I have the T-Mobile USA MDA, and I'm trying to get my email working with my home server, however there seems to be something wrong with the IMAP4 implementation in Windows Mobile. I configured the account, and it connects just fine to my server, and begins downloading all the message headers. While this is going on, I can see the messages being added to the Inbox on the screen. Once all the message headers are downloaded, it downloads the IMAP folders, and disconnects. Here's where the problem happens. All of the messages that just got downloaded are removed from the Inbox, and it appears as if there's no email at all, even though there should be approx 70 messages. Has onyone seen this? I can't figure out what could possibly be wrong. By the way, if I use POP3 to fetch the email stead of IMAP, the problem doesn't happen, and the messages stay in the inbox, but I want to use IMAP, since that's what I use with all my other email client applications, and I want the email to stay on the server.
By the way, my home server is running Linux with Dovecot IMAP server, if that makes any difference. (shouldn't)
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I've got the same problem with my Qtek S200. And guess what... I'm using dovecot too.
I've also begun suspecting that it's an incompatibility with dovecot as well, though I'm sure the problem is with Microsoft's crappy IMAP implementation in WM5 rather than dovecot itself, since no other email application has problems with it.
And I have used the IMAP in WM5 for 5 different ISP mail servers, and 2 seperate Exchange (2000 and 2003) with no problems.
Maybe you should just try a different mail server, or a different mail client on your device?
OK, I did some more playing around with this today, and got things to work. After finding this message via Google:
http://www.dovecot.org/list/dovecot/2006-May/013375.html
I decided to compile Dovecot from the current 1.0 rc2 source code, and sure enough, things are now working. It looks like the Dovecot developers have worked around whatever it was that was causing the Pocket Outlook implementation to delete all the messages after it downloaded them. Anyway, I'm happy now.
I have seen several posts over the years from people looking to sync multiple Exchange mailboxes/calendars to their WM phones. The official word from Microsoft is, of course, you can't do that, and it is for security purposes. To date, I haven't seen a way to accomplish this, other than to have IMAP or POP3 and use the second exchange account in this way.
The paradox for Microsoft is which domain 'owns' the device. If you sync to two different servers, and one issues the remote reset command, the phone will hard reset, losing the data from the other server. Also, if there are policies in place for one domain, and you sync to a second, which set of policies supercedes the other.
I am probably one of the few people ( although it's probably not that rare consider many users here are developers ) who runs their own exchange server at home. I have my phone synced to my home Exchange server which houses all of my email, contacts, calendar apps, ect. The company I work for also uses exchange and opens the ability to sync via ActiveSync, but denies IMAP and POP3 access. I always wanted a way to get just my calendare from work so that when I am in the game room, or outside, or helping a co-worker, I didn't forget about the meetings scheduled at work.
Ok, with that background, here is the true purpose of the post. I have written a small app that uses WebDAV (same thing the Outlook web access uses) to query the Exchange server at work and return the all of the appointments on my calendar in XML format. This app then parses the XML, and sends regular emails with the calendar invites to my home Exchange server, and of course my phone. Once I log in and accept them, they show up on my phone, my home Outlook, and my Outlook at work. The strategy could easily be applied to email, as the WebDAV query i've created need only be tweaked to return the email in additional to the calendar appointments. The device retains no relationship with the exchange server from which the email and calendar settings come, so there is no question of domain ownership
What I would like to know from the community, is there still a need for this app? Right now many of the configurable items are hardcoded to my server settings, mainly because it started as a POC, and it is in a C# Console Application. It could easily be modified to run on the .NET 3.5 CF, with all of the important info as configurable options, and distrubuted.
Would anyone be interested in this?
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I have seen several posts over the years from people looking to sync multiple Exchange mailboxes/calendars to their WM phones. The official word from Microsoft is, of course, you can't do that, and it is for security purposes. To date, I haven't seen a way to accomplish this, other than to have IMAP or POP3 and use the second exchange account in this way.
The paradox for Microsoft is which domain 'owns' the device. If you sync to two different servers, and one issues the remote reset command, the phone will hard reset, losing the data from the other server. Also, if there are policies in place for one domain, and you sync to a second, which set of policies supercedes the other.
I am probably one of the few people ( although it's probably not that rare consider many users here are developers ) who runs their own exchange server at home. I have my phone synced to my home Exchange server which houses all of my email, contacts, calendar apps, ect. The company I work for also uses exchange and opens the ability to sync via ActiveSync, but denies IMAP and POP3 access. I always wanted a way to get just my calendare from work so that when I am in the game room, or outside, or helping a co-worker, I didn't forget about the meetings scheduled at work.
