Ty Tn Media Player wont see music on storage card - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Got a Ty Tn on Sat 11/11/06.
I can see the music on the storage card and can play it thru File Explorer, but it wont show up in the Media Player (MP) library. Library shows only the device not the storage card. Have tried to search the wiki and the forums; did not find anything. Synch gives a message "media player cannot play file" and in the desktop it sees nothing on the storage card. Did upgrade from 8125. Can someone point me to a solution? Thnx
Other stuff based on comments I have seen in the forum and wiki: My TyTN (Cingular's network) works beautifully otherwise. S/N: 636xxx. 3G clocks 900Kbps; GPRS 200Kbps; no screen alignment problems; stylus just-right snug. Battery life with BT, WiFi, 3G, HEAVY phone usage and browsing is great. In the past (over the last about 5 years, I have had to carry a spare battery with all my phones/devices to go through the day; my device is my office). On th TyTN I dont think I will need a spare battery. No synch problems (other than the media player). I have loaded a few apps on the Storage card - all work fine. I carry the TyTn in a pouch not in the pocket as some do. Does not overheat.
Any help on the media player will be appreciated.

It is a bug that needs fixing.
A workaround is:
-set File Explorer to "Show All Files"
-delete the folder "MSMETADATA" on the storage card
-In Windows Media click "Update Library"
Your music should be back.
I have to do this every few days.

Thanks - for the Media Player info
Thanks much

Permanent fix (MP not seeing music on storage card)! ???
Did what you suggested; went a step further. Deleted file from device, updated library on device - both as you suggested. THEN deleted music from desktop library (but NOT FROM COMPUTER). Re synched. Problem gone.

Correction
Recreate library before synching.

I was advised by HTC Europe that the problem would be fixed with the first software upgrade. Well we have an upgrade released in South Africa and I have done that, but the problem is still present, although slightly improved.
I now only have to reload the library file about once a week.

Knock on wood - still fine
5 days later, I have not had a recurrence (after the fix above). Added more stuff to storage card, more programs etc....

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media player won't recognise storage card

