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please help i have the t-mobile mda compact pm200 and i was removing a cracked version on pocket dos v1.09 from the remove list and it said windows wil need to perform a soft rest yes or cancel i clicked yes and my system restarted but now it just get stuck at the t-mobile screen. i have tried doing the manufatures hard reset but no joy i have take out the battery no joy and i can't even access it through my p.c what can i do to get it up and running again i don't care about the data already on there cuz it is all backed up on my sd cad
When you took out your battery, have you been waiting til the backup battery fully drained out? It takes about 30-60 minutes, better leave a few hours. Try this and post your results...
thank for trying but unfrtunatly it had no effect i tried for two hours then reinserrted it and no joy so i waited a further day but still nothing any other ideas tnx
Is it getting into BootLoader? Then you might try Flashing a new ROM!
how would i go about doing that? my computer won't even recognis3e my phone
I had about the same problem:
I was trying to install the Pocket PC Greek language support (free trial version) from the site http://greek.pocket-pc.penreader.co...der_Greek.html. on my MDA Vario Tmobile when it crashed!! It shows just a white screen and does nothing at all!! I soft and hard reseted the device but after restarting it shows the Tmobile screen and after a few seconds a white screen! Actually I am not so sure that the device is hard reseting because it doesn't ask me for a confirmation of the hard reset. When I startup my device it stops on the same white screen.No windows loading, no other commands accepting, not recognized by my desktop.
Did anybody have the same problem before? Does anybody know how can i get my PPC on working condition again
Thanks dagonist.
I hope somebody can help....
See for ROM upgrades on the forum :wink: if u get some images on the mini then it's not dead! It's just stuck at the bootloader mode, meaning that the OS is somehow damaged.. To solve this prob u must plug the mini into the pc (it will be recognised as an unidentified device, don't worry), then download a ROM upgrade set (u will find these on the net or in the xda-dev ftp). Execute the prog, wait 'till it finished and voila! Ur device will come as new If u encounter problem do a simple search in the forum regards rom - bootloader - upgrade and u willl find a lot of infos :wink:
Hope this helps, MocciJ
Thanks MocciJ.....but my desktop pc doesnot "see" my pocket pc at all!!
:? then it isn't yet in bootloader, is just stuck at the beginning of a broken OS! I mean that it tries to load the OS, but then it gets stopped since he read bad ROM (probably deleted in some way since u encountered this prob removing a prog) try to get it in bootloader mode, by pressing together the camera, power and reset buttons.. U will lose all the things in the RAM memory, but in this case u really can't do anything else.. After entering in bootloader, u can easily upgrade it..
MocciJ
Well, I just tried the camera button+power button+reset button....and nothing happens! It reset and comes back to the same white screen...
Any other suggestions??
well, did u tried to make it correctly? I mean: for entering boot loader u havce to press camera + power, and then reset (with camera and power pressed) if u can't still enter the bootloader, then I'm out of ideas, sorry...
MocciJ
I amdoing it write but nothing happens....
In the screen what can u read? If u read serial (it is barely visible) then see if it turn to usb when u connect the cable: if yes, we 're at a very good point...
When it starts up it shows the Tmobile logo and then for a few seconds :
ipl 1.08
spl 1.08
gsm 01.09.10
(something else...)
after a few seconds a white screen without any letters or anything else.
But I cannot see it anywhere on my desktop pc...
:? I can't figure out how you can get it back.. If it displays images and text, then the bootloader is still alive.. It even tells u the correct version of the complete ROM.. but I wonder why it can't access to the bootloader.. u must search in the forum how to reach the bootloader, but I'm sure of the power camera reset combination; when u can read SERIAL or even better USB on the device, u probably have solved most of ur problems, but chances are that u have even bad clusters of ROM, and cannot be restored with an upgrade (it happened to the External Rom of my mini after a bad upgrade)
I suggest to send it to repairs, before doing somewhat wrong, because if there is an original ROM inside they will repair it for sure, free :wink:
MocciJ
Thanks. The problem is that I got the phone from ebay, from a UK seller, and it was locked to Tmobile. So I don't think that I can ask for a factory/guaranty repair....
