Cingular 8525 vs. HTC TyTn - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Can't decide whether to pull the trigger on the TyTn ($650) or wait for the Cingular 8525 (on Cingular now with an 8125).
If I get a TyTn is it completely unlocked? SIM and device code?
I know the TyTn has the front camera, 8525 won't.
I don't really NEED SIM unlock, but it helps resale value.
Don't need or want the BS code that Cingular loads on their devices..
Can't decide, any other driving factors?
Thanks,
Mike

other than simple aesthetics, you've got it...
Also note that if you buy the 8525, if you want the rebates, you'll need to sign up for the $39.99 PDAConnect plan...
If you're planning on using a cheaper data plan, in the long run, you might be better off forsaking the rebates and buying the TyTN outright...

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i am in heaven

I am in heaven as O2 have provided me with my unlock code for the new XDA 2 within 48 hours and it works fine with my t-mobile sim card (including GPRS). The O2 active screen allows me to access these pages via my t-mobile gprs connection (which i am only paying £10 for 100MB per month)
That#s very interesting... O2 told me that I could unlock my phone for £195 & it would take two weeks to get the code. so who at o2 did you talk to ??? I thinks I need to call 'em back
just spoke to customer services on sat..they charged me standard unlocking fee of £15 ..asked me imei number over phone ..they said it could take 4 weeks..but received call this afternoon with the code..60 seconds later i had a unlocked xda 2..no hassles at all..best thing is i only took out an o2 contract three months ago..free t610 on £15 line rental...and they allowed me to upgrade to the xda2 last week for £350--only extending my contract by three months...wow i am impressed...so i am now using my voice calls using my vodaphone tariff (1000 min for £37a month and my data using t-mobile 100mb for £10 at the same time)
Did you have to pay off your line rental?
Chaps I'm speaking to today won't have it without doing that
& I don't even get a fecking 02 signal where I live!
Can you please clarify something, you pay £10 a month for 100mb of gprs data on T-Mobile. How is this possible as I pay around £25 for 20mb through T-Mobile. If your right I will certainly be calling T-Mobile for a refund.
Landofnod
i doubt tmobile have to have the same prices all over the world as
it have to compeat with companys which different prices in different
countrys
i did not have to pay a penny apart from the £10...i live in London and T-mobile for a few days gave a special promotional gprs tariff - £10 for 100Mb..they then stopped offering it and instead are now offering a special email tariff (100MB for £10 until end of Dec 2003).
The person who dealt with my unlocking request dealt with it in the same way as unlocking any other handset...
Sanjive...if that is the case i must have one of the only o2 xda 2 unlocked...cool..i would sell it on ebay but i am enjoying it too much :lol:
Phonefreak
Just to clarify
Did you have to pay your line-rental in full before they unlocked your phone?
They WILL unlock my phone (anyone's) but they insist on my (anyone) paying up the contract at the same time. I can do this but would prefer to just continue to pay monthly.
not at all..i am only on a £15 tariff...
I PAY $10.00 (U.S.A.) FOR UNLIMITED GPRS....ADD ON TO VOICE SERVICE
Phonefreak, from what you say, does that mean everytime you wish to 'surf' you will have to go through the arduous task of swapping SIM cards and once you're finished surfing, swap again back to your voda number? Isn't that a massive pain?
I can't see any reason to unlock my xdaii as yet... wonder if we can unlock it for free... :wink:
use my voda sim in the xda for voice (1000min allowance) and use a bluetooth connection to my t68i (with my tmobile sim) for data..no need to swap sim
:shock:
I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE DAT STILL HADA T68i
phonefreak said:
use my voda sim in the xda for voice (1000min allowance) and use a bluetooth connection to my t68i (with my tmobile sim) for data..no need to swap sim
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:shock:
I went for the xda ii so that I can get out of the PDA+mobile combo... my P800 went to someway to resolve this but unfortunately screen/size/software forced me to abandon it in favour of the xda ii.
Do you not find it cumbersome (granted t68i is small and I'm an owner too! ) to carry two devices?
I am currently looking at the most cost-effective mobile solution as at the moment, my PAYG SIM gives best gprs in terms of cost while my pay monthly gives better voice-call deal. You looked at those SIM card copiers that allows one SIM to hold multiple SIM/numbers? Or a device that allows you to cut :shock: your current SIM to just the SIM chip itself so it fits into a dual-SIM holder the size of one standard SIM hence allowing you to fit two SIMs into the one SIM slot of a mobile. Quite neat.
i wish that one carrier offered me the best data and voice tariff but since i have a good voice tarriff on voda (1000 min for £37) and a good gprs package on t-mobile (100mb for £10) i can live with a xda2 and a t68i..use to carry two phones and a ipaq 5550..so have still reduced one item

