WI-FI and TyTn - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Hi,
I am thinking of replacing my Magician with TyTn because the WI-FI is a nice feature to have.
How easy is it ? I mean, configuration wise.
Because I travel a lot and stay in a hotel.
Usually, in the hotel, they offer WI-FI access (mostly you must pay for the service).
What kind of WI-FI connection can be made using TyTn ?
Is there any kind of connection profile that we can configure and choose for ?
Maybe this question is stupid, but I dont have experience with PDA and WI-FI access (as you know that I am using HTC Magician!).
Have you ever used your TyTn to connect to a Hotel WI-FI access?
Thanks for sharing your experience.

Configuring Wi-Fi on TyTN is very easy. With default settings you just need to turn on the wifi and wait for the phone to detect wireless networks.
TyTN supports 802.11b and g (10Mbps/54Mbps)
Dunno about the profiles. You can add accesspoints/ad-hocs and choose which to use.
However, if the wireless lan you connect to is open (no encryption) and uses DHCP you only need one access point for that and theres no need to do anything else.
I have used Wi-Fi access in a bar without any problems. Shouldn't be any different when using it in a hotel if the AP signal is strong enough.
At home, TyTN can't be further than 15-20m from my AP without the signal dropping down to zero.

Wifi configuration is the same in all windows mobile 5 devices, you can connect to a network and store the credentials, so next time you connect to the same network you don't have to reenter them.
Regarding Hotel hotspots, these are usually open networks (no encryption) with a captive portal. Support for PocketPC devices is usually ofered by most companies providing this service and should be no problem in that.
I've used PocketPC devices with wifi to connect in KubiWireless, Boingo, The Cloud and T-Mobile hotspots without problems.

Be aware that the wifi range of the TYTN is tight, and WM5 has some issue with wifi:
-No WPA2 support
-No aes cypher algorythm
-Buggy with PEAP auth + certs

What About VPN, we have VPN Service in the University.Is there VPN client for WM5, for the laptops we are using Cisco VPN Client

Jorshua, forget about Wi-Fi in TyTn, its so bad.
Read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276904

I don't have so much problems, in the uni the signal is very good, I am asking about VPN is there client for WM5.

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XDAIIi Wifi access over home router to browse PC apps etc

I got me a new 2i, and now want to use the wifi function from home as well as hotpspts etc.
I got me a Linksys Wireless-G 54mbps Broadband Router (Back compatibale with 11 b)
Any usefull tips on which software I can use to connect to my home pc and browse to my documents/mp3's/ etc and stream to the 2i?
Also with this I would like to be able to set up a VPN from the 2i so i can remotley connect to my desktop pc when away from home, and do this from a hotspot etc.
Any advise?
Thanks
Just use pocket IE or file explorer and type in the UNC path of the location on your home PC, e.g. \\HOMEPC\MYMUSIC.
Could you let me know which version you are using for the XDA IIi and which model WAP? I've been trying to get my IIi to work with a 3COM OfficeConnect WAP to no avail (both work and home). Work WAP is carrying about 5 different client WIFI cards (and a HP IPAQ). Home WAP is carrying 3 different WIFI cards. No problems in either case. Just my XDA IIi is unhappy. Home WAP is running the lastest firmware from 3COM and Work WAP is running original firmware. My XDA IIi doesn't work with either. I have managed to get the XDA to WIFI on a neighbour's WAP working. Which seems to indicate that XDA IIi is OK.
I've seen another post where there was a problem with a linksys 54g / XDA IIi
Similiar thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=20178
Anybody got any ideas?
UPDATE: Got IP address @ work wap from MS DHCP server. Can ping/traceroute using vxUtils, but the device doesn't appear to "know" it's connected. IE, etc still tries to use GPRS.
wifi and vpn
I am also unable to keep a vpn connection going with my wifi. Any help appreciated.
Internet connection over VPN over Wifi
I am also unable to keep a vpn connection going with my wifi. Any help appreciated.
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I managed to establish a connection and got access to the internet via a VPN-Server in the local network connected via Wifi to my XDA mini. I had also problems with vpn connection going down.
Unfortunately I have some troubles with my Wifi card, so I don't have the exact settings. But AFAIR the problem was solved by doing this:
- Going to Settings->Connections->Connections->Advanced->Execptions
- Using New URL to add "*" and "*/*".
(I have a german version, so I'm not sure, how the buttons are labled in english)
I think the problem is, that the software thinks, VPN connects always to the INTRAnet at your workplace. By adding this "Exections" you tell the device, that the hole internet is included in the intranet.
Maybe there is a routing tool for PPC which can solve this, too?

