Is it possible to make a wlan via a bluetooth dongle?
The type of my dongle is ES-388.
Does anybody has experience with this type= I only can use bluesolei and I just want to use the standar MS drivers but MS doesn´t see the dongle???
Generally Yes - although not technically WLAN.
And more specifically i havent tried it on my Wizard, but did have it working on my Ipaq.
What you need:
PC with network/internet conex
BT dongle
Decent BT stack for PC - i found a lovelly guid with a "version" of a Widcom (i think) stack and a lovelly guide, trouble is the files were removed off the site shortly after i read it for "breach of copyright".
Bridge BT network (PAN) and network (LAN) to make it work.
Fraid i cant share the files as i dont have any install files. but sure Google can help
The Bluetooth Stack on the HTC Wizard does not support Personal Area Network profile (PAN), so unless you manage to hack a different stack into the wizard, no, bluetooth networking will not work.
i think.
tsiros said:
The Bluetooth Stack on the HTC Wizard does not support Personal Area Network profile (PAN), so unless you manage to hack a different stack into the wizard, no, bluetooth networking will not work.
i think.
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no PAN :-o wtf is the BT stack there for? i cant see many things it CAN do really :'(
i was about to continue to bash the qtek for not having PAN, when a thought came to my mind...
IF YOU HAVE CONNECTED THE QTEK WITH CABLE AND SYNCED WITH ACTIVESYNC THE QTEK HAS NETWORK.
IF YOU CONNECT THE QTEK TO ACTIVESYNC WITH BLUETOOTH, IT HAS NETWORK, TOO!!!
I AM A D U M B A S S!!!!!
tsiros said:
i was about to continue to bash the qtek for not having PAN, when a thought came to my mind...
IF YOU HAVE CONNECTED THE QTEK WITH CABLE AND SYNCED WITH ACTIVESYNC THE QTEK HAS NETWORK.
IF YOU CONNECT THE QTEK TO ACTIVESYNC WITH BLUETOOTH, IT HAS NETWORK, TOO!!!
I AM A D U M B A S S!!!!!
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I know it's true. But I can't install my bluetooth dongle (ES-388) with the original xp drivers. So I only can use Bluesoleil and this does not work with activesync.
Bluesoleil does work with activesync - at least the version I have does with the BT dongle I have.
tsiros said:
IF YOU CONNECT THE QTEK TO ACTIVESYNC WITH BLUETOOTH, IT HAS NETWORK, TOO!!!
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mine doesn't show any network when connected via BT... :shock:
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my xda 9s connected to async and internet via desktop 0ver BT. Can i browse the desktop pc shared drives over th BT link as well?
Thanks
icarusbop said:
Can i browse the desktop pc shared drives over th BT link as well?
Thanks
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This profile is not yet supported by Microsoft bluetooth stack which is used by XDA.
With a WidCom stack it is possible. Which means that you've to install a second bluetooth stack.
Regards,
Mark
Is it possible to install a WIDCOMM BT stack on the XDAII? I have ROM version 1.66WWE
Angelo
markutah said:
icarusbop said:
Can i browse the desktop pc shared drives over th BT link as well?
Thanks
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This profile is not yet supported by Microsoft bluetooth stack which is used by XDA.
With a WidCom stack it is possible. Which means that you've to install a second bluetooth stack.
Regards,
Mark
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@g3lo
Yes my current ROM is 1.60.00WWE and it works without a problem.
Regards,
Mark
how many other profiles does WidCom support which ms stack dont ?
@Rudegar
Haven't tested because I use it for just network/internet access over bluetooth.
But you can judge it your self. See the 3 screen dumps.
Regards,
Mark
Sorry man,but the connecting to the local Network via BT doesn't work for me ..
So,if someone succesfully did it...let me know.
@unapproachable2kx
Mine works ok!
Does your bluetooth dongle on your PC support network connection?
If yes then enable it.
Pair your devices. On your XDA run de Bluetooth wizard and see if it recognizes the network access service as can be seen on the last picture on this page.
If yes then tap on it and finish.
Connect with the created shortcut to your network.
Hello markutah,
Can you tell me which version of the WIDCOMM stack you have. I already have WIDCOMM version 1.3.1.46 which i downloaded for my iPAQ 3870 running PPC2002. So if its not the same I could download the version that you have.
