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TomTom 5 does not work with large maps?!?!?

Hi,
I have successfully installed TomTom 5 using BeyondTheTech's instructions, and everything works beautifully on the Great Britain map, which is about 100MB.
Yesterday I tried to switch to other maps, particularly the France map (which is about 200MB) and the Italy Plus map (which is also about 200MB too), and no way, it won't do that. What it does it freezes TomTom.
When this happens I can get to the Memory applet in Control Panel and stop TomTom, but then to restart it I need to patch the CurrentMap file in MyDocuments so that TomTom will ask which map I want to use, and only if I select Great Britain it will work fine. With the other two it just freezes as soon as I click it.
Before anybody asks, my license code is for the whole of Europe!!!!
Also, all three maps worked perfectly on my Treo 650, the device I had before the KJAM.
Anyone else has this problem?
Thanks.

I have the KJAM with TTN5 installed and i use currently the France-map without problem, also the italy-map-plus is working well. I have the navigator installed on miniSD like the maps. It's not very quick to open up, but don't freeze like you tell.
I see it freezing with italian map on my PDA2K with WM5 until i moved the navigator program from main memory to SD card. KJAM is not a PDA2k but you can try to uninstall the navigator from main memory and install it on miniSD (or move it and change the registry according to the new place).

Thanks for your reply.
My installation is indeed on the miniSD card already, not on main memory. So, I am very puzzled.
I will try and re-make the maps via the TomTom CD's and copy again to the card, and see if it makes a difference.
Can you confirm that you are able to switch maps residing on the card without problems?
Grazie (sono italiano anch'io).

Yes, i don't have problems to use the maps and i can change between them. I'm currently in France and i use a lot the france-map, but also changing back to the italian plus map is not a problem.
You put the map folder in the root of miniSD, right? And you tried to kill all the applications in background before starting TTN5? Stupid questions i know
Ciao

I have to GB maps installed and TT5 freezes near the end of any journey
and its loaded onto the mini SD card. Map includes camera data and I also have all voices loaded, rather no lose camera data but i am not sure if TT5 uses ov2, bmp or both files. Also should I trim the voice file to the one i use

Well.. till now i never see it freezing on kjam, but on my PDA2K with WM5 yes. It was freezing when i have it on main memory (then moved to SD) and when the bluetooth is off (or when pocketzenphone change profile to BT off at schedule time and i'm using TTN).
I use TTN5 with Checkpoint for POI and i have some slow down (but not freezing) when i enable a lot of POI, but if i keep only camera radar is fast enough. Ahh... and i use only one voice file, but i don't think that having many voice files it's a problem.

I was using TomTom on my previously owned Treo 650, and thought that the maps on the memory card could be reused.
I have now rebuilt all the maps from scratch using the original TomTom CD's, and now everything works great. I can switch maps with no problems.
I am also using the speed camera database from PocketGPS, and no problem at all with those either. No freezes, everything works perfectly, including Traffic.
Thanks again for the help.

Tomtom7 on titan?

anyone tried tt7n on the titan? i cant get it to installed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401619

I also get an error when installing. A few folks have extracted the files from the cab, renamed the files according to the xml included, and are able to use it. Now just waiting on someone to kindly post those files, but it seems like it should work soon enough.

i used wince cab manager to extract the files to the appropriate folders. still no go. when launch, it still says that the app is not compatible with the device.

here is a cab file that will work on the titan.... don't ask where to find maps you're on your own
http://rapidshare.com/files/124030856/tomtom7a.rar.html

Map won't work
I have TomTom 6 with all my maps, but they won't work with this TomTom 7. Anyone knows what I can do? Maybe where to place the files?

What is the difference in TT6 and TT7?

works
Just installed Tom Tom 7.450.9028 with USA_and_Canada 720.1803 map and it works just fine.
Be sure to put the Map and Voices in their own folder on the storage card
I have Garmin XT 50 and Tom Tom 7 on my device - both work fine. Waiting to try IGO8 whenever they finally release the version 8 maps. Come on NAV-N-GO !!!
I still prefer using my bluetooth GPS versus the onboard GPS
Mule

