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Video Out through mini USB?

Has anyone looked into this? With the audio now being output there, is there another pin carrying video that's yet undiscovered? Thanks.

nope no video out from what ive researched. even if there were, its qvga resolution so you are fairly limited.
you could your soti pocket controller to control your pda from your PC, you get a real time feed of you ppc on your pc.
hope this helps.
adios...

It is definitely possible to do it (even that I have no idea how).
Ateksoft has a program called WebCamera Plus which let you use your PDA as real-time webcam.
http://www.ateksoft.com/webcamplus.html
I'm using it on my TyTN and it works great.

using a pda or symbian smart phone as a webcam is possible as the software captures the straming video and transmits its as data packetrs via usb or BT to a PC, in which it is then decoded on the PC and the image/video stream from the camera is formed.
Actual video out (such as that accomplished with notebooks) via usb on the TYTN is another thing - from what I have read it might not be possible.

Anyone seen or tried the MicroSD version of this http://www.spectec.com.tw/sdv.htm ?

its really funny u askd this cus just last night b4 I went to bed, I wondered the same thing
I googled video out via usb and found a 60 dollar cable that converted from standard usb to s-video and audio and I'm sure theres mini-usb to usb converter
=) so hope that helps. I'd look it up but I have no 3g here at my parents lake house =/ I'm connectd over gsm, just got here. I get no umts at all and barely any gsm signal. this craps slow

I looked on the net for the Spectec Video-To-Go microSD Card and found it here
http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=139433&partner=froogle
It's $171.95. this would be great if I was still doing customer presentations.

Please note: This product does not convert the screen’s image into a VGA video signal. ... then what exactly does this do .. has me confused since some time ...
Also, these things require SDIO support .. not sure if TyTN got one ..

It'd be easy enough to emulate VGA on your device and use that for presentations, but your limitation is lack of an I/O to the graphic chip. As such, you're stuck with streaming the display data, which will be slow (for games), but perhaps perfectly fine for a slideshow.
Next prob though is the hardware - you can stream from device to device, but not stream from device to a (mini-usb) wire to a projector etc - at least the hardware issues are well beyond my experience.
A streaming projector might be a good solution. But all in, I think you're generally stuck for a cheap solution to outputing video over USB without a surrogate device in the middle. And if you're gonna have a surrogate, you might as well use that as the display device.
Check out nyditot for a VGA emulator.
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May I suggest a better way? Simply install PC-based Powerpoint viewer on storage card. That way you merely need to drop your card into an USB SD reader, connect the reader to any host PC, and run your presentation. I do this often and avoid traveling with my laptop.
-Jeff

One reason I've always disliked the Ateksoft solution is that it requires installation of Ateksoft magicry on the PC. A true webcam solution should simply make the PPC act like a dumb webcam, piping the audio and video to the USB. We've all experienced those cheap webcams which you just plug in to your USB port, and MSN or Yahoo or whatever can pick up the device as an audio/video webcam, no installation of drivers required.
Software which does for webcam what Softick does for USB mass storage is what I'm after...

You didn't say what you wanted by 'video out'.. but I can tell you there aren't any 'unused' pins in the USB pinout. They're all audio or usb data. If the TYTN supported usb on the go (which it doesn't seem to) then you might see it turn into a mass storage device or webcam easily..
But for the moment, no, theres no pins to tap a composite or vga signal off of. I highly doubt the device has such a chip on board.

eh, I wanted to output video to my car A/V system. since I can sync the video on my device to my media center, that would be the easiest way to take shows to my car. so the streaming or flash solutions really don't address the problem for me...thanks for all of the thinking on it, though

ditto here
JEM said:
eh, I wanted to output video to my car A/V system. since I can sync the video on my device to my media center, that would be the easiest way to take shows to my car. so the streaming or flash solutions really don't address the problem for me...thanks for all of the thinking on it, though
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That's the kinda stuff i've always wanted e.i. connecting my PDA to the SVideo Input of my car screen.
Seems "easy" to do with activesync, but seems to cause trouble because of the lack of video stream on usb pinout.
I'm just letting out an idea : Might be possible to emulate an activesync connection and capture the sreeen of the PDA and broadcast it out on svideo.
(don't ask, I don't even have a clue of how to do that)
SOTI Pocket controler and My Mobiler can do that, any chance someone find out a way ?
TY Guys, have fun

quick question about the TP2 and car stereos.