Thanks
WidCom Version
@g3lo
It says: Bluetooth for Windows CE (BTW-CE)
Version 1.4.1 Build 58
Mark
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4429&highlight=bluetoothgps+zip+widcom
is this the bluetooth stack you are using ?
and you mention you cant use both stacks at the same time
how does one go about disabling the ms stack then ?
ok. thanks. this is a newer version.
Angelo
Rudegar said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4429&highlight=bluetoothgps+zip+widcom
is this the bluetooth stack you are using ?
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Yes, that's the one!
Rudegar said:
and you mention you cant use both stacks at the same time
how does one go about disabling the ms stack then ?
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What I mean is that it's not possible to enable both MS BT and WidCom BT at the same time. If MS BT is disabled then one is able to enable the WidCom BT and if WidCom BT is disabled then one is able to enable MS BT.
Mark
so it give me 2 icons ?
and disabling it is just disabling it as in having the icon overcross'd
not some process killing regediting actions ?
Rudegar said:
so it give me 2 icons ?
and disabling it is just disabling it as in having the icon overcross'd
not some process killing regediting actions ?
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Yes that's wright. See the picture!
Mark
thanks i'll try and install and mess a bit with it then
because therminal services would when i login'd to my pc logout the user and disable activesync, breaking the connection which would exit therminal services if i can connect using the other stack and not use activesync with therminal services it would be good
i installed the widcomm stack and i get minor problems. when i put in a name for the bluetooth device and reset it, it comes back to the original name which is Pocket_PC.
I uninstalled it last night. Any workaround for this?
only ping works...
Hello:
I'm trying to set up a
PAN from my XDA to XP-PC over BT
Installed widcomm on xda andXP-PC
I have set the ip address on the BT network connection on the xp machine.
I can connect the PAN from the XP machine to the XDA (the other way (XDA to PC) will not work, the Widcomm stack claims the service is not available on the XP-PC; any ideas why)
I can ping from the pc to the xda and vice versa, but cannot do anything else with the connection. (no netowrk drives or internet connection)
Any ideas why?
also: my home network is on a workgroup - where can I set the workgroup name on the XDA?
thanks icarusbop
@g3lo
Delete the pairing after the change of name and pair again and this problem should be solved
Mark
Re: only ping works...
@icarusbop
-possibility 1:
Maybe your BT dongle (on the PC) doesn't support the PAN. If it does then try getting a newer version of the driver at the manufacturers site.
-Possibility 2:
On the PC side you've to enable certain services. Did you enable the network service?
Mark
hello guys... i'm just confusing
i'm try to connect my xda via bt as a modem ( i use sony erricson phone ) and make the connection as the dial up its working, but not work at xda II ,
i already make the pairing as the dial up cause i always going somewhere with my laptop and xda and connect to the internet via gprs, also i tried at the wi modem of xda through bt connection ...not work....anybody have suggestions..... thanks a lot
The XDA is currently not supporting the modem profile. You can use other device as modem but the XDA it self cannot be used as such via bluetooth.
Regards,
Mark
Hi,
In the following document you can find the answer. (last question)
This is for the qtek 2020 or XDAII with Win XP
Cheers
Somehow I managed to make a connection (pair the evices) but when it comes to establishing what kind of services can happen between the two devices, nothing happens. In the end, I have a connection, the devices show as paired but I can't move files or connect one to the other in any possible way. Any ideas anyone?
Runing ROM 1.66.00WWE
Radio 1.10.00
Protocol 1337.18
Ext ROM 1.66.131
on notebook running
Windos XPhome
Sony USB BT adapter
@MCEITLIN
To what device have you connected?
mark
I paired a vaio V505 tunning XP and my I-mate
Cheers
device
markutah said:
@MCEITLIN
To what device have you connected?
mark
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i'm using the xda 2 and laptop ibm x 31 with bluetooth install from ibm, u got the answer
Re: device
@MCEITLIN and @benmuliono
If your devices are paired then you can active syn over BT to sync your device and the pass-through to connect to the internet.
Indeed you can't browse the network because the network profile is not supported by the Bluetooth stack used in the XDA.
To be able to browse the network you've to use the WidCom Bluetooth stack and a BT dongle on you PC/Notebook/Laptop whatever which supports the network profile or PAN.
The WidCom bluetooth stack can be found on this forum
Mark
Hi there,
I have an Qtek 2020 and I've installed WM2005.
ROM version 1.60a.00WWE
Radio Version: 1.14.00
Protocol version: 1337.24
I want to use newtwork access service but I cant.
when I want to setup this service in My Bluetooth places. it sais no Device found. and when I find manually it sais that your device has not network access profile.
