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programmatically hard reset a wm5 device

Hi.
Anyone know how to perform a hard reset within a windows mobile 5.0 device?
Tried with SetCleanRebootFlag() and KernelIoControl() but seems like the SetCleanRebootFlag is ignored.
The SetCleanRebootFlag() function was an undocumented feature within 2003 devices, and now it seems like it is gone. There now exist a ExitWindowsEx() function to do soft reset, but I cant seem to find out how to do a hard reset.
Any tips, anyone?
Thanks

Any news on this topic? I really need that functionality too....

if you're in a position to test it, could you try to hard reset with my app
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39637&highlight=
If it works, good. If not, whoops
V

Sorry to say that the Hard reset part of you application does not work on WM 5.0 devices. It probably works on WM 2003 if you use SetCleanRebootFlag();

By the way! All the shortcuts in the cab file points to \program files\.... For norwegian users the path is \programfiler\. So I had to move the .exe file to \program files\ to make them work...

t0flus: I'm aware of this shortcut issue. I'll have to make a custom installer. But unfortunately it was the only way the cab manager would let me carry shortcuts with command line parameters.
Thanks for confirming the SetCleanRebootFlag issue. I'll investigate it on WM5. Please drop me a line if you find a good solution. I read some stuff on the msdn blogs a long time ago on this issue.
V

Hi Vj!
Here are some test results that may (or may not) save you some time:
I tried SetCleanRebootFlag(); with both KernelIoControl and ExitWindowsEx(EWX_REBOOT, 0), on several WM5 devices and they all produced soft reset only.
Short googling session reviled this question on several other forums, some (like google groups) had a post from someone claming to be MS official stating that it cannot be done at this point.
Personally I'm not inclined to believe that...
Side note:
I do know that WM5 has a slight registry bug (feature?), where if you reset with the SR button or with KernelIoControl you may loose the last registry changes because they are not saved when you call RegCloseKey but on some regular interval (???).
ExitWindowsEx saves the registry before rebooting.

levenum: have you tried it on the emulator? I'm fairly positive when I wrote VJEschaton that I tried it there and it worked. I wasn't in a position to test on a read device, but that throws up some odd questions.
I'll go into this a bit further as soon as I can. Quite interesting... forced hard reset is important occassionally!
V

Didn't have time to mess around with the emulator, but I remembered this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=35046
Could the hard reset been a bug?

It must be a way to do this by code. The ClearStorage.exe does it......So I bet it's another undocumented feature...

t0flus said:
It must be a way to do this by code. The ClearStorage.exe does it......So I bet it's another undocumented feature...
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What if you try to think about this in another way? What if you force a hard reset by loading the app to memory, formatting the storage then doing a soft reset? Technically, it should equal to a hard reset...

Did I read somewhere that the programmer for Pocket Hack Master had it doing a hard reset for a bit of time if the wrong registration key was entered?
Does anyone know him. He might have the answer. Although, it may have been pre WM5.

dilligaf said:
Did I read somewhere that the programmer for Pocket Hack Master had it doing a hard reset for a bit of time if the wrong registration key was entered?
Does anyone know him. He might have the answer. Although, it may have been pre WM5.
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it was definatelly pre-WM5, it think it was in late 2004...

Guys, can you test the new VJEschaton v0.12 for WM5 hard reset?
Thanks!
V

Hi Vj!
Tried your program on a couple devices (iPaq 1950, 2490, don't have a phone) but got nothing but soft resets. Nice app though.
t0flus: could you upload the ClearStorage.exe please. I could take a closer look at it if I get some spare time. If we get lucky it may reveal a call to some hidden API.