Muledeer said:
Just installed Tom Tom 7.450.9028 with USA_and_Canada 720.1803 map and it works just fine.
Be sure to put the Map and Voices in their own folder on the storage card
I have Garmin XT 50 and Tom Tom 7 on my device - both work fine. Waiting to try IGO8 whenever they finally release the version 8 maps. Come on NAV-N-GO !!!
I still prefer using my bluetooth GPS versus the onboard GPS
Mule
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I had them placed in their folders on the memory card and still no luck. Please can you give a step by step guide on how to do this? It would be much appreciated
Thanx

Damionix said:
I have TomTom 6 with all my maps, but they won't work with this TomTom 7. Anyone knows what I can do? Maybe where to place the files?
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there aren't any files you can just replace....
you are going to need to find new maps... here are the maps i need the internet is a great big place im sure you can fine it some where "USA_and_Canada_720.1803"

chong67 said:
What is the difference in TT6 and TT7?
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there is a lot... just install the app and find out for urself

out of curiousity.. has anyone been able to get this to work without first priming the gps? i have it installed and maps working fine, but even with the settings for the built-in device, i still have to run a separate program to initiate the gps lock...

Damionix said:
I had them placed in their folders on the memory card and still no luck. Please can you give a step by step guide on how to do this? It would be much appreciated
Thanx
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1. drop the tt7 cab file on the storage card
2. run the cab file from the PPC
3. install to storage drive - delete cab file
4. get latest map and activate it for your device
5. copy \Voices, \your map to the root directory of storage card
6. run tom tom 7
Mule

anyone got tomtom home and mapshare to work with the titan? a couple of ppl got it to work with the kaiser.

Interesting...
I currently have the latest TT6 with latest 675.xx U.S. maps. What actual changes/improvements can we expect in TT7?
I was also wondering if they have fixed an annoying bug in TT6. Any time you launch TT6 it ALWAYS defaults to disabling Audio and you have to manually go into preferences and enable it _twice_ before you get sound. This is a documented, well known issue and it deals with how TT6 detects the radio as an active data connection and thus mutes audio since it thinks a communication is open (or something like that, may have it wrong). I believe it is designed to work like this as its present in all builds but it is a bit annoying.

Alpine- said:
Interesting...
I currently have the latest TT6 with latest 675.xx U.S. maps. What actual changes/improvements can we expect in TT7?
I was also wondering if they have fixed an annoying bug in TT6. Any time you launch TT6 it ALWAYS defaults to disabling Audio and you have to manually go into preferences and enable it _twice_ before you get sound. This is a documented, well known issue and it deals with how TT6 detects the radio as an active data connection and thus mutes audio since it thinks a communication is open (or something like that, may have it wrong). I believe it is designed to work like this as its present in all builds but it is a bit annoying.
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ttn7 interface had some touch up, but remain pretty much the same as tt6. however, there are several big improvements, including the ability to use newer map and the ability of mapshare/map correction, and stronger and better routing engine. newer map is always better. all of the verson tt 6 maps were missing my cousin new area and my girlfriend's neighborhood. version 7 map has them. i havent got a chance to get mapshare working with my titan yet, but hope it would work one day. i tested the routing with tt7 by entering several destinations that im familiar with, such as my brothers and my sisters's places, parents and friends home, and tt7 gives me the best route that i would likely take. with the destinations that i have tried, i can say that routing of tt7 is much better than, iguidance, garmin xt, and tt6.
the voice/audio bug that you mentioned with tt6 6.032 is not there in tt7. for the same reason, i used tt6 6.02 instead of 6.032. tt6.02 doesnt have this issue. for some reasons, tt6.032 doesnt see your voice file at launch.

Just got this going right now after an interesting install. Works great, love having the newest map and engine. If anyone needs a walkthrough PM me and I will help as much as I can.

How do you install the maps I have the USA_and_ Canada_720.1803. Its over 800 MBs, that wont fit on my phone. Do i need just certain files out of the map folder?

ws6kid said:
How do you install the maps I have the USA_and_ Canada_720.1803. Its over 800 MBs, that wont fit on my phone. Do i need just certain files out of the map folder?
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You will need to put the map and voices folders on the root of the sd card. The program cab should be run and they will find each other.

Is there another mirror for the app (not the maps, the app)? The one posted earlier in this thread was removed from rapidshare, and this one doesn't seem to work on the titan.

Hordee said:
out of curiousity.. has anyone been able to get this to work without first priming the gps? i have it installed and maps working fine, but even with the settings for the built-in device, i still have to run a separate program to initiate the gps lock...
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I was wondering this as well.

Best Sat Nav software for HD?

