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Totally new at this game! Just bought XDA2 and been given tomtom bluetooth GPS (no instructions) how do I bond it with the xda, it asks for device pin, but you can not input anything in to the GPS (and I dont know the pin if it does need one)
Thanks in advance.
to my knowledge pin of tomtom gps receiver is 0000 which you have to enter on your xdaII, not on the receiver.
i don't know which ROM you have but if it is less than 1.72 you probably have to install bluetooth tools to be able to assign serial port. not for the bonding, but for being able to communicate.
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
but try it first without
If you are using the TomTom software it will configure all the ports for you automatically. Yes the GPS reciever is 0000. It asks for this Number when you bond "New" device.
Good luck
Chris
Thanks guys. I did need the down load.
It now connects happily.
On my ppc you have to uncheck the accept incoming beams IR option in the connections tab in control panel. On mine these frees up the com port and then tomtom allows you to select the correct one.
Might be the same on yours
Cingular 8125 & TomTom GO 910
Is there anyway to pair these two for use of the GPS features? They find each other as far as the TomTom acting as a Bluetooth headset (albeit a bad speakerphone), but it would be nice to have the GPS functions on the phone as well.
I recently purchased a bluetooth GPS receiver (branded as Fusion with X70 as the name on the back - purchsed from Polstar) and TomTom5 software but cannot get the two to work together.
I have bonded the receiver and set it as COM7 and I can choose that in TomTom5 as the COM port to use but it always says "No GPS Device!"
I have also downloaded and installed the BlueTooth Tools software but this hasn't helped either.
I have an o2 XDA2 and any help with this would be much appreciated.
I think mine is set to BT on com6. You must make sure the GPS receiver has a satellite signal before you try to configure tomtom (flashing light or whatever). Keep trying different settings, that's what I did
I think I have tried all the settings I can, I am beginning to wonder if i've got the correct version of TomTom5 installed! My device information says my platform is PocketPC and that is the version of TomTom5 I installed.
I have tried various settings and soft-rebooted my phone in the meantime after each change and tried without re-setting too!
This is getting rather annoying now
sorry, I'm using com5. Have you made sure you've got a satellite connection first.
Mine is version 5.000
When I turn on my GPS receiver I get two lights flashing, one to indicate that the bluetooth is sending a signal and the other to say that the device is receiving a GPS signal.
Try this...
Hi Dave,
Did you buy this via eBay? Couple of friends have bought from the same guy and neither worked, even though it seemed that they were (flashing lights, bonded etc). Both Polstar/Fuzion.
Anyway, if it won't connect via 'other bluetooth', try selecting 'other cabled device' and then select 4800 baud and your bluetooth com port.
Don't know why, but have had to do this with 3 different PDA's so far (2 XDA, 1 ipaq). It seems to work fine, although the data rate's a bit slow.
Any bluetooth gps I have has installed as com 5 when bonding, it asks if you wish to install serial profile and allocates com 5. I have noticed however that tomtom is very weird with its gps module, it keeps saying gps not found or signal lost etc and then I have to reselect other bluetooth and com 5 and even then sometimes I have to reinitialize the receiver before it is found. I always advocate the use of a wired gps if it is only required for vehicle use, it is less problematic, easy to configure and works 99.999999% of the time without problems.
If you run BT Manager and then check settings, it generally sets up as inbound com5 outbound com 6.
I have a Navman that behaved perfectly on Com 5 on TT3, on TT5 still behaves perfectly, but now uses Com 8 instead.
No idea why, don't really care that much -- it works.
I did buy the items from eBay and I am going to get back to the supplier (Polstar I believe) to see what I can fathom out.
Many thanks for all your advice, I have tried all options but still cannot get it to work so I will post a reply with the solution that works for me and hopefully it will work for others too.
No signal
Hi
the TomTom 5 has a new implementation, from the the TT3. It can manage the bluetooth connection. When you creat the connection with your pocket pc, by serial port, you must creat one connection of paired devices, as you created to your headset, bluethoot, of course. By the way, usually tt5 uses com 6 to connect with gps receivers.
The first time you configure your connection you must stay in position to receive signal from satelites, because its important to record all information from your gps receiver.
Regards
With regards to that marcusmodestus I think tonight, I will try and remove TomTom5 and delete my connection to the receiver and try installing again, from fresh.
Should I bond my reciever before or after I install? And should I run TomTom5 only with the bond in place?
bt gps
I bought one of these
set up as other cable on com5 but set baud rate at 38400 works fine 4 me
Success!
First, thank you all for helping me with this!
