I live in Hong Kong. From my estimate, the O2 will sell in Hong Kong in December 2005. I want to get the Universal to be first in Hong Kong. Do I buy the Universal from expansys.com or wait the offical selling in Hong Kong?
If you want to be the first you don't have much choice but to get it from somewhere else other than O2!
I'm in the same boat as you are... No warranty and ugly looking Jasjar But on the other hand, the wait is killing me too....
XDA EXEC
Hi in answer to your question, i would only consider the O2 XDA EXEC,i have seen both devices,the XDA EXEC looks way better than the Imate Jasjar.
In addition the XDA EXEC will be tested more...O2 have better support + the O2 active service installed in the phone really inhances the device.
At the end of the day i Know its hard to wait...but i promise you will not be dissapointed this device really sets new standards.
O2 vs JasJar
Disagree with you on some points, firstly, o2 Active is a complete waste of time, been on 02 3years since xda 1 and always dumped it. For Guarantee, they're both about the same, 1 year, so no benefits there. I have also owned an Imate and their customer support was fine, no worse or better then o2. Rom Upgrades are much faster at imate, less bureauracy, and that is a big plus. And if you want to, you can always put an o2 rom later.
Jasjar is a terrible name, and will be more expensive than o2, always. They cannot subsidize like o2 can, not a big difference, so waitin 3-6 weeks you'll get it cheaper for sure.
O2 vs JasJar
Disagree with you on some points, firstly, o2 Active is a complete waste of time, been on 02 3years since xda 1 and always dumped it. For Guarantee, they're both about the same, 1 year, so no benefits there. I have also owned an Imate and their customer support was fine, no worse or better then o2. Rom Upgrades are much faster at imate, less bureauracy, and that is a big plus. And if you want to, you can always put an o2 rom later.
Jasjar is a terrible name, and will be more expensive than o2, always. They cannot subsidize like o2 can, not a big difference, so waitin 3-6 weeks you'll get it cheaper for sure.
Mark,
You can preorder Qtek from expansys. The price a bit cheaper.
You can check here.
http://www.expansys.com.hk/product.asp?code=125550
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fanacreonte2804 said:
Hi in answer to your question, i would only consider the O2 XDA EXEC,i have seen both devices,the XDA EXEC looks way better than the Imate Jasjar.
In addition the XDA EXEC will be tested more...O2 have better support + the O2 active service installed in the phone really inhances the device.
At the end of the day i Know its hard to wait...but i promise you will not be dissapointed this device really sets new standards.
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I bet I can guess who you work for , but I must say the exec is much easier on the eyes.
Not sure
I think they really are 100% the same, unless you really are a tosser and care about device color...
Warranty 1 year
Rom: within a month, you'll put whatever you want in, no big deal active
o2 Active, Useless (Unless someone wants to convince me otherwise)
Price: 100% o2 will be cheaper, it always is. I will always buy these under contract, they are cheaper + you get minutes which I can throw away.
Buying O2
Buying O2 guarantees you a few things:
1) O2 active will be available, and if installed (which at least is optional on the exec without needing silly corporate codes) it will make your device crash much more than devices that dont have it. I have no confidence that O2 will sort out the O2 active issues that exist on the XDA IIs
2) You will wait *eons* for firmware updates. O2 are still shipping devices with BT build 3500, rom 1.31.00, radio: 1.06. They are now about 6 versions behind and there is no news of whether there will *ever* be an official update to the latest and greatest. For the record, BT3900, rom 1.41, and radio 1.12 are the latest.
3) You will get a cheaper device than if you bought it elsewhere.
So.... if you buy O2 then be prepaired to hack around with it, cook your own roms, and rely on timely updates from *other* vendors (which will need to be hacked for the O2 XDA) to fix the bugs on your exec.
O2 do not aknowledge or fix bugs on their devices period.
Nigel
I agree 100%
Exec will be considerably cheaper, but you'll get screwed on support. Even more true for T-Mobile, they are the most agressive guys, u wiull save a lot if you are patient.