most car stereos today have a USB in for connecting an IPod, Zune, whatever.
do these work with the TP2?

crazy talk said:
most car stereos today have a USB in for connecting an IPod, Zune, whatever.
do these work with the TP2?
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Probably yes (haven't tried it myself), but when you connect your TP2 to an USB-host (which the car stereo is), the TP2 asks you which mode you want (Active Sync, Disk Drive or Internet Sharing). If you select Disk Drive, the microSD card shows up as a diskdrive in windows (or your car stereo...)

Yup, what andrehj says.
All devices that show up as Mass Storage will definately work on car stereo's. Worked on mine. But I never use it. Because mine has Bluetooth 2.0 A2DP support (stereo streaming). It works flawlessly.
No wires for me. Except the charger itself. xD

Simultaneous program access?
I can confirm that the TP2 works in drive mode as an input for a car stereo. However it appears the phone restricts access to the storage card in this mode and programs cannot access it, which means things like TomTom cannot access maps.
Does anyone know a way around this? Is it a WinMo restriction or something else?

Please specify "drive mode"?
I've used mine playing music through A2DP in combination with Tomtom Navigator 7 + Benelux maps.
The only downside I experienced was that the Tomtom voice was much louder than the music I played. Thus when adjusting the music volume to a much louder level, that Tomtom woman scares the heck outta me. Like when needed to take a turn, it's more like "GO LEFT!!!!!! W$E%T#@$%[email protected](#%|(!# ". In between the music.
No problem with tomtom reading the maps though.

'Drive mode' via USB
Thanks Crix84. By 'drive mode' I meant the Disk Drive mode that you can select when connecting via USB. I expect accessing via the BT profile is quite different which is why things work for your setup.
That TT girl would be scary at high volume!

Ohhh okay now I understand. You mean't the mass storage function I was talking about in a previous post of mine.
Well for what I've found and experienced. That mode makes the phone really function like a USB stick aka Mass Storage Device. At that moment only the MicroSD card is blocked from access within the phone. For what I know, the driver used for Mass Storage (any windows system or other) is a standardized universal driver. Wich means it must be as illogic to access the card both from within the phone and the computer/car-radio through USB at the same time. Like using 1 usb stick on 2 pc's by using a usb splitter. Device in use means in use.
Active Sync in the other hand uses a different kind of USB connection. It accesses the phone itself, through that, the card. Mass Storage is a direct function to the microsd card. Kind of a bypass. For compatibility issues. When you just want to put something on your card without the hassle of installing drivers (on old pc's) etc. Wich would really mean that the maps on the card for Tomtom are inaccessible. That would really be indeed a problem. The only solution for that is either use the phone as I do. Bluetooth A2DP not available? Then the car-audio system should change the access mode to the phone. Maybe an active sync like solution/connection. Problem is most manufacturers do that. Thinking of only using a USB stick on the radio. Mine does that too. Only mass storage devices are accepted through my radio's usb.

Custom Media Device

I hope my inquiry does not sound stupid as I am not familiar with the smartphone modding scene.
I am looking to build or modify an Android device and turn it in to a high capacity media (Keyword: Media) player with around 1 TB of capacity since those morons at Apple won't get off their lazy asses and take the f*ing hard drive out of the iPod classic and slap it into an iPod Touch... I mean "iPhone with the phone"... idiots, anyways that is why I want to do this.
I have a large music collection, at 320kbps my music sits at about 450 GB and I would like to have a device that can hold all my music plus my favorite movies, TV shows, photos, and because I am looking at Android, my favorite Android games.
My first question is, is this possible or will I have to keep dreaming and hoping that some tech giant will clearly do what is technically possible today before I get old and die.
My second question is, I will need a custom ROM with a unique interface designed to be a media player and does not have a web browser, messaging app, etc... A ROM that functions like the iPod classic OS and supports everything iTunes supports including playcounts, ratings, smartplaylist, etc but designed for a touch screen player. Where would I find a ROM like this or who would make it.

