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i'm talking about UTMS the replacement of GSM
would be kinda a biatch
to spend alot on getting a pda/Phone with everything you ever wanted in the features department
only to end up standing in the corner looking with envy
at everybody else having live image streaming on their brand new
UTMS terminal
how often does people get a new phone anyway because i suppose we are standing at a crossroad with a new std comming soon
Hi,
Are you talking about '3G' ?
You do realise that the ultra fast bandwidth connection drops down to slower than 56k if you happen to be trying to use it on a train?
I heard its not much better walking along the road either...
+ its very expensive per mb...
I think GPRS will be around for a while yet... lol
..... especially when 4G is just around the corner heh :lol:
i suppose i am talking about 3G not really sure if UTMS is 3G is 2 words for the same thing
here they just intriduced this
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/3244.html
phone
it's Symbian os'd though
I have a feeling 3G is going to flop, bigtime.
- The phones (including this new one) are just toooo bulky - they make the XDA look positively wafer thin. People want 'cool' tiny phones.
- The content is heavily locked down by the provider, and we all know how good telcos are at supplying content to powerful devices (My O2=very little content; Action update = 15 poor quality ringtones, windows media player's content page doesn't even redirect properly on PIE any more, and I've yet to find any content that optimised for GPRS; all I really want to do is listen to BBC Radio4 over the net)
- GPRS may be expensive, but 3G is ridiculous - averages out at about 50p/m for anything useful.
I'm sticking with GPRS and the 'plain old internet' for the time being.
I was sitting in a cafe yesterday in a shopping mall sipping coffee and using my Vario II to check my e-mail (messaging), get the sports results (PIE), look at some recent photos from a friend (mobile Flickr), and chat to my wife (Skype for PPC) - and I thought...wow!
Bill Gates was right when he said that we are disappointed in incremental change over the short term but long term change is amazing. My story would have been science fiction five years ago.
bobbyelliott said:
I was sitting in a cafe yesterday in a shopping mall sipping coffee and using my Vario II to check my e-mail (messaging), get the sports results (PIE), look at some recent photos from a friend (mobile Flickr), and chat to my wife (Skype for PPC) - and I thought...wow!
Bill Gates was right when he said that we are disappointed in incremental change over the short term but long term change is amazing. My story would have been science fiction five years ago.
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I like your comment because it balances all the negative news we get on the forums. Of course folks are wanting help with their problems and this is an ideal place to get it. If you were to read all the posts you would form the impression the Hermes was a piece of junk with virtually nothing that works and in respect for those with some of the older poorer devices, yes there have been problems.
Thanks for the positive comment - like a breeze of fresh air!!
Mike
i would agree, while there are a few quirks with this phone that need to be ironed out, especially the poor battery life, but overall this really is an amazing device overall... give it a few months and we should be able to make this device more than amazing!
bobbyelliott said:
Bill Gates was right when he said that we are disappointed in incremental change over the short term but long term change is amazing. My story would have been science fiction five years ago.
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Well...
Since 2000 I had been using a Psion 5mx. When this thing was connected to my Siemens S35i (via IR), I could dial-up to an internetprovider, and view websites and send/receive emails. The thing is, I don't consider myself to be a very early adopter.
Granted, it was very primitive: lining up the mobile and the 5mx, the connection was only 9600 bps, the display was 16 greyscales (32 greyscales if you were willing to have fewer battery life, ...).
(I know colleagues did similar stuff using their laptop + mobile)
The overall change is actually not as short term as it often appears to most people. But the improvements have been incredible in just a few years time, and most people fail to realize what technical marvel they are carrying.
(but every device, no matter how good it is, will always cause some frustration at one point )
Jörg
lovely little beast
I could further extend this discussion, with a real experience! Take for example last Friday.....
Yes! I am sitting at 8:00 am at the Syntagma square at the center of Athens(Greece), enjoying my cafe under the sunny sky of Athens and also enjoying free 4Mbps WiFi Internet, browsing with my TyTN and PIE a special electronic service that provides me with the press clippings related to my organisation.