Hi
I have just bought a san disk 2gb mini sd card for my mini s and after a few teething problems I can put items onto it.
I thought brilliant so i loaded on 300 of my fav songs. For some reason windows media player when updating the library notices the files although it doesn't add them to the library so I can't play a list of songs I can play one and then what ever is in the library.
The library only adds from "my deivce" and not from the storage card.
Can someone help me as I really like my music and can't listen to it properly because of a fault.
If not can anyone suggest a music player that works on the mini s/wizard.
Yes people are having a problem with 2gb cards on the wizard - there seems to be a bug.
Some people find it works ok if over half full - is yours?
Second people reporting success after reformatting the card on the device (backup everything on the card before you do this) use storage tools or my fav sktools
Hope it works - i love my music too!
Microsft needs to pay for all the high blood pressure that Windows Mobile devices cause.
1)Don't format your 2GB card to FAT32. Use FAT. It appears the PPC is still living in the 80's. If you use FAT32 it might appear to work fine but everynow and then you'll get currupted files.
2) Get Windows Media Player 11. You can then happily disable the aweful media sync feature in activestink 4.x. WMP11 will recognize your card as long as your PPC is synced.
3) I don't have this problem in WMP11 but in WMP10 if your WMP in your PPC is open, it might not sync your new playlist even though it appears to be doing so.
It appears Bill and the boys at MS are taking mobile media seriously even though they are a decade late. But I'm optimistic :wink:
Does not really solve your problem as such, but Media Player is a real dog and a waste of time IMO. Get TCPMP for video (the best and free) and a good music player like Mort, GSplayer or Pocket Player.
I'm having the same problem. I'm using WMP11 and it does not see my 2 gig SD card. I used this set up before with WMP10 and it would always see my SDcard. Ant help on this would be great. It I just plug my sdcard directly into the computer then WMP11 sees it.
Thanks
Garth
Anyone success with 2G Card in FAT32 sync with MediaPlayer 11?
Same Problem
I have a 1GB miniSD card in my Cingular 8525, and windows mobile Media player fails to load any of the songs that are on the storage card into the media library. I CAN play any of the songs one at a time. It's just that the library won't load or recognize the files.
I've tried everything. I've selected "update libary" , I've sync with activesynk...
I don't think this is a size issue. I've tried a few files, I've tried many files.
I don't think this is a storage size issue, as you guys are having the problem with 2GB SD cards, and I'm having the problem with 1GB miniSD cards.
I think this is probably a Media player bug. Do any of the other media players support a library like function?
i have a 512mb card and i don't have WMP11 working either. i am starting to think that it is a activesyc 4.5 beta problem but now sure. also i noticed that my new contacts are not in outlook either. it says it has synced them but when i open outlook on my pc they are not there. oddly enough back to music i can sync music through yahoo music engine perfectly. it shows my storage card and my device.
I have the same problem. I'm using a Cingular 8525 with a 2GB micro sd card, WMM, and WM11. This worked for me: create a playlist in WM11 and sync to 8525. Then, using WMM, use the open file command under menu to find the file you created (mine is located in: file system/storage card/playlist) and open it as a playlist.
It didn't solve the real problem, but at least you can play more than one song at a time.
I hope this helps .
P.S.
I see little red asterisk on the storage card folders in WMM, what do they mean?
garthed said:
I'm having the same problem. I'm using WMP11 and it does not see my 2 gig SD card. I used this set up before with WMP10 and it would always see my SDcard. Ant help on this would be great. It I just plug my sdcard directly into the computer then WMP11 sees it.
Thanks
Garth
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Please refer to this link: http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/28840468/wmp11-and-windows-mobile.aspx
It worked for me on an Universal
Eric
It works for me too!!!!! Thanks for posting!
leblan said:
Please refer to this link: http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/28840468/wmp11-and-windows-mobile.aspx
It worked for me on an Universal
Eric
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okay this is what I have tried with no success in both the test 3.3 rom and the cingular 3.3 rom.
i have deleted all those folders /music /msmdata /wdrm.
I have even formated(slow and fast) the SD card from sk tools, and I have gone into the windows registry(pc) and deleted all sync devices.
no matter what I do I cannot see my storage card in wmp11 in windows vista. on either my hermes or my wizard.
if anyone can help me out i would really appreciate it.
I'm the same, can't find my storage card anywhere! Help!
I had the same problem with my 2 gig corsair... What i did for mine to work for me is I deleted everything on the card than instead of just puting files on the card i made folders(my music, my videos, programs)... Sounds crazy but i haven't had problems ever since.
go http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/28840468/wmp11-and-windows-mobile.aspx and you'll be satisfied.
It works for me and I am quite sure it will work for all of you.
THT, Alexey
leblan said:
Please refer to this link: http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/28840468/wmp11-and-windows-mobile.aspx
It worked for me on an Universal
Eric
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OMG! Thank you so very much Leblan. This worked for me too. I had to delete my music folder, so I lost all my sync music. But who cares, now wmp is reading my storage card again!
thank you
I have an 8525 that did the same thing. Here is what worked for me.
Remove the Micro-SD card. Open Media player and click on menu. Then click on Library. Click on menu again and select the "update Library". Let it run and find the updates. After it completes close Media Player and insert the SD card in the slot. Now open Media player again and click on Menu. Click on Library, click on menu again, click on "Update Library" and let it run. It should see the card files and add them to the library. After it completes open the menu again open the library and look for the Storage card. It should now show up with all of your songs. (mine has 346 songs and it found them all).
how to fix this problem.
On the storage card, delete the following file Storage Card\MSMETADATA\XMEMediaLibrary.mlb You may have to tap & hold in the File Manager window on a blank area and choose "Show All Files" in order to see this folder. If this XMEMedialibrary.mlb isnt in that folder, just delete the whole folder, that worked for me. Also delete the file: Mobile Device\Application Data\Microsoft\Media Player\XMEMediaLibrary.mlb

Orange M3100 seems to corrupt storage card (Media Player)

Weird, This is the 2nd device I've had and both do this...
I sync music to the card, Media Centre picks the music up, but then after a reset it all goes wrong:
The next time I start MC, it doesn't even see the storage card (in the Library). Updating the library, it finds the tracks but seems to hang while adding them. Meanwhile, the free storage on the card goes down... and down... and down until there's none left. MC then says "can't add the tracks" and gives up.
Anyone else having this trouble, or am I incredibly unlucky?!
Ferg.
I have the same issue on my TyTN...
really frustrating but I found a workaround: browse the storage and delete the hidden folder MSMETADATA, then try to update media player library.
You won't find such folder using the file explorer provided with WM5: you must use an enhanced file explorer such as Resco one in order to view hidden and system files.
I have the same problem but I will try deleting that files to see if it helps.
That seems to work Nic, nice one.
I'm sure I remember doing this before with no success, but my memory is obviously playing tricks.
ferg.
I also have the same problem. It is very annoying...
However, if you go to the Library screen, then Menu > Open File and navigate to storage card > playlists, you can open any of your playlists...
Not ideal but it works.
I removed that file and it works fine now, jusy hope is stays the same for a few days.
Yeah, I've had the same problem too and I've tried all the various things suggested with limited success. The only surefire solution I've encountered is to copy all my important folders from the storage card to my desktop - minus any of the media files/folders and the msmeta data files, using resco, reformat the storage card, replace all the files from the desktop, resync and then synchronise he music through wm player again.
What a pain!

