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Cingular Release

cingular released the 8525 today take a look
http://www.cingular.com/cell-phone-...rue&q_phoneName=Cingular+8525&q_sku=sku310005
looks like the hermes to me in a cingular blanket... will be purchasing mine this week

YES we all know it .. and NO .. it's not .. there are some differences .. might be important for some folks ..

Omg, I Can Absolutely Not Wait For This Phone!!

Does anyone kown if they have 3G coverage in the Tampa Bay, FL area yet?

omanthat looks awesome..
i ****ing want it now...
i think im not eligible to upgrade handset till february.. and even then i dont think it would be that cheap

Bertil said:
Does anyone kown if they have 3G coverage in the Tampa Bay, FL area yet?
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Yes they do it was rolled out mid to end of september.

I got mine yesterday. I moved from a Sprint 6700 to the Cingular 8525. Loving it so far - I've been reading this forum for several months so I pretty much knew what to expect.

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Later, Lew

i just ordered mine today from cingular!!! Tried on thursday and they said it wasnt in their ordering system yet, so i called today (friday morning) and they said it was in there but not available to ship yet, so i called back later on tonight and she was able to place an order for me!! and i get free expedited shipping, i should have mine on monday!!!

Here's a question for you:
I purchased a TyTN last week rather than wait for the 8525 for a couple of reasons. First, I travel world wide and my company has SIM's in the major locations that are country specific, much cheaper and bill back directly to the company. Having a virgin, unlocked TyTN makes this a breeze. Second, I HATE being locked into the "upgrades" that Cingular always puts on their phones (like disabling DUN on the Treo 650....) so I usually always unlock the phones and flash them back to a RoW image.
With all that being said would I gain ANYTHING by flashing my phone with THIS officially released Cingular image? Would you do it?
The reasons I'm considering it are 2 fold:
1. Perhaps the Radio ROM is better
2. It would provide the default Cingular GPRS/UMTS settings so I don't have to re-input them every time I cold boot the phone. (I'm sure there's a way to save these either through a registry hack or a file hack but I haven't found it yet).
Again, What would you do in my situation
BTW, the phone ROCKS. Cingular has UMTS in my market (Central Florida) and aside from a UMTS glitch in the North Orlando switches earlier this week that drops call (they say it's fixed) the performance with internet and Goodlink have been outstanding.

mjw930 said:
Here's a question for you:
I purchased a TyTN last week rather than wait for the 8525 for a couple of reasons. First, I travel world wide and my company has SIM's in the major locations that are country specific, much cheaper and bill back directly to the company. Having a virgin, unlocked TyTN makes this a breeze. Second, I HATE being locked into the "upgrades" that Cingular always puts on their phones (like disabling DUN on the Treo 650....) so I usually always unlock the phones and flash them back to a RoW image.
With all that being said would I gain ANYTHING by flashing my phone with THIS officially released Cingular image? Would you do it?
The reasons I'm considering it are 2 fold:
1. Perhaps the Radio ROM is better
2. It would provide the default Cingular GPRS/UMTS settings so I don't have to re-input them every time I cold boot the phone. (I'm sure there's a way to save these either through a registry hack or a file hack but I haven't found it yet).
Again, What would you do in my situation
BTW, the phone ROCKS. Cingular has UMTS in my market (Central Florida) and aside from a UMTS glitch in the North Orlando switches earlier this week that drops call (they say it's fixed) the performance with internet and Goodlink have been outstanding.
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Yeah Tom the engineer said they are in the optimization phase right now so they will be occasionally taking down sites and fixing. The one in Orlando had a problem with the T1 line. I will be posting more updates as i talk with him about the CFL area.

Should I buy X7500 or X7501 for U.S. AT&T?

I'm contemplating buying the Advantage, but I'm torn between the X7500 and the X7501. On one hand, the X7500 has the front camera, at least giving me the possibility and option of using it for video calls and IM. On the other hand, the X7501 is ready right now with WM6. I know the 7500 runs about $200 more, but I really like the idea of having the "fully loaded" model that has every option on it.
I am in the U.S. and will be using this on AT&T. Is the X7500 setup specifically for Europe and would I run into any snags? I really wouldn't mind waiting for the official WM6, as long as I know it is definitely coming sometime in the next 90 days and will be a free upgrade.
Also, does the 7500 version come with TomTom, and if so, will U.S. maps work with it?
If anyone can give me some advice and the pros/cons, it would be much appreciated, as I will probably be making my purchase in the next few days. Thanks in advance!

I think you have almost all the pros and cons covered.
The 7500 is not set up for the U.S. but it was easy for me to set up manually.
Yes, TomTom comes with the 7500 ROM and my L.A. map worked with it.
Also keep in mind that (following the instructions on these forums) you can install a 7501 ROM on a 7500 (as I did), in which case you have, in addition to WM6 (which you also can get with a 7500 ROM), the automatic network setup and Telenav instead of TomTom.
To me, unless the front facing camera is a big deal to you, I'm not sure I'd pay much of a premium for a 7500. When I bought, the 7501 was not yet available, and I didn't want to wait!
Hope this helps.