Before leaving the cafe, I download news headers to my RSS application to read at the Metro (where there is no steady signal), just to exploit the 10 minutes, on the road to a meeting.
During the meeting, my boss calls for an issue, but my complete office is in my pocket (actually in my TyTN and its 2GB card!). No problem to answer e-mails, browse documents or powerpoints and provide immediate insight on the spot. Everything is always sync'd to my home and office PCs.
After finishing the meeting, and inputting all relevant meeting details and future reminders at a note on my TyTN, my push e-mail sends me an e-mail from my secretary, where she has included all phones/ people that called while I was away. I just copy+paste them to my calendar as tasks and no-one slips....
And the story goes on and on........ The best part (and one that I am the happiest about recently) is that while driving to meetings that are in places I don't know, I just put my TyTN on the car-holder, link it with bluetooth to a BT GPS and drive by the directions that this lady-voice gives me!
I have asked the GPS software to divert me to the closest branch of my bank for some ATM withdrawals, and after that and before entering any new meeting, I just finish a web-banking transaction with my TyTN, paying my electricity bill on the road.
Isn't it a lovely beast?
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Yannis, Greece
I get a bit annoyed when people, looking at my phone, ask, "What is it?" or, "What does it do?"
Mainly because I really don't know where to start. My nice little story about the awesomness of this device is the following:
In my university class on financial institutions (banks) my group of 5 people was supposed to do a presentation on the financials of our bank. Four groups were presenting that day. Lucky us, we were picked to go last. Once the first group started, we realized that all of us forgot to do an introduction about the bank's history. I looked up Wikipedia on PIE, and wrote down a summary in MS Word on my device. We also realized that one of the Excell sheets I built for calculating fractons had wrong data. Lucky fo me, my TyTN can open and edit those as well. I fixed the problem, then spent a bit of extra time creating line graphs to show trends in various numbers over the years to show in a slideshow presentation, since apparently other people did too. All of this was done just in time, since I attached all these new files to an e-mail and hit send as I was getting up from my seat to go to the front of the class. The e-mail was sent to the teacher's laptop at the front of the class, which was connected to a projector. By the time we waked to the front, the e-mail arrived, we opened it, and were able to do our presentation. So, with the help of PIE/Wikipedia, Word, Excell, and e-mail on the fly (transfering as we are walking across the classroom) our project grade went from what would've been a C, to a perfect A
Hoping
Just bought myself the SPV M3100 (Trion etc..). am just hoping afetr a few weeks or couple of months of getting to grips with this peice of art i can enjoy the beauty that this phone is capable off.
p.s.. cant seem to put it down at the moment... and as i work for Orange UK i am currently waiting to go on a special tarrif that allows me 130MB internet download a month for £10. cant wait...
But for now... sorting out little tweaks, bits and bobs.... Patients is the key
bobbyelliott:
You know, in 1995 with my Psion Series 3a I was able to access CompuServe forums and e-mails, also Internet browsing (though there are people who believe that Internet was invited by Bill Gates!)... I had a very powerful word processor and shreadsheets there, lots of other productivity tools, also some games. I was able to write programs directly on that device, very good and useful programs... I had a good income selling them...
It didn't have a color display, so no photos. It had no enough storage space for such purposes either... But its 480x160 grayscale display without any backlight was clearly visible even in twighlight.
The amazing thing it that it had 512 kilobytes (yes, Kilobytes!) of RAM dynamically allocated for internal storage and to run programs. I also had a 4 megabytes flash card in it, and an external 3.5" floppy drive. It powered from two alkaline AA batteries, which I was changing every 2-3 months. It supported true pre-emptive multitasking, of course (not that "kind of" that was in Windows 95 those days!).
It didn't support firmware upgraing, and the firmware was in true ROM. It never required it though. It never required a hard reset during several years of use, and didn't require a software reset for an average user (developers are different, of course!).
I'd also like my current device to run at least a week from two alkaline batteries, have no memory leaks and to be bug-free (at least without really annoying bugs), and to see the screen content without a keypress, and being not afraid to drain the battery to 0 very fast... But it's non-science fiction during over five years already, and, probably, forever!