Ok, with that background, here is the true purpose of the post. I have written a small app that uses WebDAV (same thing the Outlook web access uses) to query the Exchange server at work and return the all of the appointments on my calendar in XML format. This app then parses the XML, and sends regular emails with the calendar invites to my home Exchange server, and of course my phone. Once I log in and accept them, they show up on my phone, my home Outlook, and my Outlook at work. The strategy could easily be applied to email, as the WebDAV query i've created need only be tweaked to return the email in additional to the calendar appointments. The device retains no relationship with the exchange server from which the email and calendar settings come, so there is no question of domain ownership
What I would like to know from the community, is there still a need for this app? Right now many of the configurable items are hardcoded to my server settings, mainly because it started as a POC, and it is in a C# Console Application. It could easily be modified to run on the .NET 3.5 CF, with all of the important info as configurable options, and distrubuted.
Would anyone be interested in this?
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Ive been after an app like this for ages - I went for a google synch approach with my work exchange and then pulling my work calendar to google and then to my home exchange account on my mobile - problem with this was i regularily got duplicates! I have since sacrificed having my home and work calendar synch and just have my work email being polled by imap. The key for me is i dont want all my home contacts and calendar appointments synched with my work email - would just like to pull my work calendar every know and again and ensure i dont have duplicates - would this work in this way enabling an adhoc pull on the work calendar without creating duplicates and sending personal appointments to my work calendar?
Fantastic, would love to see this developed. Would pay for this app.
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Ive been after an app like this for ages - I went for a google synch approach with my work exchange and then pulling my work calendar to google and then to my home exchange account on my mobile - problem with this was i regularily got duplicates! I have since sacrificed having my home and work calendar synch and just have my work email being polled by imap. The key for me is i dont want all my home contacts and calendar appointments synched with my work email - would just like to pull my work calendar every know and again and ensure i dont have duplicates - would this work in this way enabling an adhoc pull on the work calendar without creating duplicates and sending personal appointments to my work calendar?
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This app checks for duplicates by using the subject. The only testing I've done is on my own calendar and such, but I have found no issues with duplicates. Introducing this app to a wider audience should point out any issues right away.
Based on the limited amount of feedback I've received, I think I will work it into a windows mobile application for mass consumption. I will keep this thread updated with the progress. Any additional features anyone can think of are appreciated.
that would be fantastic i will definately testing it out. another great feature would be to enable it to synch with google calendars as well while checking duplicates with the exchange calendar - all the onew i have trie have failed on the duplicates side! will monitor this thread and check when an app is available
cheers
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that would be fantastic i will definately testing it out. another great feature would be to enable it to synch with google calendars as well while checking duplicates with the exchange calendar - all the onew i have trie have failed on the duplicates side! will monitor this thread and check when an app is available
cheers
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I would be interested, but more for pushing of emails from my google app, rather than calendar/contacts, to my mobile phone.
I would LOVE getting my calendars and contacts synched between my work exchange and personal exchange
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I would be interested, but more for pushing of emails from my google app, rather than calendar/contacts, to my mobile phone.
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zenkinz you can do this now by getting google mail to autoforward all emails to your exchange account - thats what i do now and it works like a treat
I would not only love an application like this but maybe one that allows the use of Intellisync along with Activesync to allow them both to work cohesively. Since Novell and Microsoft do not play well together I cannot use my hotmail to work with my activesync the same way.
Hey guys, i don't know if this works for everyone but i saw this post ages ago that allows a quick registry edit to allow activesync 4.x to sync over multiple servers.
Currently i sync my exchange server calendar and contacts with google calendar.
The link on google groups is http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.pocketpc.activesync/browse_thread/thread/7e44b0374561f9e3/e25f50cf495e64b8?lnk=st&q=solved+exchange+pocketpc&rnum=3&pli=1
I have a polaris running a wm6.1 build. and this seems to work really well. I hope this helps someone!
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Hey guys, i don't know if this works for everyone but i saw this post ages ago that allows a quick registry edit to allow activesync 4.x to sync over multiple servers.
Currently i sync my exchange server calendar and contacts with google calendar.