For example I bought 13 T-mobile MDA's for 235GBP (purchase price + contract), and flipped on ebay for 320GBP. Now I have cancelled my contract and am getting 446GBP back, paying for JasJar....
So, buying through an agressive operator is always cheaper because they factor in that you will be spending more then you're contract....guess I didn't
Getting it from O2 doesn't offer much advantages; All O2 settings can be obtained from their site or the net; O2 active is useless, I always get rid of it in all my O2 pocket pcs; waste of memory. I bought the jamjar on an o2 contract costing 320GBP, paying 25GBP per month for 100min and 100text which works out to 620GBP. I don't think waiting for the exec itself will give a more significant discount. 320 quid for the device sounds fair enough considering it costs over 600GBP sim free at the moment; some shops sell it at 700GBP!
Did the same
Paid 660 GBP for 250 minutes on o2 and the phone for one year. Not bad? (I already have 500 minutes from o2 for 15GBP per month, but I figured can keep the 250 minutes for guests)
It is pre-order only.
1. Expansys is on pre-order stage.
2. Expansys cannot provide the handset warranty.
3. The price is about 700GBP
I am only wait for O2 Exec.
Hemant said:
Mark,
You can preorder Qtek from expansys. The price a bit cheaper.
You can check here.
http://www.expansys.com.hk/product.asp?code=125550
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What is the price of the O2 Exec from O2 UK for handset only(Sim free)? Who can help me to reply this post?
Thanks!!!!!!
Are you really gonna wait for the O2 XDA Exec in Hong Kong?
I have just been told that Universal will not appear in Hong Kong under O2 brand - the distributor will introduce it as Dopod 900.
Wait and see - October 2005.
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mikeycollins13 said:
I think they really are 100% the same, unless you really are a tosser and care about device color...
Warranty 1 year
Rom: within a month, you'll put whatever you want in, no big deal active
o2 Active, Useless (Unless someone wants to convince me otherwise)
Price: 100% o2 will be cheaper, it always is. I will always buy these under contract, they are cheaper + you get minutes which I can throw away.
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Making him care about the colour on a device that costs £600+gbp makes him a tosser?Would you like a **** brown with pink spots coloured ferrari?
Personally I would wait for the Exec.
I like the O2 colors better than the grey MDA ones - this is just and aesthetic issue. Functional-wise I think you should wait because there are problems with apps that are not compatible yet with WM5, therefore you might not be able to use all the apps which you have purchased (or downloaded as freeware) to run on your device,so your gaming/productivity/communication/entertainment might be impaired
1. Are you sure the O2 Exec will not release in HK?
2. After to read some posts, I want to wait O2 Exec released in Hong Kong rather than to buy imate/MDA Pro from overseas/Internet(expansys or www.pocketpc.com.hk).
shu_sum said:
Are you really gonna wait for the O2 XDA Exec in Hong Kong?
I have just been told that Universal will not appear in Hong Kong under O2 brand - the distributor will introduce it as Dopod 900.
Wait and see - October 2005.
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There's one problem with the O2 exec, at least in the UK - O2! They're rubbish in every sense. I used to be a customer of theirs and I had to phone them EVERY MONTH when they double billed me. They never sorted this out despite my repeated atempts and they're repeated promises. You'll also spend 15 minutes on hold when you call them. Their customer service is completly ineefctual and, as mentioned elsewhere, bug fixes and rom updates are almost non-existant. I'm told they also have poorer 3G coverage in the UK than the likes of Voda.
I bought a JasJar (and paid prolly about £70 more than if I had bought an Exec on O2) soley becuase it meant i didn't have to use O2!
But I agree the exec looks nicer. There is also some concern over the JasJar not having a keybaord backlight - I'll be able to confirm or deny in a couple of days when my order arrives.
Related
I want an XDA2!!
Sooner than later. Will settle for an imate or Qtec2020
Anyone got any ideas?
I would personally buy an Imate.
I bought mine from www.compume.com
or Arne is a great guy and has them in stock www.ppcw.net
I should of explained more.
