Hi,
I'm trying to share my GPRS connection with my friend who has the IPAQ 1940. I'd like to use the Bluetooth connection.
I am using the BluetoothGPS.zip bluetooth stack which is basically the IPAQ one.
Can I just initate a SSA connection on the IPAQ and it'll automatically dial on mine?
To share Xda II intenet access to group of ppc or PC, I use pocketpcproxy (I named it ).
But that program are not perfected yet. If you are interesting, please check at http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72
or http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/default.asp :wink:
Thanks, that's what i'm looking for...
BUT I noticed that the Widcomm bluetooth hacked drivers cause a lot of problems with the Pocket PC... Once you install that, your regular bluetooth gets messed up.
Also, you cannot use the Widcomm for SSA.
I'll email him anyway, thanks
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Can somebody tell me how to connect my MDA compact to my wlan router via bluetooth ? I've got a bluetooth access point (dlink DBT-900AP) that is connected by ethernet cable to my router/adsl modem.
I want to use email en internet access with my MDA Compact.
The standard built in bluetooth manager seems not to support this LAN access through bluetooth. Who can help me ?
i have the same prob ;-(
i have a qtek2020 and dlink dbt-900ap bluetooth acceess point attached to usrobotics router...
zeee
Ronnie12 said:
Can somebody tell me how to connect my MDA compact to my wlan router via bluetooth ? I've got a bluetooth access point (dlink DBT-900AP) that is connected by ethernet cable to my router/adsl modem.
I want to use email en internet access with my MDA Compact.
The standard built in bluetooth manager seems not to support this LAN access through bluetooth. Who can help me ?
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The BT Lan Access Service using Microsoft BT Stack has been removed in the registry. It's been like that since XDA2.
I do not know if there is a corresponding driver available in MDA Compact such that you can re-enable the service via updated registry entries.
Anyone?
i think it needs the ppp bluetooth profile
and ms bluetooth stack dont have that
vidcomm bluetooth stack does....
you can try using that
henrylim said:
The BT Lan Access Service using Microsoft BT Stack has been removed in the registry. It's been like that since XDA2.
I do not know if there is a corresponding driver available in MDA Compact such that you can re-enable the service via updated registry entries.
Anyone?
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Found the reg entry with missing configuration:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Services\00001102-0000-1000-8000-00805F9B34FB]
@="Lan Access"
and here are some more...
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Services\00001105-0000-1000-8000-00805F9B34FB]
@="OBEX Push"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Services\00001106-0000-1000-8000-00805F9B34FB]
@="OBEX FTP"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Services\00001112-0000-1000-8000-00805F9B34FB]
@="Headset Audio Gateway"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Services\00001124-0000-1000-8000-00805F9B34FB]
@="HID"
Anyone knows enough of these entries?
just add those to your device, apply the other things from msdn you've found and restart your device. then scan your ppc on the pc for open services...
I have found a workaround
I'm the happy owner of an MDA Compact and a Siemens blue2net access point. Indeed, the Microsoft Bluetooth stack refused to talk to the access point, which only offers the "Lan Access" profile.
I tried the suggested registry hack. Good idea, but sadly it does not work. It would appear that the "Lan Access" profile is simply not supported by the Bluetooth stack - it has not just been disabled by deleting a few registry entries
However, I found a workaround. After a few hours of fighting with the Microsoft stack, I downloaded a free Bluetooth stack from Toshiba (http://aps.toshiba-tro.de/bluetooth/) that supports the "Lan Access" profile. I did a full backup of my MDA Compact, adopted the "brace position", and prepared for a crash landing (aka hard reset).
After installing the Toshiba Bluetooth stack, I simply had to do a soft reset to activate it. Big surprise for me: my MDA still worked. Clicking the Microsoft Bluetooth icon in the status bar now told me that my toy had no Bluetooth support; however, clicking the new Toshiba Bluetooth icon brought up a different (and better, IMHO) Bluetooth interface. From here I could see the blue2net access point. Not only that - I could actually connect to it. The rest was piece of cake: add the Bluetooth device and configure a modem connection via it. I am now happily surfing the web via Bluetooth
The only caveats I have so far are these:
1) I now have a disfunctional Microsoft Bluetooth icon in the status line. I would like to get rid of that. Please drop me a note if someone knows how to do that.
2) When using the Toshiba Bluetooth stack, the diode above the screen does not blink blue when Bluetooth is active. A small price to pay for having internet access
i am about to do as lars_juhl has stated on my xda II knowning that he messed with mda compact and i have a xda II but still i am going to do as he has stated will let you guys know wat happens.
FINGERS CROSSED !!
ok ive downloaded bluetooth stack v3.10.00 from the link that you've given and after extracting the contents of the zipped file on my desktop i have.