Apologies if this is in the wrong section, not sure where to post it.
Anyway, does you guys know which is the best software for the Touch HD?
I've heard TomTom Navigator 7 seems to work really well (but I can't find it on their website) and that Garmin has lag issues.
I currently have CoPilot, which I was really happy with on my previous phone (XDA Orbit 2), however because of the Touch HD's resolution, CoPilot is all blurry as it tries to fill the screen.
Any suggestions, or ideas on getting Copilot working fine?
Thanks,
Ashley

Personally ive used tomtom from my old N70 upto the HD and its great.
Search the forums for stuff relating to tomtom

I would suggest you check with CoPilot as they now list HD as compatible and probably have a new version.
I personally use Route66 which is very good and does not need any special Tweaks, like TT, etc.
I would also suggest to search this forum as there are several Threads that deal exactly with your question.

you could also try navigon mn7, thee's a free 30days trial available on their website... i really like it, however to run it on the hd you have to do some tweaking (exchange 3 files), which is described in the corresponding thread

Do I need data service to use the GPS?
I apologize for my ignorance question, but let's say I get one of the softwares, (tomtom) on my HD. After that do I need a data service to work on the GPS or it can work by itself ?

Data is not required for them because they use space on your SD card to hold the maps unlike google maps which downloads the maps as necessary.
My tomtom map of US and Canada takes up 800mb of my SD card.
Tomtom 7.910.9185 comes with a VGA version so it looks perfect on the HD.

dfkd said:
Data is not required for them because they use space on your SD card to hold the maps unlike google maps when downloads the maps as necessary.
My tomtom map of US and Canada takes up 800mb of my SD card.
Tomtom 7.910.9185 comes with a VGA version so it looks perfect on the HD.
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That's correct. BUT:
1. You do need a good size SD card - 2 gig is really a minimum as the navigation maps typically are around 1 gig
2. Most of the navigation apps do want to access the internet (normally you can disable that) so that the app can check for updates and ALSO useful stuff like POIs or traffic updates.

I have TTN7, Navngo iGo8 and Copilot installed on my THD.
Though it's the easiest to use, I rarely use TTN7 because their "Supported Devices" policy meant that they effectively 'stole' 9 months of my Traffic subscription when I upgraded to the THD and wouldn't let me activate any new maps I would have purchased - stupid really as TTN7 works beautifully on my THD and they could have got £80 out of me. I have similar problems with them with my SPV M3100 but I managed to beat them into submission in the end, but it took a full 2 months of fighting. I'll not be advising my parents to replace their dying TTOne V1 with another TT unit either - there goes another £150! Traffic and other value added services (Weather, Buddies are supplied via GPRS/3G.
iGo8 is only supplied on a 2GB SD card and is tied to it so there's no room available for any other stuff (media, etc.) which may not be a problem when you have ready access to the SD card slot but is utterly STUPID in my opinion for the THD where you'll have to constantly be taking the back cover on and off. Natively it does not appear to come with a 800x480 skin for the THD either. It is possible to move it off the SD card but then it becomes a ***** to set up and doesn't seem to store any of the setting changes you make from the menus. It doesn't have full postcode addressing, is a bit of a learning curve to use and perhaps isn't that intuitive. Traffic is supplied via TMC (requires receiver but otherwise free in the UK) and other services are limited. Terrain awareness is interesting when you get into hilly areas as are 3D buildings when you get into populous areas. All in all a bit of a geek's app.
Copilot I would say sits beween the two. Not as easy to use and customisable as TTN but not as much of a head-fit as iGo. It comes on CD (or download for the THD version) so you can use whichever SD card you like, does have full postcode addressing and traffic is supplied via GPRS/3G + subscription (half the price of TT too). The customer service team get a thumbs up from me too - over and above those 'A*!$HOLES' at TT (my opinion and not necessarily the opinion of the Xda-Developers team). Other value added services that are offered by TT are lacking. The THD version of Copilot does not come with, and I believe is incompatible with, the Copilot Central PC app.
All are supported by the defacto Speed Camera Database from PocketGPSWorld (other databases may be available! ).
I hope this has been of some help.

I find that TT7 on my HD is very reliable but basic while mobile navigator is far better quality but not very reliable atm (real view is amazing, but everytime it comes up it throws an error). Once I get mobile navigator to play nice, I think it would be the best navigator for the HD

Igo8
I have a garmin nvi in my car but I rather use my HD with Igo8 when on foot. used it in keacow, Poland last week and loved the buildings thats are added to the map

Recommend GPS Softwares For X1?

