Anyone got HSDPA on T-Mobile UK PAYG? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

I got my M3100 unlocked and bought a T-Mobile PAYG sim so I could use their (excellent) Web n Walk package for internet access.
I like the fact that I pay £1 per day maximum.
What I don't like is that they won't set up HSDPA on my account. I called customer services and they said it can only be enabled on contract, not PAYG.
Now I know their CS aren't the most technically capable bunch, so I suspect it's possible I'm being given the run-around. Before I make a pain of myself, does anyone else have this set up on PAYG?
Cheers
Totallytechie

I had the same when I called TMO customer service. They will only enable HSDPA on contract apparently. If anybody knows how to get them to turn it on for us PAYG people, please speak up!
Stu

Anyone else?

I'm pretty sure they won't won't be able to do it for you. PAYG services are always crippled (only allowing one call at the same time for example).
If I were you I'd just go for contact, they've got some pretty dam decent deal at the mo and would work out cheaper if you were spedning that quid a day.

Its definitely cheaper to get a contract with TMobile.
Ive just signed up for the 1Gb web n walk contract which costs me £7.50 a month.
I've also got their cheapest FlexT contract which Im paying about £9 a month for.
I got a good rate on my FlexT contract because Ive been with TMobile for a couple years and I told them I didnt want an upgrade phone.
When you get a contract from TMobile, tell them you already have a phone and would like a discount.
My only gripe about web n walk is when retrieving a webpage it takes a while to connect and then locate the page.
Downloading large files is great though.

Don. said:
Ive just signed up for the 1Gb web n walk contract which costs me £7.50 a month.QUOTE]
I thought the webn'walk flext plan was Unlimited surfing, not 1GB?
According to their T&C's:
Fair use policy applies: Flext + web 'n' walk price plans provide unlimited internet browsing on mobile handsets in the UK. To ensure a high quality of service for all our customers, they are not to be used for other activities such as (but not limited to): modem access for computers, internet based video/audio streaming services, peer to peer file sharing, internet based video download and internet based telephony. If such use is detected, notice may be given, after which network protection controls may be applied which will result in a reduced speed of transmission.
Please tell me there isn't a hidden T-mobile T&C that states it actually equates to 1gb a month use?
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g00nerz said:
Don. said:
Ive just signed up for the 1Gb web n walk contract which costs me £7.50 a month.QUOTE]
I thought the webn'walk flext plan was Unlimited surfing, not 1GB?
According to their T&C's:
Fair use policy applies: Flext + web 'n' walk price plans provide unlimited internet browsing on mobile handsets in the UK. To ensure a high quality of service for all our customers, they are not to be used for other activities such as (but not limited to): modem access for computers, internet based video/audio streaming services, peer to peer file sharing, internet based video download and internet based telephony. If such use is detected, notice may be given, after which network protection controls may be applied which will result in a reduced speed of transmission.
Please tell me there isn't a hidden T-mobile T&C that states it actually equates to 1gb a month use?
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Yes, all the wnw "unlimited" services have a "fair use" provision.
Standard - 1GB, Plus - 3GB, Max - 10GB.
So they're all "unlimited", just with a varying definition of the word "unlimited".
Similarly, I am offering unlimited* beer for £5. *Fair use policy of 1 pint per person applies. Additional cost per pint after this is £5/glass.
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g00nerz said:
Yes, all the wnw "unlimited" services have a "fair use" provision.
Standard - 1GB, Plus - 3GB, Max - 10GB.
So they're all "unlimited", just with a varying definition of the word "unlimited".
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And just to clairfy those limits include both the sent and recieved data not just the received data like landline broadband operates on.
I'm on the Plus package and will be interested to see what I get through in a month being someone who needs net access where ever I go for my job.
However T Mobile dont port block ie if on the Plus package Skype works when I have the TyTn working as a 3G/Edge modem with my laptop and people have called me although I havent spoken to anyone becuase I havent carried my headset around with me.
Whilst they could block known ports for VoIP, things like MSN Messenger Live which operates as a text and VoIP system would be more difficult to police and if I Remote Access into a system that has say Skype installed on it I see no reason for the Skype functions to not transfer to my lapto.
Besides they have gone on the record to say they dont port block or penalise heavy users that have gone over their limits... yet!!
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Paying too much for cingular data!!!

