I compared TomTom 6.01 with my old TomTom 5.21 on my Magician (overclocked with XCPUScalar, 512M SunDisk UltraII SD, GlobalSat BT338 BT GPS). In short:
- slower and jumpy compared to 5.21
- no real maps upgrading (this may vary with region, I am in central Italy)
- some new marginally useful functions (this may be a matter of opinion)
Result: I dumped 6.01 and returned to 5.21
Good information.
Can we use maps from TomTom 5.00 with TomTom 5.21 ?
Thanks.
gogol said:
Good information.
Can we use maps from TomTom 5.00 with TomTom 5.21 ?
Thanks.
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The maps of 5.1 and 5.21 where the same. Not sure about 5.0, probably yes.
Your test is totally wrong !! Start clocking your Magician to the original speed (416 Mhz).
With TomTom 5.21 my Magician needs ~ 20 seconds to start.
The new TomTom 6 needs exact 2 seconds! One to show the new TomTom start screen and another one to start the program.
The rest is stable like 5.21 is !
TomTom 6 - I like it.
TT6.1 is brilliant on the XDA mini II ! Far better than 5.21 and all the 6.5 maps are very uptodate.
Faster loading, better interface, better graphics... cannot be compared to 5.21
TT6 works fine for me. The maps are surely more up to date. As far as speed is concerned, I can not say it boots faster. But if you install the maps to a freshly formatted memory card, it should run smoothly. I tried 4kb and 2kb cluster size and 2kb works best for me. My device is not overclocked btw.
tomtom 6
I'd say it runs about the same. With some tweaks in pocket hackmaster it runs super. I use the Aplication speeds to set it to 650 Mhz 260 bus 65 mem and 65 lcd. Then it realy flies.
The maps are more up to date. for holland the map data is from 2006 teleatlas. The mobile / speed radars etc. Are working fine. However we in holland have more acurate and better uptodate alternatives ( flitspaal.nl)
However it includes a raster folder for images. If you use the satelite images. It does work quicker on the overview maps.
hi There
how to use a satelite images with tomtom 6
Regards
You have to install TT6 on your phone ! Not on SD or Storage !
On my MDA Compact it boots in exactly 2 seconds. Without any Overclocking. Just the standard 416Mhz.
pixelfreak said:
Your test is totally wrong !! Start clocking your Magician to the original speed (416 Mhz).
With TomTom 5.21 my Magician needs ~ 20 seconds to start.
The new TomTom 6 needs exact 2 seconds! One to show the new TomTom start screen and another one to start the program.
The rest is stable like 5.21 is !
TomTom 6 - I like it.
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Good for you. Unfortunately, I am not the only one to report TT6 slowness and map refresh jumpiness (just google for 'TomTom 6 slow' or browse forums at www.pocketgpsworld.com). It is also true that there are lucky fellows as you that report equal or better performance for TT6. So it seems a PDA/memory/OS/GPS receiver configuration/combination dependent problem. The chase is open...
pixelfreak said:
You have to install TT6 on your phone ! Not on SD or Storage !
On my MDA Compact it boots in exactly 2 seconds. Without any Overclocking. Just the standard 416Mhz.
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TT5.21 satisfactoryly worked from SD without (startup was slow, but I do not complained about that). If much heralded TT6 is no more able to do this I would hardly call it an improvement.
TT6.01 works perfectly from SD for me, the startup is just a bit slower (maybe 1sec) compared to main memory but still way faster than TT5.21.
If you use the satelite images. It does work quicker on the overview maps
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hi to all
can anyone let me know how to use satlite images with tomtom6
Regards
sat maps, interests me too...
is that u have grafix then everywhere? like googleearth or other services?
by the way the voice (speaking) -file. what is iths name? and where is it located?
mine is gone missing after card backup+reformat+etc.....
Sat maps.
Q1.what are sat maps.
Q2. Where to get them.
Q3. Google earth ?
A1: What are sat maps.
Sat maps are a plus service and are located in the raster folder on your sd-card. They are not google earth ones Actualy it are not maps. Just static images to help rendering.
