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Sharing GPRS connection on XDA2 with IPAQ using BluetoothGPS

Hi,
I'm trying to share my GPRS connection with my friend who has the IPAQ 1940. I'd like to use the Bluetooth connection.
I am using the BluetoothGPS.zip bluetooth stack which is basically the IPAQ one.
Can I just initate a SSA connection on the IPAQ and it'll automatically dial on mine?

To share Xda II intenet access to group of ppc or PC, I use pocketpcproxy (I named it ).
But that program are not perfected yet. If you are interesting, please check at http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72
or http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/default.asp :wink:

Thanks, that's what i'm looking for...
BUT I noticed that the Widcomm bluetooth hacked drivers cause a lot of problems with the Pocket PC... Once you install that, your regular bluetooth gets messed up.
Also, you cannot use the Widcomm for SSA.
I'll email him anyway, thanks

Lan access with MDA Compact via bluetooth accespoint.

Can somebody tell me how to connect my MDA compact to my wlan router via bluetooth ? I've got a bluetooth access point (dlink DBT-900AP) that is connected by ethernet cable to my router/adsl modem.
I want to use email en internet access with my MDA Compact.
The standard built in bluetooth manager seems not to support this LAN access through bluetooth. Who can help me ?

i have the same prob ;-(
i have a qtek2020 and dlink dbt-900ap bluetooth acceess point attached to usrobotics router...
zeee

Ronnie12 said:
Can somebody tell me how to connect my MDA compact to my wlan router via bluetooth ? I've got a bluetooth access point (dlink DBT-900AP) that is connected by ethernet cable to my router/adsl modem.
I want to use email en internet access with my MDA Compact.
The standard built in bluetooth manager seems not to support this LAN access through bluetooth. Who can help me ?
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The BT Lan Access Service using Microsoft BT Stack has been removed in the registry. It's been like that since XDA2.
I do not know if there is a corresponding driver available in MDA Compact such that you can re-enable the service via updated registry entries.
Anyone?

i think it needs the ppp bluetooth profile
and ms bluetooth stack dont have that
vidcomm bluetooth stack does....
you can try using that

henrylim said:
The BT Lan Access Service using Microsoft BT Stack has been removed in the registry. It's been like that since XDA2.
I do not know if there is a corresponding driver available in MDA Compact such that you can re-enable the service via updated registry entries.
Anyone?
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Found the reg entry with missing configuration:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Services\00001102-0000-1000-8000-00805F9B34FB]
@="Lan Access"
and here are some more...
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Services\00001105-0000-1000-8000-00805F9B34FB]
@="OBEX Push"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Services\00001106-0000-1000-8000-00805F9B34FB]
@="OBEX FTP"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Services\00001112-0000-1000-8000-00805F9B34FB]
@="Headset Audio Gateway"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Services\00001124-0000-1000-8000-00805F9B34FB]
@="HID"
Anyone knows enough of these entries?

just add those to your device, apply the other things from msdn you've found and restart your device. then scan your ppc on the pc for open services...

I have found a workaround
I'm the happy owner of an MDA Compact and a Siemens blue2net access point. Indeed, the Microsoft Bluetooth stack refused to talk to the access point, which only offers the "Lan Access" profile.
I tried the suggested registry hack. Good idea, but sadly it does not work. It would appear that the "Lan Access" profile is simply not supported by the Bluetooth stack - it has not just been disabled by deleting a few registry entries
However, I found a workaround. After a few hours of fighting with the Microsoft stack, I downloaded a free Bluetooth stack from Toshiba (http://aps.toshiba-tro.de/bluetooth/) that supports the "Lan Access" profile. I did a full backup of my MDA Compact, adopted the "brace position", and prepared for a crash landing (aka hard reset).
After installing the Toshiba Bluetooth stack, I simply had to do a soft reset to activate it. Big surprise for me: my MDA still worked. Clicking the Microsoft Bluetooth icon in the status bar now told me that my toy had no Bluetooth support; however, clicking the new Toshiba Bluetooth icon brought up a different (and better, IMHO) Bluetooth interface. From here I could see the blue2net access point. Not only that - I could actually connect to it. The rest was piece of cake: add the Bluetooth device and configure a modem connection via it. I am now happily surfing the web via Bluetooth
The only caveats I have so far are these:
1) I now have a disfunctional Microsoft Bluetooth icon in the status line. I would like to get rid of that. Please drop me a note if someone knows how to do that.
2) When using the Toshiba Bluetooth stack, the diode above the screen does not blink blue when Bluetooth is active. A small price to pay for having internet access

i am about to do as lars_juhl has stated on my xda II knowning that he messed with mda compact and i have a xda II but still i am going to do as he has stated will let you guys know wat happens.
FINGERS CROSSED !!