Ok guys here is whats going on. I have been talking to Jacob and a few others on the board about cingular data plans with the 8125.
They had me on the dtcnulrn or something like that for 60 buckas a month. Also I had media net bundle on there for unlimited text messages! I was paying over 100 bucks a month for a normal bill.
Now jacob said to just use media max and cancle everything else because Cingular can't tell the difference between using a smart phone or using a phone that uses media net and that it was all just unlimited internet access.
So what are your thoughts and concerns about me doing this. I have tried to check my data usage since i switched but it tells me I cant get this data untill the next billing cycle on dec 10th. thanks for any input!
Jeb
its me! check over @ howardforums.com and go into the cingular section. there are tons of people posting what they do. between this forum and hofo i dont need any other mobile forum site!
It's not worth the $$$, Cingular and Tmo now has HSDPA speed and their charging way too much for even the slowest GPRS service. I wish the FCC would deregulate the data portion of GSM cell towers so other, cheaper companies would flood in and offer data only SIMS at more resonable prices.
Move to South Africa then, you might enjoy it here ! We pay R2.00/meg. When it comes to data connections i think sa is one of the most expensive countries.
Well I am on a Business plan with Telstra in Australia and if you go PAYG on the data side you are charged 50c per KB!!!!!!! Then on the $29 data pack I am on you only get 70mb of data for $29!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Q] o2 are about to limit the data

Does anyone know if its true that they are going to limit us to 500mb ?
Yes, that's why I have changed O2 provider to Three.
this is for new contracts only, if you are on unlimited then it is for the time of your contract
there has always been a 'fair usage' policy of 500 or 750mb (dependant on your contract) per month, so to be honest, not a lot has changed other than the fact it isn't just in the small print now.
I was sceptical that 1GB was going to be enough for my purposes
when I signed up to Virgin mobile,but after a few months use
I never get anywhere near using that much,for instance
this month I have only used 183MB and that is including
an evenings use as WiFi routing to my laptop when I lost my
Virgin media connection.
I have to admit that most of the time I am able to find a WiFi signal
to connect the HD2 hence the low usage.
the only ones that are going to get anywhere near 500meg a month are ones that use phone as modems when tethering (which is against the o2 t&c) or as a wifi router or who stream from youtube daily
the most i used in a month was about 300meg and that was accidentally streaming from tvcatchup when i thought it was on wifi
best way to carry on geting unlimited data is to not upgrade or change the tariff, just let it carry on running after the 18/24month. then o2 cant change anything as u havent signed up to it your original t&c still apply.
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best way to carry on geting unlimited data is to not upgrade or change the tariff, just let it carry on running after the 18/24month. then o2 cant change anything as u havent signed up to it your original t&c still apply.
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Best to check with them as to your normal actual usage, if it's normally always over the new imposed limit, then sure it makes sense to never change your contract, but for most people the new limits aren't an issue.
Personally I think it's mostly to beat ASA/Ofcom forcing them to drop the "unlimited" tag line as it never was unlimited.
Expect to see home broadband providers following suit in the future.
It's much better from a business point of view to show that you don't need regulation by doing what the regulators want before they ask you to.
What??? Only 500mb for data? Is that a daily limit?
I wouldn't be able to handle that. I got throttled by tmous last month for hitting my 5gb soft cap. And no, I didn't do any tethering last month.
I'm sure I could use wifi when available, but most wifi's are slower than my hspa+ data. And why should I use wifi? I'm paying for the data. I'll probably push it to the max every month.
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What??? Only 500mb for data? Is that a daily limit?
I wouldn't be able to handle that. I got throttled by tmous last month for hitting my 5gb soft cap. And no, I didn't do any tethering last month.
I'm sure I could use wifi when available, but most wifi's are slower than my hspa+ data. And why should I use wifi? I'm paying for the data. I'll probably push it to the max every month.
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Only 3% of O2's users go over 500MB a month.
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Only 3% of O2's users go over 500MB a month.
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Most of them use Apple stuff.
I hear that Virgin are looking to increase the limit (at a price I suspose) and drop it down to 500mg to those who are happy with it. Virgin have a hard cap - and charge you if you go over and its not cheap

3rd party U.K. T-Mobile data contracts crippled.