Ofcourse! Here it is!
The zip file includes a MUI file. Files with that extension is not allowed here, so I had to zip it.

vijay555: Where can I download VJEschaton v0.12? Seems to me that your web site only contains v0.11?

t0flus: if you download the cab on my website, is it still giving v0.11? Poo. I tell you, CE Cab Manager is going to kill me one day (a bad workman...)
I may not have saved v0.12 properly into the cab. I'll try to upload it again, maybe lunchtime GMT today.
V

Thanks for the file t0flus!
Files with MUI extension are localized resources (like all the menus in your local language). They have the same name as the file who's resources they replace + language code (in hex) + .mui
Vj: when I downloaded VJEschaton at about 8 am (GMT) its dialog caption read v0.12,
that’s what I tested. Was there a mix up with the cab or did you just forget to update the version listing on the site?

levenum: ah, it was v0.12 you wanted.
v0.12 should hard reset an HTC Universal. I don't think it'll hardreset any other non-HTC WM5 phone (although I can't even be sure it'll work on a Wizard, I'd be grateful for someone to test it there as well)
I don't think so far there's a generic WM5 hard reset, we have to figure out the KernelIOControl - I'll make some enquiries. But I'd be grateful if someone could download v0.12 and test it on a Uni & Wiz'r.
V
PS I don't always update my website. I'm more active on here then there! v0.12 was finished late at night. I'll update the info now.

Jamin - Delete recent programs from start menu

Hi Guys,
I just got my Jamin a few days ago and have hard reset it more times than I care to remember. There are a few things that irritate me that hopefully you guys can clear up for me.
Firstly, how do I switch off the recent programs section of the start menu?
Also, how do I clear recent searches and Terminal Service information?
Thanks,
DB

Ok... so this might not be the most complex of questions for you guys to answer... but someone MUST know... And the same for the dictionary... where's that located?

Both entries are in the registry. Both require you to perform a reset afterwards. You can not turn off the recently used programs list (stupid M$, I know!) but you can clear it. Attached is a CAB file that should clear the recently used list (make sure it is read only so it doesn't get deleted after you run it). It is meant for WM2003SE but I think it should work for WM5; you may just have to change the Max OS Version using WinCE CAB Manager. For the Terminal Services Client list, you will have to search the registry fo the IP/server name and then delete it manually.
cya

Thanks Mate,
I appreciate the help
What app do I use to regedit? Obviously Start >Run - regedt32 doesn't work! haha
EDIT: Call me blind... but where's the attachment!? Haha

Yea, good point where is the attachment? This is the 2nd time this is happening to me on this forums in one day! The file upload keeps timing out, so I'm just going to tell you the Registry change you have to make and you will have to use WinCE CAB Manager to make your own cab file:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Shell\TaskSwitch]
"0"=""
"1"=""
"10"=""
"11"=""
"2"=""
"3"=""
"4"=""
"5"=""
"6"=""
"7"=""
"8"=""
"9"=""
Use PHM Registry Editor or trial version of Resco Explorer 2005. Both should be on Pocketgear.com or try google. Depending on your Registry editor you may have to exclude the speech marks.
Hope it helps

VJEschaton has a command line to clear the recent menu. However, the OS still requires you to soft reset. Defeats the point IMHO.
V

Hidden engeneering mode view

regedit -goto
hklm/software/htc/engineermode/
and change buitinengineermode dword to 1
save
goto dial pad and enter: *#*#364#*#*
regards
Seth

I found that entry a few days ago. I tried it, but nothing happens.
What do you can see/do in engeneering mode?

Just tried it. It opened a tabbed dialog that shows all the info the phone is getting from the cellular network.
Tower number, GPRS settings and a lot of stuff I know nothing about. Nice diagnostic tool.
P.S.
funnysurf, did you dial the number correctly? For me it opened the second I entered the last *. (on Jamin, ROM 2.13.9.123)

It works... Latest Dopod ROM.

HTC Engineering Mode
I've been hunting for a way to see this info. I design cellular networks and this stuff is my second language. However, I don't see anything in any fields of GSM Test Mode. They start with "N/A" then immediately go blank. I've done the registry setting but no change. When I do the '*#'-thing, I get nada. Got any clues?
FYI- I found a program called NiceTrack that shows only some of this info, so I know it's in there somewhere, but I need to see more.

jott2me, post your ROM version. On the Dopod's 2.15 it works.