A2: Were to get them
Its a plus service so just download them from the plusmenu.
Or download them here:
TomTom Raster Europa
A:Some google earth functions can be use with the help of this program:
http://www.janboersma.nl/gett/help/ But that only helps with routing it doesn't add images.
Hope it helps, if you still have questions just ask.
PS. all jpgs include a .SAT file..
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-12.00000
60.00000
0.00000
33.33750
2000
38000
320
711
If sombody knows what format that is. i might be possable to use your own images and overlay them in tomtom.
ok thanx! ;-)
these maps are like plus option as (picture (mapping) overlays above the vector drawn streets...
(like at goyellow(.de) or so right?)
i dont use google earth ;-)
thx, i just checked the downloaded maps...
they dont look too much detailed...
have u got an ppc screenshot with sat maps? (cant find any... will post if i fijnd them)
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Anyone managed to get tomtom installed and running, if so how did you do it, i want to install it on my storage card only
Thanks
Chris
I did nothing special, just follow the installer instructions. Which problem do you have?
It wont install on the sd card doesnt even ask then bombs out, did you install from an sd card or a cd rom and then it doesnt find the maps
I installed from cdrom and manually moved the map folders to miniSD card.
Hi,
Go to the TomTom site and download the latest update, then you can install it on the Storage Card....
You have to have legal version....
Thanks guys its all sorted, needed currentmap.dat in my docs works fine now
thanks for the pointers
Chris
TomTom
Which version of TomTom do I need to purchase for my TyTn? I live in the US.
I am using 5.21, but with spanish maps. Don't know for the US, sorry.
Thats ok. Thanks for the reply. Are you talking about TomTom Mobile or TomTom Navigation?
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Are you talking about TomTom Mobile or TomTom Navigation?
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TomTom Navigator 5.21, that's what I'm using.
TomTom 6 work for me with North America or USA/Canada maps. I think I am currently on TT 6.201 and map Usa and Canada v 675.1409. Support told me that TT 6 would not work on Windows Mobile 6, but its works for me so far....
i got tomtom 6.03 with aussie maps 675,
works brilliantly except for the POI freezing glitch.
the 675 maps has speeds certain roads which is a nice feature providing they dont change the speed limit on the roads it has mapped LOL
Slow startup
I installed Tomtom 5.21 to main memory, map to Storage card.
But it takes a very long time for the app to start, over 1 minute.
I am running official Dopod WM6.
Anybody else duffer from slow startup and any ideas as to what can be done to improve it?
I am running Tomtom 6.010 (7720) on my Prophet at clock speed 240 Omap. Startup of the app is fast but then when I load the whole "Western Europe" map and navigate with it the arrow on the map moves only laggy and slow. Its like there is a skip lag to every refresh. I tried taking away all POI and loading a smaller map (benelux single) it does not seem to help. How can i get things a little Smoother?
Thanks for advice.
Hi,I have the same version of tomtom 6 with only france map and the original cpu clock:it runs correctly.Your problem is the western map is bigger than france map ( only 200 Mo and western 1,5 go i think ),so it's normal tomtom runs slowly,especially with a lot of poi in the map.
I also had a very slow TomTom6 (way much slower than TT5)
I formatted the card, copied the TT6 Europe map, and is was way much faster that TT5 with only BeneluxPlus.
It seems that TT6 realy has problems with speed on fragmented storage cards.
RommelAcc said:
I also had a very slow TomTom6 (way much slower than TT5)
I formatted the card, copied the TT6 Europe map, and is was way much faster that TT5 with only BeneluxPlus.
It seems that TT6 realy has problems with speed on fragmented storage cards.
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This is correct. It runs fine once the storage card is cleaned up/fixed.
Please ignore this reply
Isn't there any relaiable tool to defragment the SD-Card? Or doesn't it work that way
Did try PocketMechanic a couple of months ago. But the program wiped half of my SD-Card :-S
Well, not sure defragmenting the card would help... but please not that Western Europe map is very big...