ok ive downloaded bluetooth stack v3.10.00 from the link that you've given and after extracting the contents of the zipped file on my desktop i have.
1.QFE (FOLDER)
2.SD_HOST_driver (Folder)
3.us (Folder)
4.AutoAns (Exe)
5.AutoOn (Exe)
6.AutoSetup (Config File I Guess)
7.lmgLoad.dll
8.Setup (Exe)
9.TbpSetup (Exe)
10.TbpSetup (Config)
11.TosBtLoad.dll
12.Uninstall
care to tell me which is the file that you installed on your pda as a bluetooth profile and i shall follow you.
regards
jeetz

I think you're supposed to download the 'Pocket PC 2002 / Windows Mobile 2003' bluetooth stack. This shows version 5.01.
Goodluck.

@lars_juhl ??
help needed here

Re: I have found a workaround
lars_juhl said:
However, I found a workaround. After a few hours of fighting with the Microsoft stack, I downloaded a free Bluetooth stack from Toshiba (http://aps.toshiba-tro.de/bluetooth/) that supports the "Lan Access" profile. I did a full backup of my MDA Compact, adopted the "brace position", and prepared for a crash landing (aka hard reset).
1) I now have a disfunctional Microsoft Bluetooth icon in the status line. I would like to get rid of that. Please drop me a note if someone knows how to do that.
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Hi,
I've one question:
(a) Apart from Internet access, do you have other BT functions working?
e.g. Headset/Handsfree, BT ActiveSync??
The BT Tray Icon can be removed by deleting this registry key
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\BTIcon]
then reboot.
If you don't wish to remove the key, you can disable it by editing this parameter value under the registry key
change
"Dll"="BTIcon_Dll.dll" to
"Dll"="BTIcon_Dll.dll.disabled"
then reboot. When WM2003SE tries to load the Dll driver, it can't find it and therefore the MS BT system tray icon will not be activated.

The download is here:
http://aps.toshiba-tro.de/bluetooth/pages/download.php

Works great on my MDA Compact too (DLINK BT-900ap).
Many thanks for this idea.
Does anyone know if there is a way to turn on/off the bluetooth radio once this stack has been installed ? I have the feeling that it is always on, consuming precious energy...
BTW has anyone tried headsets with this stack. Do they work ?
Thanks agian,
Martin

andrewpmoore said:
The download is here:
http://aps.toshiba-tro.de/bluetooth/pages/download.php
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i did that mate downloaded the english version compatible with xp, but i wanna find out after downloading and extracting it which is the file that i am suppose to run so that the stack is installed on my pda ?

....my bt headset was recognized an paired (anycom headset) ... but is NOT working when calling...

thinksmart said:
Works great on my MDA Compact too (DLINK BT-900ap).
Many thanks for this idea.
Does anyone know if there is a way to turn on/off the bluetooth radio once this stack has been installed ? I have the feeling that it is always on, consuming precious energy...
BTW has anyone tried headsets with this stack. Do they work ?
Thanks agian,
Martin
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Yeah, I have the same question.
And one more: After turning off/on toshiba bt icon disappers. How to fix it?

it works for me but how can i turn bluetooth off ?!! i think it goes ON all the time

Yeah, the BT icon is disappearing after turning the device off as well as sometimes ramdomly.
The set-up app (bt_setup) cannot be restarted without soft reset, I get following error "An error occured with th Buetooth Card Confirm that the card is working properly."
M.

I installed the Toshiba bluetooth stack on my I-Mate Jam and it ROCKS - it includes ALL the functionality missing in the MS stack!
...BUT...
It is unstable as hell (I have experience all the bugs listed in this thread) and I am fairly sure this is due to the fact that both MS and Toshiba stacks try to use the same bluetooth hardware SIMULTANEOUSLY.
...SO...
has anyone figured how deinstall/reinstall the microsoft bluetooth stack on a Magician (I-Mate Jam, Qtek S-100, MDA Compact, XDA Mini)?