But what did you say, in general, is a real life for many people during past 10 years and even more, for those who know that Bill Gates is/was never first and best, but he always the last, unfortunatelly. He is great in winning the market, but he's nothing more.
I'd better have my current device Symbian/UIQ based, like my previous one (SE P800), but, unfortunatelly, they've lost this game once again.
I am impressed how powerful Pocket PC are and what they are going to be.
Soon you can run Windows XP from it and run your usual programs on it. Okay if this is an improvement in all points is another thing.
I had an Palm IIIe some years ago. That was nice to do some things. But i had to synchronize it with an extra cable to my PC. Before using an xda there where three devices: mobile phone, mp3 Player and pda. (i am a firefighter so there were 1 to 2 devices more in the time from change to analog to digital alarm, makes 4-5 devices to carry with me.)
I started just this year with an xda mini s and had all together in one device and even more (excepting the last two devices ;-) but i heard from people using sms alarm... ^^).
Its getting more and more like my home PC. Its amazing. I like it.
Okay there are bugs. But I can handle them. Maybe most wouldn't exist any more if the providers would release the newest AKU a bit earlier. I read somewhere feature Versions of WM have WindowsUpdate. An direct Update for the OS would be nice.
Before I changed from mini s to trion I read some really bad news about this device. And it sounded more worse than it actually is. The reason for this is maybe, that i am working with computers for years and i can handle many computer problems. If there is a problem an automated reaction follows solving it in some way. And in the last time i see more and more people with another background using such devices. From that point of view there where mobilephones with simple functions working everytime. And now they have a mini pc with problems like big pcs ;-)
For starters i love this phones hardware. Almost all of the hardware specs of this phone are excellent. The 1ghz CPU by qualcom is a very good choice, but not quite a bleeding edge chip. Having a dedicated gpu would have been a better choice for the resolution and processing requirements of the other parts of the phone (gpu's can accelerate alot more than games).
512MB ram is a good choice and certainly enough for most needs. However ram is super duper cheap these days and i'd much rather have 1gb of good system ram than 1gb of extra storage space(which is what the evo gives us). the 4.3 inch screen is certainly sufficient, and in this space i dont think there really are much better panels resolution and aperture wise available.
I have certainly enjoyed playing with the 8MP camera in video and snapshot mode, but it also has its flaws. Being very sensitive to light the framerate (in video mode) can go from whats looks like(because i have no way of actually checking) lower 20's to less than 10 frames per second. Also while the 8MP sensor allows for nifty resolution it does not make for the cleanest image(in both video and snapshot mode). Due to lower quality optics being used and very little logic. I've found that flash also seems not to fire in correct sync with the (non mechanical IE FAKE)shutter of the camera sensor. Causing blurred images even with the flash on, I even attempted to circumvent this problem by manually setting the iso mode in the camera options to no avail. Also i really love the back facing camera and i would love it if i could actually use it for something.
I dont like fring its ugly and buggy, i dont like QIK. I dont know what it is, i just know i wont like it(J/K). It honestly never even occured to me that skype was not available for android yet (dont even mention that verizon peice of garbage). And it looks like we get it either until the end of the year. If even then (for video). I have had some opportunity to try out video on evo. And while some videos look good they are often not the right ratio and leave the screen largely empty. Some videos had obvious framerate & sound sync issues. Even on youtube. Let me go ahead and say i have not even played with HDMI, fm radio, or bluetooth. None of these do i really use, However i do like lots of extras and you cant go wrong with any of those. I tried only a few games out primarily raging thunder 2. I was not impressed by this games performance in the slightest. I would expect a 1ghz phone to be able to outperform atleast a Nintendo DS. I believe this part calls for a facepalm. I believe im supposed to thank HTC and their infinite wisdom for the 30FPS cap on the phone.
