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Help! Weird problems on my jasjar

I have a jasjar recently and had problems turning off at 50 percent. It was working fine as long as power odesnt drop below 50 %. Then I bought a desktop charger (made in china) and started charging from there. That's when all this weird problems started.
When I put the fully charged battery inside sometimes it doesn't power on by pressing the power ubtton so I have to reset it to turn on. Sometimes it doesn't turn on with reset so I have to go to bootloader then reset just to turn it on. Sometimes it just won't turn on! If it does turn on sometimes the screen is white! When it does boot properly and go on standby. The lights blink but it won't wake up so I have to reset it. Sometimes while using it, the screen would just turn garbled white.
This don't happen all the time, Im actually typing this post using my jasjar and even if I charge the battery using the phone, it exhibits the same problems once in awhile.
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Any ideas? Could the battery be doing this or is my jasjar messed up? Please help!

I downgraded to wm 5 Helmi ROM and seems to work for now. I was using Helmi's wm6 so I don't know if that attributed to that. Will update.

Still didn't help.. Any ideas? Is my jasjar dying? Please help!

Battery issues
Here and elsewhere are postings which make it apparent that some after-market batteries don't work well with the Jasjar. Some electronic devices are relatively fussy about voltage and amperage levels, and some off-brand batteries are fairly wide of the mark in those regards. Not necessarily on the low side, either.
The problem is not limited just to computers. I had an electronic remote reading thermometer whose display went nuts; the manufacturer asked whether I was using EverReady or Duracell batteries. When I replied no, I was using Ikea batteries, they told me I had to use EverReady or Duracell batteries or I was likely to encounter the problem, and they're right: using those batteries fixed the problem. Not that the Ikea batteries were bad, mind you: their power level (voltage and amperage both) were actually too high, according to the manufacturer, and my VOM tester confirmed their assertion.
Somewhere on this forum is a link to an eBay supplier of batteries which work reliably in the Jasjar. Good hunting! Cheers,

Thanks but I'm using the original battery. So do you think that the desktop charger did something to the battery?

may be it caused by a desktop charger. When i used a chaeger made in chine for my alpine, sometime the screen goes white, or ALL buttons seems die (All button didn't work). The most terrible is that charger make my dive hard reset 2 times (first time i din't realise if it cause by my charger, then i just install all progs but when i charge, it hard reset again).
Even for 5 days after i bought it run well, except the ringtone goes on silent every time i charging.
Now i throw away that thing.

So its the charger!! GRRR...Anyways, even when I'm using the Jasjar to charge, everything is the same. Lockups from standby, white screen..You think I should try another battery? Any ideas?

Weird stuff / battery related?
Hi there,
dont know if anyone is reading this thread coz it is kinda old, but i have the same probs mention as above. I have the orginal bat and charger which came with the device. I also uses a car charger sold from my phone provider.
now after 14 months i have the weirdest things like shutting down randomly when the bat is about 58 thru 50 percent. I can not start the device again coz it stops in the middle of the boot process. It only starts when i connect it to a laptop by usb or to the standalone charger...
I tried differnt roms found here and radio roms but it doesnt help...
my guestion: does any one know if this prob is solved when I buy a new battery? or is it wise to thro out this universel suck device ( I have had so much probs with this device so neglect my tone...)

XCube said:
Hi there,
dont know if anyone is reading this thread coz it is kinda old, but i have the same probs mention as above. I have the orginal bat and charger which came with the device. I also uses a car charger sold from my phone provider.
now after 14 months i have the weirdest things like shutting down randomly when the bat is about 58 thru 50 percent. I can not start the device again coz it stops in the middle of the boot process. It only starts when i connect it to a laptop by usb or to the standalone charger...
I tried differnt roms found here and radio roms but it doesnt help...
my question: does any one know if this prob is solved when I buy a new battery? or is it wise to thro out this universel suck device ( I have had so much probs with this device so neglect my tone...)
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I bought my Universal (Jasjar), used, almost a year ago and use it daily. To date, I haven't had this problem, but I'm anticipating it. Yeah, I'd say it's almost surely your battery (they don't live forever), just be careful to replace it from a reliable source.
Sorry you don't like the device; I've thoroughly enjoyed mine! Cheers,

Hi,
I guess u r right, batteries will die. So I ordered a new one, I will let you guys know if it helps. I bought the qtek 35H00058-00M battery which is the orginal bat
The thing is, normally will a battery be faster drain so it would become faster 0 or 10 precent, instead this piece randomly shutting down or switches off in the middle of a phone call.
I have a Blue Angel as well, now for more then 2 years, which is charger daily just like mine unversal. The batt of the Blue Angel outruns the uni with bat life. Never had this weird stuff with the ba, like shuttingdown without a warning.
Well I will see if a new bat will fix the trouble, tomorrow my new bat will arrive.
cheers.