JAMin and WMP10 settings

Hi,
Quick question which isn't the end of the world but I find confusing.
For the past 4 months (since getting my JAMin) whenever I started up WMP10 it went to the 'Library' screen, and I selected 'My Playlists' - it would then automatically list all the playlists I have on my SD card. (I only ever load music onto the SD card, not onto the device itself).
Somehow, just in the last few days, this has changed so it defaults to the 'My Device' lists - of which there are none (never have been).
I simply find this annoying as it now means I have to go through 2 more steps every time I open WMP10 to reset it to look at the SD card for the playlists instead. The device then doesn't remember this as the default the next time I open WMP10.
Does anyone know how I can get it back to functioning as it was previously? I checked the sync settings on the PC version of WMP10 that I use to load the music/playlists, and it's set up for the SD card.......
Wild guess.... Maybe your card is getting old and gets disconnected once in while? (If you extract the card WMP defaults to internal memory...)
Not sure if that would be the reason.
The minute I click 'playlists' and the nclick on 'Storage Card' instead of 'My Device' it picks up the card, so it's registering at the time. I'd have thought even if it had accidentally disconnected at some point, the fact that it is 'visible' when I want to select a playlist would have suggested that WMP10 should also be picking it up.
Unless I'm missing something......
(Also, the card isn't that old, and isn't removed and reinserted very often - actually it's hardly touched - so it shouldn't be wearing out the contacts or anything).
Did you install any task manager program recently? Like SPB Pocket Plus Close Button or anyting like that?
By default WMP10's library points to My Device and not the Storage Card. When you tap the X button in standard WM5 you're only minimising WMP10 so when you open it up again it remembers your setting.
On the other hand, if you close WMP10 competely (by one of these task managers or the standard End Program), on loading it, it will point back to My Device as it is programmed to do by default.
1. Delete all media files you can find in the 'my device' library from the library and from the device. You can do this from within WMP.
2. Go to /Application Data/Microsoft/ and delete the Media Player directory.
3. Update the library
4. Never sync while Windows Media Player is open (on your desktop). If you do, repeat step 2-3.
theone3 said:
1. Delete all media files you can find in the 'my device' library from the library and from the device. You can do this from within WMP.
2. Go to /Application Data/Microsoft/ and delete the Media Player directory.
3. Update the library
4. Never sync while Windows Media Player is open (on your desktop). If you do, repeat step 2-3.
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Dirty fix This would not apply for everyone since some people (includign myself) transfer music to the Prophet through WMP desktop so I can get all the album art automatically.
kta said:
Did you install any task manager program recently? Like SPB Pocket Plus Close Button or anyting like that?
By default WMP10's library points to My Device and not the Storage Card. When you tap the X button in standard WM5 you're only minimising WMP10 so when you open it up again it remembers your setting.
On the other hand, if you close WMP10 competely (by one of these task managers or the standard End Program), on loading it, it will point back to My Device as it is programmed to do by default.
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Nope, I've been running SPB Pocket Plus since I got the device, and it's always opened WMP10 pointing at the storage card (despite the device being the default as you say).
Basically, the only things I've loaded on the JAMin are SPB Pocket Plus, Superdoku, TomTom 6 and OziExplorer CE.
kta said:
Dirty fix This would not apply for everyone since some people (includign myself) transfer music to the Prophet through WMP desktop so I can get all the album art automatically.
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Umm.. you sync to the storage card through the device? Get an SD card reader and sync your music through that - it's much, much faster.
Way2Go - I have SPB pocket plus too - and it's never done that for me.

MSMETADATA/WMP not seeing storage card

I was hoping this would go away in WM6 but it's still there.
It seems kinda ramdom, but I suspect it is related to removing/reinserting the microSD card, or updating it via drag& drop (rather than Sync with Media Player).
What happens is Windows Media Player stops seeing the Storage Card.
I can still play files by "running" them from File Explorer. If I choose Update Library in WMP, it scans the device and tries to add them, but times out.
The only way to get things working again, is to delete the MSMETADATA directory from the storage card and then tell WMP to rescan again.
I think this is a fairly common problem, but does anyone know exactly what causes it? Or a better fix than having to delete/recreate the metadata each time?
I'm suspecting it is because I am not using WMP on the PC to sync music. Syncing with mobile devices doesn't seem to be its strength though - I have my device in there twice and can't remove either instance. Also ActiveSync always says "Setup must be complete" for the WMP item, even though I have set it up several times.

