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I live in Hong Kong. From my estimate, the O2 will sell in Hong Kong in December 2005. I want to get the Universal to be first in Hong Kong. Do I buy the Universal from expansys.com or wait the offical selling in Hong Kong?
If you want to be the first you don't have much choice but to get it from somewhere else other than O2!
I'm in the same boat as you are... No warranty and ugly looking Jasjar But on the other hand, the wait is killing me too....
XDA EXEC
Hi in answer to your question, i would only consider the O2 XDA EXEC,i have seen both devices,the XDA EXEC looks way better than the Imate Jasjar.
In addition the XDA EXEC will be tested more...O2 have better support + the O2 active service installed in the phone really inhances the device.
At the end of the day i Know its hard to wait...but i promise you will not be dissapointed this device really sets new standards.
O2 vs JasJar
Disagree with you on some points, firstly, o2 Active is a complete waste of time, been on 02 3years since xda 1 and always dumped it. For Guarantee, they're both about the same, 1 year, so no benefits there. I have also owned an Imate and their customer support was fine, no worse or better then o2. Rom Upgrades are much faster at imate, less bureauracy, and that is a big plus. And if you want to, you can always put an o2 rom later.
Jasjar is a terrible name, and will be more expensive than o2, always. They cannot subsidize like o2 can, not a big difference, so waitin 3-6 weeks you'll get it cheaper for sure.
O2 vs JasJar
Disagree with you on some points, firstly, o2 Active is a complete waste of time, been on 02 3years since xda 1 and always dumped it. For Guarantee, they're both about the same, 1 year, so no benefits there. I have also owned an Imate and their customer support was fine, no worse or better then o2. Rom Upgrades are much faster at imate, less bureauracy, and that is a big plus. And if you want to, you can always put an o2 rom later.
Jasjar is a terrible name, and will be more expensive than o2, always. They cannot subsidize like o2 can, not a big difference, so waitin 3-6 weeks you'll get it cheaper for sure.
Mark,
You can preorder Qtek from expansys. The price a bit cheaper.
You can check here.
http://www.expansys.com.hk/product.asp?code=125550
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fanacreonte2804 said:
Hi in answer to your question, i would only consider the O2 XDA EXEC,i have seen both devices,the XDA EXEC looks way better than the Imate Jasjar.
In addition the XDA EXEC will be tested more...O2 have better support + the O2 active service installed in the phone really inhances the device.
At the end of the day i Know its hard to wait...but i promise you will not be dissapointed this device really sets new standards.
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I bet I can guess who you work for , but I must say the exec is much easier on the eyes.
Not sure
I think they really are 100% the same, unless you really are a tosser and care about device color...
Warranty 1 year
Rom: within a month, you'll put whatever you want in, no big deal active
o2 Active, Useless (Unless someone wants to convince me otherwise)
Price: 100% o2 will be cheaper, it always is. I will always buy these under contract, they are cheaper + you get minutes which I can throw away.
Buying O2
Buying O2 guarantees you a few things:
1) O2 active will be available, and if installed (which at least is optional on the exec without needing silly corporate codes) it will make your device crash much more than devices that dont have it. I have no confidence that O2 will sort out the O2 active issues that exist on the XDA IIs
2) You will wait *eons* for firmware updates. O2 are still shipping devices with BT build 3500, rom 1.31.00, radio: 1.06. They are now about 6 versions behind and there is no news of whether there will *ever* be an official update to the latest and greatest. For the record, BT3900, rom 1.41, and radio 1.12 are the latest.
3) You will get a cheaper device than if you bought it elsewhere.
So.... if you buy O2 then be prepaired to hack around with it, cook your own roms, and rely on timely updates from *other* vendors (which will need to be hacked for the O2 XDA) to fix the bugs on your exec.
O2 do not aknowledge or fix bugs on their devices period.
Nigel
I agree 100%
Exec will be considerably cheaper, but you'll get screwed on support. Even more true for T-Mobile, they are the most agressive guys, u wiull save a lot if you are patient.
For example I bought 13 T-mobile MDA's for 235GBP (purchase price + contract), and flipped on ebay for 320GBP. Now I have cancelled my contract and am getting 446GBP back, paying for JasJar....
