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Hi all. I looked at several wi-fi posts on here, but couldn't find anything related to my problem.
I'm beginning to suspect that it's because of something stupid I'm doing, cos it really should be working...
Anyhoo ...I have a wireless router at home, and it's serving 3 PCs with DHCP IP addresses, and an internet connection. I have no issues with it.
What I'm trying to do now is get my shiny new XDAIIi to connect, so that I can have the damn thing on the internet. So far, no luck.
Now, I have got the XDA to detect my SSID. It detects all the settings, and tells me it's connected. I even have a signal strength bar on it which reads about 50%.
However, when I set it to pick up a DHCP address it stubbornly refuses, remaining with a "I can't see a DHCP server" 169.x.x.x address.
I've tried reserving an address on the router and allocating it to the MAC address of the XDA, and manually setting the XDA to have that IP address, entering my router as the gateway, and even entering 2 valid DNS server IPs from my ISP into the name server entries. Still nothing. It says it's connected with the IP address I allocated, but I have no net connection, and I can't ping that address from any of my PCs.
All the while the status screen on the router tells me that the device, with it's MAC address, is connected to the router fine.
Surely this has to be something simple. I have set up all the clients and router for my network, and the settings on the XDA are pertty much the same, and really SHOULD be working.
I'm kinda at my wits end.
So basically any suggestions or advice, or anyone with similar experiences please get in touch, cos I'm struggling to see what I've done wrong, and it's giving me an ulcer.
Many thanks in advance.
Jess
3COM WAP (3CRWE454G72) - XDA IIi WIFI Problems
Hi Jess,
I very much share your frustration.
I have a 3COM WAP (3CRWE454G72) which has served me well. I have a few machines at home working from it. At work we have 20+ machines working from the same model (older firmware).
My specs are as follow:
3C number 3CRWE454G72
Software version 1.03.07A
Boot loader version 1.00.00
Wireless version V1.0.2.1
Hardware version R01A
Don't have the office one's specs here at the moment ...
At work I can get an IP address (there's a windows DHCP server) .. AND I can ping google and traceroute to google. BUT, XDA IIi doesn't seem "know" that it's connected (e.g. network settings shows the WAP as available, but not connected). SKYPE even works!! But nothing else, no IE, no Terminal Services Client, no Avant Go, no network ActiveSync. They all say that the is no network card configured (but with vxUTIL, vxIPCONFIG, etc). I can see ALL the IP details from the DHCP server.
At home it's worse. I can't even get it to connect to the WAP (either with WEP 128, WEP 64 or encryption turned off). As I'm not even getting an IP address at home from the WAP's DHCP server, I've built a new DHCP server on my one linux box and it works for all my machines ... now I can actually trace requests from devices for IP's ... and the XDA IIi never requests an IP address. Which tells me that it's not even getting through the first stages of connecting with the WAP (again tried WEP, NO WEP).
To make things worse. I have been able to connect to some open WAP's in the neighbourhood ... everything functioning normal.
I'm losing the will to live here also ... ;-)
Wolfie
the plot thickens...
Hi Wolfie.
Well, at this end I seem to have more news.
By removing all WEP encryption and removing the MAC address access restriction I had enabled, I got the XDAIIi online, and all was working.
I then enabled the security a step at a time, and at each step updated the configuration on the handheld, and it still all worked. I was so pleased.
)
However this morning I have come to put the thing online again, and once again it refuses to pick up a DHCP address.
I tried my process again, and this time it wont work.
It definitely seems that it's the encryption that's stopping it, but I can't get it working this morning.
When I disabled everything I managed to get it online, but then re-enabling the security killed it and I can't get it to come online again.
SIGH
Oh well, I will try again later. Fussy thing. Anyone ever manage to solve this ??
Jess
have u tried soft reseting the device and retrying, sometimes that cures these hiccups
rgds
jim
WIFI WOES
Jess, thanks for the reply. There's hope. ;-)
I have tried your approach yesterday. However, to no avail. At home I completely opened my WAP, e.g. any MAC, no WEP/WPA, etc. But still nothing. When I look at my log files on the WAP. I can see plenty of entries coming from my XDA IIi ...
