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Is there anybody who can't find his/her Universal veeeeryyyy veerryyyyy sloooow????
If yes, which 3rd party softwares installed?
I'm really thinking about selling it.
I really love VGA, 3G, and other things, but I feel I have 286 PC with a MacG5 hardware chances.
If I want my VGA PDA to run well, I should not install most of appications written nowadays.
I'm really really sad.
What to do?
Who is the hero who finds his toy acceptable?
And HHHHOOOOOWWWWW????
I'm not an amateur - very very not -, but I'd like to use the abilities of the Universal, but it seems, it can't give me its capabilities. I have to chose which app I want very well and which not.
HEEEEEEEELP!!!
SOMEBODYYYYY!!!!
As I said already in other thread, my Exec is running very fast, screen orientation change is very quick, I have no delay in answering phone calls, always over 21-22 Mb memory and it doesn't freeze at all.
I soft reset it every 4-5 days.
Applications that I have now installed (all of them in phone memory) after trying many others are:
- MohairSofa Calendar+ Today PlugIn
- Insignia Solutions JeodeRuntime
- Vijay555 VJOkButt
- Softick Card Export II
- Softatics Corporation xConverter Pro ( great software!!!!)
- Macromedia Flash Player ActiveX
- Handmark Monopoly
- Kasuei Hitchhiker
- Microsoft .NET CF 2.0
- TCPMP The Core Pocket Media Player
- PHM Registry Editor
- GreenSoftware GSFinder+
Everything is running absolutely flawless.
I have UMTS connection avaliable 95% of the times, I'm using Orange UK 3G Sim
My radio is the 1.04 version and I see absolutely no reason for update.
I had many problems before, which seemed to dissapear after a careful selection of software installed.
Thanx the answer.
"I had many problems before, which seemed to dissapear after a careful selection of software installed." - You wrote
Yes, you are right, but I don't want to be careful to select which software I can use.
I WANT TO USE ALL THE SOFTWARES I USED WITH MY O2 XDAIIi !!!
Why is it a big wish?
It is the same if you buy a laptop, and you can use just WindowsXP with Opera Browser, a 3rd party calculator and some ActiveX plugin.
If this device can use just these few apps without freezing or crashing and with acceptable speed, then this is just ten pence a schilling. ( ) (I just learned this in english)
In this case I'd rather buy a stable, fast and old Nokia phone.
OK. I'm trying to write what I'm using:
With the Storage:
- SBSH iLauncher 2.2
- SBSH Pocket Breeze 5
- Marsware WeatherPanel
- AlarmToday
- DKtoday
- PocketZenphone
- WisbarAdvance2
- Wisbar Desktop
- Dinarsoft HandyMenu
- Dinarsoft MemMaid
- Double Launcher
- Macromedia FlashPlayer
- Spb GPRSmonitor
- XCPUscalar
- PDAmill Topkey
- RescoExplorer
- Novosec SmartFilter
- Sunnysoft BackupManager
- PhatWare PhatPad
- Microsoft VB Runtimes for PPC
- RescoViewer
On Storage Card:
- Resco PocketRadio
- MobiMate WorldMate 2006 professional
- SKtools
- OmegaOne 1-Calc
- Astro WinCE
- PocketMusic
- Cash Organizer 05
- ListPro
- Bryht FlashPlayer
- Opera
- TomTom Navigator 5
- Aeromap VR3
- CheckNotifications
- Tweaks2k2
- PocketMechanic
- System Monitor Pro
- eWallet
- VITO MobileDownloader
- VITO SoundExplorer
- WiFiFoFum
- OutlookCleaner
- PocketEarth
- PocketWorldInfo
- SpbImageer
- XnView Pocket
- PocketArtist
.........and many more with a lot of games in 2GB SD
I know this is not a small list but I used all of these on my 2020i without any problem. I used PocketInformant too but I found it really slow on Universal so I decided not to install it.
Maybe You have a question: then why do not use 2020i?
Simple answer: I really hate HTC showing me what is a VGA PDA with 3G.
That is why. I fuc*ing love it and I feel I cannot live without VGA and 3G.
So, if somebody has some experience in upper softs and knows errors or bugs with using them on Universal, please write it to me.