how about trying "audio galaxy" ? before we go tearing **** apart and making custom Frankenstein creations . you will have every song on your computer available on your phone playlists all of that. with out a single file being on your device. it uses your phones data network, i guess its the cloud thing they talk about . i use it everyday i highly recommend it

So technically attaching a hard drive to a smart phone is possible. The biggest problem is size, a 1 tb drive is still a large drive, much larger than your phone. The bigger problem is power. Hard drives require tons and tons of power and even SSDs require a good chunk (on the order of one to two watts depending on operation). I know there are roms that focus on basic functionality but I don't know if any are geared specifically for being only music players.

I can offer u a 25%, including only a custom android os with music and video playback apps and wifi-bt-usb connectivity. And any app u need for ur media player. ( if u can buy a hd2 its the best for android-wp7.5 dual boot. And a lot of devs for it now)
Sent from my HTC HD2 using xda premium

At this stage even 250 Gb,s is almost impossible without having an enourmous piece of hardware, and you will need a fast prossesor, and a HUGE battery, the UI is possible
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using XDA

I suppose this would be possible. If your phone supports USB host mode, you could try simply using a 1TB external hard drive.
After some searching around, I came across an article on the topic.
Step 1
You need to prepare your external HDD by formatting it to FAT32. If you have stuff in your hard drive, which is in NTFS state, you should move it temporarily to some other media while you prepare your hard drive.
This is perhaps the only downside to this procedure. But depending on your usage you can make this step worth your effort. This is just a one time only step so don’t be afraid to carry out the arduous task of moving your items from and to your HDD.
Step 2
Connect your portable HDD to your tablet.
Step 3
Make sure your USB switch state is set to ‘Host’. Get this free USB Mode Switcher app if you don’t know how to do it.
Step 4
Switch to your file manager app and wait for it to detect your hard drive. It might take sometime for the app to detect your external drive during which time you should keep refreshing, but once it has detected, the streaming is flawless.
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Source:
http://hackslurp.com/2011/08/21/how...m-external-hard-drive-to-your-android-tablet/

[Q] Interested in Nexus 10 - Thoughts & Questions

Hi everyone,
I was looking at both the Nexus 10 and the Samsung Note 10. I saw the specs for both and obviously the Nexus has better specs aside from the lack of SD card slot.
I was wonder from other users if they could clue me into short comings for a few of the things I would like to get this tablet for.
1. I have lot of tutorials videos that I would like to use to tablet to see. They come in various formats including wmv, mov, flv, and sometimes other formats. Will viewing tutorials on this tablet be a problem? One thing I am concerned about is how will I be able to store them on the tablet considering the storage is so small. I did some brief searching online and apparently I can get some wire and hook up an external thumb usb drive. I rip a lot of movie dvds for my home theater (Usually movies are around 2GB+ .mov).
2. Is tethering from lets say an HTC EVO (3G) ok for surfing the web when on the road?
3. If you don't have a working wifi connection, can you still use the tablet and google maps for directions? GPS should work without wifi no? Guess the question becomes can you download google maps before hand.

I would suggest getting the N10 and popcorn player for your videos that way you take notes while watching videos usig either freenote or any of the other good handwriting apps

the lack of SD card slot can be easily overcome by using an OTG cable and installing the Nexus Media Importer app. You can connect any USB flash drive or SD card reader to the OTG cable.
I would still suggest getting a 32GB version. You can't store games on a SD card.
Mine tethers fine with a Galaxy S2 wifi hotspot. No reason yours won't.
Not sure about the GPS thing.

Thanks for the feedback and info guys!
Good point on using popcorn player and having a note taking app open!

