My Wizard shows that storage space is really less while application space is way too much. I have moved most of the applications from The device memory to storage card and it still shows less memory. What can i possibly delete to get more storage space. My Documents etc, everything is on Storage Card. I tried to check the filesize of folders and most of them dont even go more then 1MB or so and they can in no way add up to 43MB storage space used :S... Can someone help me, without actually having to hardreset the device,
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Hi all,
Could anyone please tell me the differences between the storage memory and the program memory? Yeah, I know this might sounds stupid and I also wish that the answer is really that straight forward.
I always thought that 'Program Memory' is suppose the memory quota for us to install application & softwares. Where, storage memory is just simply the portion of memory where we stores data that we creates.
But whenever I install applications, 'storage' is the memory which always to be used up. Yet, I can hardly use up my 'program' portion of memory...
Can anyone tell me why? and how to install applications in the program memory instead of storage memory?
Thank you very much.
Cheers!
Search would have helped a great deal here, FAQ.
Storage is Flash
Programs is RAM
WM5 works the same way as a desktop. It loads the OS from disk to RAM when you power it on. When you remove the battery everything is safely stored to disc, not RAM as WM2003 was. Battery can go flat, no backup battery needed.
PReDiToR said:
Search would have helped a great deal here, FAQ.
Storage is Flash
Programs is RAM
WM5 works the same way as a desktop. It loads the OS from disk to RAM when you power it on. When you remove the battery everything is safely stored to disc, not RAM as WM2003 was. Battery can go flat, no backup battery needed.
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..... so how do you save stuff to Program memory? Or is that just temp momory that stuff runs from when you execute it?
You can`t save stuff to program memory.The program memory is like the RAM in your PC,just used for temporary storage and running programs.The storage memory is like the hard drive in your PC,used for actually `storing` data.
liverman666 said:
You can`t save stuff to program memory.The program memory is like the RAM in your PC,just used for temporary storage and running programs.The storage memory is like the hard drive in your PC,used for actually `storing` data.
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So why do they bother displaying it on the memory settings?
And does that mean it's different to how it was on the XDA2? That used to have a slider allowing you to change the allocation for storage/program memory.
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I find storage memory is the one you need to watch out. As you install more programs whether to SD card or to Program memory the storage memory goes down
Too low storage memory and your system will not perform properly. Install programs with large file size first then follow by programs with smaller file size otherwise you'll encounter installation 'Not enough memory' if you do it the other way round
in the 8525 there is about 48MB available for storage and 48MB available for running prgrams. ive been installing everything in the storage card, still somehow there is only 2MB of storage space left, ANY IDEA ???
doesn't make sense...is that 2mb left on the card? what rom are u using? and what setting do u see only 2mb out of 48mb space left?
Depends on what apps... Some STILL save on the Hermes despite you selecting memory card... You may have to manually move them over and create shortcuts using a file explorer...
Tomtom6 did this and I've had a couple of other apps do so too.
Cheers...
Have you cleared your browser cache? It can really eat up memory.
Here are some other things to look out:
- Unless you go to messaging, menu, options, storage, and check the use storage card to store attachments, all attachments will be saved on the phone memory.
- Relocate the browser cache to the storage card, using advanced configuration. If your rom doesn't include it, look in this forum for it.
- synchronized files on activesync are stored on the storage memory. Use 3rd party programs to synch them to the storage card (like Pocket Controller).
So maybe this is asking for a lot or something that can’t be done, but has anyone found a way to remap or ADD a storage card as possible program memory? This would add so much more support for these phones if it could be done.
When you say "program memory" do you mean RAM? If so, there doesn't appear to be any way this is possible at this time. There would be too much lag between accessing the sd card and using the RAM, among other things.
If you mean storage of Apps and such then you can do that with heaps of programs, though some DO require being put into main memory. The windows files can't be put on he SD card for the same reason and there wold be no drivers to tell the Hermes to access the sd card. Things like Tomtom and other apps sometime do install to main memory but are able to be moved to the storage card, you just need to re do the shortcuts.
Cheers...
I meant as ram, I know you can do program installations to storage card, most of my large ones are done that way, but I was simply referring to when you are doing something and you just want to open the com manager and its like Not enought memory, close a program... but since it sounds like it wouldnt be fast or even possible then scratch that idea.
I referred to it as "program memory" because in the memory watcher ram is listed as that.
Hello,
Can someone elaborate on what is meant by Storage memory and Program memory?
I would expect storage to be My Docs and Programs to be Windows and so on. I ask since my Storage allocation is two thirds full and all my docs on the device is empty. I use the SD card for that.
Cheers.
rphillip said:
Hello,
Can someone elaborate on what is meant by Storage memory and Program memory?