So, buying through an agressive operator is always cheaper because they factor in that you will be spending more then you're contract....guess I didn't
Getting it from O2 doesn't offer much advantages; All O2 settings can be obtained from their site or the net; O2 active is useless, I always get rid of it in all my O2 pocket pcs; waste of memory. I bought the jamjar on an o2 contract costing 320GBP, paying 25GBP per month for 100min and 100text which works out to 620GBP. I don't think waiting for the exec itself will give a more significant discount. 320 quid for the device sounds fair enough considering it costs over 600GBP sim free at the moment; some shops sell it at 700GBP!
Did the same
Paid 660 GBP for 250 minutes on o2 and the phone for one year. Not bad? (I already have 500 minutes from o2 for 15GBP per month, but I figured can keep the 250 minutes for guests)
It is pre-order only.
1. Expansys is on pre-order stage.
2. Expansys cannot provide the handset warranty.
3. The price is about 700GBP
I am only wait for O2 Exec.
Hemant said:
Mark,
You can preorder Qtek from expansys. The price a bit cheaper.
You can check here.
http://www.expansys.com.hk/product.asp?code=125550
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What is the price of the O2 Exec from O2 UK for handset only(Sim free)? Who can help me to reply this post?
Thanks!!!!!!
Are you really gonna wait for the O2 XDA Exec in Hong Kong?
I have just been told that Universal will not appear in Hong Kong under O2 brand - the distributor will introduce it as Dopod 900.
Wait and see - October 2005.
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mikeycollins13 said:
I think they really are 100% the same, unless you really are a tosser and care about device color...
Warranty 1 year
Rom: within a month, you'll put whatever you want in, no big deal active
o2 Active, Useless (Unless someone wants to convince me otherwise)
Price: 100% o2 will be cheaper, it always is. I will always buy these under contract, they are cheaper + you get minutes which I can throw away.
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Making him care about the colour on a device that costs £600+gbp makes him a tosser?Would you like a **** brown with pink spots coloured ferrari?
Personally I would wait for the Exec.
I like the O2 colors better than the grey MDA ones - this is just and aesthetic issue. Functional-wise I think you should wait because there are problems with apps that are not compatible yet with WM5, therefore you might not be able to use all the apps which you have purchased (or downloaded as freeware) to run on your device,so your gaming/productivity/communication/entertainment might be impaired
1. Are you sure the O2 Exec will not release in HK?
2. After to read some posts, I want to wait O2 Exec released in Hong Kong rather than to buy imate/MDA Pro from overseas/Internet(expansys or www.pocketpc.com.hk).
shu_sum said:
Are you really gonna wait for the O2 XDA Exec in Hong Kong?
I have just been told that Universal will not appear in Hong Kong under O2 brand - the distributor will introduce it as Dopod 900.
Wait and see - October 2005.
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There's one problem with the O2 exec, at least in the UK - O2! They're rubbish in every sense. I used to be a customer of theirs and I had to phone them EVERY MONTH when they double billed me. They never sorted this out despite my repeated atempts and they're repeated promises. You'll also spend 15 minutes on hold when you call them. Their customer service is completly ineefctual and, as mentioned elsewhere, bug fixes and rom updates are almost non-existant. I'm told they also have poorer 3G coverage in the UK than the likes of Voda.
I bought a JasJar (and paid prolly about £70 more than if I had bought an Exec on O2) soley becuase it meant i didn't have to use O2!
But I agree the exec looks nicer. There is also some concern over the JasJar not having a keybaord backlight - I'll be able to confirm or deny in a couple of days when my order arrives.
Hi all. I'm looking to purchase a Wizard when I go to Hong Kong this January.
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I was wondering if the Wizard is available in stores already [i.e. like WAN CHAI COMP CENTER or FORTRESS]
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I need a device in English [so the keyboard will be in QWERTY]
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If it is not available in stores yet then maybe I'll order off Expansys HK and just claim it when I'm there...
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Any HK peeps out here? Your input will be welcome and appreciated...
In hk, the dopod838(htc wizard) is your only choice.
you dont need to worry too much.
Eng and chi version are both available in market.
You can get one from any store.
Because most people target on Dopod818 pro and o2 Atom.
Anyway, the market place is around $6100 hk dollar.
Do u need any other information?
Maybe i can get you a hand.
Wow HKD 6100! At Expansys HK the Qtek 9100 is listed at HKD 5580 that is around HKD 520 difference.
Would you happen to know where the cheapest English dopod 838 is being sold? TIA
bnycastro said:
Wow HKD 6100! At Expansys HK the Qtek 9100 is listed at HKD 5580 that is around HKD 520 difference.
