Hi,
Quick question which isn't the end of the world but I find confusing.
For the past 4 months (since getting my JAMin) whenever I started up WMP10 it went to the 'Library' screen, and I selected 'My Playlists' - it would then automatically list all the playlists I have on my SD card. (I only ever load music onto the SD card, not onto the device itself).
Somehow, just in the last few days, this has changed so it defaults to the 'My Device' lists - of which there are none (never have been).
I simply find this annoying as it now means I have to go through 2 more steps every time I open WMP10 to reset it to look at the SD card for the playlists instead. The device then doesn't remember this as the default the next time I open WMP10.
Does anyone know how I can get it back to functioning as it was previously? I checked the sync settings on the PC version of WMP10 that I use to load the music/playlists, and it's set up for the SD card.......
Wild guess.... Maybe your card is getting old and gets disconnected once in while? (If you extract the card WMP defaults to internal memory...)
Not sure if that would be the reason.
The minute I click 'playlists' and the nclick on 'Storage Card' instead of 'My Device' it picks up the card, so it's registering at the time. I'd have thought even if it had accidentally disconnected at some point, the fact that it is 'visible' when I want to select a playlist would have suggested that WMP10 should also be picking it up.
Unless I'm missing something......
(Also, the card isn't that old, and isn't removed and reinserted very often - actually it's hardly touched - so it shouldn't be wearing out the contacts or anything).
Did you install any task manager program recently? Like SPB Pocket Plus Close Button or anyting like that?
By default WMP10's library points to My Device and not the Storage Card. When you tap the X button in standard WM5 you're only minimising WMP10 so when you open it up again it remembers your setting.
On the other hand, if you close WMP10 competely (by one of these task managers or the standard End Program), on loading it, it will point back to My Device as it is programmed to do by default.
1. Delete all media files you can find in the 'my device' library from the library and from the device. You can do this from within WMP.
2. Go to /Application Data/Microsoft/ and delete the Media Player directory.
3. Update the library
4. Never sync while Windows Media Player is open (on your desktop). If you do, repeat step 2-3.
theone3 said:
1. Delete all media files you can find in the 'my device' library from the library and from the device. You can do this from within WMP.
2. Go to /Application Data/Microsoft/ and delete the Media Player directory.
3. Update the library
4. Never sync while Windows Media Player is open (on your desktop). If you do, repeat step 2-3.
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Dirty fix This would not apply for everyone since some people (includign myself) transfer music to the Prophet through WMP desktop so I can get all the album art automatically.
kta said:
Did you install any task manager program recently? Like SPB Pocket Plus Close Button or anyting like that?
By default WMP10's library points to My Device and not the Storage Card. When you tap the X button in standard WM5 you're only minimising WMP10 so when you open it up again it remembers your setting.
On the other hand, if you close WMP10 competely (by one of these task managers or the standard End Program), on loading it, it will point back to My Device as it is programmed to do by default.
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Nope, I've been running SPB Pocket Plus since I got the device, and it's always opened WMP10 pointing at the storage card (despite the device being the default as you say).
Basically, the only things I've loaded on the JAMin are SPB Pocket Plus, Superdoku, TomTom 6 and OziExplorer CE.
kta said:
Dirty fix This would not apply for everyone since some people (includign myself) transfer music to the Prophet through WMP desktop so I can get all the album art automatically.
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Umm.. you sync to the storage card through the device? Get an SD card reader and sync your music through that - it's much, much faster.
Way2Go - I have SPB pocket plus too - and it's never done that for me.
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Weird, This is the 2nd device I've had and both do this...
I sync music to the card, Media Centre picks the music up, but then after a reset it all goes wrong:
The next time I start MC, it doesn't even see the storage card (in the Library). Updating the library, it finds the tracks but seems to hang while adding them. Meanwhile, the free storage on the card goes down... and down... and down until there's none left. MC then says "can't add the tracks" and gives up.
Anyone else having this trouble, or am I incredibly unlucky?!
Ferg.
I have the same issue on my TyTN...
really frustrating but I found a workaround: browse the storage and delete the hidden folder MSMETADATA, then try to update media player library.