I would expect storage to be My Docs and Programs to be Windows and so on. I ask since my Storage allocation is two thirds full and all my docs on the device is empty. I use the SD card for that.
Cheers.
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-Storage memory is memory used for saving files on you're phone, extention is you're memory card (micro SD).
-Program memory, is like the RAM-memory on you're PC, this is used when running programmes, watching movies-pictures...
Thanks. Well there are two storage areas. "Main" and "Storage Card". My query is for "Main". Within this there is "Storage" and "Program".
I would like to know what is used for what so I can look in a specific area and delete stuff I don't need. Like I said "Storage" seems rather full but I do not store anything on the phone itself. I use the storage card which does not present a problem.
In the storage info on the settings tab, under device it shows "storage" which is like your hard drive, and "program" which is like your RAM. Obviously, you don't actually have a hard drive. It's just an example
There's certain stuff that gets cached on the internal storage, and this can obviously bump up the space that's used (there's threads on here for cleaning/moving these things). Then there's the other culprit - Marketplace. If you've installed stuff from there, it's on internet memory, not your storage card. Also, do you install software to the device, or to the storage card? I only put essential stuff on the device, and stuff that I can live without on the storage card.
Just thoughts and suggestions.
johncmolyneux said:
In the storage info on the settings tab, under device it shows "storage" which is like your hard drive, and "program" which is like your RAM. Obviously, you don't actually have a hard drive. It's just an example
There's certain stuff that gets cached on the internal storage, and this can obviously bump up the space that's used (there's threads on here for cleaning/moving these things). Then there's the other culprit - Marketplace. If you've installed stuff from there, it's on internet memory, not your storage card. Also, do you install software to the device, or to the storage card? I only put essential stuff on the device, and stuff that I can live without on the storage card.
Just thoughts and suggestions.
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Ah ok that explains a little then. I have been installing cabs to the device.
Do not understand; my total storage memory is 181,23MB, in use is 175,21MB, but when I check in explorer, there is only 89MB in use. What am I missing here??
Also, what does it mean program storage - total space 336,97MB?
Flash size 512MB, RAM size 448MB, what is the difference?
Its rather more complex than it ought to be, and HTC are being a little 'economical' with the truth!
It has 512MB of total storage, of which about 175MB is taken up by the ROM image. This leaves the 337MB you see reported. Of this, about 150MB is taken up by the HTC Sense system, then another chunk by the video memory leaving around 135MB free to the user. The new 'Light' custom ROMs without HTC Sense have over 300MB free to the user.
The 448MB RAM is just that- same as a PCs RAM. Even after loading the OS on startup there is ample ROM left for pretty much any eventuality!
What can i do to get more? i seem to only have 200mb
any pointers?
custom roms have varying amounts of storage, some are really high, if you are really desperate for that much, try a 576mb rom.
you could also install a microsd card, they are relatively cheap all the way to around 8-16gb's larger cards do work in the hd2 but they get very pricey after this.
Xp3RiM3nT said:
if you are really desperate for that much, try a 576mb rom.
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576MB roms are for 576MB of RAM, not storage. Doesn't help him.
Anyway yes, there are custom roms with more or fewer preinstalled programs and thus free space, but 200MB is about the norm, you'll have to live with that, use your storage card for most, and... read the forum for hints as there are already 1000's of threads about low internal memory...
kilrah said:
576MB roms are for 576MB of RAM, not storage. Doesn't help him.
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ah yes >< forgot about that.
as for the actual low memory thing? what are you doing with your memory?
I find pictures and music should go on an sd card and programs should go on the device storage and I dont seem to have many problems.
I currently have 35 programs showing in my remove programs window (this doesnt show everything) although I could probably delete half of these and not even notice they are gone :S
I have 12 megs free(out of 278 megs) in my device memory (getting kinda low) and 6 gigs used out of 8 gigs on the sd card.
I tend to use groovemobile for music if I have a decent internet connection, although most of that sd card space is music and tomtom maps.
Make sure you delete the stock images that come with the phone (copy to sd card if you wanna keep them) and delete the music that come preloaded. That'l give you a few more MB.
As already said, you wont need to install many things to device memory, just get a decent class of SD card.
internal memory
Is there a way of seeing which programs may have been installed to the onboard memory and whats to the storage microSD? Some kind of app or something? I know there are folders but guess that does not always mean it was installed to the onboard memory.
Search for MTreeSize, good thing to see folder sizes and see what uses more memory than expected.
IC_C (12MB) Can this be deleted
IC_C (12MB)
Can this be deleted without causing problems?
There are several files in the HTC ALBUM folder that are big!
Yes, but it will rebuild itself in no time. Search for HTC album cache on here, there's a fix to move it to storage card.
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ah thats much better, now i have more spare space than whats used! Awsome!!
Thank you