1.QFE (FOLDER)
2.SD_HOST_driver (Folder)
3.us (Folder)
4.AutoAns (Exe)
5.AutoOn (Exe)
6.AutoSetup (Config File I Guess)
7.lmgLoad.dll
8.Setup (Exe)
9.TbpSetup (Exe)
10.TbpSetup (Config)
11.TosBtLoad.dll
12.Uninstall
care to tell me which is the file that you installed on your pda as a bluetooth profile and i shall follow you.
regards
jeetz
I think you're supposed to download the 'Pocket PC 2002 / Windows Mobile 2003' bluetooth stack. This shows version 5.01.
Goodluck.
@lars_juhl ??
help needed here
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lars_juhl said:
However, I found a workaround. After a few hours of fighting with the Microsoft stack, I downloaded a free Bluetooth stack from Toshiba (http://aps.toshiba-tro.de/bluetooth/) that supports the "Lan Access" profile. I did a full backup of my MDA Compact, adopted the "brace position", and prepared for a crash landing (aka hard reset).
1) I now have a disfunctional Microsoft Bluetooth icon in the status line. I would like to get rid of that. Please drop me a note if someone knows how to do that.
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Hi,
I've one question:
(a) Apart from Internet access, do you have other BT functions working?
e.g. Headset/Handsfree, BT ActiveSync??
The BT Tray Icon can be removed by deleting this registry key
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\BTIcon]
then reboot.
If you don't wish to remove the key, you can disable it by editing this parameter value under the registry key
change
"Dll"="BTIcon_Dll.dll" to
"Dll"="BTIcon_Dll.dll.disabled"
then reboot. When WM2003SE tries to load the Dll driver, it can't find it and therefore the MS BT system tray icon will not be activated.
The download is here:
http://aps.toshiba-tro.de/bluetooth/pages/download.php
Works great on my MDA Compact too (DLINK BT-900ap).
Many thanks for this idea.
Does anyone know if there is a way to turn on/off the bluetooth radio once this stack has been installed ? I have the feeling that it is always on, consuming precious energy...
BTW has anyone tried headsets with this stack. Do they work ?
Thanks agian,
Martin
andrewpmoore said:
The download is here:
http://aps.toshiba-tro.de/bluetooth/pages/download.php
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i did that mate downloaded the english version compatible with xp, but i wanna find out after downloading and extracting it which is the file that i am suppose to run so that the stack is installed on my pda ?
....my bt headset was recognized an paired (anycom headset) ... but is NOT working when calling...
thinksmart said:
Works great on my MDA Compact too (DLINK BT-900ap).
Many thanks for this idea.
Does anyone know if there is a way to turn on/off the bluetooth radio once this stack has been installed ? I have the feeling that it is always on, consuming precious energy...
BTW has anyone tried headsets with this stack. Do they work ?
Thanks agian,
Martin
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Yeah, I have the same question.
And one more: After turning off/on toshiba bt icon disappers. How to fix it?
it works for me but how can i turn bluetooth off ?!! i think it goes ON all the time
Yeah, the BT icon is disappearing after turning the device off as well as sometimes ramdomly.
The set-up app (bt_setup) cannot be restarted without soft reset, I get following error "An error occured with th Buetooth Card Confirm that the card is working properly."
M.
I installed the Toshiba bluetooth stack on my I-Mate Jam and it ROCKS - it includes ALL the functionality missing in the MS stack!
...BUT...
It is unstable as hell (I have experience all the bugs listed in this thread) and I am fairly sure this is due to the fact that both MS and Toshiba stacks try to use the same bluetooth hardware SIMULTANEOUSLY.
...SO...
has anyone figured how deinstall/reinstall the microsoft bluetooth stack on a Magician (I-Mate Jam, Qtek S-100, MDA Compact, XDA Mini)?
Hi, All!
I have a JAM and HP iPAQ hx4700 and i want to use my JAM as a bluetooth GPRS modem for iPAQ. Can anyone tell me how can I do this?
Imate - Jam as GPRS modem
Lots of people want this also.
You need to sort the bluetooth stack out first
Something like BT Tools would be nice
Can anyone out there help?
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jonboy8841 said:
Something like BT Tools would be nice
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what is bt tools? I cant find this program
Has anyone gotten the imate JAM working as a GPRS modem via BT with any other PPC's or iPaqs?
I've just installed Pocket BT Tools... didn't do any good.
This should work (event though I don't understand the sense of it). The SSA profile is platform independent and when the stack of the HP is capable of using this profile from another device, it should work. Let me put it like this - if you can use it with your Pc, you should be able to use it with the IPaq.
Dandie said:
This should work (event though I don't understand the sense of it). The SSA profile is platform independent and when the stack of the HP is capable of using this profile from another device, it should work. Let me put it like this - if you can use it with your Pc, you should be able to use it with the IPaq.