XDA2ii can't connect to WIFI at home

Hi!
Before I start tese are my current system info:
XDA2ii (O2) - UK
ROM version 1.10.00 WWE
ROM date:24/12/2004
Radio ver: 1.00.00
Protocol version: 1337.39
ExtROM version: 1.10.124 WWE
OS: Windows Mobile 2003 2nd Edition
Version 4.21.1088 (build 14235.2.0.0)
I am trying to connect to my home WIFI network but I can't seem to connect. It is indeed picking up the server (name appears) in list but just stops at connection to network. It can't seem to get any connection at all. My wireless router (Linksys WRT54G) can't seem to detect it as well.
I have tried connection to WIFI at an airport and it seems to work but not at home. I have set my Linksys to Mixed mode (B and G) but still can't get it to work.
Any advice?
Thank you!!!
XDA IIi (or 2i) and 3COM WAP
Hi.
Got the exact same (everything) XDA IIi model (also O2/UK). I'm also having problems with WLAN/WIFI connectivity both at work and home. Both cases it's a 3COM OfficeConnect WAP (office one not setup by me). I thought I validated that the XDA seems to be OK by being able to connect to a neighbours WAP (some BT-Voyager thing) with no apparent problems. And so was thinking that the problem is with the 3COM WAP. However, your post raises doubts on my conclusion ...
The search goes on ...
Re: XDA IIi (or 2i) and 3COM WAP
hi
My case is even worse, it can not detect any wifi signal at any of the hotspot in my city. Go to wireless Lan Manager, under WLAN button (red status) there is alwayls a sentence: "no connection in use". Clicking to it, the device seem to search but found nothing.
Try softreset, hardreset but the problem remains.
In addition, I try to turn off the phone (turn on flight mode) then it don't allow to turn on bluetooth and wifi too.
Maybe it is due to hardware error.
Really disappoint with O2 UK
Regards
Tuan
WiFi connection problems with XDA2i
I have exactly the same O2 xda2i build as Johnnyboy, and precisely the same problem with WiFi as Blackwolf and Johnnyboy. I have a netgear WiFi access point at home, and have disabled the attach restriction and removed WEP. However, although the XDA can see the network name, it cannot connect to the network (just displays connecting...) nor does it show anything on the signal bar. Needless to say, it does not display SSID, Tx rate, Channel, IP address or any information from the network.
I have bought this device specifically for wifi access, and it is somewhat disappointing. Anyone have any idea how this can be fixed? (if at all :? )
XDA Wi-Fi Successful Connection!!!
Hi,
I'm new to the forum and new to XDA2i....
I too had many frustrations connecting the wi-fi...but now I've cracked it, here's how.......
On first very first use (or following a hard re-set) device users are prompted to choose “What do you want WLAN to connect to?” The option bullets are ‘Internet’ or ‘Work’….’Work’ should be selected, this will connect them to the nearest WLAN (if this network is WEP encrypted it should be switched to ‘Open’ rather than ‘shared’ as is often the case).
Next prompt asks for any WEP Encryption ‘Pass Key’ to be input, when doing so omit any ‘-‘ between character pairs. Normal start-up should then be completed. Once device is up and running…..
From ‘Start’ pull-down on the ‘Today Screen’ select…. ‘settings’>’connections tab’>’connections icon’>’advanced tab’>’Select Networks’> pull-down ‘My Work Network’ > ‘OK’ out of selections to save and exit.
Go to ‘Wireless Manager’ in programs, select WLAN icon from main screen (which should turn green to show active), then select mini ‘WLAN’ icon from lower toolbar to see the status of the connection, quality of signal etc.
That did it for me......
Cheers