04 min(s) 41 sec(s) after system power on : Wireless MAC address 00:09:2D:14:C9:F2 has connected with the device
04 min(s) 43 sec(s) after system power on : Wireless MAC address 00:09:2D:14:C9:F2 has connected with the device
04 min(s) 45 sec(s) after system power on : Wireless MAC address 00:09:2D:14:C9:F2 has connected with the device
04 min(s) 46 sec(s) after system power on : Wireless MAC address 00:09:2D:14:C9:F2 has connected with the device
04 min(s) 48 sec(s) after system power on : Wireless MAC address 00:09:2D:14:C9:F2 has connected with the device
04 min(s) 50 sec(s) after system power on : Wireless MAC address 00:09:2D:14:C9:F2 has connected with the device
... and it just goes on and on and on .... while trying to connect.
At the same time in all connections attemps, I don't get a single entry in my DHCP servers log saying that my XDA II attempted to connect.
Jim: I've tried hard resets, soft resets, O2 Active installed, Corporate mode, pretty much everything my single brain-cell can come up with. ;-)
The thing is definitely a little fiddly indeed ...
The search goes on ...
... anybody out there got their XDA IIi working with WIFI using DHCP and WEP or WPA?
Did you ever get this working?
I have a shiny new XDAIIi and have been trying to get connected via my Cisco Aironet 1200 WAP. The device happily detects my network, accepts the WEP key fine (complains if I enter the wrong key so I know it's communicating) but refuses to pick up an IP address. The Wireless LAN Manager just sits there "Scanning network..."
I firmly belive I'm just missing something but...........
Any help gratefully received :?
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I got my QTek 2020i today and for the life of me I can't get it to connect to the internet using my wifi connection @ home
I also have a 3COM router 3CRWE754G72-A and I have my home pc connected to this and also occassionally my work PC - both with no probs.
I can get the qtek to connect and I get a 50% signal strength and I can view an IP address and everything looks good but I can't seem to setup a "Connection" as required by IE?
This is what I get:
"Cannot connect with current connection settings. To change your connection settings, tap Settins"
I tap settings and I get this:
My ISP
Add a new modem connection
My ISP
Add a new modem connection
Add a new VPN server connection
Set up my proxy server
I've gone into each of these and had a "play" but I still can't get the bloody thing to work :evil:
Can someone PLEASE help as this is starting to drive me mad! - I'm not giving up easily...I've been trying to get this to work for a good 4 hours now and I can't find anything in the manual or on the web that helps...this post was the closest I could fine >>> hence the bump!
Cheers
Wayne
have you try to configure the network cards in the connection setting and set the internet using the tiacxwln Compatible Wireless Ethernet?
guoper said:
have you try to configure the network cards in the connection setting and set the internet using the tiacxwln Compatible Wireless Ethernet?
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Okay, I can get the connection to read "connected" via the Wireless Lan Manager and I can get an IP address - which is totally different to all the other PC's that use my wifi connection - they're all 192.168.1.x whereas this is very different? - the address that I get isn't even the same as the IP Address of my router - I have a static IP address so I know this isn't changing???
Also, when I view the network card page I see the following:
Configure Wireless Networks
Add New...
3Com Available
I can click on this and view the settings for it or I can hold-click and get the option of connecting. If I do this, it just says "connecting"; it never actually says "connected"?
Anyone know where I can get a walkthrough for this?
Cheers
Wayne
3 Com Routers
Hi, DotN
I put a 3Com router in my local pub.
I have no problem connecting to it and solving the usual pub talk problems with it.
If you are getting a connection but your IP address starts with 169.254 then I would say you have a WEP problem. The software only appears to check for incorrectly formatted WEP keys, so either turn it off or make sure you enter the correct key. When selecting connect to a router the message sticks on connecting, come out of the screen and go back in after about 30 secs. Check you ip address. I have had some issues with GRPS trying to connect, but they seem to go away after a couple of hides.