You won't find such folder using the file explorer provided with WM5: you must use an enhanced file explorer such as Resco one in order to view hidden and system files.
I have the same problem but I will try deleting that files to see if it helps.
That seems to work Nic, nice one.
I'm sure I remember doing this before with no success, but my memory is obviously playing tricks.
ferg.
I also have the same problem. It is very annoying...
However, if you go to the Library screen, then Menu > Open File and navigate to storage card > playlists, you can open any of your playlists...
Not ideal but it works.
I removed that file and it works fine now, jusy hope is stays the same for a few days.
Yeah, I've had the same problem too and I've tried all the various things suggested with limited success. The only surefire solution I've encountered is to copy all my important folders from the storage card to my desktop - minus any of the media files/folders and the msmeta data files, using resco, reformat the storage card, replace all the files from the desktop, resync and then synchronise he music through wm player again.
What a pain!
I can access the storage card through the File Explorer, but Windows Media Player stopped showing the storage card option in the library page. Weird, and annoying. I can only access my storage card song files through File Explorer. Can anyone help?
This has come up a few times in different threads.
Open File Explorer in wm5
Select Show all files from the options
Go to your storage card
Delete the file called METADATA
Open media player
Update the library as you usually do and the storage card should re-appear
You might need to do this from time to time. Most people do
careful with that camera eugene
I discovered that if I stop my music (not pause) and close (exit so that it is no longer running in the background) wmp before starting the camera app that I don't lose my library on the storage card anymore.
if you poke around in the registry, a few things in the camera app are interesting here. there is a coexistwithwmp item, which is set to false. this causes the camera app to kill wmp. there are also some timers to shut down wmp. I think these are the culprit but I haven't had time to prove it. maybe someone on the forum has fewer kids....
wes
Craig, that solved my problem. I can finally stop wrenching my head over this.
Thanks guys for the tips
8125 Storage Card not Showing up in Windows Media Player 11
cdyat said:
This has come up a few times in different threads.
Open File Explorer in wm5
Select Show all files from the options
Go to your storage card
Delete the file called METADATA
Open media player
Update the library as you usually do and the storage card should re-appear
You might need to do this from time to time. Most people do
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I tried this on my 8125, but it didn't work. Is an 8125 differant than a 8585 for this problem?
To be clear, when you say "open media player" then "update the library...", you mean the PC based Windows Media Player 11, right?
Any insight on this issue would be most appreciated, as always.
Eric
Update media player on 8585.
Mike
cdyat said:
This has come up a few times in different threads.
Open File Explorer in wm5
Select Show all files from the options
Go to your storage card
Delete the file called METADATA
Open media player
Update the library as you usually do and the storage card should re-appear
You might need to do this from time to time. Most people do
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Funny, I just did that, and now my librara only shows "My Device" (not "Storage Card" anymore...)
Thanks
Well it worked great for me
Thanks guys
Slainte
Spliff1
I posted a solution in the Excalibur forum for this problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298971
Ok, I have learned that 1 gig is very unlike my 30 gig mp3 player but realistically I am growing towards the idea that the whole sync thing can be used to bring on and take off music when I get tired of it. Meaning, before when I could shove everythnig and its mother onto one device I really didn't care what was on there. but now, space is limited... I guess it is kinda like going from country side estate to a New York Sublet.
Alas we have to make due. So what do you guys use and what do you have the most functionality with.
For me this is how it has been. I have WMP 11 on my computer and Itunes as far as players go I have the WMP PPC and TCMPHP (i know I know) thingy on my pc... I played one video with the tcmpp thingy and it was shaking and fuzzy all over the place. I think it said it disabled my graphics card or something... WEIRD... but I removed it imediatley... anyone else have that problem? I digress...
the functionality of the WMP, forget about codecs for a second, I am only worried about mp3's right now, seems a bit archaic. you can't make a playlist but you can sync one. Which is fine. But, on my intitial setup with WMP on my computer I didn't include the music that the device had and the whole thing won't sync that... I was trying to delete the profile on the PC and NO LUCK... can't figure it out. anyways. As well, I noticed that some music you download doesn't have the proper tags or information. Fixing this in WMP is a true PAIN in the ARSE.