Hey guys.
Im looking for GPS programs/softwares that are compatiable with the X1.
I heard many like TomTom, Garmin, etcetc..
Just wondering if there are any other recommened GPS softwares that do not require any internet connectivity. (for use especially in Asia countries)
Thanks!

TomTom doesn't require internet connectivity. I have TT7 on my X1 and do not use any data while navagating (I have not enabled QuickGPS which would use some data though).
I find TT7 very good and prefer it to my cars inbuilt gps.
I also use run.gps uv trainer as an exercise log - again no data connection needed.

A lot of GPS software don't use data. Garmin, Tomtom.. all you have to do is pre-load what maps you need on the card and your good to go.

I have tried all of them and IMHO the best one is IGO8.

Cheeze[iT] said:
A lot of GPS software don't use data. Garmin, Tomtom.. all you have to do is pre-load what maps you need on the card and your good to go.
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I've to buy the software, do I?
Or is there a free download for the software?

orelsi said:
I have tried all of them and IMHO the best one is IGO8.
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where can i get a download if it?

I really like the UI on TomTom and I've been using it in both my WinMo's. Currently v7.910 in my X1 with the latest European maps and it works like a charm.
QuickGPS is set to automatically download data only when I attach the X1 to a computer.
I am pretty convinced that other nav software like Navigon and iGO will work fine too. Stick to one of the most popular because you will be able to find much more resources on the web, POIs and such.

Are they free? Or do i have to pay for the softwares?

Needs said:
Are they free? Or do i have to pay for the softwares?
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Some are free, some you have to pay for.
Here's a good index of a lot of free GPS programs, you can read about them and see what fits your needs best:
http://www.maps-gps-info.com/fgpfw.html#WindowsMobile

what im about to request is quite demanding...
so.. please do not take it to heart.
Can you provide(or spoonfeed) me with one thats is totally free, with all maps downloaded so that i do not need internet connectivity when i use my GPS. Best is it comes with Asia maps.
(the list Flying H4x0r gave is too confusing.. and i couldnt figure which requires interenet, and which doesnt)
Thank you.

There are GPS Tools for free but there is no free navigation system on the market that does real offline navigation like TomTom, Navigon etc. So, forget it.

Google maps require an internet connection right?

mobile gmaps (google mgmaps) support online and offline maps. it is a java app and similar to google maps in operation. It does not do turn by turn navigation - but its better than nothing and its free.

garmin is your best bet. There are ways to get it free, but that would be highly ILLEGAL and i dont recommend it.

scote said:
mobile gmaps (google mgmaps) support online and offline maps. it is a java app and similar to google maps in operation. It does not do turn by turn navigation - but its better than nothing and its free.
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For offline maps, do i need to pre-download them?
So, the offline maps only allow me to find out where I am, is there right? :x
Thank you

I have installed TT7, iGo8 and Sygic Mcguider 7.70.
Bye.

hi, i got garmin mobilte installed on my x1...i dunno why, but it connects to satiellte, tells me my location n drops out instantly..how come?

im using mapking in malaysia..

mr_sheen said:
garmin is your best bet. There are ways to get it free, but that would be highly ILLEGAL and i dont recommend it.
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Garmin has some problems on my X1i.
The backlight doesn't stay on, the phone keeps entering stand by. That's really annoying, and it doesn't happen with Tom Tom 7.
Is it just me not configuring something?

[email protected] said:
Garmin has some problems on my X1i.
The backlight doesn't stay on, the phone keeps entering stand by. That's really annoying, and it doesn't happen with Tom Tom 7.
Is it just me not configuring something?
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go to settings (on your garmin) -> Display -> backlight override -> tick always on
otherwise just go to your phone setting ->system -> power -> advanced -> untick the "turn of device if not used for...."
when the system goes to sleep, it cuts off the gps connection. It took me a while to figure that out. LOL

Navigation

Hi,
i was wondering which navigation software you use on you diamonds?
I was using iGo8, I liked it, but after one trip when it started to give memory error and freeze, I decided to try TomTom.
I like TomTom, it's easy to use, but the thing is it doesn't have all good stuff for WM devices versions are stripped.

I use Navigon

i like iGO6 its better than iGO8
and it take less program memory