TyTN freezes overnight, everytime - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Hi guys,
My TyTN appears to freeze up EVERY night while on charge, which is a pain if I have alarms set. The only way to get it working again is to soft-reset it. There is usually nothing running in the background, and it has the standard Orange today screen set.
Any ideas?

Are you using Sprite Backup? I found that mine would freeze at the start of the backup (with option to backup to PC) until I disabled "advanced networking functionality" under Connections... USB to PC.
Never got a clear answer why, or for that matter what that "advanced functionality" is...

No, not using Sprite backup. I might just hard reset the thing and make sure its not buggered!!

Have you got a minisd in. If so you could try leaving this out.
BTW if you gave complete info about your device [ROM, software, sdcard,...] you may get more help.

I have the same problem, every night freezing
I have the I-mate Rom, APPZ running are: SBSH pocket wheather, batti, activesync

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=59007

i have the same thing happening on mine, from what i can tell the problem only occurs when you Dont shut off your device and it is on for some time. If you press power and let it bee it always works fine, but for example when you talk on the phone for say 30minutes, during these 30minutes you dont turn the pda off, then when your done talking you will notice it is hung and you have to soft reset it. so remember, turn the pda off!
i am also led to believe this might be because of the strange battery meter, maybe someone can test this: use the phone so it sais 90% or less, start mediaplayer and play music for 1hour or so, with the screen on (set it so it never turns off in settings), then after 1hour check if the device works? i think the screen freezes when the battery drops from 90% to 80%...
sorry for the long post

This happens to me as well, I never had it running through a single night.
But for me, it is related to this problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=60543 (TyTN does not detect any SIM cards).
My device detects the SIM card with a probability of 1:10 and then runs for 5 minutes or 5 hours until it locks up (while still draining the battery), e.g. overnight. The TUF (time until freeze) obviously depends on the signal strength (i.e. the number of failed connection retries), which is why the problem is hard to explain in the mobile shop downtown.
At home, most of the time it already hangs on the PIN screen (device PIN, not the SIM card's) or during the blue "Windows Mobile" startup splash screen, shortly after the left LED flashes.
I have to return it.
Provider: E-Plus, Germany, GSM1800/UMTS
P/N: 99HCE036-00
S/N: HT628F......
ROM Version: 1.18.257.2
ROM Date: 05/30/06
Radio: 1.03.03.10
Protocol: 32.34.7010.01H
ExtROM: 1.18.257.9620 (Germany, E-Plus)

Hmmmm interesting...I bet some of you experiencing this problem have Agile Messenger installed?

same here, but only since 2 days and during the day, with or w/o BT on.

My Orange SPV M3100 freezes with no reason at all. I've done a hard reset & loaded no programs whatsoever. I've enabled push email & normally have wifi & 3G activated. My device is freezing upon waking it up from sleep mode & when charging overnight. It doesn't happen all the tme but it does happen quite regularly.
At first I thought it might be a program I loaded but even now it still does it. I'm reverted back to using my Wizard as main phone until Orange can get this sorted out.
I want to try a different rom but not until there is way to go back to the original rom.

I'm a user of a Dopod 383 Pro.
Also experiencing the hanging every night problem. Also trying to isolate what is causing it. I suspect it is either:
1. Bluetooth (it seems to hang when I leave bluetooth on)
or
2. MicroSD card (I am using a 2GB Sandisk card, it didnt seem to hang when I was using a 1GB Sandisk card)
And yes, I do have Agilemessenger installed - although not sure if that has to do with anything.

hardcore said:
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2. MicroSD card (I am using a 2GB Sandisk card, it didnt seem to hang when I was using a 1GB Sandisk card)
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I inserted the card using the adapter into my PC SD slot and checked it.
It (FAT 16) was heavily fragmented, I've defragmented and since today (2 days) non more overnight freeze

anyway ny tytn doesn't freeze overnight, BUT i don't use BT on during sleep. probably i had freezes during the day when BT was on, so... could you please check if freeze occours with BT on?