Just using common sense it is easy to understand that tomtom would be slower searching for a city in the whole Europe index... while using just the country map would be of course quicker as there are less cities in the index for exemple...
Just use countries map with your prophet... you'll see the difference!
I used the Benelux Plus map (with major roads of europe) and it was lagging as well.
After I have installed the 'normal' benelux map without the major roads of europe it's running much faster.
It also calculated the routes way faster. So I guess the size of the map has some influence on how the tomtom runs on a s200 :/
Used to run better on my s100 though,.. oh well
edit: btw, you can use the normal windows application to defragment a sd card. But I don't know if this helps on a sdcard at all since it has no mechanical parts that need to seek for data.
indeed, I really don't see any interest in defragmenting a flash card...
As I said... it's perfectly normal to have tomtom slower when it have to calculate roads in surch a large map as western europe or a country map including major EU roads...
It is far better and quicker to use the countries you need as separated maps.
Well I've moved everything from my SD to my PC. After that I've copied the Benelux first to my SD then the rest of my stuff. Now my GPS connects almost immediately!
Hi all -
Is there ANY legitimate (non-warez) software for the Diamond that has US maps?
Tomtom - Version 6 doesn't list Diamond as a supported device, not sure it does VGA resolution, Version 7 there's no legitimate source for US maps.
iGo - no US maps
CoPilot - no US maps
Route 66 - seems to require an SD card
Garmin Mobile - requires SD card
Ostia - requires SD card
I just want to legitimately use my Diamond for navigation, but having a hard time finding any options. I've searched through the forums, but had no luck.
Thanks in advance!
Mike
landshark said:
Tomtom - Version 6 doesn't list Diamond as a supported device, not sure it does VGA resolution, Version 7 there's no legitimate source for US maps.
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you sure about that? i have them on my tomtom7 and they work perfect (aside from missing some new construction)
google maps
My Diamond came with Route66 on a DVD. However I needed to contact the supportdesk since i couldn't install it using the standard setup. They emailed me how to install it without using the setup.exe; search this forum or google and you find instructions how to install route66 on your diamond.
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And windows live search
tomtom works fine on the diamond - I have V6 and have used US maps on it.
Garmin Mobile XT
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=11413
...you're going to seed SD though...
Why don't you just copy the contents of the SD card's maps to your phone's Internal Storage? That's what I did and I've been able to use both TomTom and now OnCourse Navigator (iGO) 8.
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tomtom works fine on the diamond - I have V6 and have used US maps on it.
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Hi Ewans -
Thanks for your reply. I had a couple questions if you dont mind:
I have Tomtom 6 on my old P3600. I'm guessing you purchased a Version 6 DVD and used that to load up your Diamond.
- Does TomTom 6 support the Diamond's VGA resolution?
- When you loaded it on your device, did the TomTom Home software recognize your device? If not, did you have to select a device from a list and which device did you select?
- I'm pretty sure TomTom stopped supporting the Ver. 6 maps. It's a bummer but I can live with it. Can you confirm your experiece / have you been able to update your maps?
Thanks!!!!
Mike
ND4SPD said:
Why don't you just copy the contents of the SD card's maps to your phone's Internal Storage? That's what I did and I've been able to use both TomTom and now OnCourse Navigator (iGO) 8.
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Hi ND -
Is OnCourse a part of iGo? The reason I ask is because the OnCourse site lists US maps, but the software is apparently only capable of 320 x 240 (QVGA) resolution, while I think iGo 8 is capable of full 640 x 480 (VGA). If I could use the iGo 8 with the OnCourse US maps, that would be a good solution.
Were there any issues with just copying the SD data to your device? Others such as Garmin have required all sorts of finagling to get them to work such as keygens and such, and I really want to avoid any of that.
Thanks!
Mike
TomTom
Just to add another older version, I run TomTom 5 on my Diamond in the USA with no problems at all.