Still struggling with Music Tab

I'm interested to know how others are getting on with the music tab in HTC sense. It took me a long time to get round to buying a 16GB card, but now I have I'm struggling to get the Music tab to function.
With a small collection of music it works just fine. However as I increase the collection at some point it breaks, so that it will only play a few seconds of a track before stopping, usually accompanied by a spinning circle in the top left of the screen, when that stops spinning the music stops. Something to do with indexing I'm assuming.
My music is organised in a fairly standard \Storage Card\Music\<Artist>\<Album>\ style format so there are no individually huge folders My favoured bitrate has been 192 so the files shouldn't be too big. I've tried syncing with Windows Media Player and with Mediamonkey. I've had mediamonkey convert all files as it syncs to WMA format or to MP3 at constant bitrate. All with the same results.
Who has the music tab functioning well with several GB's worth of music on their card? What settings did you use?
Of course I can just have WMP as a quick link on my first line whic happily plays everything and retains bluetooth AVRCP fuctionality. However the Music Tab interface is far nicer when it works.
<no longer true>My music tab isn't funtioning AT ALL, let alone well. It lists all my music (only 4 albums for experimenting, all tagged) alphabetically, and only draws the top half of the embedded albumart.
Doesn't even attempt to play, just sits there. Click next track, same - just draws half teh album art then sits there. Phone isn't hung or anything, just doesn't play.
Shame really, but i've not had it a week yet, so I'm gonna ignore it for now, and i'll look into it deeper once I have stopped playing with all the other bits.</no longer true>
See post 2 below
Hi,
Well I have to admit that my media player seems to be working well *touch wood*. I've got a few gb's of music on the 16gb card.
As soon as I got the card I formatted it on the HD2 before I put anything on it. Then I just synced my whole music collection from my laptop to the phone via ActiveSync, navigated to WMP on the HD2 and updated the library and all seems to play well (after the a little white circle spinning while it indexes the library).
Try backing up the card. Formatting it on the phone then doing it my way and see how if it helps.
**UPDATE**
OK i take back what i said in my previous post. I guess it was still reading the tags or something, because after having left it to sit for a while, it now works fine, including the albumart etc.
I didn't use sync, i rarely do for music players, so perhaps it takes longer for the player to find and scan everything using drag n drop rather than sync.
samsamuel said:
**UPDATE**
OK i take back what i said in my previous post. I guess it was still reading the tags or something, because after having left it to sit for a while, it now works fine, including the albumart etc.
I didn't use sync, i rarely do for music players, so perhaps it takes longer for the player to find and scan everything using drag n drop rather than sync.
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Yes,
I think using ActiveSync organises the files into a more easily accessible format/location, which is why I suggested it. Good to know that everything is working ok for you now though
OK, so I backed up everything on the card. Formatted the card using the phones built in application. Copied everything back except the music files.
Used Mediamonkey and set up an auto-conversion rule to convert everything it syncs to MP3 format at 192 bitrate whether it needs converting or not.
Updated the library in Media player on the HD2.
reset the HD2 and let the music tab re-index everything.
Everything is now working perfectly. Thanks for the opinions. Whether it was the phone format or just that I hadn't actually used those exact rules for syncing I can't say as mediamonkey was origionally setup to only convert files if it had to. I had issues with Windows Media Player missing out files.
Gajet said:
Everything is now working perfectly.
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Everything still perfect? I am almost able to sync without incident, but the "audio manager" crashes at the end of every sync (and, when prompted by the phone, I keep reporting the crash to Microsoft even though I don't expect them to get back to me anytime soon).
It also seems like I have to do a soft reset after each sync to shake out all of the bugs (missing album art, unplayable song files, etc.)
FWIW, I'm only syncing about 30 songs now until I have this sorted out, so having GBs worth of files isn't the problem (I was NEVER able to get 8GB of music to work in Manila's music tab on my Raphael).
id say that sounds more like an active sync issue.its never been the most stable program. why not simply connect in hard drive mode (or put memory card in card reader) and just drag and drop the music to it , then let the phone find it all itself.that'd be my preferred method.
gargon01 said:
Hi,
Well I have to admit that my media player seems to be working well *touch wood*. I've got a few gb's of music on the 16gb card.
As soon as I got the card I formatted it on the HD2 before I put anything on it. Then I just synced my whole music collection from my laptop to the phone via ActiveSync, navigated to WMP on the HD2 and updated the library and all seems to play well (after the a little white circle spinning while it indexes the library).