Progress in freezing problem analisys... Never used BT overnight, I've checked and stopped any app using SD card and now I haven't see any freeze.
Also I have the storage card disappeared from windows media player menu.
Checking the card my MSMETADATA dir is "invalid" from Total Commander menu. If I select "update library" all storage card files are detected, but not added to library
I delete it , update and the storage et voila', the card re-appears!
I am almost sure that the freezing problem in my device is a storage card writing problem, NOT related to storage card.
In stand-by mode the storage is "unmounted"? No power? Low Power?
Same happens in first wizard ROMS...

Update: I was experiencing overnight hanging problems on my Dopod 838 Pro (with the Dopod ROM).
Recently I flashed it with the imate ROM - and no more overnight hanging! I tried it with Bluetooth on as well - its okay.

It Agile Messenger! i have had all the roms and found my phone crashed over night and i missed my wake up alarms and if someone tries to call, it will ring on their end, but my phone will not respond so i dont even know who's called.
anyway, i reinstalled the imate rom afterwards again, without Agile Messenger and it's fine.
but now have a new vodafone v1605 with the voda rom and so far so good.
DONT install Agile Messenger.

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TyTn locking up

I have had this happen twice now.
My tytn (v0628) has locked up. I took it out of my case and pressed the power button and got nothing. The lights are blinking as usual (bluetooth and phone). I tried to call it and it did not wake or ring, but on the phone I was calling on it was ringing, and I got that speaker interference so I know the call was reaching my TYTN, but it didn't wake up. So I had to soft reset it. The first time this happened it was on the charger (wall) and not in its case, it happened overnight. Woke up to it not turning on.
Anyone else having this issue?
Later; Lew
Yup ... I've seen it perhaps 6 or 7 times in the month I've had it.
The actual stability issues I had were resolved - i.e. hanging soft resets etc - by rebuilding. In the main it is very stable.
You also get irritating hangs when the device is left to rung and hang up.
Paul.
Yep. Same issue here. The phone is working normally; you just couldn't get it out of powersave mode by pressing the on/off button. I sent mine back for replacement due to two bad keys and an inoperative flash, but I was going to investigate it further. Like:
How about pressing something that would normally wake it up like the camera button perhaps?
... sometimes its rough out here on the (b)leading edge....
This happened twice to me too, both times after being charging for 4-5 hours during the night it doesn't wake up the next morning, it doesn't matter which key I press, only solution was to soft-reset with stylus.
lewcamino said:
My tytn (v0628) has locked up.
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Mine has also HT628 S/N.
lewcamino said:
I took it out of my case and pressed the power button and got nothing. The lights are blinking as usual (bluetooth and phone).
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Same here, but bluetooth was turned off. Only phone blinking.
lewcamino said:
I tried to call it and it did not wake or ring, but on the phone I was calling on it was ringing, and I got that speaker interference so I know the call was reaching my TYTN, but it didn't wake up.
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Exactly the same issue here, I could hear the interfernce on my hi-fi speakers when I called from landline phone to my cell number.
lewcamino said:
So I had to soft reset it. The first time this happened it was on the charger (wall) and not in its case, it happened overnight. Woke up to it not turning on.
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I didn't have it on the wall charger, but using the USB computer cable, so it doesn't seem a problem related to charger.
I had this happen to me a bunch of times too but it turns out that it was spb software that was causing this issue for me. I had SPB pocket plus and Weather installed, and running on my today screen and it happened quite frequently. I decided to do a hard reset and keep the software minimal to what i "needed" so I kept is simple. haven't had this problem since then. I believer it has to do with the today screen which is either a bug in spb software of a bug in the firmware.
Good Luck!
yak86 said:
it was spb software that was causing this issue for me.
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I don't have any 3rd party software from SPB installed, but can be probably some other soft....
It was locking up for me too and I went and removed SBSH PocketWeather to test it out since it was the last thing I installed. I remove it from teh Today screen and have not had a lock up yet. I am also running SPB Diary with no problems. I am thinking it could possibly be due to these programs that have to connect to GPRS/UDMA every so often to update its data like PocketWeather since it happens with different programs. Maybe it locks up while charging and trying to make a connection. Just my thoughts.
AJH..
hmmm... I also had spb pocket plus and spb weather installed. When I get my next TyTN I'll have to remove those if the problem re-occurs. however I also had one instance of POFs charge related issue. Maybe its also spb backup related since I fire one of those off every day at 3AM.