Sorry, but I will never believe that you need and are using all of these applications. And this is definitely the list to slow down your universal.
I like to keep my PC and Pocket PC clean and install only what I need, not what I MAY USE ONE DAY. Clutter is not good in any situation!
And so far it works for me.
And another thing is that many of the applications you have installed are enormous in size: Pocket Breeze, SPB Pocket Plus, Wisbar Advance, MobiMate World Mate Pro,Wisbar Desktop. And there is plenty applications doing the same things which are not only many times smaller in size, faster, and free. Like for example Pocket Breeze and Calendar+ or SPB Pocket Plus and VJOKbutt and VJTrayLaunch.
And don't you think that you sound silly and childish when you say that because you don't want uninstall few of these applications you will stop yourself from using all of them and buy a Nokia. :lol: Go for it, in the meantime I will enjoy using my fast, reliable Exec with all the applications I need...
In one part you have right in other part you don't have.
If you believe or not I'm using almost all of these applications almost every day.
Maybe I can find some which I really don't need but which you wrote in your slowapps-list I really love and if these are forbidden softs with a PDA I'm not sure I'd like to use them.
BUT!!!!
I've been using PDA-phones for years!!!!
I have not any problems with speed and stability before.
I used all of these applications.
WHY IS IT PROBLEM FOR THE NEWEST AND MOST EQUIPPED PDA??????
I'm not able to accept this.
(Spb PocketPlus I'm not using, I found it slower than other slow applications)
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I'm not able to accept this.
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Is that a threat? :wink: :lol:
Good night/morning...Enjoy your new Nokia :lol:
Yes, this is a threat.
Real problem is I'm in a special relationship with my Universal: Hate&Love.
I can't live with and without it.
Maybe I should find a specialist?
Is it a psychic problem now? :roll:
been smoking something? :twisted:
Frankly I understand your angst and kind of feel cheated myself after spending so much money on the Exec. Right now I am down to barebones in terms of the s/w that I have installed on it and inspite of that, it is really slow. One realises how slow the Exec is after having used the XDAII which was blazing fast with at least 3 times more s/w installed. I still have the XDA II and just checked it again... boy it is FAST!
Understandably, I too am dissapointed with this device.
Cheers, Vikas.
Tuningszocske said:
Yes, this is a threat.
Real problem is I'm in a special relationship with my Universal: Hate&Love.
I can't live with and without it.
Maybe I should find a specialist?
Is it a psychic problem now? :roll:
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@Tuningszocske
Same here. love and hate.
With my Nokia 9500 I never worried about how much s/w I installed (especailly with 80mb of user storage) but with my Exec I now only use Agenda Fusion, MS Reader (which is buggy), Opera & Mobireader.
Personally I don't think the problem is from the device itself, but the software. WM5 seems to run a lot slower than 2003SE, and even with faster CPUs and more memory, it's kinda like trying to run Windows XP on a Pentium 500... In other words, we'll need to wait for the hardware to mature and specs to be much more advanced to run WM5 at full speed. The hardware manufacturers also have to learn to use the new functions of the new OS, and learn to work around its quirks, but this can be solved by firmware updates.
So yeah, the Universal is great, as long as you keep things relatively simple with it.
Answering your question is a bit of a personal preference. But for me, I am very happy with my EXEC. This is my first Pocket PC coming from a TH55/E1 Palm OS. Anyone who owned a TH55 knows it only can run applications at 144 MHz, with tons of applications installed it was very slow in opening applicaions, but once opened it runs smoothly. So for me, coming from a slow device to my EXEC is like a blessing. PLUS, as mentioned above, I only install applications that I really use and tend not to clutter my 2GB SD card which I use mostly for keeping my MP3s and Movies. I have no complaints so far. I never had any of the problems described in some threads like being slow, delayed rings, bluetooth problems, etc...
more than happy with it, only a few gripes, but that is towards the 3rd party applications with exception of the lack of a backup function, in general it is fast enough, considering it is a pda phone.
for speed, I just whip out my Sony VAIO laptop not as portable nor as light, but each has there uses
this however looks very interesting
http://www.dualcor.com/photos.php
Blue Angel and V3i
Hi all,
Yes - despite having an SPV for over a year (Palm os Treo 600 before that), I must say I'm still forced to draw one conclusion:
Bloated OS on an underpowered device.
