What type of processor is it exactly? Doeas anyone know if Xscale based applications are compatible with the hermes or standard ARM? Any help would be appreciated.
I'm pretty sure it will be compatible with ARM not sure about xscale though
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rob61280 said:
I'm pretty sure it will be compatible with ARM not sure about xscale though
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Thanks Rob. :wink:
It's an old (obselete) ARMv4 platform .... Intel have been using v5 since 2003 .... bit of a disappointment, particularly as it means iplay won't operate as it utilises ARMv5 specifics.
Paul.
Hermes is an ARM4 CPU.
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It's an old (obselete) ARMv4 platform .... Intel have been using v5 since 2003 .... bit of a disappointment, particularly as it means iplay won't operate as it utilises ARMv5 specifics.
Paul.
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Damn. I mean thanks all the same. Just when it seems HTC decide to give us something better, they give us something a little better but also not cutting edge.
Anyway thanks for the info pgamble but the Hermes performs just dandy considering the point just made. :wink:
This is really a moot point, as even Intel got out of the mobile device processor game (sold the XScale division earlier this summer).
Think of it this way: the Samsung is a Samsung... Chances are if you're using old software that is processor dependent, you probably should be looking for a new alternative...
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It is written SC32442A-400Mhz and from that i've only understood the clock speed. Is it an ARM4 processor? Are all CPU on these devices ARM4 in general?
Thanks, i'm getting confused.
SC322442 is the part number Samsung assigns these chips.
Here is its product page.
I know its ARM they all are, but I am not quite sure what version (obviously at least 4).
levenum said:
SC322442 is the part number Samsung assigns these chips.
Here is its product page.
I know its ARM they all are, but I am not quite sure what version (obviously at least 4).
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It's an ARM9.
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=151160&partner=adwords&gclid=CK-wwLHhyo0CFRWOEgod-UHMMA
will i be able to resist
Vista running on 64mb of RAM? Surely some mistake.... That would be painful to use.
Its a dual boot device... for WM6 it uses 64mb of ram.... but for vista its 1 GB.... only thing i cant figure out is how to run WM6 if the Intel A110 (dothan) is not a Arm processor.... Emulate WM6???
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Its a dual boot device... for WM6 it uses 64mb of ram.... but for vista its 1 GB.... only thing i cant figure out is how to run WM6 if the Intel A110 (dothan) is not a Arm processor.... Emulate WM6???
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I've heard that mentioned before, but there is no mention of it in the description on the Expansys website.
Key Features
- 7-inch widescreen display
- 30-gigabyte hard drive
- QWERTY keyboard
- Microsoft Vista Business OS
- Windows Media Player 11
- Tri-Band UMTS/HSDPA
- WiFi and Bluetooth 2.0
etc...
Let's watch this space...
If this thing doesn't come with Athena specs on the PPC side of things it'll be a waste of time for die hard PPC users!
It should have at least 128 if not 256MB RAM, and as for the CPU..we'll just have to wait and see...HTC haven't released anything of late or ever that wasn't fit for purpose.
THERE:
Shipping Weight: 0.50kg
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it can be true?
as long asThis UMPC-like device will run Windows Vista Business and come with Microsoft Office.
It will have 64 MB of RAM plus 1 GB DDR2 microDIMM, 128 MB of ROM, and a 30 GB hard drive.
specs found dont know if totally factual
If the vista bit can access the internet and is reasonably quick cpu wise its gonna be hard to ignore
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If this thing doesn't come with Athena specs on the PPC side of things it'll be a waste of time for die hard PPC users!
It should have at least 128 if not 256MB RAM, and as for the CPU..we'll just have to wait and see...HTC haven't released anything of late or ever that wasn't fit for purpose.
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I'm hoping the final specs are impressive. I have my credit card ready for this one. Since I have two pockets I figured Athena in one and Shift in the other. LOL
I can't wait for the final specs. I really hope it comes with built in GPS, etc.
I knew about the Shift before i got my Athena.
Its funny but I thought at the time I bet i end up getting that phone/mini laptop thingy.
If this can do what the Athena can and is more powerful to boot, i cant see my self NOT getting it!
If it can play Proevo 6 Online over HSPDA that would be perfection !!!
http://www.wirelessinfo.com/content/CTIA-2007-Video--The-HTC-Shift.htm
head of america HTC talking about the shift
well i saw the specs on a video on youtube when the were showing a demo of it.... seems that it is using a intel processor as shift was announced on IDF.... using A110 ( dothan @ 800Mhz ) and intel 945GMC....
i doubt the specs for the pda side will match Athena as it only uses 64mb of ram and i think it should be an emulated WM6 as A110 is built on the X86 architechture..... Ha vista for a phone...... i wouldnt want
that.... For all you knoe it hangs the very moment someone calls..... =D....