I tried to install WIDCOMM BTW-CE but it didnt installed. it sais that no bluetooth radio found!!
I really need network access. Please help me!!!!!
if you can sync with activesync using bluetooth then you can connect
not sure if 2005 BT stack support the bluetooth PAN profile
and not sure if there are any widcomm out for 2005 yet
I had this problem also before I install WM2005 with the same error.
I thaught maybe I should upgrade my radio versio !!!!
the radiostack is only related to GSM not bluetooth
these are guides as to how you activesync with bluetooth
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?ContentId=3163
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=2417
Most of the time.. its more acurate when you connect from PC to PPC not PPC to PC.
I think my English is very bad
I can connect to ActiveSync without any problems.
My problem is to use Network Access service.
I have no problem with other services sych as Audio Gateway, Headset, Ativesync, Serial port and...
when you are connected with activesync then you have network access!
if you minimize activesync while it's connected then you can just open IE or messenger or what ever
that is unless you disabled it in activesycn on the pc or the firewall on the pc block it
or if you have set it to use your isp network insted of your my network in connections on the pocketpc
No... you didn't understand me.
I want have an IP address for my pocket PC as you connect with WiFi.
And explore the shared folder of the network PCs with Resco File Explorer.
Wee this picture.
When I connect with USB my pocket PC get and IP address and I can ping it.
I want to do this also when I connect via bluetooth.[/img]
oh dident know that activesync using bluetooth did not assign an ip to the xda2
well then there are 2 options i guess
1 find a widcomm or another bluetooth stack that works on 2005 which support the PAN profile (pan is network over bluetooth as in not using activesync)
2 downgrade to 2003SE or 2003 and get the widcomm stack which works for it and support PAN
I've installed the WIDCOMM. but the previouse BLutoth stack did't remove. and now I have too icons of bluetooth!!!
but widcomm did't work properly and it sais that: "The Bluetooth radio failed to turn ON due ro insuffivent driver menory available. [!!!] you must perform a normal reset before you can turn ON the Bluetooth Radio.
eAfzali said:
I've installed the WIDCOMM. but the previouse BLutoth stack did't remove. and now I have too icons of bluetooth!!!
but widcomm did't work properly and it sais that: "The Bluetooth radio failed to turn ON due ro insuffivent driver menory available. [!!!] you must perform a normal reset before you can turn ON the Bluetooth Radio.
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Try to use PocketLanCe: www.pocketlance.com
I have the same problem... htc p4350, wm5 aku3/3.5 the wm device doesn't see the Network Access bluetooth service which the PC is running. (pocket pc doesn't seem to support Bluetooth PAN correctly). This is crap. In the year 2007, simple things like bluetooth pan shouldn't go unimplemented in an operating system built by the richest software company in the world. on a device i paid $500 for. i could implement this stuff myself in less than a week if the code weren't closed source. gosh i hate hate HATE our world.
also the pocketlance website is password protected..
Hey guys,
I got it to work once. But I have no idea how to make my iMate Jam connect to my PC's bluetooth connection using the Wireless Modem application on my Jam. Eveytime I fiddle around with that software it ends up screwing with my radio signal and I lose the signal. Then I have to reboot the phone to make it work again. Does anyone have any instruction on how to work this program? This seems to be so much harder than my P900 which I just used the Dial-up Bluetooth Modem and had it dial *99#. By the way I'm using the standard Windows XP Bluetooth stack with my USB Bluetooth adapter. Please help.
i've the same problem... anyone as a solution?
bt modem tip
On my sx66, i noticed i was having a problem with my modem connection, I noticed it wouldnt let me connect if I had already initiated a gprs session, ie. syncronizing with my excahnge server or pop mail accounts or web browsing on the pda. If i soft booted then connected the dial up connection it worked fine. In some cases i have heard some peoples PC would drop the DUN setting after every sesssion with the PC's BT settings.
rovert said:
Hey guys,
I got it to work once. But I have no idea how to make my iMate Jam connect to my PC's bluetooth connection using the Wireless Modem application on my Jam. Eveytime I fiddle around with that software it ends up screwing with my radio signal and I lose the signal. Then I have to reboot the phone to make it work again. Does anyone have any instruction on how to work this program? This seems to be so much harder than my P900 which I just used the Dial-up Bluetooth Modem and had it dial *99#. By the way I'm using the standard Windows XP Bluetooth stack with my USB Bluetooth adapter. Please help.
