
Any more ideas on how to fix this Elf?

try booting into windows and looking at the cpu speed, if it is normal lower it to the minimum and see if it hangs then.
eitherway, u must try reflashing everypiece of firmware, especially the radio firmware before giving up. (yeah, u might have to put ur laptop in the fridge with the phone )

Try lowering the clock speed with and Overclocking tool. Homescreen ++ gives u temp report. With that u can know if the temp is the real problem.

Liquid Nitrogen is the answer

Fix a fan on it
Haha, how about fixing a computer fan at the back of the pocket pc, it needs cooling.
Maybe the temperature sensor of the ppc has been spoilt, reporting the wrong data to the brain, thus the ppc restarts.

Ok, finally my Elf is working with no crashes at all outside the fridge! I found the solution in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=476152.
Thanks to Firestarter42 for the tip and okti for the mini-tutorial. I think that info should be in Elf's Wiki page.
However! I've got another problem... I've attached a screenshot. Any ideas?

New Sensor or What? Help need!

Dear all, please dont kick me so hard, but can anybody explain me what is window (sensor, device???) on the top of htc logo and between calldynamic! What is this, proximity sensor NO?! IRda - NO?! In manuals i couldnt find this place explanation. Sorry didnt read all threads to find thruth!

DTNT said:
Dear all, please dont kick me so hard, but can anybody explain me what is window (sensor, device???) on the top of htc logo and between calldynamic! What is this, proximity sensor NO?! IRda - NO?! In manuals i couldnt find this place explanation. Sorry didnt read all threads to find thruth!
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First off, welcome to XDA
Secondly, do you mean the 3G Camera or earpiece or the light sensor?
Can you provide image of what you are describing?
Check out page 25 of manual

Thank you Spartan for you hospitality, no this sensor in the left side, it is not camera and light sensor! you can see it only in some angle, stright look will not show you this place. later i will try to highlight in pic.

DTNT said:
Thank you Spartan for you hospitality, no this sensor in the left side, it is not camera and light sensor! you can see it only in some angle, stright look will not show you this place. later i will try to highlight in pic.
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No sensor, just your imagination, scratch or build defect.

I dont mention that it is sensor, but what is this? please see in the angle to your apparatus and you will see it, maybe something that producers did for future uses? just take a look!

DTNT said:
I dont mention that it is sensor, but what is this? please see in the angle to your apparatus and you will see it, maybe something that producers did for future uses? just take a look!
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I have check on my girlfriend's TouchHD and there is....... NOTHING!

There is nothing there. Your phone might have some kind of minor manufacturing flaw that makes you think there is something there. I have had my HD for a year and have never heard of anything being there. I looked at it from all angles, and compared it to the right side. My phone shows nothing. Both the left and the right side look the same.

Thank you all for your attempts, but I will tru to put pic of it (if camera will capture it), and maybe than you can explain me this place usebility. Will try to give a pix on monday!!!

DTNT said:
Thank you all for your attempts, but I will tru to put pic of it (if camera will capture it), and maybe than you can explain me this place usebility. Will try to give a pix on monday!!!
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I highly doubt there's anything. I've recently opened up my phone to replace the screen and had to mess around in there with the camera/speaker/light sensor and there was nothing else.

Please see attached photoes, can anybody explain this window dedication? Waiting for your replyes.

looks like a air bubble under the screen protector.

Oh common guys, it is not bubble, not scratch, please look on top of htc logo untill calldynamic, this thing placed between them. Mayby mine is special, super-assembled!!!

ok, i was doubtful but i checked anyway and couldnt see anything, then i saw your pics and thought id give it another try and nope, nada, then i figured id pull it to bits and have a gander and inside and still nothing.
Whilst this was slightly entertaining im affraid to say you have probably got a bubble under the first layer of screen.
That is the most likely explination, the chances you have a one off device that no one else has which has some mystical new sensor is so small you'd be better off putting your life savings and the money you made selling your house on the lottery in the hope you'll hit the big one!

Ok, if accept the version that it is bubble under first layer, can you explain why this bubble has so right geometric forms? The guy next to me has an IPhone, and even him thought that it is porximity sensor like his apple has. Strange and Mistyc!!!

I agree that the shape is very geometrical, and I can understand how it would make you think there is something special there. It is unique, but I still don't think it's related to any functions or features the phone has. Look at the letters "htc". You have a slight frame around each letter that is the same shade/color as the "window" you are referring to. My "htc" letters have no such frame around them. The black of the phone comes up directly to where the white letters start.
So, I think it's some kind of strange manufacturing effect.
I'll even attach the service manual for you to look at.
Download service manual here

To be truthfully honest I thought you were seeing things until you posted your 3 pics. Yes, it does look geometrical in shape, but I can assure you that this is not a sensor, button or anything else intended by HTC. As stated by others previously is looks like a flaw in some way, either on the device itself or caused by the skin protector. If you take your device to any retail shop and compare it with another HD this may ease your concerns and I'm sure the staff in the shop would also say as everyone else here has.