GSM Test Mode
The key word is “built in” If you have a little program GSM TestMode.exe in your windows directory, this registry tweak makes this program visible and executable. Plus don’t forget to soft reset your device in order for registry modification to take effect.
By the way, if you use this data a lot, you can make a shortcut to this utility as to any executable. No need to dial the *# a hundred times. Or just add it to your speed dial…

You guys sure respond fast! Wow! And thanks!
JWalker, here's my info:
ROM version: 1.8.10.2 WWE
ROM date: 12/10/05
Radio version: 01.09.10
Protocol version: 4.0.13.20
ExtROM version: 1.8.10.104
(I've only had this about a month so I'm leary of changing ROM versions.)
aleksandr,
I'm running Spb's Today screen (it's nice) and I've got an icon that puts me right into GSMTestMode.exe when the reg tweak is set to 1. I've reset several times still no luck seeing info. I made a contact with the '*#' stuff but when I dial it, I get, "The number you have dialed..." message.
Am I missing something?
Thanks for your help.

GSM menu
How did you reset your device, programmatic soft reset or with your stylus? Soft reset with stylus will erase registry modifications without saving them. Sorry, don't mean to use "dummy" talk, just want to make sure all proper steps are followed to eliminate all possible reasons in order to find the solution. Another reason for this issue could be in rom, but wait for J. Walker to respond. I'm in the office right now and don't have emulators here to experiment with your rom version. In the mean time make sure you’ve made all necessary registry changes in right registry entries, and soft reset using program, something like Nice start or shut down XP or SPB Pocket Plus reset function.

I've been using TRE to edit the registry then resetting it using the stylus and the hole on the right side. Every reg change I've made shows up after a reset as changed. I don't know of another way to soft reset it. Even when I've changed it back to 0 to try using JUST the GSM Test Mode.exe, it won't work. That's proof that the registry does see the changes (I think).
(... and I'm the newbie here so "dummy" talk is A-Okey doke w/ me.)

Guess, it is a good idea to change to 2.x ROM. The only thing I know that it works fine with my original S200 with Dopod's 2.15.13.27 ROM. It much morу stable and fast, so you will got the better feeling

Hi,
on Vodafone ROM 2.15.3.26 GER it does not work. I create an Link to \Windows\GSMTestMode.exe and do it that way

I tried creating the link to GSMTest but that still didn't work. I think I'm going to have to change ROMs. I'm very reluctant because I don't know where or how to get and install one. I've seen that this site is full of talk about ROM upgrades, but I haven't seen one that tells me how to do it.
The thing is that what I'm really really after is not just the GSMTest screen so it may or may not even involve a new ROM. What I really want is to learn where the info is hiding and how to display it and make some of it usable in graphical format (something like "NiceTrack" does but with all the info not just a couple fields). It's more of a programming thing. So if anyone knows where this info is stashed and how to read it, I'd go that direction. I thought that GSMTest would be a quick & easy step toward what I'm after.

any change someone could add the gsm test program. I did found the engineering key in the registry, but no program in the windows directory and entering the code on the phonedial pad didn't work as well.
i'm running tuma 1.3 wm5 rom on a qtec 9090

If you want a good guide to changing roms see this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=52564&highlight=

sethxp said:
regedit -goto
hklm/software/htc/engineermode/
and change buitinengineermode dword to 1
save
goto dial pad and enter: *#*#364#*#*
regards
Seth
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I'm sorry, but I have to ask this question. After a year or so of using these amazing little hacks I've always wondered one thing. . . How in the HELL do you folks figure out these things exist?!