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I want to use the HP HX4700 for surfing because of its 480x640 VGA screen. I can pair the HX4700 and imate JAM via BT just fine. However, when the HX4700 attemps to use the JAM's GPRS connection, the JAM never dials out. The HP eventually returns an error message "cannot connect..." I've tried using the JAM's wireless modem app as well, with the same results. I'm not certain where the whole process is breaking down.
What parameters do you use? You should do the same as for your PC. Have you successfully connected to your Magician's modem with your PC? If not, try that first. Search the forum for tips.
Dandie said:
What parameters do you use? You should do the same as for your PC. Have you successfully connected to your Magician's modem with your PC? If not, try that first. Search the forum for tips.
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My PC doesn't have any BT hardware, so I can't exactly test it using that platform. My HP HX4700 can use my SE P910a as a BT modem without any problems. The question is whether or not the imate JAM and/or the HX4700 both have the required software to share the GPRS connection. I've already paired the two devices -- they can see each other. However, when I attempt to connect to the JAM from my HX4700 to use its GPRS internet connection, then JAM doesn't initiate the auto-dial-out.
As far as parameters, I just go through the BT wizard on both my HP HX4700 and imate JAM. I can complete both wizard questionaires without any problems. The only part that breaks down is the actual JAM GPRS dial-out, which never starts automatically as it should.
lord_shar said:
Has anyone gotten the imate JAM working as a GPRS modem via BT with any other PPC's or iPaqs?
I've just installed Pocket BT Tools... didn't do any good.
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Hi
Tried on :
DELL latitude D600 notebook - Works !
TOSHIBA E800 with WM 2003SE - Works !
IPAQ 1940 - Does Not Work !!
Loox 720 - Does not Work !
Using bluetooth SSA protocoll and the Wireless Modem application on the MDA Compact side (I-MATE ROM WWE112 english )
On IPAQ and Loox 720 same kind of error is reported (cannot connect for an unknown reason)
I was surprised Loox 720 does not work (otherwise this is one fine machine !
Cheers !
RAMSES II
One must have a chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing star. (F. Nietzsche)
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Hi,
I tried to use my loox 720 with magician too, it doesn't work in BT but works i n infrared.
do not laugh !!
Dear all,
I've tried almost everything to make a LAN bluetooth network, but no luck so far.
I've paired up my PDA with my PC, but at the end of the wizard I can't select any services, although I have a bluetooth network connection available in 'network connections'.
Is there some driver I need to install first ? I've heard something about 'PAN' for bluetooth wich is necessary for the use of internet over bluetooth ??
Can anyone help me how to do this ??
Oh yeah, I haven't got a XDA based PDA, but a DELL Axim X50v with windows mobile 2005, but i guess this is a general question wich is valid for all types of PDA's ?
Thanks in advance
the ms bluetooth stack dont support PEN
vidcomm does
or you can just connect to activesync then your pda
have the same network access as your pc unless you have
it disabled that is
I've already found the answer. (finally fieuw)
Now I can synchronize AND surf the internet through Bluetooth !!
http://axim.dpicts.com/
Hey guys,
I got it to work once. But I have no idea how to make my iMate Jam connect to my PC's bluetooth connection using the Wireless Modem application on my Jam. Eveytime I fiddle around with that software it ends up screwing with my radio signal and I lose the signal. Then I have to reboot the phone to make it work again. Does anyone have any instruction on how to work this program? This seems to be so much harder than my P900 which I just used the Dial-up Bluetooth Modem and had it dial *99#. By the way I'm using the standard Windows XP Bluetooth stack with my USB Bluetooth adapter. Please help.
i've the same problem... anyone as a solution?
bt modem tip
On my sx66, i noticed i was having a problem with my modem connection, I noticed it wouldnt let me connect if I had already initiated a gprs session, ie. syncronizing with my excahnge server or pop mail accounts or web browsing on the pda. If i soft booted then connected the dial up connection it worked fine. In some cases i have heard some peoples PC would drop the DUN setting after every sesssion with the PC's BT settings.
rovert said:
Hey guys,
I got it to work once. But I have no idea how to make my iMate Jam connect to my PC's bluetooth connection using the Wireless Modem application on my Jam. Eveytime I fiddle around with that software it ends up screwing with my radio signal and I lose the signal. Then I have to reboot the phone to make it work again. Does anyone have any instruction on how to work this program? This seems to be so much harder than my P900 which I just used the Dial-up Bluetooth Modem and had it dial *99#. By the way I'm using the standard Windows XP Bluetooth stack with my USB Bluetooth adapter. Please help.
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This is why it's worth following my blog - I've published a tutorial of this over a month ago. Please read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=510&more=1
Forget the wireless modem application, it's not necessary for this for me.
Go to your PC's bluetooth and open it up. Is et Widcomm? Pair the phone with the PC.
ok, on the PC click on the paired phone and click search for available services. SSA should come up.