I have to say that I am not over the moon with my XDA2i, but the wifi part has worked pretty well for me.
Laters
Paddy
Re: 3 Com Routers
MacPad said:
Hi, DotN
I put a 3Com router in my local pub.
I have no problem connecting to it and solving the usual pub talk problems with it.
If you are getting a connection but your IP address starts with 169.254 then I would say you have a WEP problem. The software only appears to check for incorrectly formatted WEP keys, so either turn it off or make sure you enter the correct key. When selecting connect to a router the message sticks on connecting, come out of the screen and go back in after about 30 secs. Check you ip address. I have had some issues with GRPS trying to connect, but they seem to go away after a couple of hides.
I have to say that I am not over the moon with my XDA2i, but the wifi part has worked pretty well for me.
Laters
Paddy
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Hi Paddy
Thanks for the info. You're bang on with the IP Address!...169.254.x.x
So what encryption can I use?
I've deffinately got the correct password but it's obviously not working
Cheers
Wayne
Hi again
Okay, I've just checked the encryption and I'm using WPA-PSK authentication with TKIP encryption.
Is this what you had?
Cheers
Wayne
3 Com Routers
Are you using a password or 13 Hex pairs, I use the pairs. Try either turning wep of completely or entering 26 1s. Remove your setting for your ap in Configure Wireless Networks screen then reconnect.
Let me know what happens
Paddy
Re: 3 Com Routers
MacPad said:
Are you using a password or 13 Hex pairs, I use the pairs. Try either turning wep of completely or entering 26 1s. Remove your setting for your ap in Configure Wireless Networks screen then reconnect.
Let me know what happens
Paddy
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Okay, I've basically removed all security from my wifi setup. I live in the middle of nowhere so it's not a problem - although once I get the wifi working I'll try and get the security going again.
I still can't get a connection
...stop the press!
Okay, I had a thought...maybe I can't connect because of the speed?
the router is a 11g but supports 11b (which is what the QTek 2020i/XDA IIuses) - sure enough, I had the 11g only option selected - DOH!
removed that and I've managed to connect without security.
I assume this was my problem all along...will now stick the security back on and try again
Thanks again Paddy
Cheers
Wayne
Update: I've now managed to get the wifi working with WPA-SPK authentication using TKIP encryption
all along it was simply a case of me having the speed on the router set above what the PDA was capable of! I'd set this ages ago when I first setup my wlan and had forgotten about it cause everything I use is 11g
Cheers again
Wayne
DotN said:
Update: I've now managed to get the wifi working with WPA-SPK authentication using TKIP encryption
all along it was simply a case of me having the speed on the router set above what the PDA was capable of! I'd set this ages ago when I first setup my wlan and had forgotten about it cause everything I use is 11g
Cheers again
Wayne
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Doh!...nope, not working again...back to the 169.254.x.x problem.
It's obviously to do with the encryption this time. I'll try some other variations - at least I know that it can work :roll:
Cheers
Wayne
Ouch......
No hard feeling, glad you found the problem
Paddy
bump!
pretty much same prob!
i can get an ip, have to check what it is, it tells me its connected on the scanning network page but on the other bit it tells me its available or connecting but never connects!
i've turned wep off and still no joy!
its really starting to drive me mad!
please please someone help
Take a read back through the last lot of posts between myself and MacPad - I think you'll find the answer there.
For me, I had to totally disable my security and everything else - I could then connect. Once I'd done that, I managed to use WEP with a 26 digit key - start by using something like "0" 26 times...make sure u count as u type them zero's in though as if u get it wrong it won't work!
apart from that, not sure what to say. If you're getting the 164.x.x.x ip address though then as MacPad said, it's to do with the security.
I would mention that the XDAIIi/Qtek 2020ii use 11mbps wifi (b) and not 54mbps (g) so make sure u've got ya router configured to allow both types of connection...this eventually turned out to be my main problem - doh!