I have managed to successfully set it up now and here is the process...
Install TomTom5
Bond the device (I only had the option of Serial COM 7)
In TomTom5, change the preferences to use "Other Cable" and set the baud rate to 4800.
Magically I then get 5-6 satellites, a signal and an annoying American (which I will change to a nice english lady)
Thank you all again!
after hours of trial and error with tomtom5 and buzzmobile5.0 together with a xaiox wonde-xl bluetooth gps mouse (nemerix chipset) i learned the following:
it is recommended that you disable the gps manager of buzzmobile5.0 (not doing this has caused my device hang and auto soft reset some times). after that the following procedure worked for me:
1. pair your bluetooth gps device with your xda
2. assign a free outgoing com-port to that device (what com-port is best? please read text below.)
3. go to tomtom gps settings screen choose other bluetooth gps device
4. the assigned com-port number should appear in the next tomtom screen.
usually you should be done now and the connection should work, but i always had to delete the gps device in buzzmobiles bluetooth connection manager and had to re-pair it again, re-assign the com-port and re-start tomtom in order to get it work.
for any reason i then choosed to assign com8 as com-port for my gps mouse. and from this moment on tomtom5 was able to re-establish connections after switching of and on the gps or after switching xda on and off. i don't know what the exact reason is but choosing com8 was my solution to get tomtom5 working together with my gps on a comfortable way.
hope this helps others
regards
peter
I had this problem with Tomtom 5. No matter what I did it wouldn't work with my receiver.
I found that when I downloaded the 5.1 patch and installed it it worked fine with the GPS receiver set to COM6. Usually takes about 30 secs for the receiver to be found though. I think the update sorted out the Tomtom bluetooth support to a later version.
hi ...
how can i disable the gps manager of buzzmobile5.0?
thx mtc
settings --> system --> GPS
On the access tab uncheck the box
btw : I just saw that GPS hardware port shows com5 now. I'm sure I set both hard and software port to none cause somebody adviced this.
Anyway last week I didn't have to re-pair my gps in order for tomtom to find it ( which before I had to do every time I closed tt5). I've been messing in the registry to create extra com5 ports, maybe that's what caused it.
Anyways I now only have to switch on the gps and fire up tomtom and it immediately shows my position. Hope it will last..........
I can't get TTN5 to pick up my BT GPS. I think the problem is that I can only seem to be able to assign COM0, COM8 or COM4 in the BT settings dialogue.
TTN5 need 6 or 7 IIRC.
Even though the BT COM ports dialogue allows me to select any COM from 0 to 9. It complains about not being able to create the port if I select anything other than 0, 8 or 4.
Any ideas?
I am having the same issue connecting with my GPS and Destinator 3 s/w.
Try pairing the GPS with your device before loading tomtom, and assign COM0. That's what I did and tomtom picked up the device immediately without problems.
Having said that my GPS is a tomtom.
Can't install TT5... any suggestion?
I get an error and than installation quits...
you have to connect through COM5. At least it works for me.
Strange enough, now Tomtom doesn't show this port anymore, so they day they unpair, I'm screwed.
I have the same problem. I can only select com 0, 4 or 8 and none of these ports show up in TT5. I am unable to make it work. I even tried ti activate the GPS control panel (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=154825#154825) but it seems this control panel does actually not work (probably why it was hidden in the first place).
Any suggestions to make TT5 work are very welcome.
Some how (no idea how), TT5 was working with the GPS. Yeterday I had to hard reset due to several reasons, I now, again, I cannot manage to connect the damn bluetooth GPS.
Same reason as always: NO COM5 in TT5.
Damn!
Guys now I am really stuck! I have been messing about with the registry, this is what i have found; COM6 friendly name is RIL (radio something or another I think basically the phone etc…) I have changed that to another port (HKLM\Drivers\BuilIn\Serial….) changing the index to another port i.e. a free one like 0/4/8 upon reboot allows me to map port 6 to BT gps under MSBT stack; however the phone (radio) stops functioning although BT serial port has been assigned to 6 TT5 still does not start the connection! Looking through the reg under HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\serial_BTUR this is the default BT serial port; this is set to port 7 (Index) if you change that port to something other than 7 reboot BT stops working. I have loaded the old TT3.7 GPS driver/software (Not complete TT3 just the gps update) and I can connect and communicate with the BT GPS. The BT GPS is seen as BT GPS. I can leave it connected however as soon as I fire up TT5 still no GPS communication. Tried to get TT5 working for over a week and have still failed. I think we need to find how TT5 detects available ports and edit/hack that area. There is on thing I have noticed though; if I select TomTom GPS there appears to be some BT communication although no thing on the GPS screen the BT light on my GPS unit (Fortuna) flickers periodically. Seriously stuck any help greatly appreciated as I am currently running out of ideas…..
Guys now I am really stuck! I have been messing about with the registry, this is what i have found; COM6 friendly name is RIL (radio something or another I think basically the phone etc…) I have changed that to another port (HKLM\Drivers\BuilIn\Serial….) changing the index to another port i.e. a free one like 0/4/8 upon reboot allows me to map port 6 to BT gps under MSBT stack; however the phone (radio) stops functioning although BT serial port has been assigned to 6 TT5 still does not start the connection! Looking through the reg under HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\serial_BTUR this is the default BT serial port; this is set to port 7 (Index) if you change that port to something other than 7 reboot BT stops working. I have loaded the old TT3.7 GPS driver/software (Not complete TT3 just the gps update) and I can connect and communicate with the BT GPS. The BT GPS is seen as BT GPS. I can leave it connected however as soon as I fire up TT5 still no GPS communication. Tried to get TT5 working for over a week and have still failed. I think we need to find how TT5 detects available ports and edit/hack that area. There is on thing I have noticed though; if I select TomTom GPS there appears to be some BT communication although no thing on the GPS screen the BT light on my GPS unit (Fortuna) flickers periodically. Seriously stuck any help greatly appreciated as I am currently running out of ideas….. I Think there is only one Man that maybe able to help; ITSME help please!
I've completely given up. I've spent most of the day hacking the registry to COM5, with multiple combinations on the GPS control panel, etc... with no success.
I've hard reseted the device and I won't install TT5 until someone figures out how to connect it to a Bluetooth GPS.
I can't believe such a new device hasn't sorted out a simple connection to a Bluetooth GPS.
Well... not yet.
I've been able to set up TT5 working with my old Bluetooth GPS, but it doesn't work with my new Syson Blue Sirf III. Have no idea why, maybe someone can lighten me up.
Anyway, this is what I've done for non SIRF III and it works for me.
1. Establish a bond with your GPS and select the checkbox for serial access.
2. In BT, select the OUTGOING port to 8.
3. In the GPS control panel, select the GPS program to 0 and make sure that the hardware one, is set to None.
4. Start TT5 and and the GPS settings, select another bluetooth GPS, and you will see COM 0 free. Select COM 0 and close TT5.
5. At the GPS control panel again, now select COM 8 (before we set it up at 0).
6. At BT: select OUTGOING port to 0.
7. Back again to GPS control panel and select NONE.
8. Finally start TT5 and it should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and you should see it has connected.
Hope it works for everybody.
Now, how to make it work in SIRF III - no idea. I've made the same process with the Sirf III GPS and it doesn't connect.
Success!!!!
You sir, are a genius.
I salute you.
I've got a Fortuna Clip on and it sucks
They had to screw us again with the BT stack. Morons. It is abslutely impossible to set this baby up with TT5. I got TT5 to work on the Magician, and the XDA 2, but this, abosulutely beats me. It seems Tomtom barely let's me choose any ports...lost
Top Man andreuroig
Thanks andreuroig your a top mman Just got it working on Fortuna Clipon BT GPS; Can I pick your brains about maybe trying to install the WIDCOM BT stack on the universal; have tried manually hacking away at this; but have given up now....
mikeycollins13
hi mikeycollins13 wrote
It is abslutely impossible to set this baby up with TT5. I got TT5 to work on the Magician, and the XDA 2, but this, abosulutely beats me. It seems Tomtom barely let's me choose any ports...lost.
I agree Have tried andreuroig way, I can´t get a com0 in tomtom ,
Please help.
:?
MIracle, got it to work. Clip on + tt 5.1
This how I did it:
1.) IN BT settings, (After having paired and chosen 'Serial', went to COM ports and selected 0
2.) Then, from inside tt5, went to gps...picked the 'other BT', it ehn showed IR ports, serial cable etc, Port 7 (no use, couldn't do much) and THEN Com port 0. Clicked that and it worked.
Done
PM if you need help
slight subject change, but.... JasJar, Tomtom 5.1.......slight twist
possible to have the 100mb GB map stored on the phone, so to use a SD GPS Card?, Due to the new memory layout of the phone this could be an issue.
I have that and TTN3 was ok with the 32mb map in, but since 5.1 you cant have smaller than GB 105mb, so im stuck on TTN3 for SD GPS unit and TTN5 for the, err not yet purchased BT GPS unit,
Some sort of map cutter would be nice,
Ive ordered my Jasjar but waiting for the post,
What i really what to know is, do i put the SD GPS unit on ebay now and recoupe some losses having to get a bluetooth unit or not ????
TiA
Jasjar, BT GPS and TT V5.1
Some people here state that they installed TT V5.1. Actually V5.1 is an upgrade that can be downloaded from the TT support site. It requires V5 as a basis. BUT the V5.1 only comes in EXE format (no CAB fiile) so I wonder how you guys were able to get 5.1 installed as the setup program crashes as soon as it connects to Activesync 4.0 or 4.1.
?
you have to copy the 5.0 cab files across, then run them and it installs that way,
then just the 5.1 ugrade to copy across
faisal.husain: no idea about how to install de Widcom BT. That is out of my league.
JoseF:
Start from zero. Erase your bond with your GPS. Start TT5 and select any port that you have free (COM7 or even Serial on COM1).
Pair your GPS and follow the steps I've mentioned. It should work, but only, if it's not a non SIRF III gps.
Hi,
I've read the BT TomTom how to's but to no avail. I've also heard that becuase the parrot 3300 is a bluetooth carkit as well as a bluetooth GPS reciever you have to fiddle to get it working.
I've fiddled until I could fiddle no more!
Anyone managed to get this setup working - if so, HOW!
Thanks in advance.
Tom.
I got mine working without any problems (other than the tedious tomtom configuration)
Make sure you run the latest 3300 firmware from www.parrot.biz
You only set up one partnership with the 3300.
It will support 2 services:
Serial Port (for GPS) (fiddling required as per tomtom posts)
Hands free
zach
Zach - did you do the serial port 0 & 8 switch from post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28386
or the serial port 5 bodge from post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=22794&highlight=3300
Thanks,
Tom.
I did the 0 & 8 switch, I did not try the bodge, it has been working ever since so I am not touching it.
I have not had to hard reset since the jasjar update came out (Sept 30?)
and it has been working great.
One thing you have to remember when you turn tomtom on, it turns on your bluetooth, so by swithing tom tom on you will get both GPS & hands free.
hope that helps
Zach
hmm I've tried every which way but loose.
On your parrot - in GPS settings mine never says connected.
When I'm spoofing the COM port 0 tomtom sees that fine, but when I then swap the BT to use COM0 tomtom never sees the device.
Confused :roll:
These are the steps I'm taking.
1. Create a BT connection with the parrot
2. Tick the head set checkbox and serial check box
3. create a parrot outgoing COM port (8)
4. Create a virtual COM port (0) in Settings > Connections > GPS.
5. Start TomTom, configure GPS and select COM(0)
6. Quit TOMTOM
7. Change Virtual GPS port from (0) to (8).
8. Change BT parrot COM port from (8) to (0).
9. Delete virtual COM(8) port
10. Start TOMTOM
When I get to stage 10 nothing happens.....
Try doing this
remove totmtom from your device,
soft reset,
install tomtom 5.1
1. Create a BT connection with the parrot
2. Tick the head set checkbox and serial check box
3. create a parrot outgoing COM port ( 8 )
4. Create a virtual COM port (0) in Settings > Connections > GPS.
5. Start TomTom, configure GPS and select COM( 0 )
6. Quit TOMTOM
7. Change Virtual GPS port from ( 0 ) to (none).
8. Change BT parrot COM port from ( 8 ) to ( 0 ).
9.
10. Start TOMTOM you may have to wait up to 5 minutes the first time
TomTom only sees the Virtual port.
you want to set the virtual port, Bond tomtom to it
change the BT port to the same number as the virtual.
clear the virtual port
start tomtom
Also I am Using Port 8 for my Serial port Not 0
I had to use a SD card reader in order to install the maps.
Did you try tomtom 5.2?
what error are you getting?
Hmm yep this is the exact procedure I have been doing.
When I go into TOMTOM after swapping the BT COM port with the Virtual COM port it just sits there saying "No GPS Device". I've left it a good 15 minutes. I've also tried using COM(8) and COM(0). No use. I've also checked tomtom is expecting the right COM port by looking at /Navigator/navigator.cfg (and it says COM0 or COM8 depending on the COM port I previously selected in TOMTOM).
On your parrot, before you open TOMTOM if you go into GPS Settings (on the parrot not the PPC) and view the information does it say "connected"? Mine always says disconnected. I can use the hands free part of the parrot without problems. it won't seem to connect to the PPC.
Thanks,
Tom.
Is your GPS activated on the parrot?
there is an on/off function for the GPS under GPS settings.
I assume that the parrot is in pocket pc pairing mode, before you pair it.
Also what is your parrot software version?
You should have at least 4.1, lower versions have a lot of problems when it comes to pocket pc's
Yep GPS is active.
Using Parrot version 4.13
Does your Parrot say connected in parrot GPS information without TOMTOM being started? Or does it only say that when TOMTOM is running?
Thanks for your help btw zach - much appreciated
On the parrot display I get the name of the Device (pocket pc)
The satellite # and the distance traveled.
I get this regardless of the pocket pc being connected or not.
I get a GPS connected message on the screen but that is only momentarily.
Also make sure that your baud rate on the parrot is set to 9600 NMEA
Right.
I get this also.
But when I go into GPS > Information on the parrot it says "disconnected"...
are you using a legit version of tomtom?
what do you see on the screen when you start tomtom?
Yep I'm using a legit version with traffic and weather.
On the PPC I see "No GPS Device" and the Map and on the parrot I see the name of the pocketPC.
Did you try TomTom 5.2?
downloading now
One more thing,
Just soft reset & Start tomtom.
Tomtom will activate bluetooth and connect both the GPS & the handsfree
Ok I'll try that.
Is there any order you need to start things? I.e do I need to start TOMTOM then start the ignition on my car or start the ignition THEN start TOMTOM or doesn't it matter?
Soft reset , Start the car, wait for the parrot animation to complete , start tomtom
ok cool i'll try that,
thanks zach
Tom.
Hi,
I have recently got an O2 XDA Mini S, and I have TomTom 6 installed I have a generic non-TomTom Bluetooth GPS receiver (BT 77) which I got from eBay this works fine with my PDA.
The only problem I have had with it from day one is that I have pair my Bluetooth GPS each time that I use it. If I don't TomTom doesn't seem to detect it. E.g. go to Setting -> Connections -> Bluetooth then delete BT GPS, then I have to search for Bluetooth devices add it again and setup the ports each time I want to use TomTom. Then TomTom will pick it up.
Is this normal? Having to delete my GPS device and then add it again to be able to use it? I normally wait until my GPS has a lock on the satellites before opening TomTom.
Any suggestions on how I get my GPS setup permanently?
I have TT6 and TT's own receiver with Qtek 9100...works fine, pair it once and that's it.
Hi
Are you entering the four digit security code when asked ?. Mine did this till I got the code from the web site for my receiver.
Hope this helps
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Mda Vario
T-Mobile
TomTom 6
[email protected] said:
Hi
Are you entering the four digit security code when asked ?. Mine did this till I got the code from the web site for my receiver.
Hope this helps
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I think you will find that the code you will need is 2003, but you maybe have to check the web site too!
[email protected] said:
Hi
Are you entering the four digit security code when asked ?. Mine did this till I got the code from the web site for my receiver.
Hope this helps
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The code in the guide that came with my GPS was 0000 and this works fine when I have to pair my GPS up, which you normally only have to do once.
I think I solved the problem though. Normally I have Bluetooth off and then tapping on TomTom would load up and then TomTom would automatically fire up Bluetooth for me. While it looked like TomTom was running Bluetooth fine it wouldn't actually detect my GPS.
Turning on Bluetooth before running TomTom seems to do the trick as it will detect it within about 7 seconds. Must just be a bug on Windows Mobile 5 or TomTom 6.
sebastianf said:
The code in the guide that came with my GPS was 0000 and this works fine when I have to pair my GPS up, which you normally only have to do once.
I think I solved the problem though. Normally I have Bluetooth off and then tapping on TomTom would load up and then TomTom would automatically fire up Bluetooth for me. While it looked like TomTom was running Bluetooth fine it wouldn't actually detect my GPS.
Turning on Bluetooth before running TomTom seems to do the trick as it will detect it within about 7 seconds. Must just be a bug on Windows Mobile 5 or TomTom 6.
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Well ok that is wierd cus it, i just start up tomtom and then select the gps and it works find!!! but i guess different with different gps units!!! but good to see that it is working for you now!
I have the same GPS unit as you and I don't have the issue you describe. If I manually enable Bluetooth before starting TomTom 6 it works, if I don't manually enable BT and then start TomTom 6, BT is started by TT6 and it still works. It probably takes a few seconds longer but it still connects quite quickly.
I have TT6 configured for 'Other BT GPS' on Com6. Com 6 appears as 'BT GPS' and is unsecured.
Andy
In the Bluetooth settings area for your GPS, make sure the "Secure Connection" box is NOT ticked. This should sort you out.