I also have the same issue with the 02 Exec. It switches it's self off when the battery reaches below 50%. I have ordered a new battery. Will let you know if this still happens once it arrives.

Well,
I already knew it but now its for sure at my end. HTC and ms together gives u pretty expansive CRAP.
Got my new battery which was carefully chosen because of other rumours of battery problems. I bought exactly the same battery from QTEK as the original.
Yesterday i got the battery, left it alone to get on room temp. this morning switch it with my old battery.
1. First thing what i found strange was that my **** device said it was at 100%
2. after 45 min I had the same bat prob as with my old battery
3. device can not be started on bat power, which would let u think that the bat would be ZERO procent. However turning the device on when on wall power this **** device says that the bat is 100%, but disconnecting it from the wall power it shutdowns right away.
conclusion:
the new battery is worse then the old bat. the only difference between them is the serial number. same type same manufacturer.
I was already think of buying a non HCT / Micro**** mobile device, but today after 14 months of trouble and losing important phone calls I am going to say good bye to this universal crap.
I wise u the best with our device but for me it ends here.

UPDATE:
Used a 3800 mah battery from expansys, made in Taiwan by Dyna and still same problems...not battery related at all...Anybody got a mainboard they can sell me...even a broken miniusb.

Problem and solution found
The Problem is a faulty voltage controller in the mainboard causing Bulverde CPU to hang and give funny colors to the screen
Solution is to disable Cpu scaling of Bulverde by using pocket hack master and setting speed at 312mhz before turning it of or closing the screen. You could always set it at 520 when using it but before turning it off make sure speed is 312. Hopefully this helps others with this problem.

Batteries shorting out on Hermes

I've had my Hermes now for 7 months, and I'm on my third battery. The OEM lasted about 6 months, the extended battery lasted 3 months.
There's no warning...just shuts off and will not turn back on...ever with those batteries. Replace the battery, and it works fine.
Anyone else have this happen? I also have a Wizard for that's a couple of years old and it's still on the original battery.

tvone said:
I've had my Hermes now for 7 months, and I'm on my third battery. The OEM lasted about 6 months, the extended battery lasted 3 months.
There's no warning...just shuts off and will not turn back on...ever with those batteries. Replace the battery, and it works fine.
Anyone else have this happen? I also have a Wizard for that's a couple of years old and it's still on the original battery.
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Need more detail. I assume you charged it occasionally
Did you find the battery drained excessively quickly - say in just a couple of hours?
Have you ever hard reset the phone?
What happened with these batteries when you tried re-charging them?
Did you get the constant red LED when charging?
Mike

I have the same problem, it takes about 5 h to drain the batteri:-(
I start up the phone and leave it on the desk without doing anything.... and after 5 h the batteri is dead.
I have installed the latest rom, tried without the sim-card, everything!
The problem started from one day to the other.
mvh lars

mikechannon said:
Need more detail. I assume you charged it occasionally
I usually throw it on the charger every night.
Did you find the battery drained excessively quickly - say in just a couple of hours? No, the batteries behaved fine, with streaming and programs being used like word and PIE, it will last all day.
Have you ever hard reset the phone?
I've hard-reset a few times...currently running BlackIV and 1.41. The first battery died using Black 2.5 and then 3.0. BTW- love the BlackIV.
What happened with these batteries when you tried re-charging them?
Red light on the phone, and they get HOT!
Did you get the constant red LED when charging? With the dead batteries yes, with a new battery, no.
Mike
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I now have ordered a couple of extra batteries just to have around. I don't want to have to wait a week for a battery.