The link on google groups is http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.pocketpc.activesync/browse_thread/thread/7e44b0374561f9e3/e25f50cf495e64b8?lnk=st&q=solved+exchange+pocketpc&rnum=3&pli=1
I have a polaris running a wm6.1 build. and this seems to work really well. I hope this helps someone!
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At first blush, the link suggested syncing with one exchange connected pc, and one push-enabled server. While close, I do not believe this is the same functionality my app will provide. Did I miss something?
would love it.
i own a consulting company and have two email addresses. my personal and a "support" mailbox. would be nice to see that support box without using oma or even worse OWA on vga screen. ugh.
this app is definitely. needed.
thanks for the effort.
Excellent !
Works like a charm for several pop3 accounts.
Ciao
Fred
I too have my own Exchange server at home, and several other Exchange accounts at work- each on different domains. This would be a great thing for me, and one I would pay for.
I am currently running Exchange 2007 on my home domain, Exchange 2010 for one account at work, and Exchange 2003 for another. If this works on all 3 "flavours" I would be stoked.
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I have seen several posts over the years from people looking to sync multiple Exchange mailboxes/calendars to their WM phones. The official word from Microsoft is, of course, you can't do that, and it is for security purposes. To date, I haven't seen a way to accomplish this, other than to have IMAP or POP3 and use the second exchange account in this way.
The paradox for Microsoft is which domain 'owns' the device. If you sync to two different servers, and one issues the remote reset command, the phone will hard reset, losing the data from the other server. Also, if there are policies in place for one domain, and you sync to a second, which set of policies supercedes the other.
I am probably one of the few people ( although it's probably not that rare consider many users here are developers ) who runs their own exchange server at home. I have my phone synced to my home Exchange server which houses all of my email, contacts, calendar apps, ect. The company I work for also uses exchange and opens the ability to sync via ActiveSync, but denies IMAP and POP3 access. I always wanted a way to get just my calendare from work so that when I am in the game room, or outside, or helping a co-worker, I didn't forget about the meetings scheduled at work.
Ok, with that background, here is the true purpose of the post. I have written a small app that uses WebDAV (same thing the Outlook web access uses) to query the Exchange server at work and return the all of the appointments on my calendar in XML format. This app then parses the XML, and sends regular emails with the calendar invites to my home Exchange server, and of course my phone. Once I log in and accept them, they show up on my phone, my home Outlook, and my Outlook at work. The strategy could easily be applied to email, as the WebDAV query i've created need only be tweaked to return the email in additional to the calendar appointments. The device retains no relationship with the exchange server from which the email and calendar settings come, so there is no question of domain ownership
What I would like to know from the community, is there still a need for this app? Right now many of the configurable items are hardcoded to my server settings, mainly because it started as a POC, and it is in a C# Console Application. It could easily be modified to run on the .NET 3.5 CF, with all of the important info as configurable options, and distrubuted.
Would anyone be interested in this?
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This could even be made into a PC application, and I would be happy. Let me know if you need any help in testing or coding.
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At first blush, the link suggested syncing with one exchange connected pc, and one push-enabled server. While close, I do not believe this is the same functionality my app will provide. Did I miss something?
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Well just to confirm, i sync with my works exchange server and google sync which as far as i know uses Exchange ActiveSync® protocol. To this extent i am effectively syncing with two exchange servers.
I do not sync my phone with any pc, so this registry mod does do what i think you describe. I suggest you try this regsitry mod and see if it does what you ask.
regardless i hope it helps!
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I too have my own Exchange server at home, and several other Exchange accounts at work- each on different domains. This would be a great thing for me, and one I would pay for.
I am currently running Exchange 2007 on my home domain, Exchange 2010 for one account at work, and Exchange 2003 for another. If this works on all 3 "flavours" I would be stoked.
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I am not sure about Exchange 2010, but I know that my app (in it's current form) relies on WebDAV, which makes it work with Exchange 2000, 2003, and 2007. I don't have an Exchange 2010 test environment at the moment, but will stand one up if demand were to increase. Once it goes RTM I will definately use it and this app will be compatible. Again, as long as they leave WebDAV support in, and don't break the interface, this app will already work with it.
Fergus278 said:
Well just to confirm, i sync with my works exchange server and google sync which as far as i know uses Exchange ActiveSync® protocol. To this extent i am effectively syncing with two exchange servers.
I do not sync my phone with any pc, so this registry mod does do what i think you describe. I suggest you try this regsitry mod and see if it does what you ask.
regardless i hope it helps!
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Thanks, I will definately look into this.