As for the 4G. I live in north dallas inbetween several major urban area in small residential housing area. Before signing up for my evo one quick trip to the sprint website and a little bit of address information would have me believe that im lit up like a christmas tree for miles all directions with 4G connectivity. Only after purchasing and bringing the phone home to realize i have no 4g connectivity at all do i back to the sprint website and go back to my coverage map. Yup see there i am all green, oh wait what is that? when i zoom in all the sudden the maps starts looking like swiss cheese. As i zoom all the way down my exact house do i see im not covered at all. Upon further testing i found that many areas that say they have 4G do not infact have 4G at all. After finding a 4G tower less than a mile away from my home. I drive to the tower to test my phones capability. Speedtest avarage download being 4300kbps or 430Kilobytes per second or about 4mbps. And upload averaging almost exactly 1000kbps or 100 Kilobytes per second or 1mbps. Well bellow the stated peak limit of 10mbps for downloads, and 1.8mbps peak of uploads. Mind you im sitting right beside this tower. I get much further from my home wifi. As i start driving, toward my house. I lose coverage in less than half a mile. Upon further consideration of this 4G technology i dont think its ever gonna work(right). I cant imagine them putting up enough towers to blanket a city yet alone suburbs or rural. There just is'nt enough real estate. I want to love this device, however this phone needs alot of love, and up against the onslaught on new phones just over the horizon, it needs it quick. Otherwise this could easily end up a dead end long before it ever reachs maturity. I have only owned my phone for 10 days. I will return it(if major upgrades dont happen soon) and go back to a peice of crap metroPCS phone for another six months while i wait for either this phone to get its act together or jump on one of the new LTE phones from the competition. Also i'd like to ask, what would you guys prefer a new single network connection combining all voice and data functions like the new LTE network verizon/metropcs is designing with possibly less bandwidth or a multiple network IE seperate voice and data connections with possibly more bandiwidth. Please consider all the known implications before replying. Lets keep this critiquing unbiased as possible please. If theres anything major please feel free to let me know.
And all i wanted was video conferencing.
Metathias
How did you locate the 4g tower closest to you?
notmike said:
How did you locate the 4g tower closest to you?
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I drove around till i got 4g signal Then meandered my way around following signal strength til i could see it. Never got full bars for 4g until i had line of sight. It was a big tower too. Still only covered about 1/2 to 3/4 of a mile.
4g upload is capped at 1mb
where is the map you can zoom on? can't seem to find it.
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4g upload is capped at 1mb
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Where does it say that? Mine is 1.3-1.6 normally
I can't believe I read...
that entire message. I must be off to wash my eyes!
Don't post stuff like this without an industry source. As far as I know, this is not true. I often get 1.7 in downtown Chicago.
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4g upload is capped at 1mb
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Read it.
GumboChief said:
Don't post stuff like this without an industry source. As far as I know, this is not true. I often get 1.7 in downtown Chicago.
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It's been mentioned by Sprint, Most Blog Sites, and Many other People. It has been shown on upload tests through SpeedTest, DSLReports, etc that its capped at 1MB or very close to it.
Please provide a screen shot of 1.7Mb/s upload as I have not seen that either and I have fast 4G where I live.
Here is from the developers site about cap.
http://developer.sprint.com/site/global/home/4g/wimax_experience/wimax_experience.jsp
Next time I am on Michigan & Randolph, I will run a test. I dont have it in my current log as I blanked my phone last week for whitslack rom.
mrmomoman said:
It's been mentioned by Sprint, Most Blog Sites, and Many other People. It has been shown on upload tests through SpeedTest, DSLReports, etc that its capped at 1MB or very close to it.
Please provide a screen shot of 1.7Mb/s upload as I have not seen that either and I have fast 4G where I live.
Here is from the developers site about cap.
http://developer.sprint.com/site/global/home/4g/wimax_experience/wimax_experience.jsp
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For those getting > 1mb, that may change in the future. I know 4G is capped at 1mb here.
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For those getting > 1mb, that may change in the future. I know 4G is capped at 1mb here.
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My speedtest was on June 17th, when going to see my eye doctor. I am really curious to check, now.
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RE: Nexus S vs i9000m pointer review
this originally came from a PM
thequinox said:
I've seen you're a pretty active in the forums so I was wondering if I could borrow a minute of your time.