I'm sorry, but I have to ask this question. After a year or so of using these amazing little hacks I've always wondered one thing. . . How in the HELL do you folks figure out these things exist?!
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My thoughts exactly... I discovered this site 2 years ago when I had the Xda2 and I'm still amazed at the information that I can dig up here. Guess some of us have the privelege of playing with our gadgets more than others...

i had to go into the props of the file and change it from hide. i also had to use resco and searched for the file name and changed it there. from there i copied the file and choose poaste shortcut to the windows\start menu\programs

"This device is restricted from downloading this file t

My Qtek 9100 with the latest english generic ROM was working fine for months. This morning, I removed the SIM and put it back in. Since then, it won't activesync, I can't drag n drop files to it through Explorer, and when I try to download a CAB file via IE, I now get this error message:
"This device is restricted from downloading this file type."
Any ideas? I don't understand what happened to it! It's like it moved to a very strict secure mode all by itself. It doesn't make any sense!

It seems that my security policies are all whacked up. The device doesn't even see the installed applications in the "Software uninstaller manager" app anymore. I tried rebooting and soft-resetting, no good.

ok guys, in order to fix my problem, I NEED one of you to send me ALL the keys and data info from this registry folder:
HKLM\Security\Policies\Policies\
Please export that registry for me as a text file and attach it here (or copy/paste it), so I can retype it manually on my Qtek 9100 phone (I can't import anything on my PDA atm as I can't download anything to it, it won't let me).
If none of you do this small favor to me, I am screwed. I would need to hard reset and lose everything (I can't back up anything).

Here Goes...
Ok, I am running the latest "T-mobile custom" ROM, ROM version 2.24.10.1 WWE. I should have no policies enabled... I have typed out all of the keys and values under this in notepad in the format name-value. all values should be DWORD. Hope this helps....
__________
Edit: My phone is a t-mobile MDa, don't think that should matter...

Thank you very much, much appreciated.

I have this issue but I can't view the txt doc can someone paste it here or email it me in the body so I can add them manually or if ur really kind email me the cab file. I have the htc wizard running the most beautiful edition rom. will this work by any chane? I can't download any file this device is restricted from downloading this file type every bloody time... (bloody being f*cking)
keithstewartson at hotmail.com

this device is restricted from downloading this file type
I have this issue but I can't view the txt doc can someone paste it here or email it me in the body so I can add them manually or if ur really kind email me the cab file. I have the htc wizard running the most beautiful edition rom. will this work by any chane? I can't download any file! "this device is restricted from downloading this file type" every bloody time... (bloody being f*cking)
keithstewartson at hotmail.com

hel
any1 ? please asap

Okay hate to bring back an ANCIENT Thread but do I add these security polocies or remove the ones that are currently in there and then add these or how do i do it.

Okay hate to bring back an ANCIENT Thread but do I add these security polocies or remove the ones that are currently in there and then add these or how do i do it.
Edit:
Okay I found that my security policies on my MDA did NOT match totally with the one that was posted here. Little adjustments had to be made in the value of the d-words as well as 3 dwords had to be added.
I also found ADDITIONAL D-Words:
Original .txt security DWords posted:
name-value (all DWORD)
00001000-8
00001001-1
00001005-16
00001006-1
00001007-64
00001008-1
00001009-5
0000100b-3716
0000100c-2112
0000100d-3136
0000100e-64
0000100f-3732
00001011-1
00001017-16
00001018-16
00001019-140
0000101a-1
0000101b-1
0000101d-1
0000101e-1
0000101f-1
00001020-1
00001021-3072
00001023-1
00001024-1
00001025-1
Additional Ones found on MY MDA
00001026-1
00001027-1
00001028-1
00001029-1
0000102A-1
0000102B-0
0000102C-0
0000102d-3200
0000102e-3200
0000102f-3200
00001030-0
00001031-1
00001032-1
I have not checked if changing these have fixed my issue or not so lets find out I will post back with the result. Should I try removing the additional ones found on my MDA?