I need 16 before Friday
Then another 500 sooner than later..
(UK based is also pref.)
wow
lol
well most places i've seen carry then without simlocks are small online and stores and such and i would very much doubt they could supply 16 that fast
maybe if you went to o2 or tmobile you could buy a pile and get them unlocked and without sim think they often sell them with that option but you have to pay alot! more
O2 and tmobile wont do that :x
Anymore idea??!?
Thanks in advance.
well maybe orange here they sell the xda2 under the name SPV M1000
and if you want to buy it wihtout a subscription
they cost 928.597 GBP a pop
so if you want 16 it's 14848 GBP
a bit on the pricy side if you ask me though
Not an ideal option but might be one to go down.
not sure if orange uk ofer them yet though cant see it on their site
Contacted Dangaard Belgium.
There seems to be a production problem for the moment with the 2020.
No units available (high quantities) until half february.
If you like, I can inform for T-Mobile MDA II (same device), but they will have a German manual (English ROM, simlock free).
Hi there we can do them for you (o2 XDAII) but we can unlock them for you for £450 each let me know
[email protected]
Buy the t-mobile MDA2 sim free, (german version) and then upload the new rom from T-mobile NL which makes the machine perfect uk usable
Machine is only €799,- sim FREE and there are lodes of them
NO PROBLEMO
take a trip into manchester airport terminal 3 get a ticket for plane and go into the departure lounge they got a tax free dixons they sell the XDA locked to bt ofcouse but no contract for £500ish
you can easily lock them yourself.... the software is in this forum!!
J
Places to buy XDA2 sim free
Well O2 Asia gives xda2 sim free. Goto www.myxda.com -> Where to Buy? I got mine from HongKong and yes its sim free as well.
junglejim said:
you can easily lock them yourself.... the software is in this forum!!
J
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OMG REALLY?!?! id never of guessed :roll:
How to get an XDAII unlocked and usefull for Spain?
Does anybody knows where can I get a cheap unit of XDAII unlocked and usefull for Spain...I almos get P900 but I think XDAII is much better.
I used to buy it from Scanocom.co.uk for 240GBP, but price is now closer to 300GBP. Any ideas on the cheapest online retailers?
Just get in on a contract. You cant beat these deals:
http://www.phones2udirect.co.uk/Products/type/phones/ProductID/5654/NetworkID//I-Mate_JAM.asp
I got my Jam from them - they were quite on the ball with everything.
With that free Jam on O2 that the have, you'd be better off than buying the phone SIM free, especially when you calculayte what a SIM-Free Jam will cost PLUS how much you spend on mobile phone each month.
I got mine a week or two ago from http://buymobilephones.net/store/merchant-2-34.ihtml.
They have the imate and qtek on all networks, about £30 on contract - qtek is same thing but with 2 years warranty instead of 1 on imate, so no question really. Quite cheap, fast, professional service (I decided to change network after placing my order and they were very happy to make changes etc. Still got delivery next day!).
You're welcome to use me as a referrer if you do go with them!
V Rathour on oh 7725 oh 79342.
Vijay
i got mine from AGBglobal... they are in UK and they are very helpful.
http://www.agbglobal.com
I have been patiently waiting for months now for this superb phone to come to o2 uk. I am already over due an upgrade but have been waiting untill the mini is available. But the wait is starting to annoy me and i am thinkin of jus leaving and going to t-mobile and picking up an MDA Compact. Anyone got any idea when the mini is coming to the uk? i have called o2 and they are as much help as a kick in the balls.
thaks,
Tom
Orange is releasing thier SPV M500 which is essentially a Jam, but it's also rumored it has 128mb RAM, may it's worth holding out a little bit longer for that
very interesting - if it does have 128mb of ram then it is definately worth waiting a bit for - but hopefully not too long! (i am a very impatient person!)
SPV M500
The SPV M500 is already available - I have one now, but alas it does not have 128mb Ram !
hmm if that's the case then i would still rather wait for the o2 XDA mini as i can probably get it cheaper as an upgrade an d i don't have the hastle of moving contracts etc. So any one got any idea when it is likely to be coming out?