I noticed in your posts that you've said you preferred your SGS over your NS. Could you tell me why? I am thinking of moving over from Rogers to Wind and grabbing myself a NS.
I mean, really they are the same phones, so is it the TouchWiz experience you miss? Or did you use your phone for a lot of multimedia?
I'm a very technical person, so you don't have to dumb down your answer. I hope you can get back to me. Thanks for your time
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WIND is way worth it ($40 all you can eat), at least in the GTA area
not sure how is the reception over around your area, but it should definitely considered.
I was on FIDO until just a couple of weeks ago, heck i still need to cancel my FIDO account, but the plan was simply too sweet to resist so i made the jump
..and no i definitely did not switch carrier because of the phone, it's rather the other way around.
After being "forced" to WIND (peer pressure), no, not really, i'm paying at least $60 less with 2 PHONES with ALL features, than 2 phones on FIDO with LESS options, and DATA only in 1 phone, it'd have been stupid not to take the WIND plan
but that was my best and worst move at the same time.
I totally forgot about the PHONEs that i can use on an AWS network, you need both 1700+2100 to properly get 3G, it wont work if you only have 1 band
So, i was screwed in that regard, I really like my SGS even with all its flaws it still beats the SNS
They are yes essentially the same phone with minor differences, yet the one that is killing me the most is the lack of microSD support, and no MKV, DivX, AVI support on hardware
yes 2.3 is nice, but it's more buggy than 2.2
yes it has flash for the camera, but it's totally useless for outdoor pictures, it might be okay if you are in a party room
yes it has NFC, but... no one in America is using it at all, this new feature it is completely wasted, until some form of Advertising Media Marketing, makes use of them, and make Movie Posters interactive, or until supermarket starts tagging their boxes and cans with NFC tags to scan the prices... which basically means, it's absolutely useless, as there will be no retailers willing to spend that kind of money on useless electronic tags, when the good old bar code is so much more efficient.
i'll trade NFC over microSD any time.
playing movies, animes, foreign films with subtitles and without Hardware decoding on the SNS really sucks, performance and video quality wise
oh by the way no hardware support for 720p on the SNS
same mic recording audio gain bug found on the SGS, in the SNS
GPS works on the SNS, but the same i'll say about the SGS, never had any problem with the GPS on the SGS
battery life on the SNS is better than the SGS, even tough it uses a crappier battery
very little accessories available for the SNS on ebay, etc
LauncherPRO has always been my main launcher, don't like stock android, and totally despise TWlauncher
what i miss the most in the SNS that was also build in in SGS is the front facing chat phone calls, yes the SNS has FFC, but it has no support to use FFC for normal phone calls
it only works via 3rd party apps like Fring, Yahoo, Tango, etc.... which totally kills the point of having a FFC for regular phone calls
that was possible in the SGS
... there are alot more i can go on for, but those are the basic main issues that annoys the most, coming from a SGS experience
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thank you gamer , nice review .. thumbs up
i m cooo with my sgs
The SGS does support UMTS video calls (what you call normal phone call) but Bell charges an extra $5/month for it so nobody has it. Plus, who can you call with that feature? Your other friend with a SGS?
no one said SGS doesn't
it is the SNS that is missing the stock video dialer to use that feature
and you can call anyone with a video chat capable phone, it doesn't need to be SGS
the old "dumb" phones (nokia, samsung, LG) that are video capable works as well
yeah, as long as they pay $5/month
I think this technology was popular in Japan but I have never seen someone using it in Canada
Wind Mobile
Thanks for the reply AllGamer.
I find myself in EXACTLY the same situation as you! Haha. I live in Edmonton and I just HAD to try out this $40 all you can eat plan from wind. I've got an i9000m unlocked and on Rogers and I love it. The GPS is it's main flaw though, it's pretty terrible and sure I get pissed at it when I try and use it, but it's not a big enough deal for me to want a new phone right now. I also hate TouchWizz and use ADW exclusively.