Merely changing the security Policies as listed in the .txt did not fix the problem

I have this problem too, I can't even edit the registry so I can't even try to put the policies back again. By the looks of things that won't work anyway.
Anyone got a solution that doesn't involve wiping the phone? Not that I know how to do that anyway. I have an XDA Orbit from O2.
Thanks,
Sapan

Same problem here
I have the same problem (XDA Orbit 2)
Worked fine for the first few days - was able to download CABs etc. Then it just stopped. I've read elsewhere about root certificates. Could this be the problem?

this device is restricted from downloading this file type
I have had this problem on my HTC touch with windows mobile 6.
This microsoft bug can make you loose a lot of work, time and data.
Are the Microsoft programmers drinking while they work?
Here is the solution I found!
http://www.24hsoftware.com/How-To/this-device-is-restricted-from-downloading-this-file-type.html
I hope it fixes your problems too.

Restricted Download !!!!! Hum
Hello all. I also have a Qtek 9100 for more than 2 years.
Honestly i never had that problem. And i already flashed undreads of ROMs and software to it.
One thing is that i always have Backup Software for any eventuality. Things can always go wrong.
Tips
First - Try to use Resco Registery Editor,its a good Software to make any changes "Delete/Rename/Copy/Add etc,etc.
Second - Look for Its Right,the TNT Master. It will be dificult to find him as he is getting is Engineer Degree. You can also ask Octaivoi,he is a Wizard Master 2.
Third - Keep an exautive search in XDA Devs and eventualy you all will find the answere.
Fourth - Get a Backup Software,get back all the software that cant be recovered. "Eugenia software can always be recovered". And FLASH a new ROM. There are many,many Beautiful and advanced Wizard ROMs arround XDA Dev.
Hope that any of these tips can help

SOLVED!!! ThankS!!!
mioan said:
I have had this problem on my HTC touch with windows mobile 6.
This microsoft bug can make you loose a lot of work, time and data.
Are the Microsoft programmers drinking while they work?
Here is the solution I found!
http://www.24hsoftware.com/How-To/this-device-is-restricted-from-downloading-this-file-type.html
I hope it fixes your problems too.
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first had this problem with the empty "remove programs" list 6 months ago, glad to see this whacked-out solution that works!!
Conclusion: Microsoft Windows Mobile messed up the security settings, so let Microsoft Word Mobile put it back automatically, voila!

And ofcourse, I've read about this "fix" soo many times at so many places, and it works for everyone but me >.< I tried all the different ways theres to it, nothing worked. One more thing, shutting it off and THEN pressing soft reset doesn't make sense. Anyway I tried, and it didnt fix. Still got the file deletion/changing restriction. Can't sync, can't get online, download files nothing ... If only Microsoft cared to fix this. Anyone any idea? Dutch phone, Hi provider, rom version: 1.93.404.1 NLD

A Real Fix
Has anyone on this board found A REAL FIX to this problem?
Because I just got my tilt 6 months ago was doing good and now cannot download, cannot stream, cannot play cellular videos, radio.
I have tried the office word solution. That did not work for me!
Is there a Real Solution?
THANKS IN ADVANCE!

A Real Fix
Has anyone on this board found A REAL FIX to this problem?
Because I just got my tilt 6 months ago was doing good and now cannot download, cannot stream, cannot play cellular videos, radio.
I have tried the office word solution. That did not work for me!
Is there a Real Solution?
THANKS IN ADVANCE!

I'm sorry it didn't work on your device. I had the same problem, no sync, no file copy/rename on the device, no cab install, no programs in "add/remove programs" on my Mio A702 thing. The MS Word solution worked smoothely and now I have everything as it should be. So I can confirm the "word thing" actually works . Don't know why it won't do the trick in your case

2 very specific questions (Disable the cannot connect bubble solved)