Warning this may apply to YOU already. If you have bought your phone from a third party vendor and not direct (and even now direct) from T-Mobile then simply download a speedtest app and check your speeds. HSDPA down should be around 1800kbs minimum, HSUPA up should be 500kbs minimum
If you are about to buy from a 3rd party retailer take heed.
I bought a SGS on 24 month contract with T-Mobile (other network providers seem to follow the same system) from buymobilephones.net. While sitting with my daughter I realised just how slow my data connection was when trying to access the net. She is also on T-Mobile purchased direct. After using Speedtest I discoverred I had 1/10th her download speed and 1/100th her upload speed. This on what appeared to be the same contract.
After contacting T-Mobile they told me that it was nothing to do with them but it was because I had a free unlimited internet bolt on and as it was supplied by a 3rd party retailer my complaint could not be escalated to a higher tier and that they would not deal with it. Effectively they said it was the retailers problem not theirs. Also they said that OFCOM and CICAS have had several complaints along the same lines but did not do anything about them. In other words "contact OFCOM or CICAS if you want but they can do nothing"
So be warned. Buy from a 3rd party and your data will be crippled and you can do nothing about it except pay an additional fee for another Unlimited internet bolt on.
Phone up and say you have an Android phone and you only have 1GB capped internet and not 3GB like they say. If they say you didn't buy it directly from T-mobile you can't have 3GB like it says in the T&Cs, say the T&Cs say nothing about capped internet.
Note most in the phone center aren't aware you're meant to get it directly from T-mobile. What they should do is switch you to Web Walk Plus then let you choose another booster instead of internet.
If this doesn't work, try a T-mobile store, they don't know whether you bought it directly from them or not.
Thanks for the suggestions but I am sure they will soon catch on to this (if they have not already) and many others will be caught out. There must be hundreds if not thousands already out there many of whom will not have a clue that they are not getting the data speeds that they believe they are paying for.
Anyone who want to see the current position on this look here:
http://samsunggalaxysforums.com/showthread.php/2621-3rd-party-U.K.-T-Mobile-data-contracts-crippled.
Not a good read I'm afraid.
I have deleted this post to add an apology.
It turns out T-Mobile have added a speed cap on the new WnW 1GB soc. I went through ALL T 'n' C's and could only find that a 50Kb speed cap is issued to Mobile Broadband Plus Daily. So I made a few phone calls and was told that HSPDA is also capped to 1.8Mb on the WnW + soc. They also told me that the WnW soc has this cap as it is only ment for browsing and emails and is not classed as Mobile Broadband and the FUP does not permit any activity which these speeds are needed. See here
The 3Gb soc that T-Mobile gives for free is a deal closer to promote going to T-Mobile direct which as I knew was always the case. However they never once mentioned speeds of connection.
I also found out something that I never knew. The Android WnW + soc is not the same as the Mobile Broadband + soc (which used to be called wnw +) and does not permit tethering.
Anyway these are the facts and sorry for providing the wrong information.
n1kon
I still recommend phoning up acting dumb asking why you're only on 1GB and capped. Don't mention your didn't get it from them directly.
Also I read when I made a thread about this, T-mobile stores do not know where you got your phone from, so they will fix it.
Also in the T&Cs it says you can have 3GB if you order over the phone, say nothing about directly through T-mobile on the phone.
I pay £18.75 a month and I now get 600 mins, properly unlimited texts and 3GB internet, instead of 500 texts and 1GB capped internet.
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I will say this only once. Dont read that thread on that link it is all crap. WnW + is a booster to increase the permitted download limit to 3GB per month it has nothing to do with speed of connection hsdpa is enabled by device not booster the only difference between wnw and wnw+ is 2GB of downloads. Do not tell me im wrong as ive been working for t-mobile for near on 7 years. When you sign a contract its for the airtime not the device. Ofcause your going to get no help of something that was not supplied by us. Would you go into mcdonalds and moan about you kfc? No!
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You clearly know more than me, and I do mean that, but...
Numerous people have experienced the slow download problem including me. The only way I can reconcile what you state above and the numerous problems with the 1gb allowance and speed is the device or how it's set-up on the system.
I knew about the 1gb/3gb 3rd party problem before I purchased, so I decided only to look at deals direct from T-mobile. When I got the phone, I couldn't tell which allowance I had as I had no web 'n' walk + on the "My-T-mobile" section of the website. So I downloaded a speedtest app as other people mentioned my speed would be capped.
The app always showed a speed of around 300kps, so I called T-mobile. They had my device as a Galaxy S, but only 1gb allowance. They changed it to 3gb, and the speed went to 1.8mps immediately and I still get around that speed now.
I've still got no web 'n' walk + on the "My-T-mobile" section but the twitter team tell me it won't show but I have it. I downloaded 2gb to check and I got no messages about any allowance. Something is happening somewhere, as my speed increased as soon as my allowance went from 1gb to 3gb.
Also, this is no reflection on you, but some staff at t-mobile are not great to put it politely. I had to speak to two people to get someone who knew that android phones get 3gb not 1gb. Then I discovered that in the internet header information sent to websites, my mobile phone number was included. After speaking to technical support at t-mobile they told me that this was OK, and there was nothing they could do about it anyway. One quick post about the problem on T-mobile forums, where other people also complained and it was quickly solved. It effectived all Galaxy users as the forum didn't have my account details, but it was solved straight away despite the technical team saying they couldn't.