Would you happen to know where the cheapest English dopod 838 is being sold? TIA
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well if the hk local warranty is not a concern, i'll suggest u get 9100 or kjam instead. ( for me they came with much better outlook than dopod )
williamchan_hksar said:
well if the hk local warranty is not a concern, i'll suggest u get 9100 or kjam instead. ( for me they came with much better outlook than dopod )
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HK warranty is not really an issue for me. My main concern would be ROM updates I've been to the dopod website and it's all in Chinese, it leaves me wondering how frequent the English OS devices will get their updates.
bnycastro said:
williamchan_hksar said:
well if the hk local warranty is not a concern, i'll suggest u get 9100 or kjam instead. ( for me they came with much better outlook than dopod )
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HK warranty is not really an issue for me. My main concern would be ROM updates I've been to the dopod website and it's all in Chinese, it leaves me wondering how frequent the English OS devices will get their updates.
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since dopod is focus on chinese market, do u think it's better to just get qtek or imate ?
yeah. that and the fact that the qtek would be HKD 500 cheaper is really a plus factor
Just placed my order at expansys hk and they did not accept my credit card [maybe because I am from Manila, Philippines] anyway I would like to ask our Hong Kong brothers and sisters... is the Qtek 9100 available in retail outlets? i.e. Fortress or Wan Chai computer center etc? I do not like the dopod 838's look... has anyone spotted a Qtek 9100 in retail stores? Please reply asap so I know if I will get from expansys hk or just buy in a store. Thanks in advance. I will be in hong kong on January 1 thru 6 so any replies before this days will be appreciated! Also store info would be really helpful
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Just placed my order at expansys hk and they did not accept my credit card [maybe because I am from Manila, Philippines] anyway I would like to ask our Hong Kong brothers and sisters... is the Qtek 9100 available in retail outlets? i.e. Fortress or Wan Chai computer center etc? I do not like the dopod 838's look... has anyone spotted a Qtek 9100 in retail stores? Please reply asap so I know if I will get from expansys hk or just buy in a store. Thanks in advance. I will be in hong kong on January 1 thru 6 so any replies before this days will be appreciated! Also store info would be really helpful
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bad news for you, there are no retail shop in HK are selling either 9100 or kjam. Btw, why don't send an email to Expansys and ask why they are not accepting your credit card ? ( they seems accept cheque or maybe bank transfer ? )
cheers :lol:
thanks for the info! so only the dopod 838 is available in HK retail stores then this is really sad news for me. i've been trying to call them the whole afternoon their line is busy anyway the reason they don't accept credit card from the Philippines is because there is widespread credit card fraud here. This was also my problem last year when I got my imate JAM from expansys hk I asked a friend to deposit for me, before they shipped my order, i thought since i was a returning customer they would accept my card but this is not the case apparently. i asked if i could deposit the money on january 2 and get my order on jan 3 but they have not replied yet. they are a bit slow aren't they!
Not always the best place to buy from but Ebay!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/I-Mate-K-Jam-...ryZ38331QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
425.00 GBP = 5,662.81 HKD
And i know this one is 2nd hand. but always an option
Hi!
@bnycastro: My post has not to do with your problem at all. Did you have the chance to take a look at the dopod 838 "live"? I promise it looks much better than on any picture. I know this since vodafone is selling exactly the same unit here. I found the pictures awful. But as soon as I had my unit in hands I fell in love... So give it a try...
Greetings from Germany
plant
kjam availability
i am from the philippines too. i was able to buy a second hand kjam from greenhills... you should try looking around in that area... you might just find what you are looking for. good luck
how much did you get your unit for? I was hoping to get a brand new one and figured it might be cheaper in hkg. if i'm not to get a cheap one in hk i will probably get from gh as well... may i ask where you bought it? not in the 'tiangge' [bazaar] i hope?
bnycastro said:
how much did you get your unit for? I was hoping to get a brand new one and figured it might be cheaper in hkg. if i'm not to get a cheap one in hk i will probably get from gh as well... may i ask where you bought it? not in the 'tiangge' [bazaar] i hope?
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I just get my Dopod 838 Eng Version at Mongkok Broadway, $5790.
csyts said:
bnycastro said:
how much did you get your unit for? I was hoping to get a brand new one and figured it might be cheaper in hkg. if i'm not to get a cheap one in hk i will probably get from gh as well... may i ask where you bought it? not in the 'tiangge' [bazaar] i hope?