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Hi ND -
Is OnCourse a part of iGo? The reason I ask is because the OnCourse site lists US maps, but the software is apparently only capable of 320 x 240 (QVGA) resolution, while I think iGo 8 is capable of full 640 x 480 (VGA). If I could use the iGo 8 with the OnCourse US maps, that would be a good solution.
Were there any issues with just copying the SD data to your device? Others such as Garmin have required all sorts of finagling to get them to work such as keygens and such, and I really want to avoid any of that.
Thanks!
Mike
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You can definitely get US maps for iGo (i'm running it), but I'm not sure of the legality of it, so it's probably best not to discuss it here.
Sygic!
I know for a fact that Sygic DRIVE, also known as McGuider, works.
www.sygic.com, www.mcguider.com or directly from TeleAtlas.
quibard said:
I know for a fact that Sygic DRIVE, also known as McGuider, works.
www.sygic.com, www.mcguider.com or directly from TeleAtlas.
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Hi Qui - thanks for pointing them out, hadn't seen them before. I can't see if they offer US maps though, do they?
Thanks!
Mike
nomer said:
Garmin Mobile XT
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=11413
...you're going to seed SD though...
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Hi Nomer -
I like the Garmin software, especially since it has nautical maps available. However, I read elsewhere that the SD card version can't be used with our phones because there is an internal code that prevents their software from being used without the SD. Since I don't want any keygen or other cracks, I don't think this is an option. Anything I do I want to have be fuloly supported by the company and their service department.
Mike
landshark said:
Hi ND -
Is OnCourse a part of iGo? The reason I ask is because the OnCourse site lists US maps, but the software is apparently only capable of 320 x 240 (QVGA) resolution, while I think iGo 8 is capable of full 640 x 480 (VGA). If I could use the iGo 8 with the OnCourse US maps, that would be a good solution.
Were there any issues with just copying the SD data to your device? Others such as Garmin have required all sorts of finagling to get them to work such as keygens and such, and I really want to avoid any of that.
Thanks!
Mike
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Yeah, OnCourse is the name for iGo in the United States. You can use the maps from one for the other since it is the same. For copying the contents, the only problem I ran into was that it couldn't find the directory where the maps are located. To overcome that, you'll need to do a search of the Diamond thread, but the most important thing is to change a certain config file so that it reads from the Internal Storage instead of SD.
Good luck!
landshark said:
Hi Ewans -
Thanks for your reply. I had a couple questions if you dont mind:
I have Tomtom 6 on my old P3600. I'm guessing you purchased a Version 6 DVD and used that to load up your Diamond.
- Does TomTom 6 support the Diamond's VGA resolution?
- When you loaded it on your device, did the TomTom Home software recognize your device? If not, did you have to select a device from a list and which device did you select?
- I'm pretty sure TomTom stopped supporting the Ver. 6 maps. It's a bummer but I can live with it. Can you confirm your experiece / have you been able to update your maps?
Thanks!!!!
Mike
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My version of TT6 was on an SD card. I just changed the communication mode on the TD from Activsync to USB and connected it to the PC. Then put SD card in card reader and copied all files over. When I unplugged the USB lead TT automatically started to instal (that got me panicing a bit!). Went through normal installation, got correct code from TTcodes and it installed and automically found the internal receiver.
No new version 6 maps coming out, but plenty of old ones still for sale from TT - I bought one for Southern Africa a few weeks ago and could not find any errors in it when I used it when driving around Western Cape province on holiday.
TT6 works fine with the VGA screen - but everything is smaller - I find I now use 3D view rather than 2D I used to as that comes up bigger (as it does on all screens)
Another poster here today says when he installed TT Home 2.5 and plugged in his TD it automatically offered him a free copy of TT7.9 along with demo map. Still have to buy version 7 maps but they are more up to date than version 6 - although there have been lots of reports of them still not showing changes in roads.
landshark said:
Tomtom - Version 6 doesn't list Diamond as a supported device, not sure it does VGA resolution, Version 7 there's no legitimate source for US maps.
iGo - no US maps
CoPilot - no US maps
Route 66 - seems to require an SD card
Garmin Mobile - requires SD card
Ostia - requires SD card
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Navigon Mobile Navigator 5 works on the Diamond and European and US maps are available. I believe it must be the same for MN6 and 7.