Fixing it in ITUNES is so much better and the tags you create actually stick with the mp3 file... For those of you who have been having trouble finding songs that you have in your device but they won't show up in the all music directory of WMP... THIS is why. Again, Itunes wins out for this one.
for me, I want to go all out for ITunes but I dont' think it will make a playlist that the WMP will recognize... will tcmp play the itunes media player and can you sync to the player or proper folder
OOOOO... that reminds me when I do sync I want it to go to specific folder I have on my device in my storage card. It goes to the freaking storage card but puts it right on the root and keeps creating a "my music" folder to put the music in... THis burns me up because it is not what I want. Again, anyone know how to fix this.
I dunno, I have been playing with this for weeks and would sure like to hear what you all are doing and what works the best.
Thanks in advance.
I use iTunes to TAG my mp3s and convert them into one standard bitrate [I use 128kbps on all my mp3s]
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For syncing I use WMP11 on my XP notebook. All these are done on WMP11...
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To remove a partnership: Right-click on the Storage Card and Remove Sync Partnership
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To setup a Auto-sync: Re-connect your device/storage card. Right click and choose Set up Sync, check Sync this device automatically to sync music each time you connect your device/card. Choose the playlists you want sync'd and your off. It's a bit slow using USB but really fast when using a card reader. You may be prompted the first time you connect your card to rename it and some other options.
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If you didn't rename your card to begin with you still can: Right click on it and choose Advanced there are some more options there to for quality/conversion settings [I don't mess with those since I've already converted and tagged my files before putting them inside my Music library]
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Re: Music folder being organized by Artist-Album IIRC it could be removed pre-WMP11 but on WMP11 the tickbox for this is check and grayed out.
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WMP11 may be a pain in the ass to use and it really is inferior to iTunes in a lot of ways but I've learned to bear with it.
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What I like about WMP10PPC is that it has built in support for A2DP/AVRCP [never used TCPMP for music/videos]. I try not to install additional apps that I think the PPC is capable of doing out of the box. Maybe you can try this software [used google to find it] it's supposed to sync iTunes playlists to a WM device, it's called TunesSync for Windows Mobile. Haven't tried it though.
couple questions... when you snyc what folder on your sd card does it go to.. mine automatically trie to go on the root of my storage card but I don't want it to do that.
As well, I can't remove the parternship so that it starts over again... I dunno why but I can't do it... meaning if you remove the partnership will it prompt you to start over again and reconfigure the settings to your liking???
As well, yes, the tagging in WM11 is rediculous... but ITunes is way superior in that category... hmmmm shame but I dunno... I might give that Itunes sync to card a try.
My mp3s sync to...
\Storage Card\Music\Artist\Album [for single artist albums]
\Storage Card\Music\Various Artists\Album [for compilations]
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Hmm odd I can easily end and re-establish sync relationships using WMP11. Maybe you can try disconnecting the device, restart both PPC and WMP11 and try again?
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be sure to post on how it goes with the synctunes thingy.
I dunno... wierd... I need to go home and try to work this out.
I rely totally on the CorePlayer Mobile (aka TCPMPWhatever) to play MP3's and videos straight from my storage card. Why? 1) The sound quality is better. CorePlayer includes an equalizer, so you can mess with the settings. You can also increase the pre-amp if you have really quiet audio recordings you want to listen to. 2) You don't have to bother with the file converting like you do with WMP. I use a utility like CardExport or WM5torage to put it directly on the card, completely bypassing the converting mess. It saves a lot of time, especially with videos.
I haven't totally abandoned WMP, though. I use Orb.com to stream music/videos to the WMP on my PPC, and effectively have a 1TB MP3 player.
christian15213 said:
I played one video with the tcmpp thingy and it was shaking and fuzzy all over the place. I think it said it disabled my graphics card or something... WEIRD... but I removed it imediatley... anyone else have that problem? I digress...
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Oh, and if you're having problems with the video shaking and what not, try changing the video output driver. Menu -> Tools -> Preferences -> Select Page -> Video. I had this problem with a few videos, and I resolved it by changing the ATI Imageon to either DirectDraw or Raw FrameBuffer. I don't know why some videos have problems with one driver or the other, but switching it sometimes helps.