Thanks. The problem is that I got the phone from ebay, from a UK seller, and it was locked to Tmobile. So I don't think that I can ask for a factory/warranty repair....
seee i tried all of thoose things but i found the main problem was getting the computer to recoginise the thing and the program i put on was a cracked version ( i know i am a naughty boy) so if i send it off they could cause legal problems couldn't it
it depends on what u are meaning by "not recognised" but I assume that windows dosesn't even try to recognise the device (I mean that there aren't bubbles, notifications, or any other changes on the system) for the cracked software, well if u have installed it right into any RAM folder (not in the storage memory) then u can tell the repairing center that ur unit simply doesn't power on correctly.. :wink:
MocciJ
Hi all,
Since last friday I'm the happy owner of an S200, until sunday atleast. After a soft-reset, initiated from windows, my device won't boot anymore. It hangs in the red-green-blue bootloader screen (says: IPL 2.09, SPL 2.09). I've tried soft-resets and hard-resets, but the device would consequently keep hanging in the bootloader.
So for the past few days I've been searching the web and just managed to update the ROM. I was expecting that updating the ROM succesfully would mean my device would boot again, but it still keeps hanging in the bootloader (saying IPL 2.09 SPL 2.15 now, so the update did take place).
Does anyone has any idea whats wrong with my phone? Or how to fix this? Please help.
* bump *
I've been searching further and tried to do a SD dump, but I'm getting the message I don't got enough rights to perform a SD dump. This meens my S200 isn't CID unlocked. Is there any way to CID unlock the device without the need of booting into WM?
The solution to your problem
Hello, if you are having bootloader screen right after starting your mobile (prophet) check if your camera button is depressed since i had the similar problem. In my case i had to disassembly the phone in order to fix it. Right after fixing the button it worked fine
hi syzzer,
i really feel with you - why? - i have the exactly same problem. after i tried to upgrade my rom from o2-germany to another one the device isn't starting anymore and hangs in the beautiful-colored bootloader. and now, if i just even want to re-install the same or another rom, doesnt matter which one, the s200 wont start again. i think this is a really unlucky situation for us to stand alone with our weak pda =) hoping for more help, otherwise we have to take up our warranty and try to get it fixed by the store we did buy it (if a rom-update damage is still in warranty )
good luck
budy!
awechris said:
Hello, if you are having bootloader screen right after starting your mobile (prophet) check if your camera button is depressed since i had the similar problem. In my case i had to disassembly the phone in order to fix it. Right after fixing the button it worked fine
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in my case, the camera button is not pressed in... i truly don't know what to do hopeless? mhm?
greets!
budy!
hello Syzzer
I have the same problem, but i make a soft reset and it works.
Camera but + Com Button + Power
Wait until message appear.
You Get the message : For Hard reset press send
If you choose other key the system boots normaly.
I had already tried all your suggestions, but nothing seemed to work.
About a month ago I bought a Trinity. In the mean while, I forgot I had put my S200 in my bag and carried it around for a month. When I found it a week ago and started pressing random buttons, it suddenly booted and has been working ever since! The problem has gone as mysterious as it came. I can only imagine there was some hardware failure / dirt in my device that caused the trouble and is now gone / moved to some place it does not do harm. Because I already bought a Trinity, I gave the S200 to my brother. He's been using it ever since and did not have any problems. So keep your head up, there's hope!
I m also having the same problem
Now I am having the same problem, no button is pressed, and I can not install the NVID ROM
Actually I can install only a few ROMs, the NVID ROM was working before on my Neo perfectly but, I think it can be because I have changed many ROMs, from a month, actually I have tried different WM6 ROMs and I used NVID ROMs mostly for Step 1.
Now when I install any ROM, it shows a msg some nbf one after 80% or 95%
It can install the pdaviet first step ROM, but now the problem is that it hangs very much and it can not start Wifi, it has stopped working, a few more ROMs i have tried, but the WIFI is completely stopped.
When I press it in communication manager, it will show busy icon for a few seconds and will not start it in end.(I tried it in both WM5 and WM6, same problem, I also tried after soft reset and hard reset, the problem is still there)
Please someone help me out.