I'm lost with all the 3G standards...
Will the x7501 work with AT&T's new 3g network (in the few places where it is available)?

I use the Dopod U1000. Got it in April and paid the premium import price, just to be one of the first to have one here in the US. It definitely works well on the Cingular (Now AT&T) 3G. It came with WM5 which easily flashed to WM6 on July 27th. It seemed like an eternity waiting for the official ROM, but with the high end device, I did not like the risk of making it a 'brick'. The front facing camera probably won't be of much use IMHO here in the states, but you can turn it on in camera mode and take a picture of yourself??? As for GPS, the Dopod did not come with any software. I used Ostia from Pharos as I have been playing with the PDA GPS for several years now. With MSLive and google maps available on the HSDPA, unless you really need turn by turn directions, I think the GPS is nice to have but not really necessary. I put a NAV unit in the car for that & use BT for the phone through it.

The X7501 works quite well with AT&T 3G (really 3.5G HSDPA). That's the carrier I use mine with mostly since I like my high speed data .

8525 or 8925

I just bought an 8525 and realised I could have gotten the 8925 for less instead. Should I keep the 8525 or trade it within the 30 day window for the 8925?

If you decide you don't want to do it. Do it anyway and I will trade you my 8525 for the 8925

Trade it in. Get the 8925. Its better and cheaper. What more convincing do you need.

I just faced this same decision, and decided to stay with the 8525. Here's why:
1. The 8525 is a known device - lots of fixes for the things that don't work. The 8925 is unknown, and there have been lots of complaints without a lot of solutions to follow them up.
2. The 8925 only has the offical WM6 ROM - for the 8525 I can get several different WM6 ROMs to suit what I need.
3. I don't see the built in GPS as a big win. The extra memory would definitely be nice, but not worth the frustration considering #1.
In the end, it came down to just being happy with the unit I have - it does everything I need, and it does it well.
Brian.

Get the 8925!

Titan vs. Herald

Okay, so I had the Apache since it first came out, then it fell off my motorcycle last weekend, so I got a new phone (actually 2 new phones). I got the Herald (T-Mobile Wing), and the Titan (Verizon XV6800). I decided to test T-Mobiles phone with a 30 trial contract (I'm a loyal Verizon customer for 8 years), and get the Titan. Both of these phones are brand new (purchase last 2 days).
I'm pretty much going over all the same things I did when I had the Apache (ROM upgrades, skins, apps, etc...). I noticed the ROM on the Herald is different.
The Herald has ROM version 4.10.531.3 WWE.
The Titan has ROM version 2.09.605.8.
Herald has Radio version 02.83.90
Titan has Radion version 1.30.60
The Herald came with the Voice Command (which is nice), and the HTC Task Manager. The Titan seems to run a lot faster out of the box compared to the Herald, but this is probably due to the fact that T-Mobile installed so much crap on their phone.
Also, I noticed the keypad types much faster on the Herald as opposed to the Titan. I had to disable the sounds to get it to type as fast (fix?).
Anyways, I was wondering if there is any way to extract .cab files from one phone to another. Also if anyone has any questions about the phones, feel free to ask.

I understand the wing to have vastly inferior specifications to the mogul. I looked it up when my gf wanted a blackberry. I was trying to talk her into a wm device but I gave up when I found out that the only similar thing tmobile has to the mogul is the wing. The tmobile rep said that its successor is coming out later this year. I assume that it will be the kaiser or something similar. I think they are calling their new wm phones the shadows or something like that. (the tmobile rep was not to bright so I take what he says with a grain of salt. He said that it will be very much like the wing,with the sliding keyboard and all. I suggested it might be the kaiser,and he swore up and down it could not be,becuase they were calling it something like shadow II.)
In any event, the mogul has a much faster cpu than the wing. This comes with overheating however when you connect to the internet over cellular and use the wifi at the same time. I keep sending it back and complaining. Either they will fix it in a new revision,or they will have to upgrade me. I am not to happy as I paid a lot of money for something that does not work well,but there is no other phone that meets my needs for now.

Lost my Ameo!!

Hi Guys, well god only knows how but I have lost my Ameo 2 weeks back... thankfully I have the T-mobile insurance. However there are no Ameos about and so I now have a TytnII which is surprisingly good... although I miss the wonderful VGA screen .
Anyway I got to thining about my lost baby. Now T-Mobile have blocked it, and its reported as lost so I guess if anyone switches it on they will get barred from UK Networks (assuming they are still in the UK of course!) and hopeully it can be tracked by cell? What I was thinking though is that even when it's blocked are the buggers who now have it able to use it as a brilliant GPS unit still? I had TomTom and iGo 8 on it!!! Can it be tracked and caught that way maybe? It really peeves me to think that someone could use it as a GPS and get it for free instead of handing it in!!
Anyways hopefully somone will tell me the GPS wont work if it blocked, or that it will be tracked and the buggers caught!! Here's hoping... oh and if they go abroad will it still be blocked? Did UK set up international blocking or not? As I hear a lot of stolen phones end up in Asia and the Far East now!