Tom
welshtom said:
I have been patiently waiting for months now for this superb phone to come to o2 uk. I am already over due an upgrade but have been waiting untill the mini is available. But the wait is starting to annoy me and i am thinkin of jus leaving and going to t-mobile and picking up an MDA Compact. Anyone got any idea when the mini is coming to the uk? i have called o2 and they are as much help as a kick in the balls.
thaks,
Tom
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It's not going to be released. Time for new devices
welshtom said:
I have been patiently waiting for months now for this superb phone to come to o2 uk. I am already over due an upgrade but have been waiting untill the mini is available. But the wait is starting to annoy me and i am thinkin of jus leaving and going to t-mobile and picking up an MDA Compact. Anyone got any idea when the mini is coming to the uk? i have called o2 and they are as much help as a kick in the balls.
thaks,
Tom
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I spoke to O2 UK about this a few days ago and the guy on the phone said not to hold my breath waiting for it as they may not do it here in the UK!
I was with O2 and in the same position a few months back - eventually I went with an Orange contract and a Qtek S100 (2 year warranty) - the interesting part is that orange will match O2's '200' contract, so essentially you end up with the same deal as O2 with the benefits of Orange (241 cinema tickets are great) and a extra years warranty! You don't _need_ 128mb, the bigstorage conversion takes care of that! Compared to the XDA2 it's incredible - just as fast, the SIZE OF A PHONE (AT LAST) and battery life is far, far better (i no longer need to charge EVERY day).
Do it...
I bought mine from:
http://www.a1comms.co.uk/store/merchant-4-34-305-Phones.ihtml
..but do shop around. Sell you old device on ebay - i sold mine for 350ukp with a gps unit!
I see they're doing an O2 promotion right now - so you could stick with O2 and save some cash!
e.g.
"O2 200 with 50 messages + Promotion (12mths) £30 per month, phone cost £29.99"
Or do what i do.It takes forever for the companys here in the uk to get the decent phone,if ever so when your upgrae is due,get the best phone possible,sell it on e-bay then buy whatever phone sim free ie i mate jam :wink: that way you don't have to spend time removing all orange,o2 etc's crap off it.You can even sell the phone you got now too to raise more.Works every time for me! :wink: :twisted:
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Or do what i do.It takes forever for the companys here in the uk to get the decent phone,if ever so when your upgrae is due,get the best phone possible,sell it on e-bay then buy whatever phone sim free ie i mate jam :wink: that way you don't have to spend time removing all orange,o2 etc's crap off it.You can even sell the phone you got now too to raise more.Works every time for me! :wink: :twisted:
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To not install the 'crap' just reset the device after windows setup, that way the extended rom isn't installed and you can do it by hand. I did the math and it would of cost me more to buy, sell and then buy again - remember you can drop your contract rate post-six months in which brings the cost down again. Besides, the problem is, that O2 do not offer the magician as an upgrade
right cheers for the replies guys - very interesting, i am shocked however that o2 is probably not going to realease this phone! big mistake in my opinion! looks like i had better give up waiting then and go do some searchin around and some maths to find the best deal i can!
thanks again,
Tom
i got my s100 on o2 100 for £39.99 and £25 a month contract,
a1comms.co.uk
great device (obviously not branded as o2 but its still the same)
I WANT 2 GET THE O2 EXEC ON UPGRADE
BUT NO O2 SHOP IN EAST LONDON HAS ANY
I RANG O2 CUSTOMER SERVICES ABOUT THIS AND ASKED IF I CAN ORDER IT ONLINE, THEY SED YES BUT U'D HAVE 2 PAY £239 (INSTEAD OF £150 IF I UPGRADE IN A O2 SHOP) IF U DO IT ON THE FONE OR NET
IS IT JUST ME OR ARE O2 JUS PLAIN STUPID?
Go to the O2.co.uk shop online and order one for 139.99 on any contract. It's amazing how many different prices they've got for it every time you ring them!