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Ofcause your going to get no help of something that was not supplied by us. Would you go into mcdonalds and moan about you kfc? No!
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Sorry forgot one more thing. There was a time just before I purchased my Galaxy that the terms on T-mobile, did not say anything about only getting 3gb if purchased directly. It just said if you had a T-mobile android phone you would get 3gb.
But they were still refusing people who purchased through a third party 3gb, despite it not being mentioned in the conditions. In your example that's like McDonalds advertising a KFC deal that didn't exist, and you could quite happily complain to McDonalds.
Eventually they changed the conditions to what they say now. I think it changed around July/August time
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I will say this only once. Dont read that thread on that link it is all crap. WnW + is a booster to increase the permitted download limit to 3GB per month it has nothing to do with speed of connection hsdpa is enabled by device not booster the only difference between wnw and wnw+ is 2GB of downloads. Do not tell me im wrong as ive been working for t-mobile for near on 7 years. When you sign a contract its for the airtime not the device. Ofcause your going to get no help of something that was not supplied by us. Would you go into mcdonalds and moan about you kfc? No!
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You really should look into these things before you jump and make a fool of yourself.
Emails from T-Mobile.
Good morning Roger
We do understand your position, we have had other buymobilephones.net as well as customer from other online resellers approach us in the same manor as they we’re not provisioned with the same data package that a customer purchasing direct from T-Mobile would be.
It appears you have uncapped 3G speeds, which is standard across the internet on your phone’ booster, the provision of HSDPA included with ‘internet on your phone plus’ booster however, will only come as standard on Android devices purchased directly from T-Mobile or at an additional monthly cost.
Best regards
Barry
T-Mobile twitter team
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Good morning Rev Pitman,
I can see from your email conversation with David that you have contacted us about your Samsung Galaxy S experiencing slow speeds. As we have provisioned your account with the maximum 3G speed, up to 356kbs, it would appear that your phone is functioning as normal and as per the terms and conditions of your contract. If you wish to purchase the Web’n’walk plus booster for an additional monthly charge this will enable HSDPA speeds. You can purchase this within My T-Mobile.
Kind Regards
Stefan
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Hi Roger,
I cannot escalate this on for unfortunately nor do I have the power to give you the HSDPA access you are looking for. This is due to the reason that although you have a phone using the T-Mobile service, you have accepted a contract through a third party provider and are subject to the deal that you have agreed to with them. You will not find the paragraph you have copied and pasted below on Buymobilephones.net as this will not exist with them.
There have been cases like this passed to OFCOM and CISAS by customers but they have never been upheld due to this. If it is on the T-Mobile website we will uphold it if you buy from there but as you are experiencing we do not provide these features when purchased through third parties.
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The passage referred to;
“Pay monthly plans which include internet on your phone on an Android phone
You'll get internet on your phone Plus included if you join us on a pay monthly plan with an Android phone in a T-Mobile store, over the phone or via our website, t-mobile.co.uk. You'll need internet coverage, check it at t-mobile.co.uk/streetcheck. Remember that you can only use your internet on your phone Plus Booster in the UK and you can't use your phone as a modem or use Internet on your phone Plus for peer to peer file sharing, or making internet phone calls. *Internet on your phone Plus comes with a fair use policy of 3GB a month. We'll monitor how much you send and receive each calendar month so that we can protect our network for all our internet on your customers. If you use more than your fair use policy amount, we won't charge you any more, but we may restrict how you can use your plan, depending on how often you go over your amount and by how much. As your phone is always connected to the internet, if you remove your internet on your phone Plus Booster from your account you'll automatically be charged up to £1 every day. That £1 a day rate has its own fair use policy and other legal stuff, which you can see here: t-mobile.co.uk/services/uk/fairuse/#fup5. “
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My Network contract is with T-Mobile, I get my bills from T-Mobile, I access my account through www.T-Mobile.com/uk but the phone was bought through a 3rd party. The only reference given by the supplier OR T-Mobile is to the download data limit amount. Nowhere does it mention capping speeds.
They will tell u anything. My account only has 1gb as im using my blackberry sim but my speeds are hsdpa. The forum team also told people they were testing froyo when samsung had not even released it. Even apple said that there signal issues were software related but gave away free cases to fix it and the guy that designed the iphone 4 no longer works for them. You will beleave what people tell you coz u know no different. Android are not the only devices to use hsdpa but are the only devices to have free 3GB data. Other devices with standard wnw still hit full hsdpa. Or so i thought.