I had hoped that after the CE days they would have sorted this out, but had so many problems with my BA being slow and hanging (how cool is it to say "sorry, my ohone just crashed?!"), I did look at the M5000 (wizzard).
I may be wrong on this but I believe the main problems with the BA - namely battery life, memory and cpu speed - weren't upgraded for the wizzard. And, unfortunately, I had to decide that the Wizard is just TOO BIG.
IS it me, but does anyone actually NEED the h/wkeyboard?
So, am going on with a barebones BA, and have bought a motorola V31 as a "propr phone"! Hopefully when i come to replac my phone in 12 months time, things will have got much faster and better in PPC phones....
Yes, I know they can do some very cool things, but I really didnt find the BA a very reliable phone.
Perhaps it's too cumbersome for a phone, and too small for a laptop?
Right idea - keep going - lets see where we are in a year!!
man how people complain...
dont like it, sell it, simple
i dont have a hate relationship at all, i just love it all the way...
i use lots, but again selective, even my existing configurations can make the device run slow, so i just dont use them for a while and switch them back on when I want to change it.
I have the perfect, fast efficient machine, and if I want to make it look pretty, make it do more functions simultaneously, I accept that it will slow down. Try loading any computer up with 60% - 80% drain on its available ram and its gonna slow down.
The issues are nearly all with the third party applications, the bare bones machine with minimal extended rom installs means I also dont miss a call, rings on the second ring, screen rotation the first time is sub 2 seconds, and subsequently sub 1 second.
I love the bluetooth, keyboard, vga, 3 g, I also like the clam close to protect my screen so that I dont need a case, it just fits in the pocket if I am not wearing tight jeans....
Device is SPB PP (beta), SPB Diary, SPB Weather, SPB Backup (Beta), Resco Explorer, M$VC, KSE True Fax
Card... TCPMP, Resco Audio, Resco Radio, Resco Pictures, Wizbar 2 and Desktop (to play not use), 1 Calc, MS Reader, Bluepoint world and earth, and games
Yes you have to be choosy on your apps, but these are the software developers fault for not correctly utilising and keeping upto date with the change in technology, the permanent storage rather than pure RAM, and thus calling permanent storage information into RAM whn it is in storage.
We wanted permanent storage, but the developers have written applications for the the 2003/SE system and "adapted" to the WM2005 system, and it isnt that adaptable.
They must catch up , they will catch up, but dont whinge about your phone, it works, it works well, the apps are the are that screw it up.
Again, dont like it, sell it, stop whinging, some of you guys sound worse that my missus....
This is not a whinge forum, it is a help and contribute forum to share and develop knowledge.
@simon_darley, okay a balancing view. But lets not promote the Universal as being fault free because this is not true: SMS causing freezing, delayed call alert and loss of data after soft reset. Not making this up, I have suffered these problems.
jah said:
@simon_darley, okay a balancing view. But lets not promote the Universal as being fault free because this is not true: SMS causing freezing, delayed call alert and loss of data after soft reset. Not making this up, I have suffered these problems.
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Hello,
I have a QTEK 9000 and:
1. SMS never froze
2. Call Alert always rings in my phone mid-first-ring (i use a 50k mp3)
3. data loss after soft? not sure what this is about
What ROM are you using BTW? Just curious.
@Jorgee, suggest you have a quick look at this forum. There are lots of threads about the problems I mentioned. Regarding the call alert, I have now installed the new Radio ROM and there are significant improvements for finding a weak signal and call alert is also much better. The SMS freez was with my JJ which I have now sold. The loss of data - again the architecture of the Universal does mean this can happen. If RAM data is not written to ROM because of a fault. Again lots of posts on this here at this forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...s=0&postorder=asc&highlight=sms+freez&start=0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=34724&highlight=sms+freez
Hey all,
I'm new to WM5 (or WM for that matters) and picked up my MDA from Tmobile a few days ago. I noticed windows becomes very sluggish at times (takes a long time for a key response). It's so slow sometimes it looks like it has hung in between program changes
I'm just running the basic programs that came with the phone and not using SD card at all.