tvone said:
I now have ordered a couple of extra batteries just to have around. I don't want to have to wait a week for a battery.
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Well that's a puzzler alright. I can understand 1 maybe even two batteries ending up faulty but more than that! Now if you were just getting the red LED then we might have considered a not infrequent problem folks report here on that situation (usually caused by the battery draining to a very low level and refusing to start charging again). BUT you said your battery despite the not charging, red LED, gets hot and that I have not seen reported.
To be honest I think you may have a hardware fault (possibly intermittent that is damaging the battery. Likely sources of the fault would be the battery connections (poor contacts at battery or at m/board) or in the battery charging controller circuit. Just possible that it might be at the USB socket. Non of these apart from a routine check of the battery contacts are easy to check, which of course is a real pain if you are out of warranty.
Mike

Just a thought - but do you have access or could you aquire a desktop cradle with a slot for charging a spare battery? (Available for about £10ukp on ebay and other various places)
If you're out of warranty (or even in warranty), firstly this would give you a chance to keep your batteries charged without charging in your Hermes itself (and hopefully eliminate a hardware fault). Also, some of your knackered batteries may be "recovered" by charging them in an external charging cradle.
I had a red-light charging problem with ONE battery myself which was cured by charging the battery overnight in a cradle rather than in the device itself.
...might be worth a try?

My battery function is a little strange too, though I haven't had my 8525 long enough to have killed the battery.
I charge it on a USB cable. It charges very quickly, and when it is charged I unplug it. After this, the battery drains VERY fast and the device gets hot. It is NOT hot while charging. If the device goes into sleep mode after this, it won't wake up w/o a soft reset.
I've found that doing a soft reset right after charging fixes this behavior. It's almost like my 8525 does not realize it has been unplugged from the USB cable, and it overstresses the battery by trying to draw too much power from it.
Usually my battery will last three to four days even with heavy use, provided I soft-reset it when I'm done charging it. If I don't, it will last just a few hours -- though I typically end up having to soft reset it anyway because as I said if it goes into sleep mode after charging it, it won't come out of it w/o doing the soft reset.
It might be a good general rule to perform a soft reset after charging this thing. It's worked for me, anyway.

I also developed the dreaded white screen problem too. After talking with At&T Business Customer Service, they overnighted a new phone.
Just speculation...I think it was some type of hardware failure that caused the batteries to run hot and fail. I feel this also contributed to white screen from excessive heat.
New phone ran fine all weekend. Charging did not generate heat, and had no white screen of death.
Side note...WM5 is horrible compared to the latest WM6 upgrades found here. I couldn't wait to get this phone re-flashed!

Yeah ... it sounds like it is definitely necessary to soft-reset after charging.

XDA Exec wont last more than 20 minutes

Hello,
I know that there have been previous discussions on battery problems, but after doing my best to read through, I'm still a bit unsure and wasn't able to find an exact solution nor an identical match to my problem.
My problem is that recently my XDA Exec has gone from lasting around 6 or 7 hours to less than 20 minutes when using GPRS on lowest backlight and no sound.
When it goes off, the battery meter still has aroubd 95% left showing so it is really quite puzzling. What happens is that after around 20 minutes, the LCD just fades away into black and the device completely dies, no sign of life.
Trying to turn it on or reset it both result in a soft reset, and the device comes up to the O2 Logo fine, loads for a few seconds, gets to the WM logo screen and then the LCD fades away and it dies again.
The only solution is to connect it up to the power, after which it then works fine while powered, indicating some sort of power or battery problem. When plugged back in, the battery meter is still at around 90% or so and goes all he way back up to 100%.
Does anyone have any ideas as to what might be the problem and what might be a good solution? Would buying a new battery help (although the battery meter does indicate the battery is still nearly full and estimates around 6 hours usage)? Do I need to send it in for repair?
Thanks very much in advance, any advice or help would be greatly appreciated
Quboid

You should wait for the experts to help but from my intuition it really sounds like a battery problem. Lithium batteries can act very strangely if they are faulty. If nothing else works you may want to try and get a new one. Better than throwing the device in my opinion.

I don't know that I'd count myself with the "experts," but my similar problem was solved by getting a new battery. Mine too would "fade" off and then only come back on when it was plugged in. And the "fade" happened at around 70% power, so by all appearances it should have had much more time left. This was a battery that was about 15 months old, but with quite a bit of daily usage.
Go for the new battery.

Welcome to about 10 months ago when this happened to almost everybody. Get a new battery, problem solved.