Wow, just saw this, TomTom maps for US and Canada - anyone know if these will work with TT7???
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16858194038
ahh..bummer, probably not...
Compatibility: TomTom GO series, ONE, RIDER, or NAVIGATOR 6
landshark said:
Wow, just saw this, TomTom maps for US and Canada - anyone know if these will work with TT7???
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16858194038
ahh..bummer, probably not...
Compatibility: TomTom GO series, ONE, RIDER, or NAVIGATOR 6
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Landshark - at the moment TT are not listing any maps for US or Canada for TTN7 - presumably because no legal version of that is available there. Strangely they do list maps for Mexico and Brazil!
In reality the price quoted for those (presumably Version 6) maps seems expensive - you can download US & Canada maps (version 6.75) direct from TT website for $70.
I have spent the evening reading all the posts on navigation. Have tried Tom Tom 6 and 7 with out success, tried the versions below:
TomTom 7 V7.450
TomTom 7 V7.910 (9185)(free ram 122.6)
TomTom 6 V6.033 (8358)
Please help, device just locks up
i tried to use many programs but they didnt work properly then i used Igo8 its perfect try it out
i have Garmin Mobile XT version 5 with 2009 maps. everything works fine but there is a lag of about 1-3secounds i guess? its fine but annoying when you have to do a couple turns one after another.. but oh well.. good enough. i tried Tom Tom 7.9 and 7.4 and they worked but i didn't like the layout and features\\
EDIT: im trying to get rid of the lag but im not sure how... does anyone have an SD card tune up? or know anything else i can do?
I'm using Tomtom 7.910 build 9185 with the 815.2024 maps, and it works like a charm. Try getting another version with the same buidl as mine.
Route 66
Have a look at "route 66" (66.com). seems to be working on a HD.
hm ... i got the v7.450 version workin on my hd.
TomTom 7.910 / Map v675 - West Europe.
Installation using the cab for TT and tomtom home for the map.
No lag, no installation issue, it just works.
Can you post the cab? Maybe mine is bad
aimache said:
TomTom 7.910 / Map v675 - West Europe.
Installation using the cab for TT and tomtom home for the map.
No lag, no installation issue, it just works.
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http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VJUP3XXT
This is the .cab i used and it works fine
Assuming I use this cab on my HD and it works, what do i have to do to get maps for it?
I assume i go to tomtom.com -> maps and choose Navigator 7 there, but then it asks for which device I want the map... does it matter what I choose there?
edit: tested the cab, seems to work, but of course i have neither voices nor maps. Have to try to get those...
edit2: if i try to add something to the device using tomtom home it always tells me that i have the wrong version of tomtom installed and that i therefore cannot use tomtom home. so, how do i get the standardvoices or a (at the moment purely hypothetic) seperately bought map onto the HD?
thanks for those who have already tested several of these navigator to give their opinion.
I am gonna buy one of them but which one, that is another problem.
For now, I am balanced between igo8 and navigon 7.
iGo8...........
I've tried TomTom7 and Navigon 7. Both work fine, but TomTom 7.910 is seriously sluggish when navigating.
Navigon updates the screen much faster, and has a much more modern and polished look (I'd almost say eye-candy) - it's like comparing (something produced with) MS Paint vs PhotoShop. Navigon is very sluggish when entering city names and addresses, but I noticed that I could type ahead - even though the screen appeared frozen, the GUI would eventually catch up with every letter.
My slant is still towards TomTom though, but just because I find the menus and controls more intuitive (plus, I'm used to it from earlier versions). This occasion has been my first with Navigon.
I may have a-go (haha) with IGo soon.
At least you could have started a poll. Now you will have to count. But I will help you out here. iGO8 will win. It is the most appealing navigation software for PDA's. Maybe not the best, but the most tweakable for sure. And we all like tweaking
David
iGO 8, no doubt.