I don't have any SPB software on mine. However I was using magic button with the battery meter on top. I have disabled the battery meter. That was 3 days ago. It has not happened since but that does not mean it was the problem. BTW I decided to allow the device to stay on (screen back light off but awake) while charging to prevent this from happening overnight.
I know SPB has a battery meter and I also know that this device reports the battery level in strange ways. Like it only reports 10% increments. Also when you first wake it up the battery is @ 100% then goes to the proper level.
Try this if you have voice command;
Have your device off the charger with some battery missing, 90% or lower. Wake up your phone and quickly activate voice command and say "what is my battery level" It will report something strange like "the battery level is unavailable" or I got this one "the battery level is critical" but it was @ 50% and when i asked again it reported 50% just fine. So I think this may be related to battery polling programs.
I am guessing at this and I have not had long enough time to test it but I thought I would toss it out there for everyone to try.
Later; Lew
I have the SAME EXACTLY problem with my magician, this is a common fault as I can see :? The fact is, most users says that the PDA wouldn't wake up after a night: then the problem is the low temperature.. test this putting the TyTN in a fridge while it's cold, then try to wake it up the problem is there...
MocciJ
i had the same problem with my trion using imate rom......but it didnt happen after a long charge......i just havent turned it on for about 5-7 hours, and then when i did turn it on it wont respond.....so i had to do a soft reset........from my experience i think it was my wisbar advance so i uninstalled it and went back to using wisbar lite......i never had this problem before when i was running wisbar lite originally....when i installed wisbar advance and had it on my device for a couple of days and thats when the problem started to happen......after uninstalling wisbar advance and putting back the wisbar lite the problem didnt come back.....so i think it has something to do with what is running on our today screen.....maybe programs that takes up a lot of resources etc might be the culprit......
i have same problems with prophet. after every charging a have to soft-reset. no additional software is installed and never been. just clenan WM5. so this is not a problem with 3rd party software.
Has anyone noticed that the magnet in the HTC leather case is too strong for the TyTN?
I think that I FINALLY figured out why I was having so many "strange" things happen (i.e. Pull out the phone from the HTC case and it comes out in landscape mode). To test- Open the case and move the magnetic flap around the phone while it's on (with screen lit up) and see if it causes a problem with the display.
I need to find a durable NON-Magnetic carry case. Any know of one available for the TyTN?
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(i.e. Pull out the phone from the HTC case and it comes out in landscape mode)
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sure u're posting in the right topic?? :wink:
Anyway, I recommend to all who's having this problem to send the TyTN to repairs.. It's an hardware fault :roll:
MocciJ
Well you can send out your TyTN if you want. I can say that since I removed the battery bar feture in magic button I have not had this problem. I also let my device stay on (screen backlight off, but device still on) over night.
Later; Lew
lewcamino said:
I have had this happen twice now.
Anyone else having this issue?
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Yes. I removed Opera and all went back to normal.
We have many topics on "locking up", freezing, storage card problems, windows media player problem, and so on
Please when you have this kind of problem check if you are using appz writing/reading on the storage card
The worst period in my life with TyTN was when I set IE cache and E-mail cache on storage card... (It is a FAT 16 card...)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=61879 is about overnight freezing....
Sergiopi,
Can you tell us in simple terms what to check to be sure that our programs are not making use of storage card. For instance, I am using pocketbreeze and sbsh pocketweather and both were installed on storage card. Should I simply remove them from the Today screen? Should I reinstall them on main memory?
Thanks, apap
1) Have you sat up IE or Mail SW to store cache or attachment on storage card?
2) Have appz with auto update or log file installed on storage card?
3) Check active processes and events scheduled
This is a simple check list, you can also leave without storage card your TyTN and check if any error message appear after 2-3 ours
To stop applications use any process explore to recognize and stop the process (safer un-checking from today screen first)
I experienced this problem regularly, especially when left on charger overnight as others have reported . I also chgd my ROM from HTC to IMATE -- experienced lockups in both so it's not the ROM.
Saw a suggested "fix" another thread (referenced above) -- Settings/Connections/PC to USB - uncheck box for Advanced Network Functionality --- that seems to have corrected it! I was experiencing the lockip several times a day, but haven't had a lockup since making this chamge. Amd my software install is very similar to others in this thread - spbpktplus, sbsh pocket weather and pocket breeze, wisbar adv 2.
Not sure how this setting is involved, or even whzt it does, but glad the lockips seem to have endec.