Finally cracked it! As I never had any problems with my Netgear MR814 wireless router, I assumed the issue was with the XDA2i. Instead, a router firmware upgrade did the trick! Should have thought of that earlier.
Cheers, S.
When i first got my XDA 2i home from the shop the first thing it tried was the wireless lan, and the same thing happend to me also..... everything fine in the router but still unable to connect the xda.
anyway after few hours of going over every single setting time and time again , it finally worked !!
i left the Wlan enabled and after a period of a few minutes it connected to my network.
So i think the XDA 2i is quite tempremental with Wlan, as i know my settings were correct.
having said that, i have had no problems with Wlan t all since then, it will now even connect to other Wlan hotspots with no problems whatsoever.
The only problem i have now is recieving a decent O2 Cellphone signal i my area
Well I have a XDA IIi and it connects fine and allways has to Citi Hotspots, TMO hotspots and my own Linksys WRT54GS. Netgear is the biggest piece of crap ever sold. If you have one I suggest you soak it in gas and burn it.
I had a problem with my XDA IIi connecting to a home Wi-Fi network with a Linksys WRT54GC router: a signal showed in the Wireless LAN Manager, including an IP address, but the WI-Fi icon at the top of the Today screen had no connection bars. After days of this I went to the Linksys settings for an unrelated reason and disabled Wireless SSID Broadcast. Inexplicably this appeared to cure the WiFi problem with the XDA IIi, and I can now connect with ease.
Ok, I might as well add my question to this thread, as it's relevant.
I have an O2 UK XDA2i, and I've also experienced similar problems connecting the wifi and managing to get it to work properly.
I'm at Uni in Birmingham, and at some of my faculties there's wifi for students and staff to use - they give the broadcast SSID UCEOpenAccess, and you use your system logon (in my case STUDENTS\F05310011 and my password (secret ).
I have these details set in the LEAP tab of my wireless lan config (in the WLAN settings) - I have an entry named UCEOpenAccess, and I have my username and password (and domain) set correctly, and the auth type set to Open System (as opposed to EAP, doesn't seem to make any difference whatever I set it to)...
... I just can't connect to any wifi network! I can't even _SEE_ the wifi network, and I know it's there, I can pick up other wifi networks and detect them using Wifi Graph and Hitchiker. I just, bizarrely, can't see the one wifi network I'm trying to connect to.
It's incredibly frustrating. I have my network adapter set to connect to Work (as I've seen advised on these forums), and my IP is assigned via DHCP (they use a weird class b subnet for their network), and the proxy to connect to the Internet is also setup correctly in my Network (This network connects to the Internet checked, This network uses a proxy to connect to the Internet, and proxy is specified in the box), and as the proxy is a SOCKS 5 authenticating proxy, all the relevant details and username+password are in place in the Advanced settings.
Still doesn't work!
Is it due to my original (and decrepit, from the looks of things) firmware and software versions? I'm running original radio, is that a problem maybe? I've scouted about quickly for updates from O2 for my XDA, but I don't want to install a Japanese update as I don't reallllly want to have to read Japanese (and I can't, etc) - I don't want to make a brick out of this brand new phone, but the resources for total xda newbs is somewhat lacking. Can someone just poke me in the right direction with a stick?
Cheers all.