BTW, if you want to re-enable the ATI OS Bitmap caching (which CorePlayer automatically disables), you can switch it back at Menu -> Tools -> Preferences -> Select Page -> ATI Imageon. I assume you need to soft reset after you make the change.
Edit: I just realized you might be using the actual TCPMP, which is the free version of CorePlayer. If that's the case, the settings might be in a different place in the program, but it's probably still there.
QuachMD said:
Oh, and if you're having problems with the video shaking and what not, try changing the video output driver. Menu -> Tools -> Preferences -> Select Page -> Video. I had this problem with a few videos, and I resolved it by changing the ATI Imageon to either DirectDraw or Raw FrameBuffer. I don't know why some videos have problems with one driver or the other, but switching it sometimes helps.
BTW, if you want to re-enable the ATI OS Bitmap caching (which CorePlayer automatically disables), you can switch it back at Menu -> Tools -> Preferences -> Select Page -> ATI Imageon. I assume you need to soft reset after you make the change.
Edit: I just realized you might be using the actual TCPMP, which is the free version of CorePlayer. If that's the case, the settings might be in a different place in the program, but it's probably still there.
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yes, for sure the free... but from what I gather by the response for music the WMP is better.
Oh, well I'm not sure about that. The music on the CorePlayer is definitely better than the WMP, though.
but can you synch with it? that is the question / problem.
Yes, but you don't need to.
You can sync it the usual way, and have all your MP3's in a folder like "Music". You can then have CorePlayer point towards that file.
OR.... you can just copy a whole bunch of MP3's into said folder, and not have to sync it at all. You can do this with 1) a usb card reader, 2) WM5torage, or 3) CardExport.
I prefer not to do the syncing. The latter method is infinitely quicker and straight forward. It's simply a matter of copying the MP3's into a folder on the storage card.
i dont bother syncing,
i just copy the mp3 folders to the sd card and launch the playlisy in mortplayer for mp3's.
simplest and best solution i have found.
WMP takes up too much ram when playing mp3's, typical microsoft, redundant code just taking up memory.
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Yes, but you don't need to.
You can sync it the usual way, and have all your MP3's in a folder like "Music". You can then have CorePlayer point towards that file.
OR.... you can just copy a whole bunch of MP3's into said folder, and not have to sync it at all. You can do this with 1) a usb card reader, 2) WM5torage, or 3) CardExport.
I prefer not to do the syncing. The latter method is infinitely quicker and straight forward. It's simply a matter of copying the MP3's into a folder on the storage card.
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Cingular 8525 and wm5storage = bad four letter word... not on our device :-( pouty face...
as well, yea the memory issue on the WMP is a concern... as well when you try to logg off to save battery it automatically pauses the darned player...
bnycastro said:
My mp3s sync to...
\Storage Card\Music\Artist\Album [for single artist albums]
\Storage Card\Music\Various Artists\Album [for compilations]
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Hmm odd I can easily end and re-establish sync relationships using WMP11. Maybe you can try disconnecting the device, restart both PPC and WMP11 and try again?
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be sure to post on how it goes with the synctunes thingy.
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I still can't figure how to end sync... errrr
I was hoping this would go away in WM6 but it's still there.
It seems kinda ramdom, but I suspect it is related to removing/reinserting the microSD card, or updating it via drag& drop (rather than Sync with Media Player).
What happens is Windows Media Player stops seeing the Storage Card.
I can still play files by "running" them from File Explorer. If I choose Update Library in WMP, it scans the device and tries to add them, but times out.
The only way to get things working again, is to delete the MSMETADATA directory from the storage card and then tell WMP to rescan again.
I think this is a fairly common problem, but does anyone know exactly what causes it? Or a better fix than having to delete/recreate the metadata each time?
I'm suspecting it is because I am not using WMP on the PC to sync music. Syncing with mobile devices doesn't seem to be its strength though - I have my device in there twice and can't remove either instance. Also ActiveSync always says "Setup must be complete" for the WMP item, even though I have set it up several times.
