I am running Tomtom 6.010 (7720) on my Prophet at clock speed 240 Omap. Startup of the app is fast but then when I load the whole "Western Europe" map and navigate with it the arrow on the map moves only laggy and slow. Its like there is a skip lag to every refresh. I tried taking away all POI and loading a smaller map (benelux single) it does not seem to help. How can i get things a little Smoother?
Thanks for advice.
Hi,I have the same version of tomtom 6 with only france map and the original cpu clock:it runs correctly.Your problem is the western map is bigger than france map ( only 200 Mo and western 1,5 go i think ),so it's normal tomtom runs slowly,especially with a lot of poi in the map.
I also had a very slow TomTom6 (way much slower than TT5)
I formatted the card, copied the TT6 Europe map, and is was way much faster that TT5 with only BeneluxPlus.
It seems that TT6 realy has problems with speed on fragmented storage cards.
RommelAcc said:
I also had a very slow TomTom6 (way much slower than TT5)
I formatted the card, copied the TT6 Europe map, and is was way much faster that TT5 with only BeneluxPlus.
It seems that TT6 realy has problems with speed on fragmented storage cards.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is correct. It runs fine once the storage card is cleaned up/fixed.
Please ignore this reply
Isn't there any relaiable tool to defragment the SD-Card? Or doesn't it work that way
Did try PocketMechanic a couple of months ago. But the program wiped half of my SD-Card :-S
Well, not sure defragmenting the card would help... but please not that Western Europe map is very big...
Just using common sense it is easy to understand that tomtom would be slower searching for a city in the whole Europe index... while using just the country map would be of course quicker as there are less cities in the index for exemple...
Just use countries map with your prophet... you'll see the difference!
I used the Benelux Plus map (with major roads of europe) and it was lagging as well.
After I have installed the 'normal' benelux map without the major roads of europe it's running much faster.
It also calculated the routes way faster. So I guess the size of the map has some influence on how the tomtom runs on a s200 :/
Used to run better on my s100 though,.. oh well
edit: btw, you can use the normal windows application to defragment a sd card. But I don't know if this helps on a sdcard at all since it has no mechanical parts that need to seek for data.
indeed, I really don't see any interest in defragmenting a flash card...
As I said... it's perfectly normal to have tomtom slower when it have to calculate roads in surch a large map as western europe or a country map including major EU roads...
It is far better and quicker to use the countries you need as separated maps.
Well I've moved everything from my SD to my PC. After that I've copied the Benelux first to my SD then the rest of my stuff. Now my GPS connects almost immediately!
Related
Hi,
I have successfully installed TomTom 5 using BeyondTheTech's instructions, and everything works beautifully on the Great Britain map, which is about 100MB.
Yesterday I tried to switch to other maps, particularly the France map (which is about 200MB) and the Italy Plus map (which is also about 200MB too), and no way, it won't do that. What it does it freezes TomTom.
When this happens I can get to the Memory applet in Control Panel and stop TomTom, but then to restart it I need to patch the CurrentMap file in MyDocuments so that TomTom will ask which map I want to use, and only if I select Great Britain it will work fine. With the other two it just freezes as soon as I click it.
Before anybody asks, my license code is for the whole of Europe!!!!
Also, all three maps worked perfectly on my Treo 650, the device I had before the KJAM.
Anyone else has this problem?
Thanks.
I have the KJAM with TTN5 installed and i use currently the France-map without problem, also the italy-map-plus is working well. I have the navigator installed on miniSD like the maps. It's not very quick to open up, but don't freeze like you tell.
I see it freezing with italian map on my PDA2K with WM5 until i moved the navigator program from main memory to SD card. KJAM is not a PDA2k but you can try to uninstall the navigator from main memory and install it on miniSD (or move it and change the registry according to the new place).
Thanks for your reply.
My installation is indeed on the miniSD card already, not on main memory. So, I am very puzzled.
I will try and re-make the maps via the TomTom CD's and copy again to the card, and see if it makes a difference.
Can you confirm that you are able to switch maps residing on the card without problems?
Grazie (sono italiano anch'io).
Yes, i don't have problems to use the maps and i can change between them. I'm currently in France and i use a lot the france-map, but also changing back to the italian plus map is not a problem.
You put the map folder in the root of miniSD, right? And you tried to kill all the applications in background before starting TTN5? Stupid questions i know
Ciao
I have to GB maps installed and TT5 freezes near the end of any journey
and its loaded onto the mini SD card. Map includes camera data and I also have all voices loaded, rather no lose camera data but i am not sure if TT5 uses ov2, bmp or both files. Also should I trim the voice file to the one i use
Well.. till now i never see it freezing on kjam, but on my PDA2K with WM5 yes. It was freezing when i have it on main memory (then moved to SD) and when the bluetooth is off (or when pocketzenphone change profile to BT off at schedule time and i'm using TTN).