JasJam lockups and screenlock not working

I have owned a JasJam for almost 3 weeks. the device was a little quirky during the first week or so but no major repeatable issues. Then my big issues began. 4 hard resets later I'm trying to decide if it's worth it.
I began having random lockups. that is if I turned the device to standby with the top right side button then when I tried to turn back on the device would be locked up. if I pushed the button more than once it would cause a soft reset or I would have to soft reset to get back on. the problem mainly happens with a micro sd card in place. Mainly happens when some sort of notification ocurrs or if the device is in fringe reception area.
the second weird problem is that the screen backlight will just come on even if I have manually put the device into standby, very much like the 6700 problems with another HTC device. Often I can put the device back to standby with the side button and within 3 - 4 seconds the backlight will come right back on. the only way to break the loop / cycle is to soft reset.
I have Phone Alarm but I have disabled it and the problems still ocurr.
I've tried everything! any ideas?
I ran MemMaid to make sure that there weren't duplicate notifications.
I currently am trialing an 8525 to see if it s possibly hardware (or atleast ROM) related.
Similar issue
I too also experience this issue with my JasJam. I am on the Optus Network (which causes problems unto itself) I have a a 1Gb ULTRA SD card in it also. And yes periodically I need to reset the device by pulling the Battery as it dosen't respond to anything.
Strangely I have a Dopod 838Pro (No SD Card and on Vodafone) and it does not suffer these problems.
Let me know if you find out anything as it would help me with getting the JasJam properly Operational.
Thanks,
Paul.
at this point I am sending mine back to iMate for repair
I think it may be a ROM issue in that the 8125 that I am trialing has not locked up in the first 36 hours a single time!

Phone options freezing

Happy new year to everyone!
I'm having serious trouble with the phone options dialog:
They are hanging on opening. I can see empty drop down boxes but that's it. In cannot click anything there and the whole VPA slows down majorly until the whole device freezes eventually.
Funny enough this problem was existing with the original Vodafone AKU2 already, a radio update did not bring any improvement, but when I upgraded to Helmi's AKU3.5 it initailly worked but now again does not
I tried to remove PQzII, Magic Button and GPRS Monitor (particularly since MB seemed to also freeze and GPRS Monitor os phone-related) but no improvement so I'm stuck. Most annoying thing is I can neither change the GPRS/UMTS band nor the ring tones...
Any ideas?
Solved
I guess I found it - only if the SD card is plugged in it freezes (by the way: not only phone options but also notifications settings). Looks like it is searching for some ringtones on the SD and either having read problems or reading too long...
Could also be a SD problem, though