Cheers
Wayne
ok now im home ive re-read and done the things mentioned. with a completely unsecure connection i can get a connecation, but the moment i use any kind of encryption (im using wep 64bit, but tried 128bit as well) no matter what key i use i get a split second of connection then its gone!
firewall is not on either.
any ideas??
thank for the suggestions guys im finally progressing
I have a cingular 8125 and siemens sx66. Been going back and forth between the two because the I can't quite figure out how to solve the vpn problem on the 8125
I have been trying to get online using wireless vpn at my workplace (Indiana University). The sx66 works perfectly, but the 8125 is erratic in doing that. These are some of the problems
1. I have to soft reset almost every time I want to get connected.
2. After the connection is dropped (If I do get connected) due to the power saving settings, it basically depends on my luck if I get connected again. Sometimes I can connect after a couple of soft resets, other times I just give up.
I've checked my settings and they seem to be ok. Indiana University requires that MAC addresses be registered and the registration went OK for me but it seems that the dhcp server could not detect the platform for the MAC address. The VPN uses ipsec and a preshared key to get connected. IP's are server assigned
I haven't upgraded the ROM (1.8.11.1 WWE). I've only unlocked the SIM thus far.
Need help please.
For some reason I can connect to the internet very easily through GPRS (even when roaming), but at home with my own wirelss LAN, I can connect with no problem, but each time I try to access anything on the internet, I get a pop-up stating "Could not locate remote server". I don't have a router, I am using a desktop as the gateway, I am currently accessing the net with my laptop through the same means. All configurations for the LAN appear to be correct, but I must be missing something on the JAMin. In the WiFi settings, I see the LAN, almost full signal - Ad hoc Mode - status is connected - I'm assigned an IP ... seems like everything is in order.
Will one of you wizards point out what I've missed? I know it's probably simple, usually is.
If I'm having trouble connecting a device to a network that has previously been working ok, the first that I do is turn off all network security i.e WEP, MAC address filtering etc. Then reboot the wireless access point/router and your device. If you still can't connect, you can start to blame your device.
Don't think it's a network prob...
Thanks Matterhorn, but my laptop is still connected fine, no problems there... I get the feeling that the PPC's only recognising the GPRS as a valid network for internet access... it works okay when I login to a commercial WiFi network (when I'm in the States) but for some reason on my own network here at home, it logs in, just can't find a server for some reason. The first thing I thought of was the firewall, turned it off and still no luck.
Any other ideas? I thought maybe there was a setting for default AP or connection, but can't find it, nor can I find an appropriate reference in the manual. Ugh!
Resolved!
It would seem my JAMin was trying to access the internet not through the gateway, but through my laptop. As I don't have the laptop setup to share an internet connection, it would allow my JAMin to connect, but that was all. I went in the room where my desktop is, registered on the network there and bingo!
Too simple, should have tried that right away but it didn't occur to me at the time. Thanks for the help anyway Matterhorn!
In my nouse I have an WIFI network with WPA and WPA2. When I use encryption, even WEP, te connection is established but after a few seconds of data transfer, there is connection goes dead. I tested an open connection, a WEP 64, 128, WPA en WPA2 connection. All except the open unencrypted connection stop working after a few seconds. The Ameo keeps being connected to the accespoints, but there is no traffic anymore.
Has somebody else had this problem? I will try a hard reset to test it with a clean install.
Gerald
Hi there what make is your Access point? (is it a Belkin or Netgear possibly?)
Accespoints
I have a Zyxel 2602HW and a SMC2870W.
You've not got a 3G data session already established have you? I'm guessing its a WM5 'feature' rather than a specific Ameo fault, but if you're got 3G running, then connect to a Wireless Access Point, it gets itself all confused and tries to use the 3G connection for net access. I normally just quickly turn the phone service off and on, once the wifi service is running, via comm manager.
I've also noticed something else, where if I'm sending or receviing e-mail, and I'm already connected to the wifi point, it doesn't know to use the 3G connection rather than the wifi point to access the t-mobile servers. You have to close the wifi session before it is able to send/receive the messages (which don't always immediatly retry) but I'm guessing that maybe I could do something with routing on the Ameo. I need to get a grounding of the network stack on it before I can do it.