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Sync Album Art to the SD Card
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I have found that you'll always want your album art tagged to your music, especially if you use S2P, here are two ways to sync, EASY and FAST.
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The EASY way
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Using this method, you simply sync your music directly from your computer to your device. The transfer rate is awfully slow, but if you use WMP on your computer, it will sync additional info like your updated ratings and play count. Don't completely worry about the speed, as it's only slow the first time you sync, after all the music is on the card, you are good to go, unless you have new tracks. I use this way myself and have found it to be the best, since it updates the track info and autoplaylists as my other data syncs.
Code:
1. Be sure your SD card is in your device first!
2. Open WMP on your desktop and select the "Sync" tab.
3. Two "devices" should have appeared in the left-hand pane, your device and SD card.
If you use WMP on your device, completely ignore the reference to your device for
syncing, otherwise everytime you open your library on your device, you'll have to
set the library to the SD. Not a huge deal, but gets to be annoying after a while.
4. Right-click on your SD card in the left-hand pane, and select "Advanced Options...."
5. When the popup appears, choose the "Quality" tab.
6. Make sure the first option to convert the files according to the device is UNCHECKED!
7. Choose "Apply", then "OK", now your good to go!
The reason for this is, WMP recognizes the SD card as a device without a screen, so to save room, it removes the album art, so simply by not converting any of the media, it will keep all tagged data.
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The FAST way
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By syncing this way, you fool your computer into thinking your SD card is a device with a screen. You'll sync the music directly to your SD card through your computer with a card reader, which makes it MUCH faster than the first option. The only downside, you'll have to remove your SD card everytime you need to re-sync. A little more work required, but only once! I forget where I found this, but thanks!
Code:
1. Sync your device with WMP on your desktop, but only sync ONE song.
To do this simply open the "Sync" tab, choose your device on the left-hand pane,
and drop any ONE random song in the right-hand pane. I must emphasize only ONE,
since it's all you need, and memory is low.
2. After your done with the one song, disconnect your device from your computer.
3. Make sure your SD card is in your device.
4. Locate, with a file explorer, the root of your device "\", just hit "Up", until you
have reached the top!
5. Find the file, probably at the end, named "WMPInfo.xml"
6. MOVE, not copy, that file to the root of your SD card "\Storage Card",
if asked to overwrite, select yes.
7. After you have moved the file, remove the SD card from your device, and insert it
into your computer.
8. As before, choose the "Sync" tab, you'll find you SD card in the left-hand pane,
now choose to sync the music you wish.
9. While syncing, or at any time, you may delete the one song you previously synced.
You must transfer the .xml file because it contains the info that notifies WMP that the "device" [SD card] has a "screen", so it will include the album art during the sync.
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Thank you for the tip. I always had issues with WMP and syncing to my card when it came to album art. But also if you are lucky enough to get your hands on mediamonkey, it will grab high quality album art, organize, and sync it all to the card or the phone without issue. (and its a nice media player.)
Now if only I could figure out how to do it on linux easily.
how do you get album art for every song easily?
i mean this would be so much better for me if my songs had album art...
kidnamedAlbert said:
how do you get album art for every song easily?
i mean this would be so much better for me if my songs had album art...
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Update album info in the library in WMP. If that fails, download from Amazon and put it in the same folder as the album and name the art as folder.jpg
1999TL said:
Update album info in the library in WMP. If that fails, download from Amazon and put it in the same folder as the album and name the art as folder.jpg
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i didnt know wmp did that!
thanks!
I did have bad reading comprehension though. You said for each song individually. I would like to know how to do it. I just do it for albums. But I'd like a program to add it to each file individually if I have singles. The problem with this is, HTC audio manager and WMP dont play nice with embedded art using the advanced tag editor.
1999TL said:
I did have bad reading comprehension though. You said for each song individually. I would like to know how to do it. I just do it for albums. But I'd like a program to add it to each file individually if I have singles. The problem with this is, HTC audio manager and WMP dont play nice with embedded art using the advanced tag editor.
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oh yeah i just realized that. i used to use Media Monkey but its not free and i messed up alot of my songs not knowing how to use it.
Try a program called Mp3tag
//Drakfisken