Absolutely agree with htc letter, before your post i don't even see this feat, well, i think i should agree with that this window has no any function. Besides i saw off. manual, no-nothing. OK, waiting for another variants of reply.

Fallen Spartan said:
To be truthfully honest I thought you were seeing things until you posted your 3 pics. Yes, it does look geometrical in shape, but I can assure you that this is not a sensor, button or anything else intended by HTC. As stated by others previously is looks like a flaw in some way, either on the device itself or caused by the skin protector. If you take your device to any retail shop and compare it with another HD this may ease your concerns and I'm sure the staff in the shop would also say as everyone else here has.
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Well, first of all device was bought not in EU, second, in my country very hard to find even person who owns device, too much expensive for our market, i'm even not talking about shops to compare my apparatus with others. By the way, does anybody know, whether in this forum chats somebody from HTC. i would asked him directly.

DTNT said:
Well, first of all device was bought not in EU, second, in my country very hard to find even person who owns device, too much expensive for our market, i'm even not talking about shops to compare my apparatus with others. By the way, does anybody know, whether in this forum chats somebody from HTC. i would asked him directly.
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I would just ask HTC directly on their contact site:
http://www.htc.com/europe/CS_Mail.aspx

Looks like something trapped under the screen protector, did you peel it back and check?

please some one give me their input on my situation

So i I have a Nexus Ons, and Its been working flawlessly since I bought the thing. At first I tried to keep it original and not root it, but then I just said **** it haha but thats not the problem. I rooted it cyanogen mod all the goodness and i installed torch to use my flash led blub as a flashlight. I may have over used and it over heated so when i take pictures using flash there is a area of blue in every picture i take using the flash. when i dont use flash it takes pic of very good quality just as before but now i cant use flash if my life depends on it.
Is there anyway to like lower the flash so the blue does not show up as much or all together replacing the blub it self?
PLEASE XDA MEMBERS AND COMMUNITY HELP ME WITH THIS I TRY TO MAKE THREADS AND I FOLLOW THE FORUMS EVERYDAY BUT NO 1 SEEMS TO HELP

Have you checked all your settings on the camera itself. Its possible you may have inadvertantly changed something. Check your settings and go from there. If the led is toast , prolly have to send the phone in to get fixed.

it def isnt a setting because it happens when i change roms too.. and like am i still able to send it in even tho its rooted or would i have to bring it back to stock?

It sounds like the led is ok but there might be a light-leak internally between the led and the camera.

Yep, might be the back cover not sitting well, or protector case, or your fingers.

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Yep, might be the back cover not sitting well, or protector case, or your fingers.
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Agreed. Never heard of this problem which leads me to believe it's not shipped physical hardware malfunctioning. If it was there would be alot of threads *****ing and complaining, since that's what 8/10s of humanity use the internet for =D I'd make sure it's none of the above then flash a different rom or version and double wipe the phone. G'luck
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Not anything like this is it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=873215

Damn, it is like that in the youtube video you just posted although it isnt as blue.
Is there anyway to change the bulbs board or?

There is, of course, if you disassemble the phone and have the LED board.
You might be better off attempting to use your warranty and have the phone replaced.

Try cleaning the lense.
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I read in another thread where somebody's flash led turned blue after dropping it from 1m
Other than trying to replace the led i can't think of anything.

Can't find replacement led flash.

I am amazed at how little turned up when searching for a replacement led (camera flash) for this phone. Heh, minus less concise searches like HTC g2 flash.
So anyways, it's dead. I'd like to replace it, any idea where I can get the part? Seems like finding the part will be harder than replacing it. Yikes.

Btw.. my flash had been occasionally turning a light bluish-purple color, akin to turning up the color temp prior to this. It then went out like a light bulb.. turn on for a split second... (then obviously off) only to never turn on again. Just a heads up for anyone noticing the same behavior.. your time with led flash is almost up..
Why do I get the feeling that this is a post that I'll see go down seven pages while **** like 'can I has huneycrumb?' flys past?

My flash went out a few months ago and I haven't gotten around to ordering a warranty replacement yet. What I find very strange though is that I can turn it on through the camcorder. No other app is able to turn it on, and even then it only lasts for less than 2 minutes.