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This is why it's worth following my blog - I've published a tutorial of this over a month ago. Please read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=510&more=1
Forget the wireless modem application, it's not necessary for this for me.
Go to your PC's bluetooth and open it up. Is et Widcomm? Pair the phone with the PC.
ok, on the PC click on the paired phone and click search for available services. SSA should come up.
Set up a dial up connection with phone no *99# any username, password for your provider and it should connect. PLEASE' Note, you must be DISCONNECTED from GPRS on the phone first to make a connection from your PC.
You may also have to put in an APN on the bluetooth modem in Windows XP, Control Panel, phones and Modem options, as supplied by your provider. First let us know if you get as for as finding SSA?
Surgy, ignore last post, I just saw yin said you are using MS Bluetooth stack.
admisi said:
Surgy, ignore last post, I just saw yin said you are using MS Bluetooth stack.
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You can also use the DUN from the MS BT stack too.
Your tutorial only covers the newer devices with WM5. I'm using an older i-Mate Jam/Magician and when I do a discovery with my Bluetooth adapter on my PC I only see OBEX File Transfer, Serial Port, and Voice Gateway. I still can't figure out a way to do it wirelessly. I have figured out how to do it via USB cable and the Wireless Modem program on the Pocket PC but it's only a 28.8 connection whereas usually I connect at 56K with my Sony Ericsson P900. Strange stuff. Well I'll be upgrading to a Jamin shortly so I hope this will resolve my problem.
rovert said:
Your tutorial only covers the newer devices with WM5. I'm using an older i-Mate Jam/Magician and when I do a discovery with my Bluetooth adapter on my PC I only see OBEX File Transfer, Serial Port, and Voice Gateway. I still can't figure out a way to do it wirelessly. I have figured out how to do it via USB cable and the Wireless Modem program on the Pocket PC but it's only a 28.8 connection whereas usually I connect at 56K with my Sony Ericsson P900. Strange stuff. Well I'll be upgrading to a Jamin shortly so I hope this will resolve my problem.
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OIC. Strange. Some (for example, Verizon) PPC PE devices are crippled in that they can't be used as BT modems.
If you can't see the DUN or SSA or Dial Up. it sounds like your Bluetooth has been modified on the imate jam/mini.
Did you install either the Blue Soleil Stack or the new BLUETOOTH STOCK from this forum?.. If so, then this is the problem. Standard default Bluetooth Stack should show it in discovery.
What make is your bluetooth dongle?
admisi said:
If you can't see the DUN or SSA or Dial Up. it sounds like your Bluetooth has been modified on the imate jam/mini.
Did you install either the Blue Soleil Stack or the new BLUETOOTH STOCK from this forum?.. If so, then this is the problem. Standard default Bluetooth Stack should show it in discovery.
What make is your bluetooth dongle?
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I did upgrade it to the new bluetooth stack. I guess it did more harm than good. Is there anyway to undo it or must I hard reset and install everything all over again? I have a Logitech Dinovo Bluetooth Keyboard/Mouse combo.
Hi guys,
Im trying to setup PAN with my Jam with the bluesoleil stack and it just isnt working... whenver i browse my PC it says that no services are available... any thoughts on how to get the JAM to recognize the PAN service on my PC?
ImmortalU said:
Hi guys,
Im trying to setup PAN with my Jam with the bluesoleil stack and it just isnt working... whenver i browse my PC it says that no services are available... any thoughts on how to get the JAM to recognize the PAN service on my PC?
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Is dectection set on on ur computer, and does your bleutooth stack support the PAN profile?
me too, i've placed a BT PAN enabling topic 3 times. geuss you guys haven't noticed
windows installs the PAN service and i have the option/canconnect to my device via PAN from windows, but my device cannot detect the PAN or any service on my PC.
what kind of device you have, i remember i had the option too when i installed widcomm BT stack. but it crashed my device later. i have a htc wizard. PAN does work on wm5 but i don't have it in my rom
As its a Magician forums i thought it would be obvious?
I got an MDA compact with the Qtek WWE 1.12 ROM.
Using the Bluesoleil stack with the Cambridge Sillicon stack aswell.
My bluetooth adapter on my PC is generic, i actually have no idea what it is!
thanas said:
PAN does work on wm5
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How ?! I have WM5 on my mda compact 2.