Anyway, I bought this cheap Alcatel with the $40 plan from wind here to try out their network. I figure if I don't like it I can return the phone and just be out the one month plan fee, and if I do like it I can use the phone in the interim until I get an AWS compatible phone. I just had to jump on it now because the $40 Holiday Miracle plan expires tomorrow.
I've only had the phone half the day now, and the reception doesn't seem too bad. I'll have to move around the city and stuff a lot more to get a real sample though. If Wind is able to deliver I should be able to save at least %50 every month once I ditch my Rogers plan.
I ran some speed tests here at work and I didn't really care for the results though. This is the only place I've tested, so it could be this tower or something, I'll have to test more to know for sure. Anyway, I'm getting:
Rogers w/GT-i9000m:
Down - Up
1884 - 1148
2944 - 1237
2567 - 1244
3291 - 1242
*Wind w/OT-981A:
Down - Up
1749 - 159
1280 - 156
1575 - 159
1529 - 159
I can live with 1.5Mpbs down, that's not to bad, but the upload is terrible! I called customer support to ask if they had some sort of upload cap in place, but they said they've never heard anything like that. I'll try some other places around the city and post back the results.
I really want to like Wind, or more, my wallet really likes to want Wind XD
Anyway, I kind of got off topic here, the reason I asked the initial question is because if I do move to wind I'll have to part with my SGS. The SNS seems like the logical way to go, but I've heard bad things about the quality control and as you know, living in Canada, we can't exactly easily exchange it at Best Buy.
I don't think the MicroSD would be a huge deal, but I don't really like not having it either. I agree, the multimedia support would be a pain to give up. If Samsung did one thing right, it's the great codec support on the SGS. As for the rest of TW and the crippled samsungafied Google apps... they can go.
One of the reasons I really liked the SGS was the multimedia support, but I found I didn't really use it. One of the reasons is all my stuff is in 720 MKV and while the SGS can play those files locally, Allshare is incapable of streaming anything in an MKV container. This is a huge drag and as a result I never gave it much use. The 720p camera recording is also nice but again, I have no way of outputting 720p. It would be nice if it had mHDMI out, but now I'm just dreaming XD. BTW, does the SNS support video out through composite like the SGS?
I already have a pretty good feel of what I'm getting into if I get a SNS, but I like hearing real world things from users. You can't tell everything from specs, it really is about the experience. My biggest fear is getting a defective one. Pop into the SNS forums here on XDA and it becomes apparent quite quickly that there are problems with a lot of them.
*Update: I just noticed the the Android SpeedTest.net app is not pulling the Wind phone's location properly. My SGS on Rogers is testing with a server right here in Edmonton. The Alcatel is trying to use a server in... Virginia . That could certainly lead to some extra latency XD. Edmonton isn't available in the server list, so I'll try and find a more reliable way of comparing. Perhaps a different app will let me manually input a server IP to test with.
Do you find Wind's Fair Usage Policy unfair? Isn't unlimited, unlimited, not capped?
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To ensure our customers enjoy optimal data usage on our network, we have a Fair Usage Policy. Our Fair
Usage Policy is that if you exceed 5 gigabytes of data usage within a given billing cycle, we may slow your
speed so that all WIND customers can better share the network and enjoy quality access to the Internet.
If we elect to do so, we will slow your speeds from a maximum speed of 7.2 megabits per second to a
maximum speed of 512 kilobits per second for downloads and 128 kilobits per second for uploads.
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I think when my Telus contract is up (November, 2012) I will have a lot of choices at a lot less money.
Ian
re: wind fair usage policy
yes, it's not really unlimited data, it's 5 GB
they won't really cap you off if you go over, i think they do it on a case by case basis, as in they'll look at the ports you have been using the most, and if any of those falls into File sharing then they will most likely cap you
w98seeng said:
Do you find Wind's Fair Usage Policy unfair? Isn't unlimited, unlimited, not capped?