No, I tested it by putting it in flight mode and then enable wifi. When I do not use encryption, there is no problem. It works and I can watch ip televison. But when I use encryption, I cannot get a connection with whatever url within seconds. Only reconnect give me again a few seconds. It is frustrating. My MDA PRO and my DELL X30 do not have any problems at all.
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No, I tested it by putting it in flight mode and then enable wifi. When I do not use encryption, there is no problem. It works and I can watch ip televison. But when I use encryption, I cannot get a connection with whatever url within seconds. Only reconnect give me again a few seconds. It is frustrating. My MDA PRO and my DELL X30 do not have any problems at all.
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yeah i think it happended to me as well..i cannot get connected gor long...at always disconnected and connect again...
one more thing..my previous UNI it always auto detect..but not with dopod..
Compatibility
I found that the Athena is compatible with 3Com accesspoint but not with Zyxel or SMC. I use my neighboors 3Com and that worked. I decided to install my old 3Com Home Connect accesspoint and that one also worked. But the others do not. At this point it does not matter if I use encruption or not. Only the 3Com devices work. Does anybody hav another type of device that works?
Odyssey Access Client
I found this WPA/WPA2 client from Junipur http://download.juniper.net/software/aaa_802/public/oac/WM_Client_45/OdCeClientPPCSigned.ARMV4.CAB
If you have installed this install directly the following file and reset your device. ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Software/OdCl450CrOnlyFALLEN.cab
Now you will see that the Ameo will connect to the other accesspoints.
So you see there is a bug in the WIFI part of the radio rom!
No problem for me, i´m usung a netgear WG834GT for the moment.
Maybe my HTC X7500 Advantage has some other roms with the problems solved because it is swedish
Chill \Björn a.k.a Invalido
QAN said:
In my nouse I have an WIFI network with WPA and WPA2. When I use encryption, even WEP, te connection is established but after a few seconds of data transfer, there is connection goes dead. I tested an open connection, a WEP 64, 128, WPA en WPA2 connection. All except the open unencrypted connection stop working after a few seconds. The Ameo keeps being connected to the accespoints, but there is no traffic anymore.
Has somebody else had this problem? I will try a hard reset to test it with a clean install.
Gerald
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I have no problem using the WIFI. I'm normally able to see about four if I'm at home. The other access points are my neighbours', some of which are secured while others are'nt. If I connect to any one of them they tend to drop off after a while due to week signals. Even if I use my own within the house, the signal is weak sometimes, in which case, the system automatically goes to UMTS connection which is far far faster in my case (Because my WIFI's bottlenect is from the slow ADSL speed of 512kbs download speed max, and my phone, running at UMTS, has higher speed.
So, check the signal strength and see if this is the cause.
Since my works all the time, may be by showing you my wifi configuation for comparison might help.
I'm using WEP data encription. The network key is entered on start>setting>connection>Wi-Fi. I would see all the hot spots there. After I selected my own WIFI, I select connecting to the internet and press NEXT. In the next screen I chose Open WEP and untick automatic box. I then enter the network key which I obtain from my router administration screen on my PC.
That's it. I hope you have your problem resolved soon
Thanks for the info, but this is not my problem. I can connect to whatever accespoint. Only my neighbours accespoint makes it possible to connect to te internet. When I connect to my own network my ZYXEL is giving me troubles because it is blocking traffic after 10 seconds. It doesnot matter if connect to it by WIFI or using my SMC bridge that is connected bij LAN. It doesnot matter if I use encryption or not. Strange enough when I use Odyssey Access Client I can connect to the internet. I have to say that this is not always the case. The signal in my home is more than 80% for both WIFI gateways. Every other device I use, an MDA PRO and a DELL X30, do not have troubles when they want to connect to the internet. So I conclude that the WIFI on my Ameo is not completely compliant. This could be my device, te rom or my gateways. I do not think my gateways are the problem. Both are from different manufacturers.
Seems to me that I have a similar problem...