I would like to both find the following 2 fixes and cook them into my rom, but i cannot yet find the fixes - perhaps someone could be so kind as to help.
1. I do not want to see the 'could not connect' message - yes I have disabled both the connected and disconnected option but cannot find a way to remove that message. Really annoying when using TomTom.
2. When I tap the little keyboard at the bottom, to bring up the on screen keyboard, half the tme I accidentally get the input option menu I never use this and only want the standard keyboard - can I disable the option menu?
I have more questions, but am working through them as I think they are solvable by me with more time research.
Many thanks.
EDIT - See post 22 for likley solution to problem 1

crazyC said:
1. I do not want to see the 'could not connect' message - yes I have disabled both the connected and disconnected option but cannot find a way to remove that message. Really annoying when using TomTom.
2. When I tap the little keyboard at the bottom, to bring up the on screen keyboard, half the tme I accidentally get the input option menu I never use this and only want the standard keyboard - can I disable the option menu?
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1. I don't know.
2. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\ezsip]
"EnableSipMenu"=dword:00000000
Softreset...that's it.

Thanks, but I have tried that and it did not work. (I have gone back and checked that the reg edit was still there after the soft reset, and it was.)

TomTom breaking Manila
I still cannot answer my two initial questions, but have come across a strange issue.
I have tried to cook TomTom into my ROM to save time on the install. I have done this is the past with old style kitchens on previous phones no problem.
I have used the cab to ext converter in OsKitchen and made a package. If I inlcude the package in my ROM however, Manila will not start. Itr just syas tap here to start HTC Sense, and then flickers a bit but for love nor money I cannot make it start.
By a process of elimination I am sure it is the TomTom package causing this.
Running the cab via cab does not cause this issue.
Would anyone know what the problem might be?
Cheers

Don't use the cab converter to make the EXT. My guess is that the cab has a setup.dll, and the converter is missing something important. Here is how you want to make the package:
Install the cab; get all of the files created and put them in your package. Obviously, there will be files in \program files, but there may be some dumped into \windows, \my documents, the device root or \application data or \startup. There may be a new directory in \windows. Find those files and put them in the package as well; organize them however you want. Personally, I'd relocated the .exe and dll's and anything else I could into \windows, but I've never used tom-tom and don't know how it's organized or how it works.
Next, get all of the registry keys (after you register the program). I'm guessing that it's HKCU\software\tomtom or hklm\software\tomtom or something similar. There may also be other keys installed elsewhere (like clsid keys). Find those. If there's a setup.dll, you can open it with a text editor and probably see where they are. Some may appear in the _setup.xml. The best way to do this is to track changes with sk tracker, or do it the hard way and compare the registry before and after install with windiff (comparing full registry exports).
Once you have all the files and the reg keys, build the package. Clearly, the package builder is failing you, so I'd punt on it. Don't cook in the setup.dll, though (or anyting with a similar name, like tom-tomsetup.dll; sometimes there's more than one). Also, sometimes more complicated cabs will have zip files that install further during installation-open these up, look at them to make sure you have all the contents, then remove from the package.

Just a little add to Farmer Ted's excelent instruction.
I use wince cab manager to extract a cab, this will give you the registry plus the file locations.
This will give you something to compaire and helps you easier search what you are looking for.
The file locations you can create yourself in initflashfiles.dat or app.dat
To export a registry on device I use registry workshop.
With registry workshop you can export registry from your device straight to your pc.
If you are planning to realocate all the files to windows you need to edit the shortcuts to so they direct to windows and not program files for example.
The shortcuts you can open with a tekst editor.

Thanks guys - much appreciated.
The problem is that TomTom runs fine, its just that it screws up Manila. I will try and pull the cab to pieces as advised to make sure it is converting properly and also to see if I can spot anything that might impact Manila in the registry etc.
I dont suppose you have any thoughts on teh original two questions?

