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CoolCamera - use your Magician as Webcamera in Skype!

ATEKsoft CoolCamera - the best program to take pictures and video on PDA-phones like I-mate JAM, MDA Compact, QTEK S100/S110, O2 XDA mini, Orange SPV M500, Dopod 818, O2 Xda IIi, Dopod 699, i-Mate PDA2, Qtek 2020i.
ATEKsoft CoolCamera key features:
High frame rate (up to 25 fps) and smooth video. Efficient encoding algorithm utilize your XScale processor at maximum!
Easy camera control. All actions can be performed using hardware buttons only.
Camera adjustment without leaving view-finder mode.
Interval picture capturing.
High resolution (up to 1280x960) video in Motion Jpeg AVI format.
Pause/resume video recording process.
NEW! Using PDA as Webcamera.
NEW! Available video resolutions and frame rates (with sound)*:
160x120 - 24 fps
320x240 - 24 fps
320x480 - 17 fps
640x240 - 18 fps
640x480 - 12 fps
1280x960 - 2 fps
*Video was saved in the Main Memory.

Hey Men What A Bomb..Look Like A Dream For We The Magecian Lover...
Video At 640*480 WoW!!!!!!!!!!
Though Its Telling it is a unregistered Version And It Cant Save The Pics...
Too Bad
I Can Pay Any Amount To Get The Full Working Version...
Please Tell Us Who Is The Developer Of This Software...And The web Adress U Get It From...
Please Keep In Touch And Deliver The Full Version
Thanks.

What's the purpose of the demo if we can't save the video? :roll:

think its a fake, just someone who's using the standard API's in a nice way

Don't think there is a standard API for WM2003.
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I thought I saw some line in the exe that stated that: GXBeginDraw, GXEndDraw etc.
Doesn't he just makes a connection from the camera to the display and uses hardware function to set the image to a resolution or effect and teases us with 640*480 video?

Could be, I haven't looked into this app yet, no time, but AFAIK there was no HTC published API for the camera. That doesn't mean it can't be used by 3rd parties of course. And on WM5 it's built into the OS as well.
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something like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=55956

I've seen the CowBurn code before, but it's not an HTC or Microsoft API, so it's not really an "official" API. Good stuff though, and very useful.
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hmmm, is it? I was always to lazy to install the VS package for it, maybe I should give it a try...
But, what do you think, is the S100 capable of doing 640*480 video? I thought it was hardware restricted? :?:

Just had a proper look through the CowBurn code. As far as I can see, this isn't an interface to the camera, but merely a wrapper around the built in camera.exe right?
That's not as crufty as hacking into the HTC dlls/drivers themselves...
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Seems to be very nice, indeed. Any plans on releasing a working version?

see www.ateksoft.com

OK ZUP! :lol:
Thanks! seems to be a serious effort!
Hope they can get a better result out of the cam than HTC did :wink:

It's already march! Just release it []

NEW VERSION
There is a new version, check the site noted bij suip2006!
It seems that this version is able to capture and save data, but it doesnt work for me

sorry, that seems to be limited to the shareware version, but where is it? :?

ronski said:
sorry, that seems to be limited to the shareware version, but where is it? :?
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I guess they will release it when they are happy with it. I would wait an extra couple of weeks for s/w that works rather than getting something early that's buggy.

TheBrit said:
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sorry, that seems to be limited to the shareware version, but where is it? :?
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I guess they will release it when they are happy with it. I would wait an extra couple of weeks for s/w that works rather than getting something early that's buggy.
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But isn't it something like Windows Mobile 5.0 for Magician?
If you hear that its out...willn't you be the first one to try it for real? even a beta buggy one?
This comcoder software is not that important...but its next to win 5.0 and Bluetooth...so its normal we the people who use magician's camera a bit more then general user will be interested to use this....even a buggy one...

Camera alredy available!
It Works!

More camera recording tweaks?