The camera app may be sending a lower 'power output' (don't know to phrase it) than torch app (even torch on normal mode) you can verify this by comparing modes commanded in your kernel log (dmesg)..
In terminal emu type dmesg | grep flashlight
8 is high power
4 is normal power
0 is off
And aw hell. Why not just launch camera app myself..
Yep.. flashlight mode 1...
I'm betting that vision, glacier, and ace all use the same led flash board.
Nexus one is a no go. I believe we're looking for a L shaped PCB with one flash. Correct me if I am wrong.

I can take a picture of the actual flash if anyone needs to see it. I have a fully disassembled G2 close by...
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unforgiven512 said:
I can take a picture of the actual flash if anyone needs to see it. I have a fully disassembled G2 close by...
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Yes please! The higher res, the better. Manufacturer markings or part numbers would be a dream - but that's probably not on there. So connector type and other 'identifiers' will be the best bet. Thanks very much.
Where would you start to look for such a part? Just wondering.

Blades said:
I am amazed at how little turned up when searching for a replacement led (camera flash) for this phone. Heh, minus less concise searches like HTC g2 flash.
So anyways, it's dead. I'd like to replace it, any idea where I can get the part? Seems like finding the part will be harder than replacing it. Yikes.
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If you have warranty... Get it replace.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z/G2 Using XDA Premium App

Ive always wanted a multicoulered flash that you could change the colour of Strobe effect with it changing colours would be awesome
Have you tried contacting HTC, they might either fix it under warranty, or maybe they could get you in contact with their supplier
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I have insurance. I do not want to swap this phone for some refurbished junk... that and revert all the mods like gfree.
Of course. I could switch the led with the functional led from the replacement.
These are that rare, huh? Leds, that is - jk... kinda.

Blades said:
I have insurance. I do not want to swap this phone for some refurbished junk... that and revert all the mods like gfree.
Of course. I could switch the led with the functional led from the replacement.
These are that rare, huh? Leds, that is - jk... kinda.
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I don't know if you still use your G2. My flash died a few days ago and I stumbled across replacement modules on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160827206897

Dead DHD, I supose this is goodbye... :(

I went bowling during weekend and my good old DHD just went off out of my shirt pocket and landed flat... even the silicone case didn't help, because it just wouldn't turn on anymore. When I connect it to a PC, it recognizes HTC phone and disk but orange light doesn't light up and power button does nothing. I suppose there's nothing I can do, if anyone has any ideas, you're welcome, but I think it is kaput
What would my fellow DHD'ers suggest for my next phone? Really cool new phones like Droid DNA and Nexus 4 aren't available in Europe and Czech, so I figured either One X or Galaxy Note 2. Any other suggestions?
Cheers, I'll still be on XDA in Nexus 7 forum anyways, but I'll really miss DHD and JellyTime...
D.

try to hold power button while inserting the battery.

Thanks for the tip, but no go...

It's sounds funny but could it be possible it fell on the corner where power led and power button are located? :laugh:
If PC recognizes it, then it's not dead.
I would try to dissasembly it and shorten power button contacts to see if that's the case.

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It's sounds funny but could it be possible it fell on the corner where power led and power button are located? :laugh:
If PC recognizes it, then it's not dead.
I would try to dissasembly it and shorten power button contacts to see if that's the case.
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Please try that, your DHD deserves it.
That old girl has a lot to give yet.
With the 4.2 ROMS out there is obvious that HTC betrayed us discontinuing support for our phones, and releasing less powered phones with ICS by default.

Maybe it's just the screen? Seriously dude, I would at least play with it just to see what's wrong...

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Maybe it's just the screen? Seriously dude, I would at least play with it just to see what's wrong...
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It is not the screen since the orange light doesn't lit up when I connect it to the charger. I suspect the motherboard cracked, but who knows. As you say, I have nothing to lose, will try opening when I have some time...

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It is not the screen since the orange light doesn't lit up when I connect it to the charger. I suspect the motherboard cracked, but who knows. As you say, I have nothing to lose, will try opening when I have some time...
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I absolutely loved my Inspire 4G for the year and a half that I had her. But I moved on to a more powerful phone (S3). I still have it with Gingerbeast on it. But don't be sad about having to upgrade. Lol
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HTC should start putting impact zones on their motherboards like what Samsung does on their devices
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Sadly I don't have any tips for you, but I moved on to the note 2 and while plastic took about a week to get used to size was only a problem for the first couple of minutes. Speed wise its the first phone I haven't found the need to root of flash custom rom to speed it up (I still did it for the fun). Long story short I would highly recommend it.

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