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well i saw the specs on a video on youtube when the were showing a demo of it.... seems that it is using a intel processor as shift was announced on IDF.... using A110 ( dothan @ 800Mhz ) and intel 945GMC....
i doubt the specs for the pda side will match Athena as it only uses 64mb of ram and i think it should be an emulated WM6 as A110 is built on the X86 architechture..... Ha vista for a phone...... i wouldnt want
that.... For all you knoe it hangs the very moment someone calls..... =D....
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its not a phone its designed to be ultraportable laptop...
as you can see its 7" i dont think anyone will remotely think of using that as a phone
well it does come with the feature... doesnt it??? anyway 800mhz for vista.... wouldnt that make performance very slow...?
probably... but if u run it slim im sure it would be fine ...
besides im pretty sure u can use a dif os on it like linux
i thought it was supposed to be a 1.2 processor
as for not using as a phone the Athena is pretty much unusable as one as well unless u use bluetooth headset which u would have to do with the shift
Shift and Shangri-la are NOT one and the same phone.
Shift only runs vista. Shangri-la runs both Vista and WM6. They also look different visually.
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Shift and Shangri-la are NOT one and the same phone.
Shift only runs vista. Shangri-la runs both Vista and WM6. They also look different visually.
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according to most of the websites i have seen they are!
maybe theres two different specced machines?
It's under £800 here -> http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct....Category=DDCFA00F-7469-4EA2-BECB-AAECD7EAD4F9
But no release date?
OFFICIAL SPECIFICATION, PRICE AND AVAILABILITY TO BE CONFIRMED
quoted from the site so who knows what it will really cost?
What is the actual RAM in the device?
The X1 has 384 MB RAM but you'll note that the device information screen says 256MB. This is because the X1 also has an additional 128MB RAM that's only accessible to the CPU/3D chip. There isn't really anyway way to know this apart from taking SE's work although HTC also confirm this but we're looking for a way for end users to verify for themselves
source:
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2008/10/13/sony-ericsson-xperia-x1-answers
already discussed, this thread is duplicated
and if you read the full answer, you will find:
"There isn't really anyway way to know this apart from taking SE's work although HTC also confirm this but we're looking for a way for end users to verify for themselves."
So, performance seems confirm the presence of 128mb of vram, but for now we cannot be sure of that
guap said:
already discussed, this thread is duplicated
and if you read the full answer, you will find:
"There isn't really anyway way to know this apart from taking SE's work although HTC also confirm this but we're looking for a way for end users to verify for themselves."
So, performance seems confirm the presence of 128mb of vram, but for now we cannot be sure of that
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well, just posted this to notify you all, one of my relatives (wifes cousin) is a developer at SE in sweden, and he say's it got it, but hey he could be wrong...
and the other thread was about it NOT having that much ram...
So, performance seems confirm the presence of 128mb of vram
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uh, how so?
seeing is believing
got to be sceptical,
if it's not stated anywhere than it's not there.....
if one believe it that it has 384 RAM,
might as well assume that the x1 also had swiss knife build in, 2Ghz dual core processor, nuclear powered, what ever one can imagine.....
well, now i see how experia is the ultimate machine,
as it is really up to your imagination.
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got to be sceptical,
if it's not stated anywhere than it's not there.....
if one believe it that it has 384 RAM,
might as well assume that the x1 also had swiss knife build in, 2Ghz dual core processor, nuclear powered, what ever one can imagine.....
well, now i see how experia is the ultimate machine,
as it is really up to your imagination.
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Very funny
xcesspda said:
the x1 also had swiss knife build in, 2Ghz dual core processor, nuclear powered, what ever one can imagine.....
well, now i see how experia is the ultimate machine,
as it is really up to your imagination.
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Are you willing to repeat that in front of [insert famous/important/very important persons name]?
Anyway, fu** this, my notebook has 128mb vram and I play fu****g Tom Clancy first person shooters! WTF is wrong with those fu****s putting 128mb vram in a fu****g cellphone! Geeeez I'm so fu****g male but I think I seriously gonna get my period very soon over that device and what gets speculated about it...!
(is writing fu** ok btw?)
Hi!
I've been trying to find any documentation on Snapdragon's DSP and hardware based video and audio decoders. So far, nothing. I'm just thinking if it would be possible to cook the support into custom ROM as it is quite ridiculous that decoding something like MP3 or AAC takes any CPU time at all, as according to Qualcomm's web site Snapdragon has hardware support for decoding MP3, AAC and H.264. I take it Qualcomm only provides the documentation to partners, as it is impossible to find?