Is this because I'm running low on Program memory? I noticed my program is at around 5 MB when this happens.
Should this even be happening w/ the basic apps? It seems to help when I start stop some of the running programs.
I hope I don't have OC the damn thing to run basic apps.
ROM version: 1.8.10.2 WWE (any better out there?)
ROM date: 12/10/05
I have an 8125 and it can get slow when running a few large programs of things. Like PIE or Opera & Media Player or Core. I will also tell you that its not an extremely fast device but it is in part due to the fact that programs are not writen to utilize the processor the Wizard has. That's what I have come to understand atleast. If anyone else has input on it please share.
Later; Lew
I was hoping Opera would be less "fat" but from you have indicated that might not be the case. I wonder if Verizon's XV6700 make a difference in speed since their version is 400mhz.
I figure they're pretty much the same device and decided to go w/ TMobile since it's GSM.
Back to the slow issue, I notice the apps don't really close even if you close them. I have go to System to manually stop them to get the RAM back. Is that normal?
It is also slow because of memory design. There are more topics on this. You can't lose data when battery is empty, but type of memory used is slower.
Well thats a trade I am willing to make. I was always checking my battery on my SX66. Now atleast I can relax and jsut use the device. The 6700 from verizon should run these apps faster because it has a normal but higher speed procesor. It is 400 mhz but not dual core. Where as the Wizard is 200 (195) mhz Dual Core. I think that if apps were writen to utilize this they would run much better, as fast as the 400mhz.
Later; Lew
Do you have Skype installed?
My xda mini S became extremely slow a month ago or so. It was pretty much unusable. Once I uninstalled Skype there was a massive speed increase.
street_hawk said:
Do you have Skype installed?
My xda mini S became extremely slow a month ago or so. It was pretty much unusable. Once I uninstalled Skype there was a massive speed increase.
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That doesn't make sense, unless you were constantly running skype. Just having skype installed doesn't slow down the device. I have it installed, and there are no resources being used if I don't launch it.
Optical,
Have you applied the various reg hacks (WM5 Cache, and Glyphecache) yet? They do make a difference.
Skype has a minimum processor speed requirement, quite clearly stated on their website, which the XDA Mini unfortunately does not meet. Again, unfortunately that is the only version you can use for it since earlier Skype builds will not run at all under WM5. One trick is to run Skype from the MiniSD card which has the advantage of freeing up precious RAM, in fact I would recommend you only install any new applications onto the MiniSD card.
Skype
In my case I found a noticeable improvement once I uninstalled Skype. It wasn't running constantly. I regularly checked the Task Manager closing all unnecessary apps as it was so slow.
Might just be me though!
optical said:
Hey all,
I'm new to WM5 (or WM for that matters) and picked up my MDA from Tmobile a few days ago. I noticed windows becomes very sluggish at times (takes a long time for a key response). It's so slow sometimes it looks like it has hung in between program changes
I'm just running the basic programs that came with the phone and not using SD card at all.
Is this because I'm running low on Program memory? I noticed my program is at around 5 MB when this happens.
Should this even be happening w/ the basic apps? It seems to help when I start stop some of the running programs.
I hope I don't have OC the damn thing to run basic apps.
ROM version: 1.8.10.2 WWE (any better out there?)
ROM date: 12/10/05
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When you close programs in Windows Mobile they are not realy stopped!!
Thats why your memory is around 5 mb after a while.
If you want to stop programs at once, you need some special programs like SPB Pocket Plus.
May be this will help your memory loss and slow ppc.
Marvie said:
When you close programs in Windows Mobile they are not realy stopped!!
Thats why your memory is around 5 mb after a while.
If you want to stop programs at once, you need some special programs like SPB Pocket Plus.
May be this will help your memory loss and slow ppc.
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Very true.
Another good one that I like using is Battery Pack Pro. The nice little "X" is in the corner of the screen and it lets you "click" the program close like windows normally would. It also lets you click on the "X" to see any running apps and force close them.
I'm just waiting for my miniSD card before I go with the tweaks. I'm just a little surprised at what I have to do to just run the apps the OS came with. I guess I had a higher expectation for this device as for performance. You would think 64MB on a phone device is enough!