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@thequinox
re: speedtest.net
in the GTA i constantly get 2.8 Mbps down, and 800 Kbps up in many areas of the city
very decent if you ask me
same results using both SNS and XT720
re: video out on the SNS
yes, it is supported, and using the same cable as the SGS (Nokia something something, forgot model #)
re: manufacture issues...
is very hard to say, i got lucky i guess
if you don't want to run the risk, go to your local phone shops, usually those chinese or indian cell phone stores in the malls sells them at a bit high ($700-$800) but at least you can check out the phone in person, and not have to run the risk of buying it from Best Buy USA
Wind Mobile in Edmonton
Yes, no one's unlimited plan is ever unlimited, but 5GB is pretty decent if you ask me. The cap doesn't seem like it would really hurt though, as I can't get uploads higher than 0.15Mbps anyway.
I found out what was going on with the speed test. Apparently Wind's data access comes from Ontario, and SpeedTest.net determines where you are based on IP location. If you connect with WiFi it will give you a server in your area, then you can just switch to 3G and complete the test with that server. I did this and tested with an Edmonton server... 1.75Mbps down and 0.14 up. About the same. Again, respectable download, abysmal upload.
I still need to run speed tests in more areas, but this part of the city is where I live and work, so it matters the most to me. I can't help but feel there is a cap here. I never get more or less than 0.15Mpbs up.
Another issue I've seen is my data just cutting out. I'll have full bars but just no 3G access. Sometimes a power cycle brings it back, sometimes I just have to wait. Seems to only happen when I'm at home though, so it must be something wrong with the AP i'm near.
A Google search shows I'm not alone in this upload problem. A shame
in the case of WIND mobile i switched more due their unlimited talk plans, and unlimited long distance, and unlimited word wide SMS, also all their HOME ZONES in different Cities that attracted me the most
the unlimited internet was just the cherry on top of the icing
on FIDO/ROGERS i was paying just about the same for the 6 GB data package
so i might be 1 GB down from data, but i gained a lot more on the useful stuff
thequinox said:
but 5GB is pretty decent if you ask me.
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Absolutely, I agree. I have a 500MB plan and I never go over 175Mb/month. My only problem is when a company says one thing and the fine print says another.
I would just like a little honesty in corporate policies.
my average is aprox 3 GB a month
A bit unrelated but cud anyone help
I have the Motorola Xt720 that Wind provides, but now i see they have the newer Samsung Nexus S, and i'm considering swapping phones, but should I?
I have looked at the pros and cons, but the 2 phones are better and worse than each other on different fields and to me seem to balance out oddly. like the xt720 has sd card while the SNS doesn't but has a significantly bigger internal memory, which means more apps and stuff, i find that on my moto that i constantly run low in internal memory due to too many apps. SNS runs 2.3 and the xt720 runs 2.1; however, if i root my xt720 i could update it to 2.2 (which i hear is less glitcher than 2.3), but I'd void my warranty. the camera on the xt720 is much better, not sure about the video though. The SNS i see covers more video format though, and seems to have a longer battery life. I find myself having to constantly charge my Motorola if i use it moderately and it easily over-heats which leads to more battery consumption. but that SD card thing for the SNS is the real con for me, i have a few vidoes, but I am heavy on music. But at the same time i want more apps...
So essentially I have 3 choices:
-Keep my xt720 the way it is and get on with life
-Root my Xt720 and upgrade to 2.2 or
-Get the Samsung Nexus S
I'm really confused D': , and would really appreciate help on the subject, also if there is an x-factor that I'm missing (either good or bad) i want to know about it. What do you guys think? oh, and in case anyone was wondering i have the irresistable plan
My billing/data cycle starts on the 3rd so as of today I am trying to keep track of what this thing does and when the data usage spikes.
On the 3rd according to Verizon I used ~20MB. They actually give you the option to download into a spreadsheet your data usage.
Side note: Here's an Excel formula I found handy for modifying their 0.XXXXXX GB cell into a useful numeric value cell that you can further manipulate.
You want to do =VALUE(LEFT(XX, LEN(XX)-3)) where XX is the cell value. If you're handy at all with an excel spreadsheet you will know what to do with this and how to copy it and maybe did it already yourself.