Wlan via bluetooth

Is it possible to make a wlan via a bluetooth dongle?
The type of my dongle is ES-388.
Does anybody has experience with this type= I only can use bluesolei and I just want to use the standar MS drivers but MS doesn´t see the dongle???

Generally Yes - although not technically WLAN.
And more specifically i havent tried it on my Wizard, but did have it working on my Ipaq.
What you need:
PC with network/internet conex
BT dongle
Decent BT stack for PC - i found a lovelly guid with a "version" of a Widcom (i think) stack and a lovelly guide, trouble is the files were removed off the site shortly after i read it for "breach of copyright".
Bridge BT network (PAN) and network (LAN) to make it work.
Fraid i cant share the files as i dont have any install files. but sure Google can help

The Bluetooth Stack on the HTC Wizard does not support Personal Area Network profile (PAN), so unless you manage to hack a different stack into the wizard, no, bluetooth networking will not work.
i think.

tsiros said:
The Bluetooth Stack on the HTC Wizard does not support Personal Area Network profile (PAN), so unless you manage to hack a different stack into the wizard, no, bluetooth networking will not work.
i think.
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no PAN :-o wtf is the BT stack there for? i cant see many things it CAN do really :'(

i was about to continue to bash the qtek for not having PAN, when a thought came to my mind...
IF YOU HAVE CONNECTED THE QTEK WITH CABLE AND SYNCED WITH ACTIVESYNC THE QTEK HAS NETWORK.
IF YOU CONNECT THE QTEK TO ACTIVESYNC WITH BLUETOOTH, IT HAS NETWORK, TOO!!!
I AM A D U M B A S S!!!!!

tsiros said:
i was about to continue to bash the qtek for not having PAN, when a thought came to my mind...
IF YOU HAVE CONNECTED THE QTEK WITH CABLE AND SYNCED WITH ACTIVESYNC THE QTEK HAS NETWORK.
IF YOU CONNECT THE QTEK TO ACTIVESYNC WITH BLUETOOTH, IT HAS NETWORK, TOO!!!
I AM A D U M B A S S!!!!!
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I know it's true. But I can't install my bluetooth dongle (ES-388) with the original xp drivers. So I only can use Bluesoleil and this does not work with activesync.

Bluesoleil does work with activesync - at least the version I have does with the BT dongle I have.

tsiros said:
IF YOU CONNECT THE QTEK TO ACTIVESYNC WITH BLUETOOTH, IT HAS NETWORK, TOO!!!
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mine doesn't show any network when connected via BT... :shock:

Wireless Modem via Bluetooth GPRS

Hey guys,
I got it to work once. But I have no idea how to make my iMate Jam connect to my PC's bluetooth connection using the Wireless Modem application on my Jam. Eveytime I fiddle around with that software it ends up screwing with my radio signal and I lose the signal. Then I have to reboot the phone to make it work again. Does anyone have any instruction on how to work this program? This seems to be so much harder than my P900 which I just used the Dial-up Bluetooth Modem and had it dial *99#. By the way I'm using the standard Windows XP Bluetooth stack with my USB Bluetooth adapter. Please help.

i've the same problem... anyone as a solution?

bt modem tip
On my sx66, i noticed i was having a problem with my modem connection, I noticed it wouldnt let me connect if I had already initiated a gprs session, ie. syncronizing with my excahnge server or pop mail accounts or web browsing on the pda. If i soft booted then connected the dial up connection it worked fine. In some cases i have heard some peoples PC would drop the DUN setting after every sesssion with the PC's BT settings.

rovert said:
Hey guys,
I got it to work once. But I have no idea how to make my iMate Jam connect to my PC's bluetooth connection using the Wireless Modem application on my Jam. Eveytime I fiddle around with that software it ends up screwing with my radio signal and I lose the signal. Then I have to reboot the phone to make it work again. Does anyone have any instruction on how to work this program? This seems to be so much harder than my P900 which I just used the Dial-up Bluetooth Modem and had it dial *99#. By the way I'm using the standard Windows XP Bluetooth stack with my USB Bluetooth adapter. Please help.
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This is why it's worth following my blog - I've published a tutorial of this over a month ago. Please read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=510&more=1