Set up a dial up connection with phone no *99# any username, password for your provider and it should connect. PLEASE' Note, you must be DISCONNECTED from GPRS on the phone first to make a connection from your PC.
You may also have to put in an APN on the bluetooth modem in Windows XP, Control Panel, phones and Modem options, as supplied by your provider. First let us know if you get as for as finding SSA?
Surgy, ignore last post, I just saw yin said you are using MS Bluetooth stack.
admisi said:
Surgy, ignore last post, I just saw yin said you are using MS Bluetooth stack.
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You can also use the DUN from the MS BT stack too.
Your tutorial only covers the newer devices with WM5. I'm using an older i-Mate Jam/Magician and when I do a discovery with my Bluetooth adapter on my PC I only see OBEX File Transfer, Serial Port, and Voice Gateway. I still can't figure out a way to do it wirelessly. I have figured out how to do it via USB cable and the Wireless Modem program on the Pocket PC but it's only a 28.8 connection whereas usually I connect at 56K with my Sony Ericsson P900. Strange stuff. Well I'll be upgrading to a Jamin shortly so I hope this will resolve my problem.
rovert said:
Your tutorial only covers the newer devices with WM5. I'm using an older i-Mate Jam/Magician and when I do a discovery with my Bluetooth adapter on my PC I only see OBEX File Transfer, Serial Port, and Voice Gateway. I still can't figure out a way to do it wirelessly. I have figured out how to do it via USB cable and the Wireless Modem program on the Pocket PC but it's only a 28.8 connection whereas usually I connect at 56K with my Sony Ericsson P900. Strange stuff. Well I'll be upgrading to a Jamin shortly so I hope this will resolve my problem.
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OIC. Strange. Some (for example, Verizon) PPC PE devices are crippled in that they can't be used as BT modems.
If you can't see the DUN or SSA or Dial Up. it sounds like your Bluetooth has been modified on the imate jam/mini.
Did you install either the Blue Soleil Stack or the new BLUETOOTH STOCK from this forum?.. If so, then this is the problem. Standard default Bluetooth Stack should show it in discovery.
What make is your bluetooth dongle?
admisi said:
If you can't see the DUN or SSA or Dial Up. it sounds like your Bluetooth has been modified on the imate jam/mini.
Did you install either the Blue Soleil Stack or the new BLUETOOTH STOCK from this forum?.. If so, then this is the problem. Standard default Bluetooth Stack should show it in discovery.
What make is your bluetooth dongle?
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I did upgrade it to the new bluetooth stack. I guess it did more harm than good. Is there anyway to undo it or must I hard reset and install everything all over again? I have a Logitech Dinovo Bluetooth Keyboard/Mouse combo.
Hi,
can i use my magician as a bluetooth headset for skype, voipbuster and so on?
I'm using latest bluesoleil stack on my ppc and widcomm stack on pc. On the PC i enabled the bluetooth gateway service but when i search for available services from bluesoleil's bluetooth manager, it cannot discover this one.
Did some of you succeeded in this? Should i use a different bluetooth stack? (i know that there are three different stacks for magician: MS one, bluesoleil and another one i don't remember the name).
Thanks for help,
I will call you @home to thank you if you find a solution (but you'll have to excuse my POOR english)!!!
Bye,
Isidoro
If you just want to use skype, try it this way. Use active sync via blue-tooth or if you have gprs it would be even better. There is a PPC version of skype available. Download and use it.
Visit www.cartystudios.com for more ppc stuffs
Carty said:
If you just want to use skype, try it this way. Use active sync via blue-tooth or if you have gprs it would be even better. There is a PPC version of skype available. Download and use it.
Visit www.cartystudios.com for more ppc stuffs
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Thanks but my problem is: i need to use voipbuster since it allows me to call home numbers (like skypeout) but FREE. Voipbuster can be used with any SIP compatible softphone and sjphone is one of them.
Unluckily, sjphone won't work with an activesync passthrough connection (that is: a bluetooth serial port conn to ActiveSync with the latter acting as a proxy to the Internet) since ActiveSync doesn't allow UDP connections.
Then i tried installing bluesoleil stack and creating a PAN connection with my pc (in windows server 2003 i bridged bluetooth and LAN NIC together). Now i can use sjphone but, don't know why, call quality is ORRIBLE!!! Maybe bandwidth is not enough.
Weird thing: when i browse the Web through AS (via bluetooth serial connection) i have a 220-260Kbps throughput, with PAN i can only reach 120Kbps!!! Maybe Bluesoleil stack is not so good or maybe PAN connections have a way greater overhead!!!
Anyway, i've just bought a new MDA Vario (Qtek 9100) WiFi enabled PPC so i hope i'll be able to use sjphone in a decent way.
Thanks for your help,
Bye,
Isidoro Russo