S200 Hanging every now and then

I have Qtek S200 for 3-4 months.
First I had wm5 2.20.7.34. The phone used to hang sometimes. Usualy if the wifi was on and I suspend it it will hand when I wake it up. The screen stays lit and no button/touchscreen works. The power button also wont work so I had to do SR.
I thought upgrading to wm6 will fix the problem and I tried pda mobiz 20.b3 and b4.
The phone still will hang sometimes. Finlay I installed Prophet Touch v6. Its great rom but it also hangs and sometimes its 2 times in a day..
There is no way to predict when it will happen but usualy its more often when I use Internet gprs or wifi. Most often when I use the wifi( I guess
I have upgraded to the latest Radio ROM but I cant see any diference.
So my question is, How often u guys get hangs on your prophets?
Is this normal?
Is there a way to make it work with no hangs at all or this is the way it is?
Im not using overclocking and the phone usually hangs when its left alone not while I use it.
In wm5 it usually used to hang right after I wake it from suspend while in wm6 I just cant wake it, it stays dark.
Well, when I had the original i-mate ROM I almost never needed to do an SR, unless I was really messing with it.
Then I tried PDAmobiz b4 and I got the phenomenon you describe:
Some times I would turn on the device and notice the clock was an hour or two behind and the device would not respond. Basically it hanged quietly and I didn't even know.
After suffering this for a week I changed the ROM to my current PDAViet 4.0.0.0.6 Touch and it seems fine so far (better then the original).
Perhaps a different ROM, maybe a WM 5 not 6 will work for you.
Also you should see what kind of programs are running in background on your device. Maybe one of them is the problem.
Actually I had the problem u described with the original wm5 ROM not with the wm6 roms.
The thing is that the original rom had many other problems and for this reason I dont want to go back to it.
For example I could connect with gprs without problems but after disconnecting I was unable to connect again. The device was saying "The answering modem has disconnected" or one of 2-3 other messages like that I was in a phone session and so on. The only solution was to restart the phone app...
The phone dialer was terribly slow. When pressing the dialpad buttons it was taking about a second for the phone to respond
Also I noticed that the same problem u described when the device freezes just after wakeup will generally happen if the wifi was left on.
If I switched it off I had almost no freezes.. but u know Ive got this phone to use its network capabilities and it looks like the network part was most buggy
All this is about the original wm5 qtek rom.
With wm6 I only have this case when the phone dont want to wake up. It just stays dark when I press the power button.
It will also freeze somethimes when I work but not very often..
Currently I use Prophet Touch v6 by gullum
I few months ago I have read that windows has some delay bringing up the sd card online after suspend and that this may cause problems if some program tries to read the Storage card before its online. For that reason there was suggestion to install all system and most used programs in the internal storage.
Now I have noticed that SPB Insight was installed on the storage card and I use its today plugin so I reinstalled it to the internal storage to see if this will help.
I have the same problem
Please help me to find out why my S200 hanging and hanging and hanging
i have got same problem in my prophet...my model is orange m600............is there anybody to help....

Rebooting issues

I have a trinity and until Friday loved it. Suddenly it has started to automatically reboot itself every 2 minutes or so.
I have loaded NO new software or changed any settings for months. But reviewing the drop menu I see 2 SPB software icons have now gone blank. SPB Traveller and SPBWallet. I assume it is a software problem even though have worked fine for 8 months.
I have deleted the software but still have problem. I also still have the two blank icons on menu.
Tried a Hard Reset but cannot reset. Tried a soft reset but will not action the reset button.
Absolutely frustrated as it just loops and even the old Hard Reset is not working. Anyone had similar or heard of a way to fix?
Den
Im having a similar problem with my spv m700 most of the time phone works fine then just reboots for no apparent reason (phone does it even when sat in car holder so cant accidently press a button). sometimes just does it the once other times it reboots 5 or 6 times and others it reboots a couple of times then crashes at the orange screen and has to be reset. mainly seems to do it while running tomtom but that could just be because it runs that most of the time anyway hasnt done it while making a call yet.
phone is running
radio 1.56.70.11
rom ver 6.1.21054
wm6.1 ceos 5.2.21054 classic edition by tomme45i (have tried other os versions but problem remains)
any help ideas would be much appreciated
Do you use bluetoth head set?
Is the software (spb) intaled on main memory or storage card?
no i dont use bluetooth and the software is installed in main memory
left tomtom off today and phone still reboots? so dont think its a tomtom problem also doesnt matter if the phone is pluged in or not still the same

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