Forget the wireless modem application, it's not necessary for this for me.
Go to your PC's bluetooth and open it up. Is et Widcomm? Pair the phone with the PC.
ok, on the PC click on the paired phone and click search for available services. SSA should come up.
Set up a dial up connection with phone no *99# any username, password for your provider and it should connect. PLEASE' Note, you must be DISCONNECTED from GPRS on the phone first to make a connection from your PC.
You may also have to put in an APN on the bluetooth modem in Windows XP, Control Panel, phones and Modem options, as supplied by your provider. First let us know if you get as for as finding SSA?

Surgy, ignore last post, I just saw yin said you are using MS Bluetooth stack.

admisi said:
Surgy, ignore last post, I just saw yin said you are using MS Bluetooth stack.
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You can also use the DUN from the MS BT stack too.

Your tutorial only covers the newer devices with WM5. I'm using an older i-Mate Jam/Magician and when I do a discovery with my Bluetooth adapter on my PC I only see OBEX File Transfer, Serial Port, and Voice Gateway. I still can't figure out a way to do it wirelessly. I have figured out how to do it via USB cable and the Wireless Modem program on the Pocket PC but it's only a 28.8 connection whereas usually I connect at 56K with my Sony Ericsson P900. Strange stuff. Well I'll be upgrading to a Jamin shortly so I hope this will resolve my problem.

rovert said:
Your tutorial only covers the newer devices with WM5. I'm using an older i-Mate Jam/Magician and when I do a discovery with my Bluetooth adapter on my PC I only see OBEX File Transfer, Serial Port, and Voice Gateway. I still can't figure out a way to do it wirelessly. I have figured out how to do it via USB cable and the Wireless Modem program on the Pocket PC but it's only a 28.8 connection whereas usually I connect at 56K with my Sony Ericsson P900. Strange stuff. Well I'll be upgrading to a Jamin shortly so I hope this will resolve my problem.
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OIC. Strange. Some (for example, Verizon) PPC PE devices are crippled in that they can't be used as BT modems.

If you can't see the DUN or SSA or Dial Up. it sounds like your Bluetooth has been modified on the imate jam/mini.
Did you install either the Blue Soleil Stack or the new BLUETOOTH STOCK from this forum?.. If so, then this is the problem. Standard default Bluetooth Stack should show it in discovery.
What make is your bluetooth dongle?

admisi said:
If you can't see the DUN or SSA or Dial Up. it sounds like your Bluetooth has been modified on the imate jam/mini.
Did you install either the Blue Soleil Stack or the new BLUETOOTH STOCK from this forum?.. If so, then this is the problem. Standard default Bluetooth Stack should show it in discovery.
What make is your bluetooth dongle?
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I did upgrade it to the new bluetooth stack. I guess it did more harm than good. Is there anyway to undo it or must I hard reset and install everything all over again? I have a Logitech Dinovo Bluetooth Keyboard/Mouse combo.

WM5 Bluetooth stack and DialUp Networking (DUN)

I'm at my wits end with my T-Mobile MDA (aka HTC Wizard) and my new 2007 Acura RDX. The car can connect to the Internet via a Bluetooth phone to send/receive diagnostic messages to Acura, but I'm pretty sure the MS Bluetooth stack is disconnecting during the setup. I'm able to pair the HTC Wizard just fine with the car, and the handsfree functionality for sending/receiving voice calls works perfectly using the JETWare mobile Bluetooth extension on the phone. I've tried doing some basic registry tweaks in the HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth keys, but nothing helped. I can use my Sony Ericsson T68i phone just fine with this troublesome feature, but I really don't want to start using my old phone again. Any thoughts on what might be fubared with the DUN connectivity? I'm using the same dial strings too that work just fine on my laptop with the MDA (*99#) on T-Mobile's network. Thanks in advance for suggestions...

While I don't have specific info on your car, you may want to give a try to the
1, Widcomm BT stack (instead of the MS one)
2, AKU3 and BT PAN if your car also supports PAN and not just DUN.
Please check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282780 on the latter q.