Just as a general update on progress, I began digging into the true dirt of the conversion today and ran into several issues. First being that the System.Net.Mail namespace isn't in the compact framework, and since that is functionality in the .net System.dll, it can't be exported for use with CF. I found however that the same functionality exists in the Microsoft.Mobile.PocketOutlook namespace, so that was easy to overcome. I ran into some issues during testing (my exchange server went down overnight so i couldn't test at all (btw, it going down had nothing to do with this app )). The WebDAV query works, but since I am returning such a large dataset, it takes quite a while over EDGE (TMobile 3G is slated for Louisville in a few weeks!!!). Otherwise, the port is moving right along and hope to have an alpha version posted in the coming days.
BTW, does anyone out there have a good name for this app. In a lapse of creativity, I named it InfoSync, but I think that is too generic. Suggestions?
I was having some setup issues with Gmail pop; I’ve found a workaround so thought I’d share it.
I like to check my email regularly with the HD2 throughout the day, but manage the majority of these through Outlook when I get home. So on my HD2 I set up a pop mail account to check my Gmail at regular intervals (5 mins), get the entire message but leave a copy of the message on the server so I can still access these with Outlook later.
Problem was whenever the HD2 downloaded an email despite the setup being configured to leave the message on the server these mails were marked “as read” by Gmail and archived, presumably because my Gmail account was set to “archive emails that have been accessed through pop”. This was clearly overriding the “leave a copy on the server” setting. So I’d get an email on my device, this was then automatically removed from the Gmail inbox and archived, 5 minutes later the HD2 would check again, see the inbox was empty and therefore delete the email from my device. Outlook never got a look in as when I got home all the emails had been archived so it was seeing no emails at all.
Hence the disappearing email problem.
Firstly I tried changing the Gmail setting to “keep Google mails copy in the inbox when it had been accessed by pop”, this worked to a degree but I found it slightly irritating having to go in and manually erase all the emails in my Gmail inbox once I had downloaded them.
I then tried enabling imap in Gmail and binning pop access altogether, i.e., accessing all my emails through imap both on the HD2 and on Outlook. Again this worked to a degree but I have Outlook set up a particular way and I found that imap didn’t really work for me in that regard.
Eventually I sussed getting it to work the way I want, I set up both pop and imap access in Gmail. I had the HD2 accessing mails through imap, and Outlook accessing through pop (with the setting for ” archiving emails once accessed through pop” enabled in Gmail). So the HD2 would accrue all the emails that I received throughout the day and keep these in the Gmail inbox so when I fired up Outlook at home these were still there to be downloaded. Of course once I had retrieved these emails through Outlook these were automatically archived by Gmail and only then were they removed from the HD2 then next time it checked the server, which was fine as they had been dealt with and were no longer required, perfect!
So that’s been my weekend really, hope it helps anyone that wants a similar setup.
POP is the wrong method for your interest.
POP catches the mails from your server and deletes em from it.
You only need to use IMAP method to leave a copy on the server.
Just that easy.
You could have saved a lot time if you only setup imap in your email settings in the phone.
All other stuff was completely too much. Sorry
Im using that method since i had the Touch HD and still use it with Gmail on the HD2 and my mails stay on the huuuuuuge google servers too.
Undoubtedly imap has its advantages, certainly on the phone its working well for me.
You did raise a point:
"POP catches the mails from your server and deletes em from it"
Should this happen when the you have set-up an account on the device thats configured to "do not delete messages from the server"? Because despite my account being set-up this way my emails were being deleted (or archived, either way, disappeared!) nevertheless. That's specifically why i wanted to detail why I did what I did as I'm sure this issue could catch other people out.
POP is designed to catch mails AND clean up your email account on the server.
This makes sense when you have limited storage space (i have an arcor account too and have only 25mb on there).
From my knowledge the client and server must support the "leave emails on server".
Look in desktop Outlook you have the opportunity to check a box with this option.
In our pda version of outlook we dont have that option.
This is mostly the reason that the emails get deleted when using POP.
IMAP is designed to give you the opportunity to have a look at your emails like on the server.
When you read an email on your pda the mail will be automatically flagged as read on the server too.
It is some kind of sync.
There are these two well known ways just to give you the opportunity and fulfil your needs. Just use the one that serves you well.
In your case this will be IMAP
"From my knowledge the client and server must support the "leave emails on server".
Look in desktop Outlook you have the opportunity to check a box with this option.