I've searched and tried all the camera tweaks avaliable to try to help my 8125 record better video. I've changed the FPS registry from 10 FPS to 15 to 19...its still very laggy. I don't mind that the quality is only mediocore, I just wish it wasn't so laggy. Maybe someone with super knowledge can help with some registry tweaks or additional programing?
BTW, this forum rocks. I come here everyday and read alot but this is my 1st post :lol:

This is the closes thing I've ever found
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=256367&highlight=video+tweaks
Strange I would have figured getting better Video quality would be of Priority.
I thought by now they'd have a cab file with video Tweaks like they did for the cam but idk ?
I'd Love to know if thre is. Closest thing I've seen is the Coolcamera app and looks tempting to Get . Only $17.90 ...worth it considering I use the Cam + video ALOT !

Herald as a Hidef Camcorder

Has any1 tried to increase (hack/regedit/hexedit, or thirdparty app, homebrew app, etc.) the resolution of video capture. With an Overclocked CPU what do y'all think is the highest resolution captured possible w/ this 2M camera. 1280x720p? 1920x1080i/p?. I know there are HD camcorders out there w/ less CPU power but dedicated chips for video encoding. How difficult to write such an app? Any tips to get started? Much thanks.

It's a 2mp camera so the max resolution is 1600x1200 if you go past that you start to get ripping/tearing and the images look ugly (I believe). It would be nice if the camera recorded in a higher quality/resolution I just don't know if that's possible with the hardware.

kraftey said:
It's a 2mp camera so the max resolution is 1600x1200 if you go past that you start to get ripping/tearing and the images look ugly (I believe). It would be nice if the camera recorded in a higher quality/resolution I just don't know if that's possible with the hardware.
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I don't have the phone yet. But I believe that the current App only allows a much lower res than 1600x1200 for video capturing, such as 640x480. Still image is possible up to 1600x1200. Pls chime in current owners. Thanks.

For sure this would be a great improvement, but as you all know PPC camera's are complete ****. I doubt that anything like this is possible but I would love for someone to prove me wrong.

wickedwings said:
I don't have the phone yet. But I believe that the current App only allows a much lower res than 1600x1200 for video capturing, such as 640x480. Still image is possible up to 1600x1200. Pls chime in current owners. Thanks.
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Heh the standard camera app won't let you get past 176x144 in movie mode. You might be able to squeeze a jolty 320x240 clip out of your phone when using a third party app such as CoolCamera and overclocking the crap out of your chip, but 640x480 is off limits by far. The camera on these things is slow and not nearly as sophisticated as a camcorder. You'll have to wait another few years

Try to use Ateksoft "Cool caera" or Webcamera plus.
You can get ebtter pics and videos with Coolcamera.....
Up to 640x480 and more.
But Highdefinition is something else
http://ateksoft.com/

Slow Mo video record ?

I've noticed the 800xwhatever video recording afforded in froyo 72 doesn't allow for different size/type of recording, like mms or whatever....
and wondered, if it's possible to simply change a .plist (sorry, i use macs) or something that will allow the options again for say...
720p vs 800 vs 320 vs 240 vs 180-slo-motion-high-framerate
anyone else considered it ? it would be pretty cool to capture @ 60/120/180fps even at lower frame sizes to show action/fails/you-get-the-idea.
I promise I won't use this power for porn. ;-)
so, any ideas ?

Your better off capturing the raw video and doing that stuff in post. If you have an idea learn to impliment it. There is already someone working on 720p and it has settings to change the video size, which is something you wanted to do.
The video will be resized when you send a MMS so I don't think you need to worry about that aspect.
Comming from the Marketing aspect of video/photography it's always best to capture as much as you can, then do other effects after the fact that way you don't limit what you already have.