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I just get my Dopod 838 Eng Version at Mongkok Broadway, $5790.
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Yep, friend of mine recently bought Dopod 838 Eng, ~$5800HKD. Interestingly they had to open THREE 838's before it worked. the first two failed to boot up.
Make sure you try before you buy!
Wizard
You can find QTEK 9100 at Shenzhen HuaQuangBei at RMB4800.
They already baked Chinese ROM but you can change it to English ROM
after you bought it.
bnycastro. you can text me through my cell 09178811128. i am used to palm os, thinking of selling my kjam instead and go back to treo. hope to hear from you soon... i am selling mine within the week
kjam
it is in good condition. scratchless. with box. it is just that i am more inclined to palm os. got it from jeremiah (they have a stall inside bridgeway...renz is the owner) for 37k. will sell to you at a lower price if you want 34k. hope to hear from you soon
Just ordered the form
http://www.expansys.com.hk/product.asp?code=129135
Qtek 9100 with 1G miniSD and Screen Protectors for HK5435.
is it cheap ?
and didn't anyone success to apply the chinese fonts to the WWE rom ?
www.importgsm.com
Anyone use these guys? I am trying to decide which version o2, imate, qtek, or t-mobile to buy of this phone. so far it seems as though imate would offer the best warranty. i take it that is why people buy from them. qtek seems to be junk for warranty service (please correct me if i am wrong). t-mobile does not seem to have an english rom - causes me work.
back a few years ago i got an XDA II from o2 to get a cheaper deal than existed on the i-mate version. never had any problems and i think i sold it at a markup from what i got it from direct from britain. now i'm back to purchase a new htc device and am wondering: what more do you get for buying from i-mate really???
hi guys regarding Importgsm they were pretty good on expiditing my order which was a tmobile mda with a qtek rom wwe, which they actually got of this website.
I bought mine for 589 + shiping. they offered one year warranty directly thru them
Hi...
i would like to buy a HTC prophet derivate...
as far as i understood from reading the wikipage
there is no technical difference btw e.g.
dopod 818pro, qtek S200 and o2 neo...
However, I oberserved a big difference in price for the latter two in germany (around 80-100 €)... dopod is not available here...
So does anyone knows a reason for this ?
I would very much like to stick to the cheapest one (of course),
but maybe there are some minor differences...
I also read that a dopod with english rom boots faster than a Qtek version with german rom ??
However, one could change this just by loading a new ROM, right ??
thanks for clearing things up...
Marcel
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mtrimpl said:
Hi...
i would like to buy a HTC prophet derivate...
as far as i understood from reading the wikipage
there is no technical difference btw e.g.
dopod 818pro, qtek S200 and o2 neo...
However, I oberserved a big difference in price for the latter two in germany (around 80-100 €)... dopod is not available here...
So does anyone knows a reason for this ?
I would very much like to stick to the cheapest one (of course),
but maybe there are some minor differences...
I also read that a dopod with english rom boots faster than a Qtek version with german rom ??
However, one could change this just by loading a new ROM, right ??
thanks for clearing things up...
Marcel
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They are the same apart from the badge painted on them.
Well mostly anyway. They differ only in the software each provider adds to the basic specification. For example O2 will add O2 Plus.
You can indeed flash one prophet ROM with the ROM of the other prophet - but be careful otherwise you will end up with an expensive paper weight.
The price difference relies upon the software bundled and the warranty and tech support you get.
QTek costs less because there's almost lacking tech support, but at least you get twice as much of warranty (2 years vs 1 year) than on other brands.
Hi Rayan...
in fact, the o2 Version is cheaper than the QTek one...!
But thats a different story... Just after i ordered the o2 mobile on monday "night", i noticed that the price was higher on tuesday morning (similar to the Qtek) - maybe i asked too much questions
However, i ordered for the cheaper price; lets see if i will get it...
cu.... Marcel
P.S. in generell i have the feeling that technical support is always a bit disappointing... usually you find more help in these kinds of forums
Hint: O2-prices can vary a *lot* between online shop, O2-stores, independent phone stores and the MediaMarkt stores.
Be sure to check that!
cu
Hi ...
yep, true... But i just got my o2 neo last Friday from an internet store and... the display is heavily damaged... one can use it but it has a huge (20x10 pixs) spot of dead pixls...
So.. having bought it in a slightly more expensive o2 store would be nice now as well... lets see...
cheers.. Marcel
Since HTC manufactures the Tytn and it is a company based in Taiwan, would anybody know if it is available there?