I use TTN5 with Checkpoint for POI and i have some slow down (but not freezing) when i enable a lot of POI, but if i keep only camera radar is fast enough. Ahh... and i use only one voice file, but i don't think that having many voice files it's a problem.
I was using TomTom on my previously owned Treo 650, and thought that the maps on the memory card could be reused.
I have now rebuilt all the maps from scratch using the original TomTom CD's, and now everything works great. I can switch maps with no problems.
I am also using the speed camera database from PocketGPS, and no problem at all with those either. No freezes, everything works perfectly, including Traffic.
Thanks again for the help.
Anyone managed to get tomtom installed and running, if so how did you do it, i want to install it on my storage card only
Thanks
Chris
I did nothing special, just follow the installer instructions. Which problem do you have?
It wont install on the sd card doesnt even ask then bombs out, did you install from an sd card or a cd rom and then it doesnt find the maps
I installed from cdrom and manually moved the map folders to miniSD card.
Hi,
Go to the TomTom site and download the latest update, then you can install it on the Storage Card....
You have to have legal version....
Thanks guys its all sorted, needed currentmap.dat in my docs works fine now
thanks for the pointers
Chris
TomTom
Which version of TomTom do I need to purchase for my TyTn? I live in the US.
I am using 5.21, but with spanish maps. Don't know for the US, sorry.
Thats ok. Thanks for the reply. Are you talking about TomTom Mobile or TomTom Navigation?
Duck said:
Are you talking about TomTom Mobile or TomTom Navigation?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
TomTom Navigator 5.21, that's what I'm using.
TomTom 6 work for me with North America or USA/Canada maps. I think I am currently on TT 6.201 and map Usa and Canada v 675.1409. Support told me that TT 6 would not work on Windows Mobile 6, but its works for me so far....
i got tomtom 6.03 with aussie maps 675,
works brilliantly except for the POI freezing glitch.
the 675 maps has speeds certain roads which is a nice feature providing they dont change the speed limit on the roads it has mapped LOL
Slow startup
I installed Tomtom 5.21 to main memory, map to Storage card.
But it takes a very long time for the app to start, over 1 minute.
I am running official Dopod WM6.
Anybody else duffer from slow startup and any ideas as to what can be done to improve it?
I compared TomTom 6.01 with my old TomTom 5.21 on my Magician (overclocked with XCPUScalar, 512M SunDisk UltraII SD, GlobalSat BT338 BT GPS). In short:
- slower and jumpy compared to 5.21
- no real maps upgrading (this may vary with region, I am in central Italy)
- some new marginally useful functions (this may be a matter of opinion)
Result: I dumped 6.01 and returned to 5.21
Good information.
Can we use maps from TomTom 5.00 with TomTom 5.21 ?
Thanks.
gogol said:
Good information.
Can we use maps from TomTom 5.00 with TomTom 5.21 ?
Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The maps of 5.1 and 5.21 where the same. Not sure about 5.0, probably yes.
Your test is totally wrong !! Start clocking your Magician to the original speed (416 Mhz).
With TomTom 5.21 my Magician needs ~ 20 seconds to start.
The new TomTom 6 needs exact 2 seconds! One to show the new TomTom start screen and another one to start the program.
The rest is stable like 5.21 is !
TomTom 6 - I like it.
TT6.1 is brilliant on the XDA mini II ! Far better than 5.21 and all the 6.5 maps are very uptodate.
Faster loading, better interface, better graphics... cannot be compared to 5.21
TT6 works fine for me. The maps are surely more up to date. As far as speed is concerned, I can not say it boots faster. But if you install the maps to a freshly formatted memory card, it should run smoothly. I tried 4kb and 2kb cluster size and 2kb works best for me. My device is not overclocked btw.
tomtom 6
I'd say it runs about the same. With some tweaks in pocket hackmaster it runs super. I use the Aplication speeds to set it to 650 Mhz 260 bus 65 mem and 65 lcd. Then it realy flies.
The maps are more up to date. for holland the map data is from 2006 teleatlas. The mobile / speed radars etc. Are working fine. However we in holland have more acurate and better uptodate alternatives ( flitspaal.nl)
However it includes a raster folder for images. If you use the satelite images. It does work quicker on the overview maps.
hi There
how to use a satelite images with tomtom 6
Regards
You have to install TT6 on your phone ! Not on SD or Storage !
On my MDA Compact it boots in exactly 2 seconds. Without any Overclocking. Just the standard 416Mhz.
pixelfreak said:
Your test is totally wrong !! Start clocking your Magician to the original speed (416 Mhz).
With TomTom 5.21 my Magician needs ~ 20 seconds to start.