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Your better off capturing the raw video and doing that stuff in post. If you have an idea learn to impliment it. There is already someone working on 720p and it has settings to change the video size, which is something you wanted to do.
The video will be resized when you send a MMS so I don't think you need to worry about that aspect.
Comming from the Marketing aspect of video/photography it's always best to capture as much as you can, then do other effects after the fact that way you don't limit what you already have.
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i getcha ^ right, but the post processing will mean a good deal of swapping between a computer and the phone. 720p is great, if i want an archive to pull from later on, editing bits and pieces etc but that will not work for a mms or email attachement.
or maybe
i've missed something in the froyo version of gallery/camera as mine is currently dropping to an OVERSIZE FILE error for anything that is not selected as 'mms' or whatever sized video before shooting.
currently frf72 only allows shooting in xyz mode, but no post processing, no resizing.
if sizes were selectable before shooting AND frame rates, it might confuse the user, or like you've pointed out give them a very poor quality video when what was expected was something else. i think it's better as you've pointed out, K.I.S.S. and let it be.
guess this thread could be locked/deleted or whatever. idea would add confusion and delay.

It's not a bad idea, just one that doesn't really have a practical use for being on a phone when you can do so much more with a basic computer program.

Customise your stock camera

Have you ever checked this folder /system/etc/camera? You can tune noise reduction, sharpness, contrast, hdr, night mode, light mode, nice food, scene recognition and many other algorithms as well. I have no knowledge and experience but if you want you can try and share your experience.
Sent from Honor 7

Spencer_D said:
Have you ever checked this folder /system/etc/camera? You can tune noise reduction, sharpness, contrast, hdr, night mode, light mode, nice food, scene recognition and many other algorithms as well. I have no knowledge and experience but if you want you can try and share your experience.
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LOL! Why did nobody recognized before??

There was a mod that tuned camera long time ago, but in a different way - https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-7/development/mod-camera-mod-100-jpeg-compression-t3340978
Anyway, Honor 7 camera is amazing and highly underrated - mostly because of too much noise reduction and too big jpeg compression. Just by changing camera app to a third party one (like Snap Camera for example) that allows you to change jpeg output quality to something about 90-95% makes REALLY BIG difference. Stock camera app simply compresses files too much and in effect reduces quality and amount of details. Files from stock camera are like 5-7mb each, while the ones from third party app are like 14-20mb! One problem though - sometimes, when image photographed scene has actually too much detail and resulting image exceedes 20mb you get nothing. Probably some memory issue.
Thing is, Honor 7 had great potential (and camera was just a part of it), but the interest in this device was killed by Honor itself. People who owned it mostly already sold it as there are big issues in current software that will most likely never be fixed. Therefore i would not expect to get much developement in camera area as the userbase is now reduced. It wasn't big year ago and it's only getting smaller and smaller.

Not much replies here. Anyone oriented on this matter yet?
First of all, I tried third-party camera app (Open Camera) that gives me 100% jpeg quality option, but I haven't tested real life quality out yet. Definitely bigger file size.
Video is the one I'm trying to focus on, tho. Open Camera gives me options for bitrate. Tried 50 and 40 Mbps. With higher dynamics real life framerate didn't go over 14 fps. With locked and somewhat under adjusted exposure, it can handle 30fps on 1080p. But it's no good when trying to shoot "professional" video. Didn't check the real life bitrate either.
As supevixen stated there's some threshold on bitrate and/or jpeg compression buffer. Any idea why?
So what I'm trying to solve is;
- Why there's so low threshold on buffer and can it be optimized? Could it buffer better if I used fast external SD instead of internal?
- How to optimize buffer to match hardware maximum?
- Should I continue using third-party apps or should I try to optimize stock camera .xml files?
- How to reduce denoising? (xml optimization)
- How to lock frame rate and/or shutter speed on video recording? (xml optimization)
I'm not very familiar with jquery or imx230 or much about the Honor 7 SoC either. I'm fast learner and very interested on optimizing the camera.
Ok, here we go. I'd figure that: "/system/etc/camera/multidenoise" -> "multidenoise.xml" is for the "selfie camera" as it states attributes for IMX134 and IMX135. So this doesn't need optimization, if I'm getting this right. "/system/etc/camera/davinci/imx230" has "hdr.xml", "imgproc.xml" and "multiframe.xml" files. "imgproc.xml" I believe has everything to do with the image processing. "multiframe.xml" has everything to do with denoising and luma enhancing, I recon. How to properly reduce denoising? Should I also tinker with luma enhancement or image processing? Also, as I stated I'd like to lock down the shutter speed on video recording, with frame rate set to 25. "/system/etc/camera/bshutter/imx230/" -> "algo.xml" has algorithms for shutter behavior. Any way to optimize those?
Or should I simply throw this peace of crap out of my life? Camera has great potential anyway, would be shame to toss it away.
If there's someone with some knowledge on the matter, I'd be more than grateful. Thanks in advance.