MDA Pro For Sale

Ladies and Gents,
I have an T- Mobile MDA Pro for sale, brand new, boxed. As i already have an EXEC, this phone is up for sale.
Please PM me if you are interested
It is listed on ebay, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9126315634&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MESE:IT&rd=1
I am willing to end the auction early for 375pounds + 11.99 Shipping.
Cheers,
You really should add the fact that whoever buys it will need to have a t-mobile sim to use it since it can't be unlocked at present.
thanks for that shuflie!
can they not be unlocked at all? i'm so used to popping different sim's in my exec.
cheers,
Adam
They can, but it costs 100 euros with t-mobile
unlocking the mda pro
after you have paid the 1st months invoice, you can ask for the unlock code from T-Mobile UK - if you got it from them. Cost me 20gbp ISTR
Did they let you do that without paying off the rest of your contract? Very nice of whoever it was that gave you the unlock code but I've seen stories on here of others that have tried but couldn't get the unlock without canceling their contract and paying off the remainder of it.
adamchahl: If you can do this without having to pay of your contract it would probably increase the value of your MDA pro to be able to say it was unlocked in your auction.
Yeah, guess its worth a try, i will ring t-mobile tommorrow.
Will let you know how i get on.
Thanks,
nope, did not have to pay for the rest of the contract.
Contact T-Mobile customer services. Explain that you want to transfer your numbers from your old (voda/orange) sim to your shiny new mda pro. They will add the cost of the handling fee to your next bill. You tell them your imei number. Unlock code arrived a week later.
Note you get a 10 digit number, prefixed by two zeros and then eight numbers. Just enter the eight numbers, leaving out the first two zeros.
Worked a treat. ABSOLUTELY ZERO HASSLE.
T-Mobile UK 18 month contract phone ... still got my contract, 100 minutes a month and 40Mb a month data. Very happy with the service.
T-Mobile quoted my £15 to unlock the MDA Pro, however they mentioned that it can take up to 28 days for the code to come from HTC.
I will be more than willing to supply this unlock code for free to any purchesor when it arrives, so the phone will be unlocked.
I realise that there's a huge element of trust with doing things that way, so if it doesnt sell, i will just put it up for sale when the code comes through!
Cheers for your help!

Asking for guide on buying X01HT

Hello there.
I am planning to buy a phone X01HT from Softbank but can't decide which plan should I get. For all X01HT holders there, especially those who resides in Japan too, I'd like to ask some guide about getting the phone. For which plan can I save more in a long run. And also, is it possible to get a new plan even though I'm already a subscriber of Vodafone or do I only need to change plan?
Thanks...
At leats get the illimited internet package
9,800 Yens / month
Expensive, but you'll need it