Thanks for the replies,
I guess I was just surprised it might be the battery itself that's dieing, seeing as the fact it still shows charge and that it doesn't get heavy usage, only a few times per month and it's only just gone a year and furthermore, compared to my old Pocket PC which had a lot more usage and still is working fine seven years later.
Am I right in thinking that this is what I need to purchase? Wouldn't want to get the wrong thing
Thanks again for the help

Quboid said:
Am I right in thinking that this is what I need to purchase? Wouldn't want to get the wrong thing
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That's the one!

Right, i have looked at most of these battery problems and my issue is the same as Quboid so, of I toddle off and purchase a new battery and guess what..!! Still the same, the damm thing shuts down with around 85% full charge.
What I cannot accept is the fact that this problem suddenly appears after no battery issues for the 12 months of owning the unit, you would have thought if the battery was going belly up that it would gradually happen but no...it just happens..!!, now is it that the new battery is dead...not so sure becasue at the place i work there are several universals around amd i have tried different batteries and still the same problem...
Could it be something to do with the unerversal thinking the battery is dead or is it reading a false level of charge...do you need to hard reset when adding a new battery..??
This is getting me down, after months of no problems there is nothing worse than a dead machine after 20 minutes of a full charge.

on ebay you can find batteries that could be docked into a sort of charger and charge without the use of the fone.
are these any good?

It depends on the type of the battery. If you just take your phone to the shop where you bought it, and have them give you a new battery, you'll be fine.
The original batteries only last about 6-10 months, and then they will need replacing.

Thats what i have, a new battery from the suppliers...

I've got the same problem.
My XDA dies after about ten minute's use with a full battery. I have purchased a new battery and it still dies.
I've reinstalled the ROM -- which is the standard latest O2 ROM.
I've tried it on the O2 setup, and the non-O2 setup.
I'm running nothing extra software wise -- even completely clean it dies.
I wanted to keep it running until the Omni or I-Mate Ultimate 7150 comes out, so this is really a pain.
Any other suggestions gratefully received.

hmm
theambler said:
I've got the same problem.
My XDA dies after about ten minute's use with a full battery. I have purchased a new battery and it still dies.
I've reinstalled the ROM -- which is the standard latest O2 ROM.
I've tried it on the O2 setup, and the non-O2 setup.
I'm running nothing extra software wise -- even completely clean it dies.
I wanted to keep it running until the Omni or I-Mate Ultimate 7150 comes out, so this is really a pain.
Any other suggestions gratefully received.
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My oh My,..
i got the same exact problem, i bought two new betteries one of them is 3150mAh
downgraded to O2 rom official, and still dies at 85%
i was thinking about getting a desktop charger. till i noticed something..
when you charge your handset it charges up 100% but the charger indicator light remains on orange. (and says charging on the soft version)
it should turn green when its full, now shouldnt it.
leaving the phone to charge till the light turns green and ignoring the software reader could charge the battery, (it would still die at 85% thought)
weird problem.. i am sure now that it is a handset problem, because both the battery and the OS (rom) were changed, and still with same results.
can anyone think of something we can try?

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come on ppl.. think.. lols

i heva that problem to!!
hi thare i have the that problem to any way to fix it ?

I have the similar problem, except it dies at cca. 30% capacity.
As I can see there are a lot of users with this problem on this device.
I am new to this device, I've been using Wizard till now and just recently bought the Universal that is over a year old.
This battery problem really iritates me.
If ANYONE has a solution to this problem that will actually work I beg him to share it with us that are new to this device.

Well, this seems to be a problem that cannot be answered, as i mentioned before, my unit is a M5000, standard issue without any rom upgrades, new battery from from the Orange shop yet it still fails at even 95%. Gonna try a hard reset because I am sure it is a software issue, i did read somewere that the machine "thinks" it is fully charged/discharged and when you put a new battery in you need to do a re set to position the unit to basic state.
Lets see what happens.

My battery problem solved
Short time ago I suffered likewise problems with my MDA pro. After reading all the comments I decided to go for a new battery from handit. With this installed the problems even worsened, regardless which charger, or cable, or combination thereof, I used. So I swallowed my avarice and bought a new battery from T-Mobile, assured that this is the one they deliver with their phones, and now everything works fine!
It seems that there are slight differences between the batteries from diefferent manufacturers, and the pro might misinterpret the signals from the battery's electronics.
By the way - have you noticed the little red slider adjacent to the baterry with which it is fixed into the housing? If you do not put it into the 'lock' position the connection between the device and the battery becomes unreliable. It may well be that a heating-up of the battery while being charged disconnects it from its contacts!