I got my Ameo yesterday and installed W-Lan. I'm using WAP encription. I get a very weak signal and have a very slow Internet connection (like in the "good-old 54k modem days" ;-). Sometimes there is even no response from the internet. Then I have to close W-Lan in the connection manager and to restart W-Lan again.
Dieter
That is exactly my problem. It works at the beginning but after a few seconds it looks like the Ameo is in quicksand. There is no information from the internet anymore that reaches the Opera browser. I tried Odessey Access Client with better results, but it does not work all the time.
@dieterpapa
What type of accespoint do you have?
i´m using a linksys wrtg router + an additional linksys range expander to cover my house completely.
what i´ve seen, too is that using the ameo about 3 mtrs to the expander i only get minimum w-lan signal.
do we perhaps have a problem with the antenna ?
@qan: how is your signal strength?
dieter
I have the same problem. gets connected no problem. I can download files from my pc. But leave it a few seconds to look at a web page then the connection drops I have to reconnect at com manager. never happend with my mda.
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Now you will see that the Ameo will connect to the other accesspoints.
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I had the same problems while connecting the Ameo to a Freebox (special router for French DSL offering, http://adsl.free.fr/wifi/).
After installing the programmes you listed (and restarting several times) I could connect with the new WiFi tool. Now sometimes I have problems when the programme thinks WiFi is disabled but in fact it is not, but this is only temporary.
Thanks!
Found Problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have finaly found the problem. I am sure the problem is within the rom of the Ameo. The problem is caused by the auto scaling feature of the processor. When the WIFI connects to an encrypted accesspoint the WIFI connection is not setup correctly. To prove this I have installed Pocket Hack Master and disabled the build-in scaling. After this my Ameo connect without any problem to the accesspoint and internet. This works with every processor frequency from 104Mhz up to 728Mhz. Yes at 728Mhz the Ameo is blazing fast. You won't recognize your device. Also after activating the scaling feature of PHM it still works. After disabeling PHM the connection went dead again.
You have to deactivate the build-in scaling before you activate the WIFI connection.
Lets hope someone can patch the rom or that this problem is not available within WM6.
Gerald
And how to disable internal scaling ?
Dieter
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And how to disable internal scaling ?
Dieter
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it's in the setting, disable internal scale
Thanks - found it in the hack master setting.
However my Ameo doesn't pass 728MHz - it hangs. Maximum is 663 MHz.
Dieter
My wizard has found my home router and has a strong signal but when i come to use msn messenger or ie it will not connect.
Any ideas?
'When connecting to a WiFi hotspot from a Windows Mobile device, you first turn on your wifi then the tower like arrow appears in the Start bar. Near the tower two oppositely pointed arrows keeps moving when connecting. These arrows should stay stationary meaning the network is successfuly connected. If you try using msn when the arrows are still moving, you'll end up seeing the device has no connection!
Regards,
Carty..
looking at the wifi it is active. i've checked the settings and it has a valid ip address but still will not connect.
but the gprs for t-mobile will let me connect but it costs £££.
Is your wireless router security encrypted??
Mine is.
If I connect to wifi on my device at home, it will ask for my encryption passkey. Then I tell it to save. From that point I can connect at home no problem. Now if I re-flash my rom and forget to enter my passkey, my Wizard will recognize my wireless router, but will not connect until I remember to re-enter my encryption passkey for my router onto my Wizard.
This may or may not be your problem, but I hope it helps.
PS- I created a simple text document with my passkey on it and saved it onto my SD, so now all I have to do is copy and paste the passkey. Makes life much easier.
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I set the network up and the only security on the network is MAC control.
It will not issue an IP address without a valid, recognised MAC.
My Trinity will access the wireless fine here but the Wizard won't.
Its issued with an IP, Gateway and DNS servers but won't access the net.
Same deal at another house where the network is WEP encrypted and the passkey is known.
I have the same problem. My Blue Angel works fine with WiFi on WEP, but my Wizard does not. If I disable all encryption, it works just fine. But I don't want to get rid of the encryption. Any ideas?