HELP! MediaNet Unlimited and Cingular 8525

I am a bit worried about me using medianet on my cingular 8525. We have a family plan and 2 phones the other one is a sony ericsson. I ordered the sony ericsson so i could just sign up for the Medianet plan and after receiving the phones I immediately started using the cingular 8525. I was really encouraged of using wap.cingular/medianet because of reading that other people are getting away with it. I checked my online account this morning and it showed that the phone for my number is a cingular 8525. I called csr and informed her that i was using a sony ericsson(to cover up for the use of the 8525 and tethering) She said that it wasn't showing that in my account because the serial number of the 8525 is showing that its being used by my number. I was nervous that they knew what phone i was using that I might be caught but then i just asked her if it is not going to affect my account whatsoever just to end the call.
Did any of you have the same experience?
Should I stop my medianet plan(pda connect is expensive)?
What do you think the best thing to do is? what are my options?
thank you.
johnny5xp said:
I am a bit worried about me using medianet on my cingular 8525. We have a family plan and 2 phones the other one is a sony ericsson. I ordered the sony ericsson so i could just sign up for the Medianet plan and after receiving the phones I immediately started using the cingular 8525. I was really encouraged of using wap.cingular/medianet because of reading that other people are getting away with it. I checked my online account this morning and it showed that the phone for my number is a cingular 8525. I called csr and informed her that i was using a sony ericsson(to cover up for the use of the 8525 and tethering) She said that it wasn't showing that in my account because the serial number of the 8525 is showing that its being used by my number. I was nervous that they knew what phone i was using that I might be caught but then i just asked her if it is not going to affect my account whatsoever just to end the call.
Did any of you have the same experience?
Should I stop my medianet plan(pda connect is expensive)?
What do you think the best thing to do is? what are my options?
thank you.
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Calling in like that to ATT is what would raise a red flag...it show you are guilty about something. Personally I have been on MediaMax with an 8525 since January and this month I am over 1GB in data with a lot of tethering. They never say anything to me and I just upgraded a phone on one of my family talk lines so they obviously have seen my account.
Would it be helpful if I submit a different IMEI number?
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Would it be helpful if I submit a different IMEI number?
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My suggestion, if you are trying to "get away with something", then leave it alone. The more you pursue this and hassle AT&T, the more they will probably scrutinize your account. Wouldn't you think?
First of all, you are using Paying for Medianet.. and are USING medianet.. so AT&T can not say anything. You are using the service you PAY for. Regardless of device AT&T has no right to say anything to you. If they dont want PDA's accessing medianet then make them unable to access them. They just want more money and assume everyone is stupid. So don't even worry about it... you already pay for Medianet and you use WAP cingular settings, so they can not charge you any extra nor can they cancel your internet plan.
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Calling in like that to ATT is what would raise a red flag...it show you are guilty about something. Personally I have been on MediaMax with an 8525 since January and this month I am over 1GB in data with a lot of tethering. They never say anything to me and I just upgraded a phone on one of my family talk lines so they obviously have seen my account.
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He's right.. leave it alone and nothing should happen
Madcap180 said:
First of all, you are using Paying for Medianet.. and are USING medianet.. so AT&T can not say anything. You are using the service you PAY for. Regardless of device AT&T has no right to say anything to you. If they dont want PDA's accessing medianet then make them unable to access them. They just want more money and assume everyone is stupid. So don't even worry about it... you already pay for Medianet and you use WAP cingular settings, so they can not charge you any extra nor can they cancel your internet plan.
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I agree...and I know a lot of really stupid people at my work that pay the PDA plan price. We get the same service and I have a cheaper bill that is the only difference.
I tried to use my sim in a black berry and the phone worked but I couldn't get on the internet. I asked why and was told my account doesn't have a PDA data plan but I do have a media net bundle and with my 8525 can use the internet with unlimited access..
Is it true the PDA data plan is for phones like blackberry's and not WM5 phones?
I to only pay $19 a month for unlimited..
On AT&T's site, within the Help resources for 8525, they provide the steps to set up WAP on your device, and an alternative if you are unable to transmit emails. Based on this, one would assume they are aware MediaNet is being used this way.
I agree though, don't make a big deal out of it. The results may not be what you had in mind for, as is well known, no good deed goes unpunished.
AT&T actually did offer the Medianet plan for the 8525 for a BRIEF period of time. We were told that our PDA plan would also include text messaging, but it did not. When we discovered the error and asked what happened, they said that our plan didn't switch to include texting. I then said I want to switch to MediaNet which they did no problem.
On a separate note, my pop3 yahoo account doesn't work anymore. Not sure if it's my account settings or medianet - any ideas?
Interesting thread on MediaNet and tethering here.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1218314
Don't worry, i been using MediaNet for at least 6 months on my 8525. It was originially for w810i, and i brought the 8525 off of ebay. My account does show 8525 currently that im using. But im using MediaNet with no troubles at all. You paying for the services, so there nothin to be scared.
I had a sony ericson P800 and was using my new 8125 and it showed I was using my t68i that I had not used for months.
Here are the new rate Plans
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/popup/dataconnect-comp-table.jsp
I'm using the MediaNet about a year on a 8125, then X01HT (8525), everythikng great, last time I call they even upgrade my plan and give 200 text messages for free.
maximuz329 said:
I'm using the MediaNet about a year on a 8125, then X01HT (8525), everythikng great, last time I call they even upgrade my plan and give 200 text messages for free.
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My MediaNet and SMS are separate. With the textwhore teenage son of mine, we have the unlimited family SMS plan - covers all phones. Very much worth the $30/mo. for the 5 phones on my plan.

Deciding to get a Wing

I am strongly leaning on getting a T-Mobile Wing as opposed to a 8525, but I just have a few questions first.
1) You have to pay for 3G service correct? (I know that T-Mobile doesn't have 3G yet). I have heard of 3G sim cards. Is this like a PRE-PAID 3G service card, where I have fast internet access? Or is this JUST a regular sim card with the ability to have 3G service, with a monthly payment plan.
Is there such thing as a pre-paid 3G service card? (If so, I may be getting the 8525 instead). I mainly want to use wifi, but if I can get 3G via PRE-PAY/FREE then that would be good.
2) Is there a good strong wifi connection on the Wing? I heard the Wing has trouble connecting through wifi.
3) Why do people say there are troubles with the Wing running slowly? Is this because of the processor or because of the memory? But doesn't the Wing have the same amount of memory as the 8525?
Is there a way to decrease/eliminate the memory problems on the Wing?? I have heard of people installing certain roms to help with the memory problem.
4) The Wing has Push-to-talk right? So this means I will be notified when I get new emails/ messages in "real-time" correct?
5) Is the head jack a 2.5mm or is it embedded in the mini-USB??
These are some of my main questions. I am really contemplating on buying the Wing (or 8525). Could I get any quick advice as to what should I expect when I do buy it? Is there a preferred rom that I should install?
Should I get the Wing or 8525?? (On looks and feel DEFINITELY the Wing). I mainly want to use if for internet, Office suite, listening to music, and some games.
1. Not sure, someone smarter than me will have to answer that one.
2. I have never had any problems finding or connecting to a signal. Might just be the area I am in, but I have a good strong signal. Most of the time, I connect to the tmo gprs.
3. Out of the box, the wing tmo Rom is terrible. It has a horrible memory leak and runs very slowly. Multiple resets a day. If you look around the forums, there are a lot of different ROM's that can be flashed to your wing. These ROM's are cooked to speed up and make your wing more stable. There are a lot of good cooks now, and more up and coming. Also the ROM's get rid of all of the crap that tmo puts on the phone and adds some really cool apps.
4. By push to talk, I assume you mean voice command. Not sure about the tmo ROM, but there are a couple of different apps that you can install to get your voice command to work properly. Yes you are notified in real time about SMS/MMS, and email, if you set them up correctly.
5. mini-usb.
hey thanks for your response!
I guess I might as well go for the Wing (instead of 8525). I know the 8525 has the performance, but it doesn't have the looks, feel, spring-loaded keyboard, soft rubbery keys, and size.
If anyone else wants to comment I would greatly appreciate the input.
You can get the Wing for $100 w/ 1 year contract
Call T-Mobile Business Direct line at 866-464-8662
Tell them promo code "Windows Mobile"
Pick out your plan....features....
Comes with either free BT headset or car charger, no activation fee.
....if that helps you make the decision, thats how I went
b.mann said:
You can get the Wing for $100 w/ 1 year contract
Call T-Mobile Business Direct line at 866-464-8662
Tell them promo code "Windows Mobile"
Pick out your plan....features....
Comes with either free BT headset or car charger, no activation fee.
....if that helps you make the decision, thats how I went
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Ok, so I tried that and here's what happened..
I called the number you gave and I had to call another number instead. That was fine. If I can save over $200 doing all this, it's worth it. I eventually got in touch with the person I needed who delt with promotional codes and all that. I gave her my information and eventually the "Windows Mobile" promo code. She came back and told me the code was accepted and it worked. It was unusal though because she said every other time she's delt with a promo code, they come denied, but they DO work. In my case, it was accepted and she wasn't sure whether or not it would actually work for me.
It's kinda ****ty because I went through all this to get it for one reason. To save over $200 and not have to go to the store eventually and get this. I'm saving up for a down payment on a car at the moment and that's the reason I haven't went and got a Wing yet like I want to. But who can pass up on a deal like this? So it came to like $370-something for the phone and activation.. whatever else. If the promo ends up working, she said the money could be credited to my account.
Thing is, you have like 20 days to return the phone. Or I could refuse the package when it comes to my house and i'd be given a refund. Do I really wanna take the chance and keep the phone to see what my first bill is gonna look like? What if the promo code didn't work? Then i'm stuck with a $400 loss I don't want to take right now because I need the money for the reason I stated above. Or I could always wait for the bill and if it didn't work, I could call back and ***** to them and say the CSR said the promo code worked and it didn't take effect for me.
I'm not sure at this point, heh.
itslinx said:
Ok, so I tried that and here's what happened..
So it came to like $370-something for the phone and activation.. whatever else. If the promo ends up working, she said the money could be credited to my account.
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Price sounds off, with the promo my phone was $100 and plan was another $50, adding up to ~~$180 after taxes and such with no activation fee.
b.mann said:
Price sounds off, with the promo my phone was $100 and plan was another $50, adding up to ~~$180 after taxes and such with no activation fee.
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Well yeah, i'm paying the $300 + dollars for the phone AND activation. Once I get the phone in a couple days, i'm gonna call tmobile and tell them about what happened. The promo code got accepted, so I wanna know if i'm gonna be refunded my money and get the promo price/deal. If so, i'll stay with tmobile. If not, i'll send the phone back. From what I hear, tmobile has great customer service. So hopefully they do and they help me out or i'll just send the phone back. I took advantage of the promo offer because I wanted to save money and get a great deal. If I wanted to spend the $300 and something dollars, I would have went to the store and got a phone THAT day.
I got my wing with this promotion. it's $99 but $50 after mail in rebate. you have to order a data plan for the rebate plus you get a free bluetooth headset. it only comes up to more if you have to get a flex plan meaning your credit was kinda jacked so they want you to pay for your bill up front. either way it's a good as deal. anybody need the info on it just pm me.

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