1. My N10 managed to play every video I threw at it using VLC player. Also you can connect not only USB drives and SD Card readers but also certain 2.5" or 1.8" hard drives. I use a WD MyPassport 500GB and it works as long as the tablet's battery is above about 75%.
2. Tethering works fine. WLAN or Bluetooth, whatever you prefer. Bluetooth tethering is fairly easy on the battery.
3. You can download Maps for offline viewing and GPS works offline as well. I saved my home city (Berlin) and some areas I often go to and it takes up about 150 MB.

Some questions before jumping in.

Dear N10 Community,
I have been looking around for a good 10 inch Android tablet and have more or less decided on the N10 over the Pipo M8 Pro and the 10 inch offers from Samsung.
However, the lack of microsd expansion bothers me and I wonder if you gentlemen and gentleladies might be able to help.
I intend to use the N10 for work as well as pleasure. At the moment, I carry all my files with me on a USB hub with 4 x 32Gb Sandisk Cruzer Fits attached.
I would like to access the files, both reading and writing, on these Cruzer Fits via OTG. For example I receive a file from my boss and I download it to edit. I would like to be able to save the file directly onto one of the Cruzer Fits and edit the file directly from there. Basically I want to bypass the N10 storage altogether (reserving that space for personal entertainment).
Would any of you be able to shed light on whether that is possible? And what I would need to do to make it happen? E. G. Root the N10, buy a particular app or something?
Best regards and merry Christmas
Jake.

You need a OTG adaptor, only a few quid off E-Bay, then an app to let you read/write to the USB. I bought this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.homeysoft.nexususb.importer&hl=en and it does the job fine (doesn't require root)
Of course if you know you'll have access to wi-fi you can use Dropbox, Google Drive or Box which all have apps and it negates the need for the USB.

I use the same paid app too, and Stickmount which is free.

Thanks guys! I'll give it a shot!
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quojake said:
Dear N10 Community,
I intend to use the N10 for work as well as pleasure. At the moment, I carry all my files with me on a USB hub with 4 x 32Gb Sandisk Cruzer Fits attached.
I would like to access the files, both reading and writing, on these Cruzer Fits via OTG. For example I receive a file from my boss and I download it to edit. I would like to be able to save the file directly onto one of the Cruzer Fits and edit the file directly from there. Basically I want to bypass the N10 storage altogether (reserving that space for personal entertainment).
Would any of you be able to shed light on whether that is possible? And what I would need to do to make it happen? E. G. Root the N10, buy a particular app or something?
Best regards and merry Christmas
Jake.
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You need to root the N10. Most corporate use policies ban rooting meaning you're going to get frowned at, or must keep the fact you rooted it a secret (noone can really tell unless they look). Then install Stickmount (it needs root). The USB sticks are probably FAT32 formatted so will work, but if they happen to be formatted say NTFS then you'll need to follow the instructions for the app to copy ntfs-3g to /sdcard.
You sound like you want read-only which the above will do, if you want to copy files TO the USB stick from the N10 if its NTFS then you need SELinux Mode Changer app.
You said you want to watch films on the USB and NOT copy to the N10 but that means you are powering the stick from the N10 and accelerating battery drain. Even if you got the Pogo cable, it won't actually be taking in any charge when the USB is being used for Stickmount. Also, on my N10, I use a USB NTFS harddrive, and it doesn't stay working long enough to watch stuff, so I copy files off and watch locally, it needs only then work for a couple of minutes which is does perfectly ok. So I'd encourage you to think of temporarily connecting and copying files and deleting rather than watching it off the stick.
If there is another device able to share the same Wifi then you can also connect storage to that other device and stream via CIFS mount share or http, e.g. connect USB storage to a Rasberry PI and run Apache on it and link /var/www/something to the usb mount (/mnt/something). I guess that sounds scary if you're not a geek. I have such and 1TB drive connected to it as my primary datastore for media when at home.
Speed, I get about 2MB/s Wifi CIFS copy, 4MB/s Wifi FTP copy and 7MB Wifi http copy and about 21MB/s copying off USB harddrive so a typical HD film is about 1GB/hour, so 1.5GB copy off USB is say 71 seconds to copy or over http copy is 214s.
Best media play is MX Player, having tried them all. Oh and if you root you can install Adaway to block MX Player's ads when you pause.