Not realy, but if the cab runs fine but your package isnt then there must be something wrong in the package isn't?
crazyC said:
I dont suppose you have any thoughts on teh original two questions?
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There is actually not much in the cab.
Using Wince cab Manager I can see no setup.dll
There are also no reg entries - nor can I find anything in the reg on the device that does anything other than list the install directory.
Looking at th files it installs, there are a couple of bluetooth files that can cause an error - odly it seems to not affect me when it is a cab but it must overwrite the windows ones when it is cooked in. The only thing I can think of is that it also has a phone.dll that presumably overwrites the one in the sys.
I will try cooking without this in my next build and see.
Unfortunately I am out of time as have recooked/flashed almost ten times trying to tie down this issue and then getting back to a stable base.
I have also 'broken' Arkswitch which was working on earlier builds. Don't think its related though.

crazyC said:
Thanks guys - much appreciated.
The problem is that TomTom runs fine, its just that it screws up Manila. I will try and pull the cab to pieces as advised to make sure it is converting properly and also to see if I can spot anything that might impact Manila in the registry etc.
I dont suppose you have any thoughts on teh original two questions?
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It's weird that it screws up manila; I don't use manila (or T-T, obviously), so can't help you there. I'm just guessing that you're missing a registry key that you need to get the package to work. Is there a tom-tom demo (not warez)? If you post a link, I'll take a look at the cab to see if I can make an ext from it, or figure out what's going on. Some cabs are just a *****, and you're better of doing a cab install. You should see the Redfly cab, it's sick, lol. It's one that has a zip file that does a secondary install. I hate it. I also hate Redfly, but that's another story.
I read somewhere that with some sip buttons, if you press the left half, it launches the keyboard, and if you press the right half, it launches the menu. I've never experienced it myself, and don't know which builds it affects or why it happens. Is this what's going on? I'm just guessing, since you say it eff's up half the time. I have no idea how to disable the connection message, but I wouldn't mind knowing how, either. It's annoying as crap.

What's your device memory left over?
I'm just thinking, maybe you could exclude TomTom from the taskmanager exclusive list.
Sorry one more idea, you are cooking for Rhodium right?
HD2 and Rhodium have a simulair bluetooth stack.
I remember on first HD2 roms there were some problems with TomTom and bluetooth on HD2.
Just a taught.
crazyC said:
There is actually not much in the cab.
Using Wince cab Manager I can see no setup.dll
There are also no reg entries - nor can I find anything in the reg on the device that does anything other than list the install directory.
Looking at th files it installs, there are a couple of bluetooth files that can cause an error - odly it seems to not affect me when it is a cab but it must overwrite the windows ones when it is cooked in. The only thing I can think of is that it also has a phone.dll that presumably overwrites the one in the sys.
I will try cooking without this in my next build and see.
Unfortunately I am out of time as have recooked/flashed almost ten times trying to tie down this issue and then getting back to a stable base.
I have also 'broken' Arkswitch which was working on earlier builds. Don't think its related though.
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Thanks both for your continued help.
Yes I am cooking for the Rhodium and am using the Rhodium Manila plus Cookie 1.6.1 so as to keep memory use in check. Ok I have added in the 1.8 HTC messaging but it doesn't cause a problem. Memory is about 40% free on first boot - am also using 23568 as the SYS base. I also use Ameba.
I think my Arkswitch issue is due to something else cooked in, but being honest I dont really use Arkswitch much and so am going to drop it next time I cook I think.
Farmer Ted - There is no issue with TomTom as regards Warez as far as I know - the program is fine - it is the maps that must be purchased and talking about getting round that is where the problems arise. The program itself is OK.
I might get one last chance to cook and flash tonight to check out my theory about the Phone.dll. If not I will post back and throw myself on your mercy, although as you say, it might be better to just live with the fact it will be a cab install. due to the way the files interact and the fact that the tomtom package works, I do think something is being overwritten in the cooking process and all I can see is that file.
The reason I have persisted with TomTom is that I have made an old style OEM package in the past from the cab with no problems (long lost kitchen).
With regards to the Bluetooth issues - I have sorted those now AFAIK.

RESULT! re TomTom - will post back after putting my little girl to bed.