The simplest way to catch the burglar is to wait the IMEI appearance on the network, tracing the phone position using the network info AND the SIM card subscriber's data!

Agreed - but im thinkin if its blocked and they decide its a nice gps now, they can stick it in flight mode and use it like that?

Sorry but the GPS will definately still work, as it is completely unconnected from the phone, however it wont work aswell because the software "Quick GPS" requires an active data connection to allow a quick lock ! so now they will have to wait a while everytime for the GPS to lock !
If you had installed the Free WIMP (where is my phone) software, you would be able to track your phone yourself !
T-mobile wont track by cell as they are not a law enforcement agency, and the police don't care it's just another lost mobile to them !

you can still text. i used to have a blocked ameo, i didnt steal it myself, long story.. but anyway, it could still send and recieve texts and connect to the 3g/hsdpa networks. because as far as i know, only calls check your imei
rory

He's correct: you can still use GPRS/3G/HSDPA on a blocked handset. Blocking only prevents GSM functions such as texting and phone calls.
If someone has a data only SIM card (or perhaps buys one of the Hutchinson 3G pay as you go SIMs) then they will happily be able to use your Ameo as a portable web/GPS unit, and unfortunately there is no way that anyone will be caught for this, despite what the Network or the police might tell you.
On the subject, a TyTn 2 seems like a big monetary step-down from an Ameo, could they not order you one in?

Bugger! Someones got a nice cheap web tablet then!!
I had to have a phone quick or I'd lose work so I had little choice.. plus I was due an upgrade anyway on my tarrif in 3 weeks time so I was thinkin of upgrading to the new 16GB version - but they have no idea when it will arrive!! Ooh i noticed Orange do the Shift now - but I just bought an eeePC so dont really need that now... hmmm.. what to do?

I doubt T-Mobile will release the 16gb model as the AMEO didn't shift too well and I think their bods will deem its updates insufficient to create enough market appeal.
The Shift is a shot in the dark and is VERY expensive considering that you'll be paying not much less than the SIM-FREE price for an 18 month contract AND you'll probably need a second phone most of the time. Also, owing to its HSDPA and integrated windows the likelihood of you going over your 3gb allowance and being charged by the megabyte is very high. At least on T-Mobile you'll only get a letter after 3 months of abusing - in fact I've been over my Web N Walk Plus allowance pretty much every month this year and I've not even received a telling-off letter!
I would say that waiting for the Touch Diamond, selling it and buying an x7510 which would mean about a 250 pound supplement, would be the best idea OR send your Vario 3 back and they'll offer you a reduced-rate contract instead of a handset then simply buy a Shift or an x7510 by your own means...

Sad to say, but I'm pretty sure whoever got your lost Ameo is reading this now. :C
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Yea they probably are!
I have to say I am getting quite attached to the Vario3 apart from the screen - not sure what to do now I have the eeePC as would I use the Ameo much? Blimey what to do!

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Yea they probably are!
I have to say I am getting quite attached to the Vario3 apart from the screen - not sure what to do now I have the eeePC as would I use the Ameo much? Blimey what to do!
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If you've got an EEE stick with that and the Vario 3 and use the Vario for your internet connection. It'll actually be better than the Shift connection-wise as (as far as I'm aware) the Shift doesn't support HSUPA, only HSDPA.
There's an extended life battery for the EEE which I'm looking to get as it should extend its life to over five hours: the Shift, with its naff battery life is nothing compared to a light, solid EEE combined with a Vario 3. Sounds like you might be best to stick with what you've got.
Currently I'm balancing an EEE, an HTC Universal an a Nokia N95. It's not exactly convergence but holistically I've got the best of all worlds!

There's a bit of an argument going on at the mo as I am one of the unlucky eee900 owners who have the 4400mAh battery! Over at the eeeuser.com forums we are trying to get evidence of crap batteries so I cant talk to Taiwan again on tuesday/wednesday...
But i think you might be right - I might stick with the vario and the eee for the time being.

WOW I cant even imagine how you feel I have also installed WIMP and it works very well for lost or stolen phones. You may want to think about it for your future WM6 phones...TJ

TrekkerJmm said:
WOW I cant even imagine how you feel I have also installed WIMP and it works very well for lost or stolen phones. You may want to think about it for your future WM6 phones...TJ
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An even better option is spb sprite terminator. It lets you lock the phone, change password, erase your sensitive files, find out who his friends are (hopefully you can get to him via his friend), among some useful features.