Thanks for the reply. I've had older Pocket PC/Windows CE devices that used Widcomm, but I was under the impression that the MS Bluetooth stack was baked into the device ROM. Do I have to reflash the HTC Wizard ROM to get the Widcomm BT stack?
RE: option #2, I'm nearly certain that the car does not support PAN, but I'll dig around and see what I can find.
Thanks again.

Hmm... I just found this wiki page:
http://maemo.org/maemowiki/BluetoothDUN
which mentions Bluetooth DUN problems on the Samsung SGH-X820, which I believe is using WM5 or similar variant. At any rate, it mentions a "receive all" flag, and I'd love to know if there's a registry setting in WM5 that's related to this suggestion.

flashfreaker said:
Thanks for the reply. I've had older Pocket PC/Windows CE devices that used Widcomm, but I was under the impression that the MS Bluetooth stack was baked into the device ROM. Do I have to reflash the HTC Wizard ROM to get the Widcomm BT stack?
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nope, just install the Widcomm BT stack, not even a hard reset is needed - see the sticky thread.

Thanks again for the prompt reply. I followed the How To here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285696
and I also used SolSie's installation guide here to fill in some gaps:
http://solsie.com/?p=82
I used the CAB file here:
http://btfix.thcgirls.com/BroadcomBluetoothStackX51V05.zip
Bluetooth functionality seems to working ok, but I don't see Dialup Networking as a service now on my HTC Wizard. Do I need to upgrade the AKU ROM? I'm using the summer 06 ROM update from T-Mobile USA right now. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

flashfreaker said:
Bluetooth functionality seems to working ok, but I don't see Dialup Networking as a service now on my HTC Wizard. Do I need to upgrade the AKU ROM? I'm using the summer 06 ROM update from T-Mobile USA right now. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
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You're right - just tested this on my Wizard. No DUN service is visible- actually, HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Widcomm\BtConfig\Services doesn't contain any DUN service listed.
I'll tomorrow check this on my other 1.7 WM5 Widcomm-based Pocket PC's (hx4700, x51v) to see whether you can import this functionality in any way. My WM2003 iPAQ 2210 and WM2003SE PL720 lists this service; from the former (I only have this here at home in addition to my Wizard; the rest are all at work) a direct HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Widcomm\BtConfig\Services\ and [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Services\00001103-0000-1000-8000-00805F9B34FB] didn't work though.

From what I've read on other sporadic posts, it seems that the Windows Mobile registry has a setting for enabling a "receive all" parameter for Bluetooth that fixes DUN problems. I'm sure there's a bit of a security risk in that, but I'm willing to try anything at this point.

You mean the standard BT / IrDA receive all? It's not dangerous at all - and, for that matter, it doesn't even add much to the overall power consumption, contrary the popular belief (see my related power consumption measurements)

Thanks for the reply. I read your post(s) on power consumption--excellent stuff. I can see options for IR ("Receive all incoming connections"), but not for Bluetooth, other than the discoverable option. Is there some registry parameter? That's what I'm looking--if DUN is failing during a PPP connection because a some weird rejection command, I'd like to see if there's anything I can try out to work around that.

The "Recieve incoming beams / Recieve Incoming Connections" in the IR menu in also responsible for BT file recieves. In addition to enabling the BT discoverable option, you need this to be turned on to accept file tranfers. I'm not sure about how this is going to effect DUN, but give it a shot.
This is prolly what you might have read in one of those posts that you mentioned.

BTW, the DUN service will not be offered even with the Beam Receive option enabled.
This may mean, currently, unless someone invents a way to access DUN under Widcomm, it's impossible to use Widcomm-based WM5 PPC PE devices as external dial-up modems.

Hm...
I know this is kinda off topic of DUN, but using the Axim Widcomm stack on my 8125, I loose all sound from the speaker.... anyone else encounter this?

Yes I have this problem too, can be solved just by calling someone... but then there are other problems...
1)Memory leak after turning off Bluetooth.
2)Only solution is to leave it on, but there are other issues here, for me, so far, it is my Wizard hangs(require soft reset button) or the sound of the speakers dissappears and gets redirected to the phone speaker only... after about a days use..

Hm.... well.... suck. I wish someone released a custom ROM without the MS stack

pball3485 said:
Hm.... well.... suck. I wish someone released a custom ROM without the MS stack
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but from the axim site, you can actually remove the MS stack..