The new TomTom 6 needs exact 2 seconds! One to show the new TomTom start screen and another one to start the program.
The rest is stable like 5.21 is !
TomTom 6 - I like it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good for you. Unfortunately, I am not the only one to report TT6 slowness and map refresh jumpiness (just google for 'TomTom 6 slow' or browse forums at www.pocketgpsworld.com). It is also true that there are lucky fellows as you that report equal or better performance for TT6. So it seems a PDA/memory/OS/GPS receiver configuration/combination dependent problem. The chase is open...
pixelfreak said:
You have to install TT6 on your phone ! Not on SD or Storage !
On my MDA Compact it boots in exactly 2 seconds. Without any Overclocking. Just the standard 416Mhz.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
TT5.21 satisfactoryly worked from SD without (startup was slow, but I do not complained about that). If much heralded TT6 is no more able to do this I would hardly call it an improvement.
TT6.01 works perfectly from SD for me, the startup is just a bit slower (maybe 1sec) compared to main memory but still way faster than TT5.21.
If you use the satelite images. It does work quicker on the overview maps
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hi to all
can anyone let me know how to use satlite images with tomtom6
Regards
sat maps, interests me too...
is that u have grafix then everywhere? like googleearth or other services?
by the way the voice (speaking) -file. what is iths name? and where is it located?
mine is gone missing after card backup+reformat+etc.....
Sat maps.
Q1.what are sat maps.
Q2. Where to get them.
Q3. Google earth ?
A1: What are sat maps.
Sat maps are a plus service and are located in the raster folder on your sd-card. They are not google earth ones Actualy it are not maps. Just static images to help rendering.
A2: Were to get them
Its a plus service so just download them from the plusmenu.
Or download them here:
TomTom Raster Europa
A:Some google earth functions can be use with the help of this program:
http://www.janboersma.nl/gett/help/ But that only helps with routing it doesn't add images.
Hope it helps, if you still have questions just ask.
PS. all jpgs include a .SAT file..
-
-12.00000
60.00000
0.00000
33.33750
2000
38000
320
711
If sombody knows what format that is. i might be possable to use your own images and overlay them in tomtom.
ok thanx! ;-)
these maps are like plus option as (picture (mapping) overlays above the vector drawn streets...
(like at goyellow(.de) or so right?)
i dont use google earth ;-)
thx, i just checked the downloaded maps...
they dont look too much detailed...
have u got an ppc screenshot with sat maps? (cant find any... will post if i fijnd them)
Guru's of the GPS world...
I need help. I now like using gps on my vzw-6800 but with rom 3.12 after all is loaded I have only 19mb of program memory. I like using Google Navigator 3.5 it locks on with radio 3.39 and good enough for me. Issue it needs 17mb to run and if I am below that it will not run. Worse if I get it running and start using other normal phone functions or apps it will crash due to lack of needed memory.
Q1
What GPS program you all use is which is not a complete memory hog or require at least 17mb in order to run?
Q2
Do gps apps which supply their own maps use less memory..if so which ones?
Please, please, please reply....I do you kind people use these apps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
Smile
parcou said:
Guru's of the GPS world...
I need help. I now like using gps on my vzw-6800 but with rom 3.12 after all is loaded I have only 19mb of program memory. I like using Google Navigator 3.5 it locks on with radio 3.39 and good enough for me. Issue it needs 17mb to run and if I am below that it will not run. Worse if I get it running and start using other normal phone functions or apps it will crash due to lack of needed memory.
Q1
What GPS program you all use is which is not a complete memory hog or require at least 17mb in order to run?
Q2
Do gps apps which supply their own maps use less memory..if so which ones?
Please, please, please reply....I do you kind people use these apps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
Smile
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Use TomTom, it doesn't slow things down too much. I can run Mortplayer while GPS is tracking with no lagging. TomTom runs GPS from the sd card which takes up very little space on the phone. I still use AstroGPSlauncher though I know it may not be needed (I am on Verizon and need to still be superstitious). Garmin is a close second, but a little different to setup.
Thx...any part version of TomTom I need to be looking at...
Others...any input or comments???????
Morning,
Soft reset, 21.1mb of mem free. Open Garmin xt, base map, topo and stock east coast map all loaded= 14.7mb free. Thats on DCD 3.04 with 3.39R. I normally run a media player with garmin tracking away and bluetooth on when i drive any distance. I haven't had any problems with memory but i have a habit of doing a soft reset every morning.
If your going to be using your gps for in city then i'd say tomtom. Garmin maps are very expensive but they are real maps. If you have used GPS devices in the past then you will be familiar with how they work. Think on this. My garmin folder on my SD is 31.4mb, 5.04mb on my device. I think tomtom used something like 900mb on the SD? Can't remember but it was alot.
Hope this helps.