Hopefully full support for hardware acceleration comes with WM7, if it can not implemented on 6.5. Should be doable with custom driver (in kernel mode) anyway by cooking, provided the documentation is leaked or something.
Mikko.
It's not possible to have the SnapDragon documentation because Qualcomm will never release it.
It's possible instead to have the missing SnapDragon drivers for Linux or I hope for Windows CE only when a QSD based smartbook that will have these drivers will be out.
With Windows Mobile 7 it's a whole new story, new CE7 kernel and support for all the new ARM instructions. I hope that we'll get that things and soon
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It's not possible to have the SnapDragon documentation because Qualcomm will never release it.
It's possible instead to have the missing SnapDragon drivers for Linux or I hope for Windows CE only when a QSD based smartbook that will have these drivers will be out.
With Windows Mobile 7 it's a whole new story, new CE7 kernel and support for all the new ARM instructions. I hope that we'll get that things and soon
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That's a waste of potential, but we can only wait (or not? )
you Cant really expect qualcomm to release documents on its IP.
but it would be nice if they and htc worked together to release a dev sdk.
if they are serious about developing the platform then its a step they really do need to make.
if samsung can get a sdk out for the omnia ii then it seems sensible to think htc need to play catchup.. the chipset does have potential,and it appears qualcomm are becoming more dev friendly.
look at what southend have achieved with some decent support from QC..
documentation?
Qualcomm should be giving documentation to ISVs its just a matter of it falling in the wrong(or right) hands. In the meantime, Snapdragon uses ARM Cortex-A9 core and you can find more details here:
http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/ARMCortex-A9_MPCore.html
Not sure if that includes DSP.
My acer s200 has support for H.263, H.264 out the box =]
Ca5c4d3 said:
Qualcomm should be giving documentation to ISVs its just a matter of it falling in the wrong(or right) hands. In the meantime, Snapdragon uses ARM Cortex-A9 core and you can find more details here:
http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/ARMCortex-A9_MPCore.html
Not sure if that includes DSP.
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Snapdragon is Cortex A8 based and yes it does have DSP
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Snapdragon is Cortex A8 based and yes it does have DSP
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Do you know are the hardware multimedia decoders really silicon or SIMD/DSP based? From the QC's documentation you get the feeling they are ASIC stuff, but it might be marketing and in reality they are IP cores.
Mikko.
mikolas said:
Do you know are the hardware multimedia decoders really silicon or SIMD/DSP based? From the QC's documentation you get the feeling they are ASIC stuff, but it might be marketing and in reality they are IP cores.
Mikko.
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Nope, don't know that
does the gpu of hd2 is powerful enough to handle directx 9 announced as requirement for wp7
I was wondering the same thing the other day and couldn't find any official spec sheets. I asked over in one of the threads in the WP7s forums and I got the idea that OpenGL ES 2.0 was supported, which was 'basically the same.'
does any one know any useful info
http://brew.qualcomm.com/brew_bnry/pdf/brew_2007/Tech-303_Ligon.pdf
See page 15 for the best tech specs I've seen on the snapdragon / z430 / ATI LT. Still very light on details but claims direct3d sm3 support.
For that specific chipset (MSM7850) they claim DX9 support on page 31.
Their old chip (7500) supports DX7.
Since that was 2007, we can presume they've maintained similar compatibility in their newer (8250) chipset, yes?
Missed that bit, now all we need is a driver </sarcasm> for the humour impaired.
[sarcasm]obviously MS is aiming really high this time..
DX9 compatible portable devices, that use huge amounts of power so they can do what?
render a load of bloody text!
whoopppeee !
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so tje final answer is that hd2 gpu is enough for directx 9 or what?
The only correct answer to anything around here is, that noone knows nothing at all!
We can't run DX9 on WMPS7 so what ever?!
Before everyone freaks out, about fckn WMPS7, why not wait until you really see something?
Actually all the previews by microsoft were pretty ****ty! The phones worked pretty slow, I dont like that "hub" thing, and they are limited to the ground!
Thats what I would call "YaI" -> Yet another Iphone...
I'm loving WM6 and the only OS I'll be switching to, if WM6 dies (what i dont think, cuz there are more programmers who like WM6) will be android, but not another limited bull**** os
VisualD said:
http://brew.qualcomm.com/brew_bnry/pdf/brew_2007/Tech-303_Ligon.pdf
See page 15 for the best tech specs I've seen on the snapdragon / z430 / ATI LT. Still very light on details but claims direct3d sm3 support.
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after reading i think it supports it