How about the rest of Asia? any idea if it will be sold here? Thanks
You can buy it under the name "Dopod 838 Pro" from www.dopodasia.com, a HTC company
PS: I am always frustrated with the dutyfree prices in Asia, FYI and compare I paid 567 euros for mine, with 16% VAT and without contract (from www.gethandy.de ). Was recently at Taipei airport, forget about finding any Taiwanese electronic products there...
Thanks, for the information. Went to www.dopodasia.com/dopod and it is only available in Singapore, Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia. Unfortunately, no Philippines.
Would you know what ROM they use?
masterjef said:
Would you know what ROM they use?
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They use the dopod rom, it's available on the wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
Buy the Dopod CHT 9000 (From Taiwan or other import sources) and flash it to the English ROM. Mine is working perfectly so far.
Buy the Dopod CHT 9000 (From Taiwan or other import sources) and flash it to the English ROM. Mine is working perfectly so far.
Can you give me the website for the CHT 9000? Is it available in store in Taiwan? Thanks
Im sure you can find stores in Phil importing the TyTn. If not you can easily get a dopod asia from an online store from Singapore. Im in Hong Kong and i got mine that way.
For the record
CHT9000 is the Chunghwa Telecom branded version of the Dopod 838 Pro for Taiwan only.
Just browsing the net comparing the Trion and the Tytn (Dopod CHT 9000). Wow! There is a lot of difference in terms of design. The trion is much sleeker.
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Just browsing the net comparing the Trion and the Tytn (Dopod CHT 9000). Wow! There is a lot of difference in terms of design. The trion is much sleeker.
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sir musta po?
it was actually the trion that lured me into the hermes craze but it's only been available in Germany and nowhere else apart from a few importers. i've got the m3100 instead.
in case you're not aware yet, there are 3 versions of the hermes, which all seem to be very identical apart from few visual differences and key layout
Hermes100 - SPV M3100, XDA Trion, Dopod 838pro, Imate Jasjam, Qtek9600
Hermes200 - HTC Tytn, Vodafone v1605, CHT 9000
Hermes300 - MDA Vario II
i'm not sure if its available in Phils yet (incl the grey markets) so best way to get one buy abroad. where are you based anyway? Canada?
i hope i got it right with the versions above, and hope this helps you.
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Hermes100 - SPV M3100, XDA Trion, Dopod 838pro, Imate Jasjam
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+ qtek 9600
http://www.ixbt.com/pda/qtek9600.shtml - the content is in Russian, but you can look at photos
Buying the i-mate version of the MTeoR would be attactive for me, as it includes Videotelephony contrary to the HTC version (though WLAN is not built-in, which is the main reason, why I did not exchange my Qtek 8300 against the follower model - the MTeor isn't that cheap and one could expect WLAN - and also a much better cam, not just 1.3mpx).
However how to REALLY cheaply get hands on the i-mate make - SP JAS or how they call it ?
I simply do not know.
Though boasting on their homepage that they are somewhat a leader in smartphones you can only find their address in Dubai and not even other distributing partners or retailers.
I wouldn't go to Dubai just to buy an i-mate...
I know that dealers on Tottenham Ct. Rd. also have i-mate devices on stock, but England isn't really a cheap place to buy.
So only possibility would be to import one either from outside Europe (disadvantage: high import tax into the EU, relatively long handling period, problems with RMP) or the UK (disadvantage: no low retail proce).
None of these options is a good choice for me.
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jasonl said:
Hermes100 - SPV M3100, XDA Trion, Dopod 838pro, Imate Jasjam
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of course, the Qtek9600
thanks for the heads-up
you probably want to buy it in Taiwan from Chunghwa telecom. Just go to a local Chunghwa Telecom Location and they will likely have it.
I actually have an xda mini s and thinking of upgrading to a trion. Since I couldn't find it in Asia, where I'm based, I sought out the best alternative.
Right now, seems like the Dopod 838Pro (same as the CHT 9000). But still prefer the sleeker design of the Trion.
Both phones have the same features and functions, right?
HTC is making all of them, so the only difference is the cases of the different brands the Hermes/Tytn is sold under. An exception is the Cingular 8525 in the US, where Cingular requested from HTC to omit the videocam. And the voice command button on the left side is replaced by a PTT button (for Push to talk, not standard on WM5).
Anyone have any ida if the O2 Xa Trion will ever be sld in Asia?