In our pda version of outlook we dont have that option"
When i was setting up the account on the HD2 I was ticking this option to leave message on server upon deletion (see screen shot), although it seems i was misunderstanding this function.
Yeah the function you checked was only for the deleted mails.
It just tells the server what to do with the mails that you deleted on your device.
Sounds good, I'd just replace imap access on the HD2 with activesync, even better.
I'm interested in what your "weird configuration in outlook that makes you not able to use imap" is though.
I've looked all over..and can't find a section that mentions push mail from yahoo, aol, etc.
I'm coming from the iPhone so the push mail works on the Yahoo side and I believe on the aol side.
I know that MS exchange has push feature to the phone but what about the other standards? gmail?
I noticed on Cookies HT there is a push mail icon but that did not work (i take it that's for ms direct push?)
Lastly...is there a setting or app that allows ALL mail to send / receive vs just doing one account at a time (annoying)?
Thank you!
the microsoft direct push functionality (supported on ALL windows mobile devices in at least the past 3-4 years) works with ANY microsoft exchange server.
this means it will work for gmail (i am using it myself!) because google has the exchange server on their end. google itself provides a generic windows mobile tutorial on how to set it up and you can find a video guide on youtube specifically on how to set it up on a stock HD2 (technique should work on custom ROMs too). my only additional advice is to back up your contacts (either to microsoft myphone or using pimbackup) before proceeding because the google sync can also upload your contacts to google, and you don't want your contacts to get nuked in case something goes wrong during the initial sync. another potential confusion you might face is that you will see the labels set up on gmail as folders on your device's client. by default, syncing of folders is disabled, but you can go into "manage folders" under one of the menus when viewing your inbox on the device to pick the folders that you want to sync in addition to the inbox. finally, the first sync may take several minutes (even an hour) depending on the duration you have set up to sync (i use a setting for last one month worth of emails) and on your connection speed (try to use wifi for the first sync).
i don't know about yahoo or aol but if they support the microsoft exchange server on their side, then push email should theoretically work in these cases also.
all in all, i rather like the functionality because it is highly configurable. you can even set up "schedules" such that it works in push mode on, say, weekdays from noon to midnight and switch to, say, 4 hour poll mode while you are sleeping.
then again, i haven't experienced push email on any other device such as the black berry or iphone so my view point is rather limited.
Simply put yes. I have yahoo pop3 servive and get my yahoo mail just fine on the HD2
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Simply put yes. I have yahoo pop3 servive and get my yahoo mail just fine on the HD2
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pop3 in "poll mode" is different from push email, which is what the OP was asking about.
however, for most practical purposes, pop3/imap in quick poll mode (like once every 5 minutes) is really not that bad, but it might adversely affect battery life.
i suppose poll mode is fine for most of us but some individuals/businessmen might rely on quick email delivery straight to their phone so its more logical to consider poll vs push as two separate technologies in discussions!
Do the folders selected to be sync with inbox will sync automatically?
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another potential confusion you might face is that you will see the labels set up on gmail as folders on your device's client. by default, syncing of folders is disabled, but you can go into "manage folders" under one of the menus when viewing your inbox on the device to pick the folders that you want to sync in addition to the inbox.
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Hi,
I was searching for this and thank you for letting me know how to do it! I didn't know there is a "manage folders" option until I scroll down (Din knew I can scroll down, lol)
By the way, as mentioned above, do the folders selected sync automatically? Will they appear on the mail tab?
Thank you.
guys i have been searching for a way to get push email with yahoo on my hd2 but till now i got nowhere!i get into activesync but iam suck on where i have to write "domain" and "server" details!any help appreciated!
fuorigioco1981 said:
guys i have been searching for a way to get push email with yahoo on my hd2 but till now i got nowhere!i get into activesync but iam suck on where i have to write "domain" and "server" details!any help appreciated!
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you can create an exchange account using your gmail login,if you have it,otherwise you can create a new gmail account and use it for send/receive your mail in push:in gmail web page you must add your yahoo account for check and than configure the exchange as i explane!
pop3 is NOT push. There is a delay. Depends on when you have it checking.
As far as i know, the default windows mobile does NOT support push email for yahoo. If you want push email, use seven like i did. Worked fine on my hd2.
http://community.seven.com/main.php
It will allow push email from yahoo and many others. It is NOT an email app where you read them in seven, but a tool to push it to your phones normal email program. (what you would be using now)
I have been using it for a long time and had no problem.