Making the Wizard act as a bluetooth Wifi Modem?

I know that it's possible to use the Wizard as a bluetooth modem, using your gprs as the active signal.
Since the Wizard supports WiFi aswell, isn't it possible to use the Wizard to connect to a WiFi network and then sharing that connection over bluetooth.
The reason behind this is that I recently moved and we're sharing a wifi connection in this house. But my signal is very weak in my room, but the kitchen next to my room has a signal strenght of over 70%.
I know that buying a better router of signal enhancer would do the trick, but we're poor students
Theory says yes, but I have asked this same question without much luck or a definitive answer.
I have been trying to do the same with a laptop, bluetooth and my lan connection.
Apparently, you need to configure the outgoing bluetooth device, in this case the PDA, to act as a proxy server.
When I linked my laptop to my desktop over bluetooth, it creates a PAN (Personal Area Network). Its IP was set at 169.254.x.x
A LAN networks at IP's of 192.168.x.x and XP wouldn't let be bridge the two together. (Because of the IP differences.)
It would be the same scenario for the PDA.
I am relaying what I have basically learnt but have no idea of which way to take it now so if you have any luck, please let me know.

Off topic - Wireless - What am I doing wrong?

Pardon me because this isn't entirely a Wizard specific questions although I am able to replicate the problem with my Cingular 8125 (new ROM) 100% of the time.
I'm not a stupid person. I've setup numerous wireless networks for corporations and home users. I always use WEP or WPA and never unencrypted (no) security.
In most situations, the wireless router does NOT supply the DHCP to the clients. It usually comes from another DHCP server on the same LAN segment. Typically, this is a Windows server although it could be a DHCP-assigning device, such as a Cisco router.
PCs have no trouble seeing the wireless network and connecting to it and getting addresses assigned to them. For a while, I couldn't do this on WPA security but upgrading firmware and software on the laptops (usually Dell) rectified this.
With my Wizard, both old and new ROMs, I can SEE the wireless networks and connect to them but I can NEVER get an IP address. It tries and tries and fails and fails and eventually gives up. (Yes, the Cingular proxy is turned off)
Yet, at the airport or other public places with free wireless, I have no problems connecting my Wizard to the access point and surfing away. Thus, I know its not (entirely) a Wizard issue. Of course, these public access points aren't encrypted which could be one of the reasons but I doubt its the only one.
As a test, I just built a new wireless router with a SSID (other than "default") and security turned on (WPA) and let the router act as the DHCP server. Wizard connected in seconds and was surfing away. So the obvious next question is: why doesn't this work when the wireless router ISN'T the DHCP server? Other machines (laptops and such) have no problem connecting to one wireless router and getting a DHCP address from another box yet my Wizard cannot.
I've tested this with D-Link and Belkin wireless routers (consumer-grade).
I've seen other people post that they cannot get their wireless to work on their Wizard and while the fix may not be on the side of the Wizard, I think others may be in the same boat I'm in so I'm hoping that maybe we can compare enough stories to narrow this down so that we CAN use our Wizards wirelessly!
Ken
Confusing...
maybe you should try assign a fix ip to your pocket's wifi adapter and see if it would work. or just let the wlan security turn OFF on your access point to see what would happen.
i guess that the network protocol stack is slightly different between a PC and a PPC, which limit the DHCP request route.
I have just purchased the Wizard, aka o2 XDA Mini S, and use it with my Belkin Wireless Access Point (WPA-TKIP Enabled, DHCP & NAT disabled) and Cisco ADSL Router (DHCP Server) without any problems.
I have assigned the Belkin Wireless Access Point a fixed IP address however, but I don't think this would make a difference.
The other thing I found was that the Wizard would not connect correctly to the Belkin using WPA with AES encryption, but switching it to WPA with TKIP works flawlessly.
Well, I suppose its encouraging that others with the same wi-fi routers are getting this to work but its discouraging that I'm having so much trouble!
Fixed IP does work (therefore, its unlikely a Wizard-only problem) but obviously a fixed IP doesn't let me roam from one hotspot (home) to another (work) very easily.
Haven't tried it sans-security yet although that might just prove a point, rather than be a perminant solution. I have tried WPA-PSK and WEP with the same (negative) results.
I personally have found that unless I change the power settings for the WiFi adapter to full power, its hit or miss.
Never have a problem maing connections, geting leases, etc with it there.
YMMV though
Regards - John
prob irrelevent
i found that before i active sync'd. the wireless monitor on my wizard showed a strong signal from the router. then after it synced, it picked up an IP from the servers dhcp fine.
also for lightweight simple security i use mac address filtering on the AP

WIFI & Mobile Data Simultaneously?