anamorphica, i didn't try modding original camera app by editing various files as i don't wan't to lose warranty, but i've tried many different camera apps and best one i've found is Snap Camera which paid version i'm using right now. Why? Simply because it can save jpeg files with 100% and it makes HUGE difference. Just imagine - files saved by stock camera are about 5-6MB each where files saved by Snap Camera are about 16-20MB each! And difference is really BIG when you zoom just a little bit and as we have 20mpix camera sensor it actually does make sense to "zoom" by just cropping full image to desired part and gues what - it is possible with good quality images. Of course you can save jpeg's with different quality in most third party apps (like Open Camera or Zoom FX for example), but Snap Camera seems to work best for me (it's interface is ok, it does have many useful options) and it also has amazing HDR mode (three images with different exposure are stacked together for final one - there are other apps that work that way but believe me - results from Snap Camera are by far best)
There is however one downside - sometimes, when detail quantity is to big and output image exceeds ~20MB files are not saved. It happens rarely (really) but it has to be somehow connected with amount of memory needed to that amount of data (in RAW data it has to be much more than just compressed 20 megabytes) and that's probably one of the reasons why stock camera app saves such highly compressed images. Take note, that every other "creative" mode in stock camera doesn't output full res images (light painting and night mode - they're about 8 or 10mpix as i remember) and i'm pretty sure that's also connected with memory limitations (probably not whole RAM - just the part available at the moment for camera sensor and GPU)
As for video quality, there's probably not much we can do, as our Kirin SOC is limited. Where Sony smartphones with same IMX230 can record up to 4k and have OIS, we can do only 1080p with just electronic image stabilisation and pretty low bitrate. Slow motion is also pretty bad with framedrops...
Anyway, as for me, Snap Camera is the best and i'm not going to mess with stock one. Just when i need those light painting modes or night mode - it's ok. But in good light i'll stick with Snap.

Thanks for your reply.
I'd like to know if buffer is really low/restricted due to hardware limitation. As I see it, Kirin is overkill for the needed buffer and RAM should be more than enough.
Someone made 100% jpeg quality mod to "media_profiles.xml", but every bitrate etc. values were set to very odd numbers. It's just hard time to believe that this phone couldn't handle more than what it does now.
btw. I read somewhere that Honor 7 GPU would be plenty for OIS as it should be implemented on IMX230 and people was waiting for firmware update to fix much of those restrictions, well we all know that update never came.

Our Kirin is not that good actually. Not only it does have issues with energy management (that's why apps in background are killed on stock roms and why battery times are much less impressive with CM roms - without agressive app killer built in stock firmware) but it is also crippled on GPU part (no Vulkan compatibility) and not really video capable - like i've said, phones based on different SOCs with same camera sensor are more capable (different codecs etc.) Our phone can't even record perfectly fluent slomo video with stock app - just try it, it's never without freezes.
All in all, i don't think it's worth mess with internal configuration files - you won't get too much probably, at least on video part.