I noticed one of the tweaks is references the GPS. What is that about? Is that referring to GPS as in GPS receiver? =)
I got a BT receiver and planning to use it but I would love to be surprised about the GPS feature.
JNGold said:
street_hawk said:
Do you have Skype installed?
My xda mini S became extremely slow a month ago or so. It was pretty much unusable. Once I uninstalled Skype there was a massive speed increase.
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That doesn't make sense, unless you were constantly running skype. Just having skype installed doesn't slow down the device. I have it installed, and there are no resources being used if I don't launch it.
Optical,
Have you applied the various reg hacks (WM5 Cache, and Glyphecache) yet? They do make a difference.
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I will definitely give it a try. Please keep the great tips coming!
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Marvie said:
When you close programs in Windows Mobile they are not realy stopped!!
Thats why your memory is around 5 mb after a while.
If you want to stop programs at once, you need some special programs like SPB Pocket Plus.
May be this will help your memory loss and slow ppc.
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Very true.
Another good one that I like using is Battery Pack Pro. The nice little "X" is in the corner of the screen and it lets you "click" the program close like windows normally would. It also lets you click on the "X" to see any running apps and force close them.
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I was wondering if anyone tested both programs on his/her Prophet.
What I'm interested in is speed, which one uses less memory?
Is there a way you can see which app. is currently using X cpu time, memory?
Pocket breeze 5 is better, to close programs I use handy switcher
marcov said:
Pocket breeze 5 is better, to close programs I use handy switcher
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I'll have a look
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Is there a way you can see which app. is currently using X cpu time, memory?
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For CPU, have a look at Vidya Pocket Task Manager.
For RAM, I don't know of any; if you find something, please post it here.
I prefer WA2 for task management,very nice &useful .
and better too WA2 LITE , that is very very light for my S200
WA2 lite is OK, but new HandySwither (v2.7) is the best: only 11.9kb of program memory and fully one-hand operation. No problems with phone application and comm manager too.
To switch and close apps, I now use GSPocketMagic (very light and free), I mapped it to the start menu button, so I do not waste any buttons.
Hi All,
i use both WA2 & Spb pocket plus and both work quite well on my Jamin. do not use the WA Desktop since it is useless if you really want to use Spb plus the only problem i face with the Spb is that the actual themes will not show on the Meter bars (Battery, Memory, etc.)
Hi
As a complete newbie, could someone please explain the difference between SBSH's Pocket Breeze and iLauncher. Both seem to do similar things to me!
Sorry if I'm being a bit dim on this
Rob F
P.S. Is it possible add my device to the forum profile device list so I can add it to my profile?
iLauncher is simply a utility for launching (starting or loading whichever term you prefer) from your today screen.
PocketBreeze actually enhances many of the functions of your PDA by giving robust today screen functionality, replacing the cheezy default plug-ins.
For example, while iLauncher can open the Messaging Application, PocketBreeze will show the contents of your inbox(es) and allow you access to the messages.
Also PocketBreeze supports loading other Today Screen Plug-in (such as iLauncher) into a tab so you can easily switch from on plug-in to another thus allowing more plug-ins than normal without scrolling.
They work great together.
Thanks for that explanation, Kyphur. It's all clear now!
I'll have a go at the trial versions for both.
Rob F
I am using both of them too, as well as pocket weather and pRSSreader.
My today screen now has none of the orginal crap MS stuff on it and looks great.
The downside is the memory usage (only about 8mb left with just those running) and i cant play AOE with them running.
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I am using both of them too, as well as pocket weather and pRSSreader.
My today screen now has none of the orginal crap MS stuff on it and looks great.
The downside is the memory usage (only about 8mb left with just those running) and i cant play AOE with them running.
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You've got to have more than that eating up your memory.
I'm sitting between 16 & 22 Megs always (even when AS is active)..
Hi peoples,
ever since I've had a WM device (first one was 2 years ago) I've used Mobile Shell. I hate TF3D as it seems to be all form and no function, where as MS has everything I need within a few clicks.