OK - to summarise.
I ran TomTom through the cab importer within OsKitchen and it produced a package.
Although the cab had installed and run with no errors, cooking it in created 2 errors.
Firstly, there was a bluetooth message about bttray or something not being a valid application.
This is caused by two BT files in windows being overwritten by the TomTom ones. Simply renaming the two fiels to include the word OLD in the name sorted that. I will just remove them next time as I do not think they are necessary if the windows files are there.
The second issue was that Manila would not start. I believe this is due to a similar issue to the above, in that phone.dll was being overwritten. I renamed the file to PhoneOLD.dll and cooked in the package and now Manila starts.....
Still looking for answers to my first two questions though
(and yes its cos I keep hittingt he side of the button with my fat fingers that the keyboard selector comes up)

I'm not sure what's up with the keyboard, although I use Resco, so maybe you don't get then menu popup when you hit the wrong half. Have you tried killing SIPGT_app.exe? Maybe it won't pop up with that killed. If that's the case, then remove the bootlauncher key in your ezinput package. Killing it may not help, though.

I could not find that exe file to kill. The keyboard behavious is I believe as it is intended to work - just not how I want it. But are you saying Resco Keyboard fixes this?
However my final reflash last night seems to have gone a bit nuts. I am now getting all sorts of problems with apps not being able to run because they are unsigned etc or bits missing.
We are talking about stuff cooked in that has previously worked flawlessly.
Had some issues with my PC last night as well. I think I need to go back a step when I get home tonight and maybe rebuild the kitchen.

Time and kitchens have moved on a little, but as things are going well, I am back to my original 2 questions that continue to perplex me:
1. Is there a way of stopping the 'cannot connect' bubble from coming up, or even to make it automatically close after say a few seconds.
2. Is there a way of stopping the keyboard selector menu from popping up when the side of the keyboard icon is hit. I just want the qwerty option and do not want the menu to come up ever.
I have been able to make no headway at all with (1), - found mention of one cab somewhere but the link had expired - and have tried various things for (2) but with no success yet.
Anyone?
Cheers
PS- to follow up my previous posts yes the fixes I mentioned for Tom Tom work fine - it was the 3 files causing the issues.

In my old Kaiser roms i used the below reg key to disable connect notification,sorry i really dont remember if it disable also"cannot connect".
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications\{8ddf46e7-56ed-4750-9e58-afc6ce486d03}]
"Options"=dword:00000000
Disable Sip Menù is the same reg key that another guy posted here:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\ezsip]
"EnableSipMenu"=dword:00000000
I tried it on my HD2 before posting here and setting it to 0 it leave the menù where you can select keypad,compact qwerty,full qwerty and language,it is still present a little menù with the option and my guess is that this isnt removable.
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Time and kitchens have moved on a little, but as things are going well, I am back to my original 2 questions that continue to perplex me:
1. Is there a way of stopping the 'cannot connect' bubble from coming up, or even to make it automatically close after say a few seconds.
2. Is there a way of stopping the keyboard selector menu from popping up when the side of the keyboard icon is hit. I just want the qwerty option and do not want the menu to come up ever.
I have been able to make no headway at all with (1), - found mention of one cab somewhere but the link had expired - and have tried various things for (2) but with no success yet.
Anyone?
Cheers
PS- to follow up my previous posts yes the fixes I mentioned for Tom Tom work fine - it was the 3 files causing the issues.
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Cheers for that - I am concluding that the SIP issue I wil live with, and I already have that reg key set to zero for the connections issue, to no avail. I am experimenting with some other keys, but its really shooting in that dark, and as I cannot readily reporduce the notification, it will be a few days before I can even see any change.
Oh well. I will update if I get anywhere.

Ooooohhh, following some more digging, I MAY have an answer re the cannot connect bubble. I saw someone elses solution and that has actually led me to what could be far simpler.
I will try and cab it up later tonight for other to try. It is just a reg entry
EDIT - maybe I spoke too soon.
I am testing this by alternating between 3G and 2G on the comm manager - normally this will pull up the message. (Could someone confirm this as a valid test method).
I thought I had it solved, then the message appeared, but have done it another ten times with no hint of the message.
Some more testing to do......