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They admitted on the phone to me that the internet booster is around 300kbps, which is what I got. They immediately switched me, then I got over 1mbps.
OP I suggest dialing the T-mobile number (150) on your phone, and talking to someone who is unaware it does not apply if you have a third party phone, or going to the store like I said.
Someone who works for T-mobile said they don't know if you got it directly from them.
edit: Also should I contact them about sending my phone number in the HTTP headers?
They admitted on the phone to me that the internet booster is around 300kbps, which is what I got. They immediately switched me, then I got over 1mbps.
OP I suggest dialing the T-mobile number (150) on your phone, and talking to someone who is unaware it does not apply if you have a third party phone, or going to the store like I said.
Someone who works for T-mobile said they don't know if you got it directly from them.
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Thank you again for the suggestion but as you may have noticed I do have an integrity to uphold. This does not say you do not yourself just that mine has to be seen to be upheld.
edit: Also should I contact them about sending my phone number in the HTTP headers?
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Not sure what that means?
The thing is people don't have to believe what I have said blind. They can download Speedtest for themselves. Get a full HSPDA signal (H showing with full bars) and run the test. Then they can contact T-Mobile themselves and get the same answer I did when they find their speed is capped to 350kbs. I suppose as you work for them (in PR maybe or sales?) you have a vested interest.
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The thing is people don't have to believe what I have said blind. They can download Speedtest for themselves. Get a full HSPDA signal (H showing with full bars) and run the test. Then they can contact T-Mobile themselves and get the same answer I did when they find their speed is capped to 350kbs. I suppose as you work for them (in PR maybe or sales?) you have a vested interest.
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I will check on this on wednesday when im back in. The only thing i can think of right know to why some people are having issues is that there is a hidden soc that auto deploys when connected through domino. I have 2 sims 1 with 1GB (blackberry) and 1 with 3GB (sgs) and both speeds are the same when i put them in my sgs.
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edit: Also should I contact them about sending my phone number in the HTTP headers?
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I would. That sound like a security issue to me.
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I'm not sure if it actually happens to me just saw it earlier in the thread. Maybe it's because your 1GB is Web n Walk and not Internet Booster?
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I will say this only once. Dont read that thread on that link it is all crap. WnW + is a booster to increase the permitted download limit to 3GB per month it has nothing to do with speed of connection hsdpa is enabled by device not booster the only difference between wnw and wnw+ is 2GB of downloads. Do not tell me im wrong as ive been working for t-mobile for near on 7 years. When you sign a contract its for the airtime not the device. Ofcause your going to get no help of something that was not supplied by us. Would you go into mcdonalds and moan about you kfc? No!
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Actually, you're partly wrong there, n1kon. T=Mobile does cap the speed on anyone who has not bought their android phone direct from T-Mobile. They don't cap those who are on the 3Gb FUP. Those on the 1Gb FUP are capped at 3G speeds. It's no longer possible to buy an android phone from a reseller with the 3Gb FUP, as that is only available directly from T-Mobile. It used to be the case that if you phoned up and created a big fuss, they'd move you over to the 3Gb FUP and enable HSDPA on your line. It's not so easy to get them to do that now. However, I'd say people who didn't buy direct from T-Mobile still have room to argue it, as T-Mobile's own Terms and Conditions refer only to the FUP limit, and not to capped data transfer speeds.
I am telling you that you are wrong, even though you have worked for T-Mobile for however long. T-Mobile's technical support removed the cap on my account whilst I was on the phone to them. The guy in question then spent the next 20 minutes running speeds tests on his phone as I ran them on mine. The difference we're talking about is having HSDPA enabled on your account, or being limited to 3G. That is down to T-Mobile and not the handset.
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That should have stopped now, mine has and it's also stopped for the people who reported it to T-mobile.
Go here to test it though, if it shows your phone number, ring them:
http://whatsmyuseragent.com/
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I dont need to prove myself to you as I have tested this a know this to be FACT. I dont care if you dont believe what I have to say ether.
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I agree with those sentiments and believe you do have HSDPA speeds on a 1GB FUP tarriff. However, my personal experience is that when I got my SGS I couldn't download at more than approx 350kpbs, despite the phone showing a HSDPA connection. After a few dismal experiences where I could download anything at all when in town shopping (due to the network being overloaded) I made a to CS to explain that although I accepted the 1GB fup, there was no mention in their t&c's anywhere that they might limit the download speeds and therefore they should remove any such limits asap. Less than a minute later I could download at 2Mbps and since then I have not had any problems using my phone when out about, even in places where it was unusable previously.
I'm on Tmobile from buymobilephones.net... will have to find out if my rate is limited. What speedtester do people recommend?