The downside to MS is the sever lack of themes (I can't help it, I like to change the way my phone looks from time to time)
So I'm thinking towards WAD instead. Has anyone else made the shift from MS to WAD? did you find it better or worse?
I like the now screen in MS and wonder if the same things is available in WAD? it's the first thing I see when I switch my phone on, number of messages, emails or missed calls, details of appointments, weather etc. it's the best screen there is. Will I be able to get a WAD theme with the same info?
thanks
I moved from MS to WAD as I don't like the lack of configuration in MS. WAD is a different matter. You can make it look like you want to. You could snapshot all the icons from MS and then import them into WAD for whatever look you want!!
Regards
Wad vs MS
Have been using Wad now on Winmo devices since it first came out. With all the effort Chris as put into WAD ver 2, I would now consider it to be the best theme software out there, a high level of functionally and with a little (or a lot, depends on what you want) of graphic work can make your device look fantastic and unique.
So yes with WAD you can have all of what you want [messages, emails or missed calls, details of appointments, weather etc] plus more on your WVGA home screen, how about battery, storage, signal meters, a two month calander, two or three time zones, weather for 1/2/3 or more days etc. It is so flexible now with multiple pages, it is up to you.
I think I may be missing something with WAD2... They offer a 14 day trial and I loaded it yesterday very excited to try MALLMAN's Vista theme and was REALLY disappointed by the sluggishness of WAD2... I did not try anything to speed it up like closing TouchFlow and my S2P/S2U2 apps... am I missing something?
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I think I may be missing something with WAD2... They offer a 14 day trial and I loaded it yesterday very excited to try MALLMAN's Vista theme and was REALLY disappointed by the sluggishness of WAD2... I did not try anything to speed it up like closing TouchFlow and my S2P/S2U2 apps... am I missing something?
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I've also just got the trial..and yup..it's sluggish.
In MS I just clicked the sms icon and I'm in my inbox...with WAD i takes 5 seconds or more from the moment I wake my device from stand by to when the icon responds.
maybe it's just me but that's not really acceptable. I'm going to try a couple of themes as the basic one is awful and needs a lot of configuration to make it useable.
Yes I know that seems to contradict my first post, but here's the thing
MS works well but is a pain is the neck to customise
WAD can be customised to hell, but looks a pain in the neck to do it!!
I guess I just can't win
I've found the same thing. Touch Flow is not very friendly. MS is really quick but not very flexible. WAD2 looks great but is soooo slow.
Has anyone got any tweaks to speed up WAD2?
jay_bee007 said:
I've found the same thing. Touch Flow is not very friendly. MS is really quick but not very flexible. WAD2 looks great but is soooo slow.
Has anyone got any tweaks to speed up WAD2?
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hi everyone,
i also tested WAD2, can feel that it is really sluggish. initially, i thinking to install this to replace touchFLO 3D, cos TF3D eat up a lot RAM. but, after i tested the WAD2 by turning off the TF3D, seems like WAD2 also slow and eat up a lot of RAM.
i tested SPB Mobile Shell 2.1.4 few weeks back, but feel it is little bit incompatible with HD. when i open some folder in my HD, it took very long time to load. any of you here feel any incompatible? or it is just my own problem?
yup..I'm starting to agree about the sluggishness. I've also experienced faster battery depletion since I installed WAD2.
There other things that have disappointed me about it too. Looks like I might have to stick with MS for now.
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yup..I'm starting to agree about the sluggishness. I've also experienced faster battery depletion since I installed WAD2.
There other things that have disappointed me about it too. Looks like I might have to stick with MS for now.
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hi, do you feel that MS 2.1.4 is little imcompatible with HD? i have MS in my phone, but sometimes when i open the folder, it will take very long time to load.
I too installed last night WAD to test it, as i found some nice vista themes i needed to check. The default theme is way too slugish, why did they even release it in the first place?
I too installed MALLMAN's vista theme and although it is not perfect you can customize it a lot and add or remove your own items. I guess it needs a lot of search, since some windows' functions cannot be found in the lists.
The coolest and detailed theme seems to be Mobile Vista Revisited [QVGA], but as the title suggests is only qvga.
Where can i download WAD2?
Google for Wisbar Advance Desktop
Muchas gracias.