On the 4th my usage shot up to 86MB and it's interesting because usage is broken into bits. I'm pretty sure now that I was showing off a high definition youtube video while I was onsite with a customer and that alone was 40MB used up off my plan. I later went to pick up a fish tank and while I was there, showd another video for a few more megs used.
Saturday the 5th I have been pretty much around the house all day, but when I went out later that night a friend of mine watched a couple low res youtube videos. 31MB used in just a few minutes.
So far today... I have not been outside of a wifi hotspot except for midnight to 2am this morning when the device activated itself twice to presumably check mail or whatever... it used like 50 kilobytes.. negligable usage.
Please take a look at your data usage and if you don't mind keep track of what you are doing on your Xoom when you're out.
If you watch some youtube videos on your 3G... make a mental note of how many you watch and at what quality.
I think for some it will be very hard to realistically stay under 1GB a month of data usage unless they carefully plan out what content to watch or not watch. Upping this to 3GB is an option for some, but for others its a matter of convincing the budget keeper to spend more more more
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My billing/data cycle starts on the 3rd so as of today I am trying to keep track of what this thing does and when the data usage spikes.
On the 3rd according to Verizon I used ~20MB. They actually give you the option to download into a spreadsheet your data usage.
Side note: Here's an Excel formula I found handy for modifying their 0.XXXXXX GB cell into a useful numeric value cell that you can further manipulate.
You want to do =VALUE(LEFT(XX, LEN(XX)-3)) where XX is the cell value. If you're handy at all with an excel spreadsheet you will know what to do with this and how to copy it and maybe did it already yourself.
On the 4th my usage shot up to 86MB and it's interesting because usage is broken into bits. I'm pretty sure now that I was showing off a high definition youtube video while I was onsite with a customer and that alone was 40MB used up off my plan. I later went to pick up a fish tank and while I was there, showd another video for a few more megs used.
Saturday the 5th I have been pretty much around the house all day, but when I went out later that night a friend of mine watched a couple low res youtube videos. 31MB used in just a few minutes.
So far today... I have not been outside of a wifi hotspot except for midnight to 2am this morning when the device activated itself twice to presumably check mail or whatever... it used like 50 kilobytes.. negligable usage.
Please take a look at your data usage and if you don't mind keep track of what you are doing on your Xoom when you're out.
If you watch some youtube videos on your 3G... make a mental note of how many you watch and at what quality.
I think for some it will be very hard to realistically stay under 1GB a month of data usage unless they carefully plan out what content to watch or not watch. Upping this to 3GB is an option for some, but for others its a matter of convincing the budget keeper to spend more more more
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There is an app for that. Vzw has an app in the market which monitors your data with widget and its for tablets
I understand that there is an app for it. What I am looking for is active discussion between a small handful of guys who are actually paying attention to it. Perhaps the title of my thread and subsequent wall of spam I posted wasn't enough indication of that.
There are 2 or 3 threads where people are like "holy crap, what is my Xoom doing" because their data usage seems to be excessive. I would like to believe that its useful to someone other than myself to read some personal experiences like "I was driving to XX place and when I watched YY videos my Xoom consumed ZZ amounts of data".
Through the course of discussing this I hope that some users might become more education on how to keep themselves out of a pinch because lets face it.. not every individual is dilligent enough to go download the app, look at the widget (which you have to do ON their 3G network by the way.. thereby consuming more data), set up usage alerts... etc. Honestly I didn't think to look for those widgets until I read forum postings.
You're more than welcome to toss up some usage stats
I used up 90% of my 5gb allocation in about 3 days. We used the wifi tether so we could use the Internet while Comcast was moving our service between houses (we moved on the 25th). This device has been a sweet dream.
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dustywilson said:
I used up 90% of my 5gb allocation in about 3 days. We used the wifi tether so we could use the Internet while Comcast was moving our service between houses (we moved on the 25th). This device has been a sweet dream.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA Premium App
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Holy cow! Were you trying to be conservative at all during that time with your regular PC usage tethering through the Xoom's Wifi/3G ?