[Q] Atrix on orange - mobile internet limit

Im with o2 at the moment. With unlimited internet.
I want this phone and being in the uk i have to move to orange is my undertanding. Orange do not offer unlimited internet. They give 500mb.
I know no one will be able to give me a definate answer but is this enough. Out and about i dont do to much browsing. A bit of the old youtube and maybe the occasional app download.
How do other people find this limit?
There are different data plans on Orange, but it seems none with unlimited data, but some plans do involve 750MB (starting from Panther 30 plan) or 1GB (starting from Panther 45 plan).
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Im with o2 at the moment. With unlimited internet.
I want this phone and being in the uk i have to move to orange is my undertanding. Orange do not offer unlimited internet. They give 500mb.
I know no one will be able to give me a definate answer but is this enough. Out and about i dont do to much browsing. A bit of the old youtube and maybe the occasional app download.
How do other people find this limit?
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I would say I am an average user, and my total usage this month I estimate at 2.5GB data/2.5GB WiFi. I could give you accurate numbers, but I wipe my phone so often to try the wonderful things our devs do for us that my counters reset all the time.
My usage on WiFi is primarily downloading and updating applications after a clean wipe. I don't surf a whole lot, but was surprised when I saw how much usage can jump while surfing.
All in all 500MB per month is in my mind for "emergency" use only, as you could very easily hit that limit with what might be considered minimal usage. If I were you I would go with the 1Gb plan at a minimum if it is available.
I use my phone for email, twitter and light Internet when out and about, occasionally teathering to my laptop, and I'm told by orange I've not gone over about 400mb in the last year. If you stream a lot of video or music then I'd say you'd need more than 500. Some plans also come with BT Openzone so might be worth getting that to use on hotspots.
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I use my phone for email, twitter and light Internet when out and about, occasionally teathering to my laptop, and I'm told by orange I've not gone over about 400mb in the last year. If you stream a lot of video or music then I'd say you'd need more than 500. Some plans also come with BT Openzone so might be worth getting that to use on hotspots.
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just curious... how do you find the download speed on orange? iv not canx my orange contract yet but have gone to o2... but the signals sooo poor versus orange im looking to upgrade on orange and theres only 2 phones i like... the sgs2 which i have... but very poor battery and drops signal when you pick up the phone or the atrix
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just curious... how do you find the download speed on orange? iv not canx my orange contract yet but have gone to o2... but the signals sooo poor versus orange im looking to upgrade on orange and theres only 2 phones i like... the sgs2 which i have... but very poor battery and drops signal when you pick up the phone or the atrix
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Download speed seems fine. Occasionally data drops for no reason, but soon seems to come back. No better or worse than any other network from what I can see, just depends on the reception in your area. Also, I've had really good experiences with Orange phone insurance in the past. Seems cheaper than other networks and is a next day replacement phone service (even after I dropped mine in the sea!).
rtatts said:
Im with o2 at the moment. With unlimited internet.
I want this phone and being in the uk i have to move to orange is my undertanding. Orange do not offer unlimited internet. They give 500mb.
I know no one will be able to give me a definate answer but is this enough. Out and about i dont do to much browsing. A bit of the old youtube and maybe the occasional app download.
How do other people find this limit?
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I switched from an unlimited internet tariff on O2 (N1) to the Panther 35 (750 mb) last week. I'd been tracking my monthly usage as averaging about 400mb per month for the last 4 / 5 months in expectation of shifting tariffs &/or network this year..
500mb is enough for browsing and some social network but i would avoid streaming anything including youtube for the first month or so to see how much you use. download a app call 3G watchdog, it will monitor your data usage.