Yeah iGO8 is the my choice as well! anyone found 800x480 skins???
Postcodes
Hi
Could UK users of iGO8 tell me if it does postcodes or just addresses?
TIA
Cheers
BimB
Postcodes
There is an extensive review of the iGO 8 here which looks at UK postcodes
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/navngo-igomyway8-review-hmnx4.php
Myself, I still can't bring myself to buy it, despite it looking impressive, I just couldn't keep swapping microSD cards all the time.
Thanks for that.
Pretty good review!
BimB
Just some questions:
- Does Navigon support Traffic Information as TT7 does?
- Does IGO8 support Traffic Information as TT7 does?
As far as I could see, only TT7 supports traffic information over the GPRS/UMTS-connection together with the built-in GPS.
umexed said:
Yeah iGO8 is the my choice as well! anyone found 800x480 skins???
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Haven't tried personally, but would be interested to know if it works...
http://artwork-igo8.blogspot.com/2008/10/igo8-ultra-skin-v502-with-high.html
iGO8 or navigon 7
Im using iGO 8 and Navigon 7 with my HD. I do'nt like TomTom.
When I'm making long distances on the highway I like Igo8 the most because it has a smartzoom function and gives an automatic 2D map overview during traveling.
When I'm traveling from France to the UK Navigon does'nt recognize the channel tunnel he's always using the ferrylines. (perhaps my mistake) In Switserland the tunnelmode in Igo is perfect.
For shorter city trips and when I'm, traveling in a high traffic density Navigon is superior with his excellent TMC module and better voice commands. Igo8 has a sluggish TMC support. It does not recognize all trafficjams and makes a lot of mistakes when it's recalculating a new route. Also the Navigon maps are more up to date.
The Navigon TMC module only supports the GNS TMC protocol. Igo8 supports more protocols, so I'm using two GPS/TMC devices. A less sensitive ans slow GNS mouse with Navigon and a fast and sensitive Royaltek GPS/TMC mouse with iGO8.
All installed...
I have Navigon MN7, iGo 8 and Tomtom 7 installed on my HD !! ;-)
My point of view :
- Tomtom 7 has the less accurate maps and the World's ugliest graphical interface, however it's very fast !
- iGo 8 use the same not so accurate maps as Tomtom ! For example, two hold gas-stations close to my home are missing, and the speed limit are often wrong.
- Navigon MN7 has by far the nicest interface and more accurate maps... + Reality View… + Text-to-speech for road’s name…
So for me, the choice is easy :
1 : Navigon MN7
2 : iGo 8
3 : Tomtom 7
I'm likely to be in the same boat soon (choosing a sat nav solution). But there seams to be alot of confusion around traffic options for the UK.
Anyone able to give clear UK specific info for the traffic update options for each of the candidates...
Thanks,
Zuber
Am I right in thinking that there is no Australian maps for Navigon? So for us down here it is TomTom or Igo?
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Rolud said:
I have Navigon MN7, iGo 8 and Tomtom 7 installed on my HD !! ;-)
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Hi Rolud,
how do you work with iGO 8 and other tools: you change storage cards or is it an iGO version you can install on a larger storage card?
I'm not requesting a "warez" solution, just to get practical registration info.
Thanks for info.
Good tracks.
Actually the 3 softwares are installed on the very same 8Gb SDHC card, included with the Touch HD...
And everything is working fine...
May as well have may say then!
How can you look past tomtom? It's the original and this newer version is far superior to V6 which in itself was awesome. V7 is on my Blackstone right now and works fine (by the way, if anyone is having issues trying to get it to run on their system, just PM me and i'll help all i can with what bits i have on my pc).
Currently running... tomtom 7.450.9028 which seems super stable and the maps to match... not V6 as we should all know by now, they aren't compatible!
Anyway, i've seen the other options you have mentioned in use in more than one location and personally, not impressed. At the end of the day though... it's your choice and (if you really want to go down this route) your cash!!!
TheShowStopper
definitive igo8 with NAVTEQ maps
here , the best ....
http://www.i-go8.com/