Try backing up the card. Formatting it on the phone then doing it my way and see how if it helps.
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How do you format the card from the Phone?
kochavy said:
How do you format the card from the Phone?
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I can jump in and answer that one - press the Window key (third one along on the bottom) (or press the button at the top left) and go to tools and there at the bottom is a button to format the SD card.
One thing I would like to see is the ability for the player to decode .ogg files - I love gapless playback, and really miss it with mp3's. I am trying to rip some stuff now, but it is a pain having to rip multiple tracks to one mp3 file just to avoid the hop skip and jump when playing back.
All the best.
rjstep3
When I was having issues with my music tab I followed the format SD card and organised into Artist/Album/tracks but what really worked for me was converting my entire library into LAME mp3. 1500+ songs are now working perfectly. I recommend using dBpoweramp to convert if you're willing to give it a shot.
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I recommend using dBpoweramp to convert if you're willing to give it a shot.
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dBpoweramp is certainly very good - but don't forget the free options as well, including foobar, Exact Audio Copy and Freerip3 - just Google for them.
rjstep3
i am also having a problem with the music.tab on the htc hd2. at first i was really plsased.with this phone but no w i am havekng countless problems with it...such as cudnt play videos with utube app installed...now this music nonsense.....i have spent toooo much mone on this phone t be getin these poblems and alsopurchased a 16gb card....i live tge hd2 .if only there was less problems
nyway has anyone found a working solution
I thought all the music needed to be in a root folder on the storage card, no sub-folders within to work well?
I had same problem. HTC music player stopped after about 4 secs of playing with every song. Put it all into a root folder and worked fine since.
Phaedrus Nine said:
I thought all the music needed to be in a root folder on the storage card, no sub-folders within to work well?
I had same problem. HTC music player stopped after about 4 secs of playing with every song. Put it all into a root folder and worked fine since.
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I don't know why that would be, but if it works then it works!
I have a "MUSIC" folder on my SD card, and in that I have artist sub-folders and then within them I have album sub-folders. It all works fine for me. This is literally the same folder that I've had for the past 3 WM phones, and I just copied it there manually, without using any type of synch.
Phaedrus Nine said:
I thought all the music needed to be in a root folder on the storage card, no sub-folders within to work well?
I had same problem. HTC music player stopped after about 4 secs of playing with every song. Put it all into a root folder and worked fine since.
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Could be because of the length of the path/filename when sub folders are used?
EG
theartistfoldernamedartist/thenameofthealbum/theartistfoldernamedartist-thenameofthealbum-thetracknumber.mp3
Perhaps the scanner struggles to cope with long path/filenames?
Ive got this problem and i was wondering if it had anything to do with the quality of the storage card?
Edit:
REASON FOUND
"One bad apple spoils the barrel"
One badly encoded mp3 will make the entire player stop. I found this while playing mp3s on music tab whilst transfering new mp3s through drag and drop (active sync) as soon as one particular mp3 was transferred the player stop and music would stop after 2-5secs. After deleting this file and reaccessing music tab library it was back to normal.
Suggestions: leave music player on whilst drag and dropping so you can figure out which are the problem files.
Alternatively: Re-encode your mp3s, either all or the problem files only.
I have been having an intermitment problem with the music tab in that it works fine for most of the time but then suddenly when I open it I get the spinning circle at the top left and the whole thing has frozen. The only way to get it working is a soft reset.
It doesn't seem to be badly formatted mp3 as after the reset the file that was in the player will work again.
I transfer music from windows media player using the sync function.
It has never stopped working whilst playing only when I open the tab and I think a few times it has been when a track has been paused for some time.
Any ideas are welcome. . .
My music tab doesn't work properly every time after the device was connected via USB in external drive mode. The last played title keeps being displayed, the album it is in is shown in the library as well (as currently played items or however this the first list in the library is called in english) but nothing else is listed. And the little white circle keeps spinning and spinning... I let it spin for hours once but nothing happened. The SD card was formatted by the phone in the first place and I never get freezes once the player works properly.
After a soft reset everything works fine instantly but shouldn't there be a way to get it up and running without resetting everytime I use USB external drive mode???
ROM 1.66 GER, problem was present on clean ROM (before tweaks and tools), too.

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