Tethering with T-mobile's unlimited plan for someone stuck out in the boonies

So here's my situation.... I work at a company that has a large data plan with US Cellular for 6 devices. One of these devices is used by the owner of the company at his home to provide him with his main source of internet as there are no other good options in the rural area in which he lives (satellite is not an option, as they are overpriced and cannot provide reliable internet for online gaming due to the long ping time). He watches a lot of Netflix and this last month used almost 90 GB or so on his line alone... This resulted in a massive overage charge...like $1,000 massive....
Time for a change..... so the only companies that offer any sort of "unlimited" data are T-mobile, and AT&T. The data options at T-mobile are basically you pay $95 per month and get "unlimited" data.... meaning 22GB of data before it is throttled, and only 15GB of data can be used for tethering.... I find this to be complete BS..... I would be willing to pay $200 per month if I had to to get around 100GB of data... simply put NO ONE will offer that... they all want to rape you... they simply will not provide me with a plan that works.... So I've looked at the methods people used to use to get around the tethering restriction with T-mobile, either by changing the APN settings, or using a VPN.... apparently these methods do not work anymore??? Can someone shed some light as to what DOES work as of TODAY 3/30/16, and what my options are as far as workarounds??? Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
Only need any 3GB hot spot T-mobile plan for binge feature
Rustycage835 said:
So here's my situation.... I work at a company that has a large data plan with US Cellular for 6 devices. One of these devices is used by the owner of the company at his home to provide him with his main source of internet as there are no other good options in the rural area in which he lives (satellite is not an option, as they are overpriced and cannot provide reliable internet for online gaming due to the long ping time). He watches a lot of Netflix and this last month used almost 90 GB or so on his line alone... This resulted in a massive overage charge...like $1,000 massive....
Time for a change..... so the only companies that offer any sort of "unlimited" data are T-mobile, and AT&T. The data options at T-mobile are basically you pay $95 per month and get "unlimited" data.... meaning 22GB of data before it is throttled, and only 15GB of data can be used for tethering.... I find this to be complete BS..... I would be willing to pay $200 per month if I had to to get around 100GB of data... simply put NO ONE will offer that... they all want to rape you... they simply will not provide me with a plan that works.... So I've looked at the methods people used to use to get around the tethering restriction with T-mobile, either by changing the APN settings, or using a VPN.... apparently these methods do not work anymore??? Can someone shed some light as to what DOES work as of TODAY 3/30/16, and what my options are as far as workarounds??? Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
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Im not here to sell tmobile, honest, but... The way it works is that if you have a t-mobile plan that has at least 3GB of hotspot data, then if you are at participating partner web sites, the data usage will not be added to your phones usage count. They will provide a list of sites that partner into this. Most are movie/video streaming sites.This includes netflix, youtube, hulu, and so many other video streaming and tv network sites. If your favorite is not on the list, you can request it.
Just for for the current time until you find a solution that resolves the entire needs that he may have, this may keep his costs in line if most of the usage is from these sites. I do not know about the data usage from the ads from these sites. I just learned of this and have not tested it out. The online documentation is straight forward.
Really curious why every question how to hide tethering gets ignored on xda

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