HTH
Fin
findus said:
Go to the O2.co.uk shop online and order one for 139.99 on any contract. It's amazing how many different prices they've got for it every time you ring them!
HTH
Fin
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I'M WANT IT ON A UPGRADE
no need to shout... :wink:
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no need to shout... :wink:
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any1 know if any o2 shop in london has any exec's in stock?
I got mine on an upgrade - £220 but £10 off my monthly bill. Works out at £100 for the phone over the year.
I did mention it the sales lady that I can get it on a new contract for £140 and she offered the money off the tariff then.
I doubt if they sell at all in shops. I tried Ox street but they didn't have it. I bought mine online. Check if it is in stock before bying online, they don't do PRE-ordering stuff.
cheers
Nirvana
They have plenty.
Just picked one up in Reading today to replace my JASJAR which I am selling.
They said they had 6 in stock.
:arrow: rilot
being one who has been deliberating for the past few days whether to buy the O2 Xda Exec or the JasJar
(as far as I see - the Exec's benefit being its looks and much lower cost Vs the better and more frequent firmware updates of the JasJar) -- could you please share the benefits of your knowledge and experience as to WHY you are replacing one model with the other
thanks
@techdot,
the Exec is £100 cheaper SIM free than the JJ, that's a good reason I think!
techDot
My main reason is that I can sell the JASJAR for approx £550 which pays off my Vodafone contract.
O2 have excellent data bundles such as the one I'm on which is 75MB/month for £18.
Overall, the total cost of ownership is considerably lower with the XDA Exec and an O2 contract in my situation.
hi , i wanna buy a HTC Universal , so
will i buy O2 XDA Exec SIM unlocked or i-mate JASJAR ????
please help
Really makes no difference as its identical hardware.
The differences are purely cosmetic, however you do have the choice to switch ROMs so, like me at present, you could run an I-Mate ROM on an O2 Exec or vice versa or any other combinations.
Can anyone confirm that loading another Reseller's ROM on a branded device invalidates warranties as I know this has been hinted at before.
Thanks
Can anyone confirm that loading another Reseller's ROM on a branded device invalidates warranties as I know this has been hinted at before.
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This is true. A provider will generally only accept a device for repair if it is using one of their supported ROMs, so if you get into problems, you will need to reflash back to a provider supplied ROM
the exec looks good in black.....but the damn problem is in keeping it nice and shining!
The black color attracts a lot of dirt, finger prints & grime! Half the time you'd end up wiping and shining it!
You might be better of with a jasjar ;-)
my 2 cents!
S
There are people on eBay selling silicone "condoms" for the Exec and they are pretty good. I bought mine and it was delivered in a week or so. The only problem with it is that I need to remove it in order to use my car cradle
Buy the Exec if it is from O2 UK as they have a good warranty scheme (2 years warranty). I have owned both the JJ and Exec and I prefer the screen of the Exec, even though people say they are the same!
basically the exec just looks the coolest. A few friends of mine cancelled blackberry orders when they saw the o2 exec. Also it depends if you want a data tariff with the device or not. If you do, I think o2 has the best data tariff scheme at the moment as:
1. You can buy data only if you don't want voice.
2. Data tariff amounts give the same discount as equivalent cost voice tariffs.
3. Volume of data tariff is good, (+VAT) £14.5 for 35mg, £18 for 75, £25 for 2000 and £45 for 1G.
The best 3g coverage in the UK is, as usual, vodafone .......
thaks for all your relyes , and after reading this i'll buy an O2 Exec
and thanx
Hang On...
I went for the Exec two months ago for all the reasons above (inc the 75Mb data only plan) but you might be better advised to wait a couple of weeks and go for the T Mobile MDA Pro.
There are rumours on Modaco that T Mobile is going to release an unlimited data plan for £7.50 a month!
Apparently T Mobile will unlock the MDA for £15.
xerxes
On a slightly diff note here.. just wanted to tell u guys.. here in India AIRTEL offers an unlimited data plan for Rs.200/month only which is approx US$4.55/month only. with EDGE speeds
YIPPIE !!!