My o2 neo got stucked on the o2 reset screen.After going through this forum i came to know that few others too had this problem, so i went ahead with flashing of rom (RUU_Prophet_2151327_21513121_021921_DOP_ASIA_WWE_ Ship.exe) as suggested. But i am having a problem connecting my o2 with my PC using activesync 4.1 as well as 4.5 as it is required for the process. I tried all the option for connecting it through activesync, but it failed to connect. can somebody please help me with any kind of setting that is needed to rectifying this problem, I have also tried some windows firewall setting but it also failed to connect to my device to my PC. Pls pls pls pls somebody help
Ok, let me see if I understand you problem correctly:
You reset your Neo, and it won't boot past the O2 splash?
This kind of problem usually results from installing a program that runs on startup or changing some vital registry settings.
Have you tried hard resetting your device to solve this? It's simple: press and hold power + comm manager + camera the press reset. You should get a black screen with white text asking you to confirm clearing the device. All data and programs you installed will be lost and the device will return to the state you got it in.
I am not sure why you think you need to change ROM to get rid of this problem (unless it happens often for no operant reason) but if you still want to go through with it (I hope you understand the risks involved) you will have to hard reset your phone first so it fully boots in to windows before you can connect to ActiveSync.
Thanks for replying Levenum,
I have tried to hard reset it but nothing happens, it won't go past the O2 splash screen. I have ever install any program on it, it just happen that one fine day i found that my device was off and when i pressed the power button it got stuck on the o2 screen and remained there.
I have been using this Prophet for past 3 months but i have never ever connected it to my PC for synchronization, could this be the reason for it not getting connected to the PC with activesync. if so what should i do.
Even when it is in the bootloader & i connect it with the usb cable it shows usb written on down left corner of the screen, but activesync says device not connected.
pls help...
Ok, now I know changing ROM is NOT the solution for you!
Now, sorry for the stupid question, but is your device fully charged?
Let it charge for at least 3 - 4 hours then try again - use a wall adapter not USB from PC. (These things get stuck on splash when they do not have enough power to fully boot)
Assuming that is not the issue, since it is a new device I suggest you use your warranty (I assume its under warranty from O2) because your problem might be hardware. If you try messing with the ROM you will only void any warranty you have and then you might wind up with a very expansive paper weight!
Finlay, unless you can get in to windows you can not connect to ActiveSync. There are ways of changing ROM through bootloader, but they are complicated (and I am not familiar with them well enough to help you). Please read the WiKi.
Once again, I think you should send it in for repair as this might be a hardware issue.
After (I think) successfully upgrading to WM6, I've had a few problems...
1) I can't seem to soft reset anymore (holding down Power at the top + the reset button)...it seems the only way I can now reset my unit is by physically removing the battery...
2) I can't access the bootloader SERIAL mode...I can access the options for the kernel hive and formatting storage, but no success being able to get into USB mode to reflash my unit
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated - I only bought this phone on Friday
1. This was hard reset in WM2003 - for soft reset just press the reset button
2. You need to press and hold power+reset+record(WMP) buttons at the same time
I suggest you read WIKI first before asking questions which are answered a million times
Thank you for the prompt reply.
I can understand your frustration with many people constantly asking these questions, but please don't make me feel like an idiot when I've actually read the Wiki and tried Googling the problem prior to posting.
To clarify, I know *how* to access the SERIAL option (I had to do it to upgrade from 2003 to WM6 to begin with). My point is that holding Reset+Power+Record doesn't work anymore. It just continues the boot process and goes straight to the Windows Mobile splash screen. The reset button, in and of itself, does nothing at all. I've tried everything from just tapping it a few times to pressing and holding it for upwards of 30 seconds...but it doesn't seem to do anything for me.
Try to hold and press power+record+cam buttons then press reset while holding those buttons.
Yeah, it does nothing...I have a feeling that the actual reset button is no longer working on the unit...not sure if that's to do with the upgrade to WM6, or if it's a hardware problem and just happens to be coincidence :-/
don't take xplode's advise wrongly. it's just that reading AND understanding the WIKI is important especially for beginners like yourself.
if you think you've successfully upgraded to WM6, it's probably because of the "Congratulations" message that was displayed... well, you're almost there, though not quite.
try to fully understand the no/yes/yes instruction in the WIKI... the reset+power+record combination is NOT what you should be doing. it has been replaced by another... here's the thread that could guide you... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327978&highlight=kitl
and here's the pertinent wiki page...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardUpgrade4
good luck and welcome to the BA community.