Chris
Getting any of those maps...was it all a download or you have to purchase a software box to get all this...any links?
I have the maps because they came with my gps. Imagin how happy i was to find they worked with my phone!
I have a friend who did get most of it from a tourrent. I don't have the link but he said it was just to search for it. But thats at your own risk.
Apologies if this is in the wrong section, not sure where to post it.
Anyway, does you guys know which is the best software for the Touch HD?
I've heard TomTom Navigator 7 seems to work really well (but I can't find it on their website) and that Garmin has lag issues.
I currently have CoPilot, which I was really happy with on my previous phone (XDA Orbit 2), however because of the Touch HD's resolution, CoPilot is all blurry as it tries to fill the screen.
Any suggestions, or ideas on getting Copilot working fine?
Thanks,
Ashley
Personally ive used tomtom from my old N70 upto the HD and its great.
Search the forums for stuff relating to tomtom
I would suggest you check with CoPilot as they now list HD as compatible and probably have a new version.
I personally use Route66 which is very good and does not need any special Tweaks, like TT, etc.
I would also suggest to search this forum as there are several Threads that deal exactly with your question.
you could also try navigon mn7, thee's a free 30days trial available on their website... i really like it, however to run it on the hd you have to do some tweaking (exchange 3 files), which is described in the corresponding thread
Do I need data service to use the GPS?
I apologize for my ignorance question, but let's say I get one of the softwares, (tomtom) on my HD. After that do I need a data service to work on the GPS or it can work by itself ?
Data is not required for them because they use space on your SD card to hold the maps unlike google maps which downloads the maps as necessary.
My tomtom map of US and Canada takes up 800mb of my SD card.
Tomtom 7.910.9185 comes with a VGA version so it looks perfect on the HD.
dfkd said:
Data is not required for them because they use space on your SD card to hold the maps unlike google maps when downloads the maps as necessary.
My tomtom map of US and Canada takes up 800mb of my SD card.
Tomtom 7.910.9185 comes with a VGA version so it looks perfect on the HD.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's correct. BUT:
1. You do need a good size SD card - 2 gig is really a minimum as the navigation maps typically are around 1 gig
2. Most of the navigation apps do want to access the internet (normally you can disable that) so that the app can check for updates and ALSO useful stuff like POIs or traffic updates.
I have TTN7, Navngo iGo8 and Copilot installed on my THD.
Though it's the easiest to use, I rarely use TTN7 because their "Supported Devices" policy meant that they effectively 'stole' 9 months of my Traffic subscription when I upgraded to the THD and wouldn't let me activate any new maps I would have purchased - stupid really as TTN7 works beautifully on my THD and they could have got £80 out of me. I have similar problems with them with my SPV M3100 but I managed to beat them into submission in the end, but it took a full 2 months of fighting. I'll not be advising my parents to replace their dying TTOne V1 with another TT unit either - there goes another £150! Traffic and other value added services (Weather, Buddies are supplied via GPRS/3G.
iGo8 is only supplied on a 2GB SD card and is tied to it so there's no room available for any other stuff (media, etc.) which may not be a problem when you have ready access to the SD card slot but is utterly STUPID in my opinion for the THD where you'll have to constantly be taking the back cover on and off. Natively it does not appear to come with a 800x480 skin for the THD either. It is possible to move it off the SD card but then it becomes a ***** to set up and doesn't seem to store any of the setting changes you make from the menus. It doesn't have full postcode addressing, is a bit of a learning curve to use and perhaps isn't that intuitive. Traffic is supplied via TMC (requires receiver but otherwise free in the UK) and other services are limited. Terrain awareness is interesting when you get into hilly areas as are 3D buildings when you get into populous areas. All in all a bit of a geek's app.
Copilot I would say sits beween the two. Not as easy to use and customisable as TTN but not as much of a head-fit as iGo. It comes on CD (or download for the THD version) so you can use whichever SD card you like, does have full postcode addressing and traffic is supplied via GPRS/3G + subscription (half the price of TT too). The customer service team get a thumbs up from me too - over and above those 'A*!$HOLES' at TT (my opinion and not necessarily the opinion of the Xda-Developers team). Other value added services that are offered by TT are lacking. The THD version of Copilot does not come with, and I believe is incompatible with, the Copilot Central PC app.
All are supported by the defacto Speed Camera Database from PocketGPSWorld (other databases may be available! ).
I hope this has been of some help.
I find that TT7 on my HD is very reliable but basic while mobile navigator is far better quality but not very reliable atm (real view is amazing, but everytime it comes up it throws an error). Once I get mobile navigator to play nice, I think it would be the best navigator for the HD
Igo8
I have a garmin nvi in my car but I rather use my HD with Igo8 when on foot. used it in keacow, Poland last week and loved the buildings thats are added to the map