Its a well known problem, after 9-10 months the battery cannot handle high powered functions causing it to turn off.
Get a new battery and you'll be sorted.
a 3150mah from ebay is only about £10-£15 but will make your universal a bit fatter. (they provide the larger cover for the back)

Yeh fine,,,all well an good if you do not use a jasjar car tray or holder as such, the soddin thing will not fit in it with this slug on its back

Qtek 9000 battery probs
Hi everybody
All I can say is I'm having det excact same problems with a Qtek 9000. Have tried changing batteries. Have even bought an extra extended battery (3150 mAh), and all for nothing. It worked for a brief periode. But now I'm back to square one again. The darn thing dies on me, even though the battery is charged (70-90%).
Have had a dialog with Qtek, but they claim they havn't heard of the problem before
Have been trying to figure out what the problem is..... and have tried to solve it with various workarounds.... Situation right now... Im pretty sure it's the battery on the systemboard that's causing the problems.
It kind of makes sense IMO... if you have a PC with a faulty battery nothing will work.
I'm going to see if I can get the battery changed (still have warranty). Keep your fingers crossed. I'll get back to you all if it fixes my problems.

Andida Battery killed my phone -help?

Hi All,
I bought a replacement battery for my SG2 for longer battery life from M0bilefun, I inserted the new battery into the phone and left it to charge as their was no power but i got this grey battery icon come up every 10-20sec with a circle in the middle, thought it needed a full charge so i left it over night on charge but still the battery has no power, so thinking it must be a bad batch or something i have replaced it back with my genuine battery which I had around 70% charge left and now the exact same issue, the phone refuses to start and this stupid grey icon and that's all i get
the charger is plugged into the mains on a Belkin Pro AV surge protector extension cable.
any help or advice would be appreciated?
PS: reading the battery packaging it only comes with 6 month warranty which cannot be good otherwise it would have come with longer warranty - i wish i had known that.
a5ian300zx

Forgot to mention that I have tried doing a Hard Reset (power+volume down + home button) but nothing happens at all.
also i have the latest version of CriskeloRom v14 installed
a5ian300zx

this is weird hot swapping the batteries around with the Andida and samsung it seem to work now with the andida battery, I will give it a full charge and see how it goes.
a5ian300zx

Please tell us how you fix it, for those people having the same issue

Hi,
I just swapped the battery over to the samsung one and then back to the Andida and seems to have resolved itself, but the battery life seems to decrease quite fast i fully charged it at 10am today and im one 55% with only one 5 min call made to day at 3g/data off, wifi on. and i used the wifi for around 20min.
but i will see in the next week or so, to let it wear in after few charges.
a5ian300zx

Dear a5ian300zx, my phone diad and it did not worked at all after installing Andida Battery 2000mAh. Ckeckout my new thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17076763
I took my phone to Samsung Service Center. The technician told me that the battery sensor indicator chip is damaged in the main-board and need to be replaced.
you might have the same problem. **** Andida Company, we have to sue them for dmanging our SGS2

Serious battery problem

Hello everyone,
unfortunately I have a serious problem that I think is not related to software. From few weeks my phone dies at half a day (before it lasts more than a full day).
I have already changed the battery (by buying another original Samsung) but I have not solved anything.
It also does a strange thing: I put in charge the telephone turned off, then when fully charged if I remove the battery and insert it again, the phone will not turn on as if he had the battery to zero. If I plug in the power supply and turn it on, the phone turns on and if I detach it again, the phone remains on indicating that the battery is charged (although I do not remember if it reports 100% or less).
If I do the same full charge but without removing the battery, when I detach the charger, the cell phone turns on normally (even if it has the serious problem of lack of autonomy that I said).
Initially I thought it was a problem of some software installed that consumed too many resources or rom or similar, but after having replaced to the original ROM, after changing the battery with a new one, having tried various battery chargers, now I'm worried because the problem seems to be due only to the phone.
Even if I leave the phone turned off and not in charge, the morning after I turn it on and died!
I am seriously worried: any of you happened something like this, even with other phones?
If I search on the forums, as it comes to batteries we always talk about software installed, optimizations etc., It is very difficult with all that's out there to find some problems similar to mine!
Please help me! : cry: