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1.06 ROM, GPRS not always-ON

Has anyone come up with a fix so that the GPRS is back to being always on as it was in the original 1.03 ROM? I have read some posts on this on other sites, but I have not found anything here. I assume that I have everything set properly, but the GPRS has to be started every time now.
In general I do not feel that the 1.06 ROM upgrade did much of anything to enhance my device, and quite frankly I wish I was back to 1.03, however, I have heard that a new ROM upgrade will soon be released and I bet that one or I hope that one will provide some real value and fix things.

I've posted this in another thread, here's the quote:
Here's a solution I've done to my XDA II with T-Mobile GPRS problem. I don't know who came up with this solution, but thanks to my friend who suggested this at PDAMobiz.com.
1. After a hardreset and completing the initial screen alignment, interrupt the auto-installation process by softreset your XDA II (you have 3 seconds before the files in Extended_ROM will automatically install).
2. Make your Extended_ROM viewable, whether by using the Extended ROM Viewer from http://www.ppcw.net or Extended ROM Switcher (sorry I forgot the link).
3. Now, install each cab files, except TMD_AP_NL.sa.CAB. In fact, I also disregarded, Caller ID, and some other TMD stuff.
As a result, the GPRS is now always-on as it should be.
Cheers,

Thank you for responding to this post. I had to wait quite awhile.
Your #3. states to install the cab files and disregard the TMD files. Did you delete these files or just not open them? What are these TMD Files for?
I assume that I cannot, at this point and without a hard reset, just delete the TMD Files that are viewable in my Extended Rom. Is this a correct assumption or could I accomplish the same goal by just deleting those files?
Thank You

gratefuled said:
Thank you for responding to this post. I had to wait quite awhile.
Your #3. states to install the cab files and disregard the TMD files. Did you delete these files or just not open them? What are these TMD Files for?
I assume that I cannot, at this point and without a hard reset, just delete the TMD Files that are viewable in my Extended Rom. Is this a correct assumption or could I accomplish the same goal by just deleting those files?
Thank You
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Yes you need to delete does file from Extended_ROM and hard reset it.
Or hard reset, quickly soft reset after you finish the screen calibration, run the extended_rom viewer and manually open/run each of the cab files except the mention cab. ( basically follow exactly what jopard said ).
I read also somewhere in this forum that someone did a differrence search on the registry between GPRS always on and GPRS off when idle. With this method you can change the setting without hard reset.

Hi, the mentioned cab installs the following registry key (among others):
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings]
"CacheTime"=dword:0000003c
"SuspendResume"=hex(7):\
69,6e,74,65,72,6e,65,74,00,00,00,00
I guess it must be the SuspendResume setting. Can you post your setting without applying the cab file?

softworkz said:
Hi, the mentioned cab installs the following registry key (among others):
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings]
"CacheTime"=dword:0000003c
"SuspendResume"=hex(7):\
69,6e,74,65,72,6e,65,74,00,00,00,00
I guess it must be the SuspendResume setting. Can you post your setting without applying the cab file?
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This is my setting running my own cook 1.60.06 skiping that file:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings]
"SuspendResume"=hex(7):7E,00,47,00,50,00,52,00,53,00,21,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"CacheTime"=dword:00000258
And yes my GPRS is always on.

Hm, I'll try that, but I had another problem:
When I was always GPRS-connected my GSM-connection was always lost
after 12-24h. The device showed that it is connected but I could not dial out and I could not be called.
Now since I am not "always on" anymore I do not have this problem anymore.
Did you experience something similar?

softworkz said:
Hm, I'll try that, but I had another problem:
When I was always GPRS-connected my GSM-connection was always lost
after 12-24h. The device showed that it is connected but I could not dial out and I could not be called.
Now since I am not "always on" anymore I do not have this problem anymore.
Did you experience something similar?
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Mine work fine I can call, received phone/sms while npop and aim is running in the background.

is there
Is there a way to do this without hardrestting? It just took me two hours to load all the program into XDA. Can I just hack the reg?
thanks

my rom
My rom does not even have this cab in the ext file. Can I hack it in the reg?
I have XDA II 1.50WWE ROM
thanks

softworkz said:
Hm, I'll try that, but I had another problem:
When I was always GPRS-connected my GSM-connection was always lost
after 12-24h. The device showed that it is connected but I could not dial out and I could not be called.
Now since I am not "always on" anymore I do not have this problem anymore.
Did you experience something similar?
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I think you will find that many carriers have a "timeout" after several hours of non use.
Dave

SuspendResume
What does this look like in the registry:
This is my setting running my own cook 1.60.06 skiping that file:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings]
"SuspendResume"=hex(7):7E,00,47,00,50,00,52,00,53,00,21,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
I have PHM Registry Editor, and entering the entire string does not look like a meaningful option.
Is it a REG_DWORD with a base of HEX ?
Regards
Michael

I use resco registry editor you can just import in that registry.
I found another post regarding this issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=26866

I'm afraid I do not understand how this thread has evolved.
I understand the posts that speak to the hard reset and softreset within 3 seconds to keep the device ROM applications from loading. From there to install fix for viewing extended ROM files and then load everything except TMD, and perhaps some of the T-Mobile apps you do not want. Although the response says a specific TMD file and some other TMD-no specifics, all or some?
The balance of the thread seems to speak to radio settings.
Is it being said that you can change some settings on the radio stack and get the GPRS always on? If so how do you do this in reasonably simple terms?
Ed

Nonintrusive Keep-Alive
The intrusive solutions are enticing to me but they are for "developers". From a user's point of view, I am always worried about doing something and then not being able to restore it to the original state (or having to spend a lot of time to get back) should something go wrong. My bandage solution (unique to my use situation) is to open an ssh or a telnet window and run a shell script which loops to print the current timestamp and then sleeps for 5 seconds. A T-Mobile tier 2 tech guy told me that the disconnection was by design for the benefit of network service providers so that they can save on connection resources.
By the same token, I like the Keep-Alive application solution - I think it is worth my $2.45 (See thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=5220). I wonder if the to-come T-Mobile Windows PPC 2003 comes with some sort of control that is equivalent to the Keep-Alive application - in a matter of a month or two, supposedly.

New O2 Xda mini s

Hi
I'm new here but I was wondering if anyone knew how I could get rid of the O2 customizations. I've unlocked it with the unlocking tool but I cannot get a Rom for I-mate to clear the O2 rubbish as I am not allowed to join clubimate without a valid imei number.
I've checked xda-developers ftp site for the correct rom but i cannot find one anywhere.
Please help me
Sloane

You don't need a new ROM, and with the UK mini S, it's probably best to leave the supplied one alone as, amongst other things, the hardware keyboard layout is different and you'd need to re-patch the keys and symbols back onto the right keys from the i-mate defaults.
I let the full O2 install happen to see what it would install (aside from the 'Active' rubbish) before I did a hard reset to clear it all out. During the reset, when it says 'installing customisations in 5 secs' (or whatever the exact msg is), do a soft reset with the stylus in the hole in the side, and voila, native Wizard, but with correct keyboard mapping... Don't worry, your SIM unlocking will survive the hard reset.
Then, get Total Commander because there are some cab files in the extended ROM that you might want like the MMS editor, additional ring tones etc...
I've got a Qtek 9100 and a mini S (now on Vodafone) and the overall build quality of the mini S is much higher.
Hope that helps?
Dox

Right, I've done exactly as you said. I now have no O2 stuff there. I've got total commander on my phone but I dont know what to look for to get gprs and mms settings back.
Can you help please
Sloane

sloane said:
Right, I've done exactly as you said. I now have no O2 stuff there. I've got total commander on my phone but I dont know what to look for to get gprs and mms settings back.
Can you help please
Sloane
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Sure, the choice of what to add is entirely up to you, but here's what I added...
during the customising bit that you stopped when you soft reset, the contents of the Extended ROM are installed. Autorun.exe reads Config.txt and all the cab files listed there are installed. We want some of them.
Point Total Commander to '\Extended_Rom\ and you'll see them all. I looked at the extended ROM on my 9100 and tried to find the equivalent O2 cab files. Even though I had already configured MMS connection and server details, the MMS inbox didn't show up until I installed the cab file with MMS1 in the name. I also ran the RingTone one, SmartDialing and, I think, Signed_Version.sa (because my Qtek phone had a similar file, even though I'm not sure what's in it).
I've got a Voda SIM in, so I set up the two GPRS access points for web and wap( only used for MMS). Raphael over at BeyondTheTech.com has the MMS settings available as cab files to d/l and install, to save typing them in by hand. They must also be in the Extended ROM cab files, but I didn't need the O2 ones, and couldn't tell from the names, which cab they were in. The k-jam comes with all the carriers' settings in conveniently named files, and that's what Raphael has listed.
If I had had more time, I might have installed them all, one by one to see what each contained, but I was going out and wanted to take the mini S with me.
Hopefully, that will get you a good way there, but if you are stuck with any other bits, yell and I or somebody else will help I'm sure...
Good luck,
Dox

Try these files for phone settings
http://www.buymobilephones.net/sp3_setup.ihtml
V

To get rid of the O2 interface I just removed it from the Startup directory in Windows, there are two files, both with O2 icons and then did a soft reset. Although I imagine there's still some O2 trickery lurking around on my device, I didn't have to add any new settings or anything that required me to switch my brain from inactive to mildly inactive.

Eradificator said:
To get rid of the O2 interface I just removed it from the Startup directory in Windows, there are two files, both with O2 icons and then did a soft reset. Although I imagine there's still some O2 trickery lurking around on my device, I didn't have to add any new settings or anything that required me to switch my brain from inactive to mildly inactive.
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Hi, im thinking of just removing those two files from start up as i dont want to do anything too extreme to get rid of 02 rubbish and the method of hard resetting sounds a little tricky, not sure i'd be confident doing it as i only just got the phone.
Have you noticed any error messages since doing this? Does the 02 rubbish not just appear again next time you do a soft reset?

Just let it do what its doing and then choose basic install. Then remove the 02 active in startup to stop the annoying message.
My wizard is running fine like that with all the mms settings etc.

Ok, i haven't hard reset but i have removed the 02 active thing in start up and its no longer appearing on the desktop now. Phone seems a bit more responsive.

tom99 said:
Ok, i haven't hard reset but i have removed the 02 active thing in start up and its no longer appearing on the desktop now. Phone seems a bit more responsive.
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If your happy with how its performing then dont change. However if you hard reset and opted for a basic you should see even more of a speed increase. But like I say if it aint broke it dont need fixin

phone app probs

hi there
I have orange M5000 with
exRom unlocked etc
my phone app is playing up
firstly smartdialer does not seem to exist and the option
in menu does not start any dialogue
video call is not there either tho the options still exist
(this I can live with but I used intellidialer all the time on my M2000
and I believe this is the same prog)
help would be appreciated
cheers
simonastro

gah
trust me to forget the weirdest thing
on phone app menu
select options and I get the settings page
this cannot be killed tho - I have to reset the device
moreover cannot alter the settings - stuck on ring fantasy.wma
( Have got dialer and video back by selection of orange
ex ROM cabs - had to guess but all is ok )
oddness

I understand, that you did not install all cab files which were supplied by orange in extended rom. Maybe you missed installing a required cab file?
Just my quick thoughts.
Good luck.

Try installing the ENABLE-VT-RTPLUGIN-0727-2-SIGNED.CAB or similar file... should do the trick
:wink:

I did install that cab prior to my last post and
video calling and smartdial are back
however the
stuck on phone options issue is unresolved
cheers

removal of orange software on m3100

before i go ahead and buy the orange m3100 version of the tytn, can anyone tell me how easy it is to remove all the installed orange rubbish from it? and will it void the warranty if i do so? or it it best just to live with it?
never had a windows based phone before
cheers!

If you mean the orange branded home screen rubbish that they seem to love putting on most of their phones then this is quite easy, just go into the today screen settings, items, and untick the orange option, this will see you back to a normal pda.

cool! didn't realise it was that easy!
thanks!

I haven't had direct experience with an Orange device but I do know that it is not quite that simple with an o2 device. If you change homescreen, all it does it change the theme rather than get rid of the o2 UI (which takes up about half the screen whic useless links and icons!).
However the solution to this is not too complicated either. All you need to do is do a hard reset and then do a soft reset before the extended ROM installs. This will definitely leave you with a non-branded device, although you might have to reinstall one or two useful apps that get installed with the extended ROM (eg. when I did it I had to reinstall the smart dialler).
Hope this helps and apologies to Nightshot if I am wrong about Orange devices. As I said I haven't had to do this on an Orange device.

To really get shot of it you can soft reset your device after the initial setup but before the customisation setups run. This will stop the Orange customisation running and leave you with a vanilla WM5 device.

Then you can install the cab files in extended rom without installing the orange customization CABs.
You can find instructions on how to access your extended rom on the wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unhide_Extrom
If you do it, please post your extended rom here (we still don't have the orange ExtROM contents!):
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtendedRoms

nice one.
thanks to all for the info.

pof: i don't actually have one yet - just wanted to make sure i wasn't making a mistake getting an orange branded device that i couldn't de-customise.
thanks!

i've just done it
got a m3100 today and removing the orange stuff is one of my 1st jobs. I removed the xda 2i o2 stuff by registering as a corporation but saw no kind of option on the m3100. I deselected orange from the today options and set it to windows default. I dont know if still having the orange stuff on device will cause slow down. doesn't appear too.

I did this to allow me to sync with my Mac but I now don't have my MMS settings and video calling.
How do you get around this?

JustinFe said:
I did this to allow me to sync with my Mac but I now don't have my MMS settings and video calling.
How do you get around this?
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You did what? Not installing the customized CABS (e.g. the Ext ROM)?
If so, you need to get a copy of the Ext ROM for your orange, and find the file that is responsible for the MMS and Video calling. You can either search in this forum (not sure if there is), or just guess by their names.

I hard reset then prior to the orange customisation/ cabs loading did a soft reset - the 'phone works fine apart from mms and video messaging. I've tried running the MMS cab from Extended ROM, then soft resetting - loading onto device but this doesn't bring MMS back.
Any ideas?

dialpad skin, caller id, mms

Yes I did use search. A lot. Got quite late.
The only dialpad skin that's actually working for the Magician... is the xpad,
or is there another one around?
The thing is that I actually found some after lots of searching, just that
they only replace a part of the dialpad and the upper left section is always
messed up, or just that part is fine (when installing wm 5 dialpad skins).
What about that Caller ID program? I didn't see it mentioned too often around here. Does anybody use it? Is there a better program (or can you grab the one of the Tytn e.g.?)
How can I get rid of it? (I wouldn't want to Hardreset...)
One last thing - what cab file sets up the connection settings for O2 Germany MMS?
The folder's there, I can go online sufing via IE, but sending/receifing of MMS isn't possible (yeah, it's already been activated) - any advice?
Thanks.