Anyway if this that you try to explain is that the hardware buttons no longer work, you can try the MTTY method, if you have read the wiki you already know what exactly to do
Thanks raymonds, I will try not to, but I just don't want people thinking I'm yet another new member that doesn't read anything before posting, because I know how much I hate that too...I tried reading up on my problems for 4 hours last night before deciding to post because I couldn't find anything else to help.
I have successfully upgraded to WM6 and went through the no/yes/yes steps - the issue is that I want to go back to WM2003 or WM5...they seemed far less problematic for my phone for some reason..one problem I'm facing now is that my BA, pure and simple, no longer recognizes that I have a cellular carrier at all, making it essentially useless as a phone. When I try to go into SIM Manager, it hangs for a while, then goes into the screen saying that only emergency calls can be made...but when I try to put in my PIN, it says "Unknown SIM error", though the SIM works fine in my other phone...
I'm trying to use the Power/Reset/Record to either try reflashing in the hopes that'll resolve my issues, or downgrade...either way, it's not allowing me to do so, and I obviously can't do this while the phone is booted into WM6. It just seems like the reset button is no longer working, since neither combination that uses it (Power+Reset or Power+Camera+Reset) works anymore.
try to downgrade with MAUpgradeUT_NOID.exe, and then reupgrade, another thing you can do is to reflash the radio rom. The MTTY method resets bootloader settings which may be the solution to your problem.
MTTY under Windows XP is explained HERE
xplode, mtty requires one to do the power+reset+record combination, which he currently cannot do.
is this a second-hand unit?
Hm, there was another way to put your device into bootloader mode but i have never tryed it, in most of the WM2003 upgrades there was EnterBL.exe, and when you copy it to the device and execute it the device goes to bootloader mode...
but it also creates problems - read here
Also i had problems in the past with the latest version of MTTY (1.45) and used previous one 1.01 which worked like a charm
Sweet - thanks xplode and raymonds for your time.
Unfortunately I can't try these as I am at work right now, but I do appreciate the suggestions and will try them as soon as I get home.
If I can't get it to work, oh well - off to the service depot and a (probably) expensive lesson learned.
Please keep us updated, about your issue
Thanks guys...
So, I'm taking it that the radio stack is now corrupt, since it's no longer even showing a version number on my BA. I tried the methods xplode suggested - when I enter the unit into KITL mode, I take it I'm supposed to use USB Active as the transport method, since MTTY won't recognize a device otherwise, and my phone just boots into Windows from that point.
When I try to run MTTY though, all it does is display "kITLª" over and over again...I'm not sure if that's normal, or even how to enter a prompt of some kind...
I'm starting to wonder if maybe I should just take it to the depot, pay the $75 I was quoted, and learn my lesson... :-/
Any other suggestions, or am I just totally doing what you suggested wrong?
You do not need to enter KITL because this is used to debug your WM build using Platform builder
Just try to put your device to botloader mode and then use MTTY to instruct the bootloader what to do, or just reflash radio and then new rom
Hi guys.
I recently installed Onyx Micro on my Elf, and it's been great. I needed a "Home" panel though, so I installed a Home application that I had on my memory card, and after that reset, my phone's been unusable. When i turn it on, it either hangs, or gives me an error that says something to the effect of "phonesyslog has malfunctioned", and then freezes.
I can't get it connected with Actiesync, I can't hard-reset it either. Any idea what I can do?
Can anyone help me?
Hi,
Did you try removing the memory card? In case that doesn't help, try pressing the camera button while starting up, this should enter the bootloader mode, which enables you to flash a new rom. Do this in Windows XP, as Vista can cause problems. If you've never flashed a rom, try searching this forum for an appropriate rom and a how-to-guide.
Regards,
murosama
Hard reset should work and should be all you need to solve your problem. Make sure that you are performing the hard reset correctly.
For a hard-reset without access to the systems menu do the following:
Make sure the device is switched off, then press both the green and the red phone button and while keeping them pressed switch on the device.
A menu should appear, asking you to confirm the hard-reset.
(Upon confirmation, all data will be erased and the out-of-box state will be restored.)
In case that doesn't work, try flashing a rom that is native to your device
(as suggested above).
Good luck,
murosama
I got the same problem i tryed all off this but didn`t work did you find a sollution for yours?