Hi, New poster so if I've posted in the wrong area please don't bite
I've been connecting my phone to a smart device (miracast-ing 'direct') but as of late the connection has become unstable and generally unusable. I had the brainstorm of using an old router to stabilize the connection, this seems to have done the trick but now I'm unable to access the mobile data as WIFI has assumed priority. Please bear in mind I don't have home internet so the router is being used solely as a go between for phone and smart device. Is there any possibility of WiFi connection whilst have access to mobile data or is this just a pipedream?
Thanks in advance
You can just start a wifi network from your phone, connect the smart devices to your phones wifi and use mobile data normal as internet connection (this is standard if you start a wifi network from phone). You wouldnt even need the router with this szenario, if the wifi signal of your phone isnt strong enough you can connect your router to the phone and extend the wifi with the router.
saturday_night said:
You can just start a wifi network from your phone, connect the smart devices to your phones wifi and use mobile data normal as internet connection (this is standard if you start a wifi network from phone). You wouldnt even need the router with this szenario, if the wifi signal of your phone isnt strong enough you can connect your router to the phone and extend the wifi with the router.
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Thanks for the reply
But creating a mobile hotspot won't help because it doesn't solve the faulty (actually non-existent) miracast connection, plus I don't need a hotspot because only the phone needs internet access. My earlier explanation was probably a bit vague.
My goal is to mirror my phone's screen but to also have internet access solely on my phone.
Phone➡Smart Device➡Display - Can't connect (used to work faultless).
Phone➡Router➡Smart Device➡Display - Connects but no mobile data available because the phone thinks the router has internet access covered.
Dowtish said:
Thanks for the reply
But creating a mobile hotspot won't help because it doesn't solve the faulty (actually non-existent) miracast connection, plus I don't need a hotspot because only the phone needs internet access. My earlier explanation was probably a bit vague.
My goal is to mirror my phone's screen but to also have internet access solely on my phone.
Phone➡Smart Device➡Display - Can't connect (used to work faultless).
Phone➡Router➡Smart Device➡Display - Connects but no mobile data available because the phone thinks the router has internet access covered.
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Creating a hotspot is not for giving the other devices in your network internet access, this is the only way you can use the wifi on your phone with using mobile data at the same time. I dont know why but android devices never use mobile data when they are connected to a wifi network and there is no internet access available. So if you configure your router as a wifi repeater and setup the phone as base station, your wifi signal from phone to router should be good and you can connect your other devices to the router, the phone should see all devices in the same network if you stop the dhcp server in your router and only use the one from your phones hotspot. Should look like this :
Phone (with DHCP) <----Router---->Smart Device---> Display
saturday_night said:
Creating a hotspot is not for giving the other devices in your network internet access, this is the only way you can use the wifi on your phone with using mobile data at the same time. I dont know why but android devices never use mobile data when they are connected to a wifi network and there is no internet access available. So if you configure your router as a wifi repeater and setup the phone as base station, your wifi signal from phone to router should be good and you can connect your other devices to the router, the phone should see all devices in the same network if you stop the dhcp server in your router and only use the one from your phones hotspot. Should look like this :
Phone (with DHCP) <----Router---->Smart Device---> Display
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Cheers will try it out.
Hopefully that sort of config is available on my router as it is loaded with a custom firmware from my old ISP provider.
Thanks
saturday_night said:
Creating a hotspot is not for giving the other devices in your network internet access, this is the only way you can use the wifi on your phone with using mobile data at the same time. I dont know why but android devices never use mobile data when they are connected to a wifi network and there is no internet access available. So if you configure your router as a wifi repeater and setup the phone as base station, your wifi signal from phone to router should be good and you can connect your other devices to the router, the phone should see all devices in the same network if you stop the dhcp server in your router and only use the one from your phones hotspot. Should look like this :
Phone (with DHCP) <----Router---->Smart Device---> Display
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Router ISP custom firmware seems restrictive (no advanced wireless settings) plus WDS is not officially supported.
Possibly achievable but beyond my technical savvy
Thanks for the advice anyways.
Dowtish said:
Hi, New poster so if I've posted in the wrong area please don't bite
I've been connecting my phone to a smart device (miracast-ing 'direct') but as of late the connection has become unstable and generally unusable. I had the brainstorm of using an old router to stabilize the connection, this seems to have done the trick but now I'm unable to access the mobile data as WIFI has assumed priority. Please bear in mind I don't have home internet so the router is being used solely as a go between for phone and smart device. Is there any possibility of WiFi connection whilst have access to mobile data or is this just a pipedream?
Thanks in advance
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Do not use WiFi 5Gz , use only 2,4Gz, and wifi 5Gz off for router and smartphone

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